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Re: 2016.2.1

Clare Page <clare.page@...>
 

Hi !

I can see where you’re coming from, Gene, but using the automatic upgrader doesn’t necessarily mean you’ll never be able to get hold of older versions of NVDA again.

I mostly download the .exe file of each new NVDA version before using that installer to upgrade my NVDA, but, if I choose to use the automatic upgrader instead, I still download the installer from the NVAccess site afterwards, then I will have it for future use if I need it. I’ve been lucky not to have had to downgrade NVDA, but I still like to have the old installers available on my computer in case I ever need them. That’s just the way I do thins, it’s up to others how they choose to update their NVDA.

Bye for now!

From Clare

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: lundi 13 juin 2016 16:15
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2016.2.1

 

I've almost never done an NVDA Upgrade using the automatic upgrader.  The reawson is that it is an example of what I consider excessive automation.  If I'm wrong, I hope to be corrected but as I understand it the update installs over the current version and doesn't keep the current version's installation file.  That makes going back far too inconvenient if someone wants to.  I strongly believe that the updater should ask where you want the current exe file if you want to revert.  You should be able to update and still be able to go back easily.  That ability might make people far more willing to upgrade.

 

There may be different ways the NVDA designers want to have the upgrade work but I strongly believe that until such a system is introduced, that people keep a copy of their current installer so they can revert without worrying about where to find it. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message

From: Clare Page

Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 5:11 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] 2016.2.1

 

Hi!
Here's my answer to your question, Semirhage , and I hope others will agree with me.
Even though some things in NVDA updates may help Windows 10 users, NVDA is still compatible with all Windows versions from XP onwards, so plenty of improvements to NVDA arriving in each update will work on Windows 7 as well. I use Windows 7 here, and updating NVDA has never caused any extra problems for me, so any Windows 7 user can still safely install NVDA updates, given that many of the changes benefit all of us, not just Windows 10 users.
Bye for now!
From Clare

-----Original Message-----
From:
nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Semirhage
Sent: lundi 13 juin 2016 07:29
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2016.2.1

So when NVDA wants to update and the updates are more toward win 10, if one is still using win 7 should one not risk the nvda updates?
I'm friends with the monster that's under my bed.
I get along with the voices inside of my head.








Re: 2016.2.1

Gene
 

I've almost never done an NVDA Upgrade using the automatic upgrader.  The reawson is that it is an example of what I consider excessive automation.  If I'm wrong, I hope to be corrected but as I understand it the update installs over the current version and doesn't keep the current version's installation file.  That makes going back far too inconvenient if someone wants to.  I strongly believe that the updater should ask where you want the current exe file if you want to revert.  You should be able to update and still be able to go back easily.  That ability might make people far more willing to upgrade.
 
There may be different ways the NVDA designers want to have the upgrade work but I strongly believe that until such a system is introduced, that people keep a copy of their current installer so they can revert without worrying about where to find it. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message

From: Clare Page
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 5:11 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2016.2.1

Hi!
Here's my answer to your question, Semirhage , and I hope others will agree with me.
Even though some things in NVDA updates may help Windows 10 users, NVDA is still compatible with all Windows versions from XP onwards, so plenty of improvements to NVDA arriving in each update will work on Windows 7 as well. I use Windows 7 here, and updating NVDA has never caused any extra problems for me, so any Windows 7 user can still safely install NVDA updates, given that many of the changes benefit all of us, not just Windows 10 users.
Bye for now!
From Clare

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Semirhage
Sent: lundi 13 juin 2016 07:29
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2016.2.1

So when NVDA wants to update and the updates are more toward win 10, if one is still using win 7 should one not risk the nvda updates?
I'm friends with the monster that's under my bed.
I get along with the voices inside of my head.









Re: URL for latest Weather Plus add-on please

Rémy Ruiz
 

Hi everybody,

Weather Plus updated today:

version 3.9 13.06.2016.

You can download here:

http://www.nvda.it/system/files/plugin/weather_plus3.9.nvda-addon?download=1

or here:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5251169/Weather%20Plus3.9.nvda-addon


Home page in Italiano for Weather Plus

http://www.nvda.it/weather-plus


Note:

3.8 does not work anymore!

