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Re: Changing speech rate on the fly not working.

 

Hi,

Okay, when you open keyboard settings (Control+NVDA+K), what is the keyboard layout set to? Control+NVDA+right arrow will switch to the next synth settings ring if desktop layout is in use, otherwise it’ll move the review cursor to the next word (laptop layout).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of marcio via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 10:10 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Changing speech rate on the fly not working.

 

Hi Joseph,
You mentioned that CONTROL+NVDA+right arrow would be a possibility as well as using the left arrow.
What happens here, however, is that when I press the first command, I don't get anything from it.
So you know what could be going on my side?


Cheers,
Marcio
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Em 17/01/2019 03:58, Joseph Lee escreveu:

Hi,
Jackie is right, but I had another reason to ask Janet as to where she got that info: sources matter, too. If Janet searched for commands in Google, surely the first result would have been the NVDA user guide for the latest release, unless she found an answer from a specific source that claimed Control+NVDA+left/right arrow keys are used to change rate on the fly.
For sake of completeness, here's what Control+NVDA+arro keys will do (if using laptop layout, add a Shift key to this mix):
Imagine you have a collection of circular panels with switches around the outer perimeter. You can turn each panel around, as well as move the switches up and down.
Each panel represents a speech synthesizer, and each switch represents a voice characteristic. After choosing a panel, you can turn the panel around until a specific voice characteristic you wish to change is in front of you. Then you would use the switches to change the chosen characteristic. This is called "synthesizer settings ring", better known as "synth settings ring".
By default, when NVDA starts, the "rate" switch will be active. You can use Control+NVDA+left/right arrow keys to move to different "switches" (voice characteristics) such as voice, variant, rate, pitch, volume and so on (different synthesizers expose different settings). Then you would press Control+NVDA+up/down arrow keys to "change the switches" - configure the chosen characteristic to your liking.
While we're at it, one advice to would-be experts (or for those teaching NVDA to others): as much as you can recall NVDA commands while sleeping, it is equally important to recall, apply, and explain concepts, too. In case you're dealing with NVDA code (including add-ons), you should be prepared to not only write interesting code, but willing to explain what your code does (trust me: writing code can be done easily, but explaining your own code require more brainpower and creativity).
Cheers,
Joseph
 
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jackie
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 9:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Changing speech rate on the fly not working.
 
Janet, this is just a suggestion, but I'm wondering if it might not be more helpful--& more accurate--to simply access the NVDA menu, go to help, then go to the "command quick reference guide". There, you can find the keys, both for desktops & laptops, that will perform any command NVDA has. This should contain the most up-to-date & accurate information.
 
I think what Joseph is trying to tell you here is that the command you tried to use is inaccurate--for the desktop, it's NVDA+ctrl+up or down, w/the laptop you add the shift key.
 
HTH.
 
On 1/16/19, Janet Brandly <jbrandly@...> wrote:
Hi Joseph,
Wow, thanks for getting back to me so fast! Actually, I just googled it.
Jan
 
 
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 10:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Changing speech rate on the fly not working.
 
Hi,
 
Huh? Where did you see that Control+NVDA+left and right arrow keys are 
used to change rate on the fly?
 
To others: there is a specific reason why I’m doing it like this (will 
explain soon).
 
Cheers,
 
Joseph
 
 
 
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet 
Brandly
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 8:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Changing speech rate on the fly not working.
 
 
 
Hello all,
 
I am using Windows 10 with the latest NVDA. When I try to change 
speech rate on the fly using the NVDA control and either the left or 
right arrow keys the rate does not change and NVDA says nothing. Has 
this command changed? If so, what is it now?
 
Thanks,
 
Jan
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
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Re: Changing speech rate on the fly not working.

 

Hi Joseph,
You mentioned that CONTROL+NVDA+right arrow would be a possibility as well as using the left arrow.
What happens here, however, is that when I press the first command, I don't get anything from it.
So you know what could be going on my side?