Now API Key is not necesary in this new version!


To set Weather Plus you can read:
Weather Plus First Settings.html
in doc in your own language.
Cheers.
Rémy Ruiz
translator for this addon in french and Spanish.





Le 13/06/2016 à 11:23, Rémy Ruiz a écrit :

Hello Christo and everybody

Now is version 3.9 available,

You can download here:

http://www.nvda.it/system/files/plugin/weather_plus3.9.nvda-addon?download=1

or here:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5251169/Weather%20Plus3.9.nvda-addon


Home page in Italiano for Weather Plus

http://www.nvda.it/weather-plus


Note:

3.8 does not work anymore!

Now API Key is not necesary in this new version!

Version 3.9.4  will be available very soon.


To set Weather Plus you can read:
Weather Plus First Settings.html
in doc in your own language.
Cheers.
Rémy Ruiz
translator for this addon in french and Spanish.
Le 12/06/2016 à 23:06, Gene New Zealand a écrit :
Hi Christo


I have the add on here I can email it to you or later on tonight I can 
add it to the nvda add ons page on my web site which can be found at 
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

It is version 3.8 i think it is. It will go up there in the next 12 to 
24 hours if you go to the website as others might want it as well.



Gene nz



On 12/06/2016 6:41 PM, Christo de Klerk wrote:
Hello all

Could someone please let me have the download link for the latest 
working Weather Plus add-on for NVDA?

Kind regards

Christo







Re: Facebook with NVDA

Semirhage
 


I have trouble sometimes getting the entire message on FB. Like on someone's wall or timeline it's sort of only reading part of it even when I try to arrow through each word. Anyone have ideas on what's happening or not happening? LOL.
Sem
 
I'm friends with the monster that's under my bed.
I get along with the voices inside of my head.

Virus-free. www.avast.com


Re: Facebook with NVDA

Pascal Lambert
 

Good morning to all,

I have been using NVDA and Facebook for a couple of years and without problem.  I find the http://m.facebook.com page of Facebook more accessible and friendly to use.  I have yet to run into a problem where I could not do with NVDA what someone could do with eyesight.

Blessings

Pascal

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of babcockldpvi@...
Sent: Monday, June 13, 2016 6:22 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Facebook with NVDA

 

Hello:


The Facebook page has keyboard shortcuts built in so that screen reader users can access it. All you need to do is press the NVDA key and the spacebar to make sure that NVDA is in the correct mode- I think that you need focus mode. As you press the NVDA key and the spacebar, it will play a sound as it toggles between browse mode and focus mode. The sound effect that you want to listen out for is of a key on a keyboard being pressed.


Once you are in the focus mode, you can access these built in keyboard shortcuts. These shortcuts vary slightly depending on which operating system that you are using (Windows or Mac) and which browser you are using- Chrome, Firefox or Safari.

I tend to use Firefox on my Windows 10 PC and so I need to press the Shift and the Alt keys together but if you are using Chrome, you just use the Alt key.

Each of the main sections on Facebook can be accessed by pressing a number. For instance pressing 1 will take you to your newsfeed and pressing 4 will take you to your inbox.

These numbers need to be pressed with either the shift and alt key or just the alt key depending on your operating system and your browser.

Below I have listed the shortcuts needed to access the main sections within Facebook.

Shift + Alt + 0 takes you to the Help page.


Shift + Alt +1 takes you to your Home page.


Shift + Alt + 2 takes you to your Timeline page.


Shift + Alt + 3 takes you to your Friends page.


Shift + Alt + 4 takes you to your Inbox


Shift + Alt + 5 takes you to your Notifications


Shift + Alt + 6 takes you to your Settings


Shift + Alt + 7 takes you to your Activity Log


Shift + Alt + 8 takes you to the About page


Shift + Alt + 9 takes you to the Terms page.

 

Additionally, your newsfeed or timeline can also be accessed with different shortcut keys. These just require single letters to be pressed and are the same regardless of which operating system and browser you use. I have listed them below.

 

Pressing the forward slash (/) will enable you to search.


Pressing the q key will enable you to search your chat contacts.


Pressing the o key will enable you to open any attachments that are in the story.


Pressing the s key will enable you to share the story.


Pressing the l key will enable you to like a story. Pressing l again allows you to “unlike” it.


Pressing the c key will enable you to comment on a story.


Pressing the enter key on a selected story will expand it.


Pressing the k key takes you forward through each story one by one.


Pressing the j key takes you backwards through each story one by one.


Pressing the p key will enable you to create a new post or story. 

 

I hope these instructions are helpful.

 

These instructions are also contained within some videos that I have created. You can access the videos (each has a full text transcript.)

 

Using Keyboard Shortcuts to Access the Main Sections of Facebook http://babcockldpvi.blogspot.co.uk/2016/06/in-this-video-i-demonstrate-how-to-use.html

 

Using Keyboard Shortcuts to Access Your Newsfeed http://babcockldpvi.blogspot.co.uk/2016/06/nvda-and-facebook-using-keyboard.html

 

 

 


Re: 2016.2.1

Semirhage
 

Thanks, Clare. I feel good about updating now. I appreciate the explanation.
Sem
I'm friends with the monster that's under my bed.
I get along with the voices inside of my head.


Re: 2016.2.1

Clare Page <clare.page@...>
 

Hi!
Here's my answer to your question, Semirhage , and I hope others will agree with me.
Even though some things in NVDA updates may help Windows 10 users, NVDA is still compatible with all Windows versions from XP onwards, so plenty of improvements to NVDA arriving in each update will work on Windows 7 as well. I use Windows 7 here, and updating NVDA has never caused any extra problems for me, so any Windows 7 user can still safely install NVDA updates, given that many of the changes benefit all of us, not just Windows 10 users.
Bye for now!
From Clare

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Semirhage
Sent: lundi 13 juin 2016 07:29
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2016.2.1

So when NVDA wants to update and the updates are more toward win 10, if one is still using win 7 should one not risk the nvda updates?
I'm friends with the monster that's under my bed.
I get along with the voices inside of my head.


Re: changing a facebook password using NVDA

Sukil Etxenike <sukiletxe@...>
 

Hi,

You should go to account options > settings > password. In there, you will be prompted for your current password and a nw one.

Regards,

Sukil

El 11/06/2016 a las 2:20, Dan Beaver escribió:
Hi,


How do you do this I looked at the facebook page but can't find the objects I have read about that are used to get to where I can change my password.


Any help on this would definitely be appreciated.


Thanks


Dan Beaver



Re: URL for latest Weather Plus add-on please

Rémy Ruiz
 

Hello Christo and everybody

Now is version 3.9 available,

You can download here:

http://www.nvda.it/system/files/plugin/weather_plus3.9.nvda-addon?download=1

or here:

https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/5251169/Weather%20Plus3.9.nvda-addon


Home page in Italiano for Weather Plus

http://www.nvda.it/weather-plus


Note:

3.8 does not work anymore!

Now API Key is not necesary in this new version!

Version 3.9.4  will be available very soon.


To set Weather Plus you can read:
Weather Plus First Settings.html
in doc in your own language.
Cheers.
Rémy Ruiz
translator for this addon in french and Spanish.

Le 12/06/2016 à 23:06, Gene New Zealand a écrit :
Hi Christo


I have the add on here I can email it to you or later on tonight I can 
add it to the nvda add ons page on my web site which can be found at 
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

It is version 3.8 i think it is. It will go up there in the next 12 to 
24 hours if you go to the website as others might want it as well.



Gene nz



On 12/06/2016 6:41 PM, Christo de Klerk wrote:
Hello all

Could someone please let me have the download link for the latest 
working Weather Plus add-on for NVDA?

Kind regards

Christo





    


Re: Facebook with NVDA

Babcock LDPVI
 

Hello:


The Facebook page has keyboard shortcuts built in so that screen reader users can access it. All you need to do is press the NVDA key and the spacebar to make sure that NVDA is in the correct mode- I think that you need focus mode. As you press the NVDA key and the spacebar, it will play a sound as it toggles between browse mode and focus mode. The sound effect that you want to listen out for is of a key on a keyboard being pressed.