Cheers,
Marcio
Follow me on Twitter

Em 17/01/2019 03:58, Joseph Lee escreveu:

Hi,
Jackie is right, but I had another reason to ask Janet as to where she got that info: sources matter, too. If Janet searched for commands in Google, surely the first result would have been the NVDA user guide for the latest release, unless she found an answer from a specific source that claimed Control+NVDA+left/right arrow keys are used to change rate on the fly.
For sake of completeness, here's what Control+NVDA+arro keys will do (if using laptop layout, add a Shift key to this mix):
Imagine you have a collection of circular panels with switches around the outer perimeter. You can turn each panel around, as well as move the switches up and down.
Each panel represents a speech synthesizer, and each switch represents a voice characteristic. After choosing a panel, you can turn the panel around until a specific voice characteristic you wish to change is in front of you. Then you would use the switches to change the chosen characteristic. This is called "synthesizer settings ring", better known as "synth settings ring".
By default, when NVDA starts, the "rate" switch will be active. You can use Control+NVDA+left/right arrow keys to move to different "switches" (voice characteristics) such as voice, variant, rate, pitch, volume and so on (different synthesizers expose different settings). Then you would press Control+NVDA+up/down arrow keys to "change the switches" - configure the chosen characteristic to your liking.
While we're at it, one advice to would-be experts (or for those teaching NVDA to others): as much as you can recall NVDA commands while sleeping, it is equally important to recall, apply, and explain concepts, too. In case you're dealing with NVDA code (including add-ons), you should be prepared to not only write interesting code, but willing to explain what your code does (trust me: writing code can be done easily, but explaining your own code require more brainpower and creativity).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jackie
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 9:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Changing speech rate on the fly not working.

Janet, this is just a suggestion, but I'm wondering if it might not be more helpful--& more accurate--to simply access the NVDA menu, go to help, then go to the "command quick reference guide". There, you can find the keys, both for desktops & laptops, that will perform any command NVDA has. This should contain the most up-to-date & accurate information.

I think what Joseph is trying to tell you here is that the command you tried to use is inaccurate--for the desktop, it's NVDA+ctrl+up or down, w/the laptop you add the shift key.

HTH.

On 1/16/19, Janet Brandly <jbrandly@...> wrote:
Hi Joseph,
Wow, thanks for getting back to me so fast! Actually, I just googled it.
Jan


From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 10:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Changing speech rate on the fly not working.

Hi,

Huh? Where did you see that Control+NVDA+left and right arrow keys are 
used to change rate on the fly?

To others: there is a specific reason why I’m doing it like this (will 
explain soon).

Cheers,

Joseph



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet 
Brandly
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 8:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Changing speech rate on the fly not working.



Hello all,

I am using Windows 10 with the latest NVDA. When I try to change 
speech rate on the fly using the NVDA control and either the left or 
right arrow keys the rate does not change and NVDA says nothing. Has 
this command changed? If so, what is it now?

Thanks,

Jan







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Re: For all those who wanted the last xp version of nvda

 

Hi,
There is an important reason why I'm asking you to think: as much as the crystal ball seems to be clear, you can't ignore reality. In the past, I would have given an answer right away. This time, I won't because it is equally important to think carefully, too.
Cheers,
Joseph

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 10:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] For all those who wanted the last xp version of nvda

Hi,
Hmmm, testing new versions of NVDA on Windows XP... I don't think so, Please think and explain to us why I said, "I don't think so".
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of zahra
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 9:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] For all those who wanted the last xp version of nvda

hi brian.
thanks so much for the link. i really wished to test new versions of nvda on xp. thanks for your help, God bless you!

On 1/16/19, zahra a <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com> wrote:
hi gene. thanks so much as always for your comments and helps.
is it possible to use newer versions of nvda (portable versions) on xp?
i wish to test new espeak for reading farsi documents to see which
versions of espeak support farsi better?
is it possible that for example: someone put nvda 2018.4 portable for
me on dropbox to test on xp?
thanks again for your help, God bless you!