Once you are in the focus mode, you can access these built in keyboard shortcuts. These shortcuts vary slightly depending on which operating system that you are using (Windows or Mac) and which browser you are using- Chrome, Firefox or Safari.

I tend to use Firefox on my Windows 10 PC and so I need to press the Shift and the Alt keys together but if you are using Chrome, you just use the Alt key.

Each of the main sections on Facebook can be accessed by pressing a number. For instance pressing 1 will take you to your newsfeed and pressing 4 will take you to your inbox.

These numbers need to be pressed with either the shift and alt key or just the alt key depending on your operating system and your browser.

Below I have listed the shortcuts needed to access the main sections within Facebook.

Shift + Alt + 0 takes you to the Help page.


Shift + Alt +1 takes you to your Home page.


Shift + Alt + 2 takes you to your Timeline page.


Shift + Alt + 3 takes you to your Friends page.


Shift + Alt + 4 takes you to your Inbox


Shift + Alt + 5 takes you to your Notifications


Shift + Alt + 6 takes you to your Settings


Shift + Alt + 7 takes you to your Activity Log


Shift + Alt + 8 takes you to the About page


Shift + Alt + 9 takes you to the Terms page.


Additionally, your newsfeed or timeline can also be accessed with different shortcut keys. These just require single letters to be pressed and are the same regardless of which operating system and browser you use. I have listed them below.


Pressing the forward slash (/) will enable you to search.


Pressing the q key will enable you to search your chat contacts.


Pressing the o key will enable you to open any attachments that are in the story.


Pressing the s key will enable you to share the story.


Pressing the l key will enable you to like a story. Pressing l again allows you to “unlike” it.


Pressing the c key will enable you to comment on a story.


Pressing the enter key on a selected story will expand it.


Pressing the k key takes you forward through each story one by one.


Pressing the j key takes you backwards through each story one by one.


Pressing the p key will enable you to create a new post or story. 


I hope these instructions are helpful.


These instructions are also contained within some videos that I have created. You can access the videos (each has a full text transcript.)


Using Keyboard Shortcuts to Access the Main Sections of Facebook http://babcockldpvi.blogspot.co.uk/2016/06/in-this-video-i-demonstrate-how-to-use.html


Using Keyboard Shortcuts to Access Your Newsfeed http://babcockldpvi.blogspot.co.uk/2016/06/nvda-and-facebook-using-keyboard.html





Re: tw blue with nvda:

Clare Page <clare.page@...>
 

Hi!

Yes, TWBlue definitely works with NVDA, I use them both together all the time. If your TWBlue and NVDA don’t work together, I can’t guess why.

Bye for now!

From Clare

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Kenny Peyattt jr.
Sent: lundi 13 juin 2016 00:12
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] tw blue with nvda:

 

Hi Does TWblue still work with nvda?

Kenny Peyatt jr.


Re: URL for latest Weather Plus add-on please

Christo de Klerk
 

Hi Gene

Many thanks. It will be fine if you put it up on your website so that it is generally available.

Kind regards

Christo

On 2016/06/12 11:06 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:
Hi Christo


I have the add on here I can email it to you or later on tonight I can
add it to the nvda add ons page on my web site which can be found at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

It is version 3.8 i think it is. It will go up there in the next 12 to
24 hours if you go to the website as others might want it as well.



Gene nz



On 12/06/2016 6:41 PM, Christo de Klerk wrote:
Hello all

Could someone please let me have the download link for the latest
working Weather Plus add-on for NVDA?

Kind regards

Christo




Re: 2016.2.1

Semirhage
 

So when NVDA wants to update and the updates are more toward win 10, if one is still using win 7 should one not risk the nvda updates?
I'm friends with the monster that's under my bed.
I get along with the voices inside of my head.


Re: Creating a Message Filter in Thunderbird

 

Rich,

         Are you using the IMAP protocol to access your email messages or POP?

         You generally only create message filters within an e-mail client, whether it's Thunderbird or other, when you are using POP.

         If you are using IMAP filters are created on the server side and all the assignment of messages to folders occurs on the server side.
--
Brian

I worry a lot. . . I worry that no matter how cynical you become it's never enough to keep up.

         ~ Trudy, in Jane Wagner's "Search for Signs of Intelligent Life in the Universe"

    



Re: Creating a Message Filter in Thunderbird

Ron Canazzi
 

Hi Rich,


OK, assuming you are doing everything up to this point correctly:

When you get to the item that says: 'choose folder' treat it like a combo box. Use the keystroke alt + down arrow to open it and then use tree view type keystrokes (right arrow to open a collapsed item left arrow to close) to navigate. then use up and down arrows to continue navigation. If you see a folder that says collapsed then use right arrow to open it';s structure and down arrow to a sub folder. Once you have found and highlighted the desired folder, press enter or space bar to be sure it is selected. Then tab to the rest of the dialogue and make selections.

On 6/12/2016 7:07 PM, Rich De Steno wrote:
In attempting to create a message filter in Thunderbird, I press Enter on Message Filters in the Tools menu. I press Enter on New Filter. Everything is fine until I get to the point where I must designate a folder to which I want the particular Emails moved. I hear a list of my Email accounts, but I see no way of designating a folder within that account. For example, I hear in the combo box, ironrock@verizon.net, but I can not get to the Save folder within that account to which I want the Emails moved. How do I access the folders within an account?

--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: tw blue with nvda:

Roger Stewart
 

It works very well here.  In fact, since this machine was upgraded to Win 10, it works far better than Chicken Nugget.

Roger








On 6/12/2016 5:11 PM, Kenny Peyattt jr. wrote:

Hi Does TWblue still work with nvda?

Kenny Peyatt jr.



Creating a Message Filter in Thunderbird

Rich De Steno <ironrock@...>
 

In attempting to create a message filter in Thunderbird, I press Enter on Message Filters in the Tools menu. I press Enter on New Filter. Everything is fine until I get to the point where I must designate a folder to which I want the particular Emails moved. I hear a list of my Email accounts, but I see no way of designating a folder within that account. For example, I hear in the combo box, ironrock@verizon.net, but I can not get to the Save folder within that account to which I want the Emails moved. How do I access the folders within an account?


--
Rich De Steno


--
Rich De Steno


Re: tw blue with nvda:

Mark <mark@...>
 

    Yes i am useing tw blue and nvda
 
Mark
Member of the accessible friends network
www.tafn.org.uk
 

Sent: Sunday, June 12, 2016 11:11 PM
Subject: [nvda] tw blue with nvda:
 

Hi Does TWblue still work with nvda?

Kenny Peyatt jr.


tw blue with nvda:

kenny Peyatt jr. <p.wildcat1234@...>
 

Hi Does TWblue still work with nvda?

Kenny Peyatt jr.


Re: Facebook with NVDA

David Moore
 

Yes,
I use the mobile site all of the time, and it is very easy to do the basics, send message, post, comment on others' posts, and much more. It is so simple, because there is no adds or apps or anything like that on there. It just has what you want, and you can navigate just like on any other web sites. Yes, much better to use the mobile site!
Take care.

-----Original Message-----
From: Buddy Brannan
Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2016 8:26 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Facebook with NVDA

Oh...yeah, you have to have forms mode on, else NVDA will intercept everything. Naturally, I forget what the command is for this. But if that's what you want to do, use the mobile site...it's tons easier.

--
Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Phone: 814-860-3194
Mobile: 814-431-0962
Email: buddy@brannan.name




On Jun 11, 2016, at 8:21 AM, Semirhage <severus13@gmail.com> wrote:

I worked wit the article and not every command worked for some reason. Like nothing happened. And as I initially said I do use the mobile ap. I want to find people and leave them messages and it's annoying as when I'm done with the message and enter it won't even let me send easily.
I'm friends with the monster that's under my bed.
I get along with the voices inside of my head.