On 1/16/19, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
I misunderstood your message. I thought you said that you can run a
current portable version of NVDA with XP. You were saying that you
are sending the last version of NVDA that supports XP. So my
statements were wrong about not being able to run the installer to
install it.

However, from a little playing around I did, you said this is a
development version, not the last production but the last development
version, if others get results like mine, it would be a good idea to
try running the last production version or earlier ones if the last
production version has these drawbacks.

First, I'm running the version you sent on a slow XP machine, much
slower than people will generally be using. Its fine for what I use
it for and I use my fast Windows 7 machine where this one is too
slow. But on this machine, using Via Voice, it is very unresponsive
while typing. Earlier versions are much more responsive. I'm not
sure what else you might find as you try it but you may well get a
considerably more responsive version by using the last production
version or even earlier, if necessary.

I haven't tested with other voices but I suspect this is a general
problem.
Via Voice should be very responsive.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 1:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] For all those who wanted the last xp version of
nvda


I see. I read your message but I didn't see the link or I thought it
was something else, maybe a footer. Sorry for the unnecessary request.

My clarification may have some value in case some people think they
can run the actual installer and get current versions that way if
they are running XP. This version has already been created but you
can't create your own.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 1:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] For all those who wanted the last xp version of
nvda


But that is exactly what is in the zip file a zipped up portable version.


I know that it might annoy some doing it this way, but I see a
question about it every week nearly and thought as I have it, I might
as well share it.
You can always strip out all add-ons etc, if you like.
The folder it creates is a stand alone portable version though not
sure if

some synths might have been removed, so be careful but espeak is
selected.
Brian

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From: "Gene" <gsasner@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] For all those who wanted the last xp version of
nvda


To clarify:
Evidently, you are saying that if you have already created a portable
version, you can run it on XP as a portable version. But that isn't
saying

that you can use the installer on an XP machine to create a portable
version. You can't.

Also, Would you mind putting the portable version in Dropbox or
however you

want to share it? I can't run the installer here but I'd like to
play with

the portable version.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 10:46 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] For all those who wanted the last xp version of nvda


I was testing a network link between my windows 7 and the xp
machines upstairs so zipped up my portable install of nvda that ran
on the XP machine, complete with add ons and tweaked symbols etc.
Now its offered with no warranty of any kind and it is a development
snapshot after the final release, so may well have the error sound.
If you want to play however.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/30xp74rs7ttnz5w/nvdaxp%20last%20version.zip
?dl=1

Just unzip it to a folder, it should create its own off of wherever
you extract it from. Run the exe, or if you are really lazy, the
nvda.bat file.
You can then play with it and also install it if you so wish, but
although its clear of nasty viruses or whatever, remember its not
supported by nvaccess. Its old and only around because some of us
still keep xp machines running.
Note toolbar explorer is in it as aware many other older add ons.
Brian


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I would not do it.
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Re: For all those who wanted the last xp version of nvda

 

Hi,
Hmmm, testing new versions of NVDA on Windows XP... I don't think so, Please think and explain to us why I said, "I don't think so".
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of zahra
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 9:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] For all those who wanted the last xp version of nvda

hi brian.
thanks so much for the link. i really wished to test new versions of nvda on xp. thanks for your help, God bless you!

On 1/16/19, zahra a <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com> wrote:
hi gene. thanks so much as always for your comments and helps.
is it possible to use newer versions of nvda (portable versions) on xp?
i wish to test new espeak for reading farsi documents to see which
versions of espeak support farsi better?
is it possible that for example: someone put nvda 2018.4 portable for
me on dropbox to test on xp?
thanks again for your help, God bless you!

On 1/16/19, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
I misunderstood your message. I thought you said that you can run a
current portable version of NVDA with XP. You were saying that you
are sending the last version of NVDA that supports XP. So my
statements were wrong about not being able to run the installer to
install it.

However, from a little playing around I did, you said this is a
development version, not the last production but the last development
version, if others get results like mine, it would be a good idea to
try running the last production version or earlier ones if the last
production version has these drawbacks.

First, I'm running the version you sent on a slow XP machine, much
slower than people will generally be using. Its fine for what I use
it for and I use my fast Windows 7 machine where this one is too
slow. But on this machine, using Via Voice, it is very unresponsive
while typing. Earlier versions are much more responsive. I'm not
sure what else you might find as you try it but you may well get a
considerably more responsive version by using the last production
version or even earlier, if necessary.

I haven't tested with other voices but I suspect this is a general
problem.
Via Voice should be very responsive.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 1:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] For all those who wanted the last xp version of
nvda


I see. I read your message but I didn't see the link or I thought it
was something else, maybe a footer. Sorry for the unnecessary request.

My clarification may have some value in case some people think they
can run the actual installer and get current versions that way if
they are running XP. This version has already been created but you
can't create your own.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 1:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] For all those who wanted the last xp version of
nvda


But that is exactly what is in the zip file a zipped up portable version.


I know that it might annoy some doing it this way, but I see a
question about it every week nearly and thought as I have it, I might
as well share it.
You can always strip out all add-ons etc, if you like.
The folder it creates is a stand alone portable version though not
sure if

some synths might have been removed, so be careful but espeak is
selected.
Brian

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Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] For all those who wanted the last xp version of
nvda


To clarify:
Evidently, you are saying that if you have already created a portable
version, you can run it on XP as a portable version. But that isn't
saying

that you can use the installer on an XP machine to create a portable
version. You can't.

Also, Would you mind putting the portable version in Dropbox or
however you

want to share it? I can't run the installer here but I'd like to
play with

the portable version.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 10:46 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] For all those who wanted the last xp version of nvda


I was testing a network link between my windows 7 and the xp
machines upstairs so zipped up my portable install of nvda that ran
on the XP machine, complete with add ons and tweaked symbols etc.
Now its offered with no warranty of any kind and it is a development
snapshot after the final release, so may well have the error sound.
If you want to play however.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/30xp74rs7ttnz5w/nvdaxp%20last%20version.zip
?dl=1

Just unzip it to a folder, it should create its own off of wherever
you extract it from. Run the exe, or if you are really lazy, the
nvda.bat file.
You can then play with it and also install it if you so wish, but
although its clear of nasty viruses or whatever, remember its not
supported by nvaccess. Its old and only around because some of us
still keep xp machines running.
Note toolbar explorer is in it as aware many other older add ons.
Brian


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were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali

--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: Changing speech rate on the fly not working.

 

Hi,
Jackie is right, but I had another reason to ask Janet as to where she got that info: sources matter, too. If Janet searched for commands in Google, surely the first result would have been the NVDA user guide for the latest release, unless she found an answer from a specific source that claimed Control+NVDA+left/right arrow keys are used to change rate on the fly.
For sake of completeness, here's what Control+NVDA+arro keys will do (if using laptop layout, add a Shift key to this mix):
Imagine you have a collection of circular panels with switches around the outer perimeter. You can turn each panel around, as well as move the switches up and down.
Each panel represents a speech synthesizer, and each switch represents a voice characteristic. After choosing a panel, you can turn the panel around until a specific voice characteristic you wish to change is in front of you. Then you would use the switches to change the chosen characteristic. This is called "synthesizer settings ring", better known as "synth settings ring".
By default, when NVDA starts, the "rate" switch will be active. You can use Control+NVDA+left/right arrow keys to move to different "switches" (voice characteristics) such as voice, variant, rate, pitch, volume and so on (different synthesizers expose different settings). Then you would press Control+NVDA+up/down arrow keys to "change the switches" - configure the chosen characteristic to your liking.
While we're at it, one advice to would-be experts (or for those teaching NVDA to others): as much as you can recall NVDA commands while sleeping, it is equally important to recall, apply, and explain concepts, too. In case you're dealing with NVDA code (including add-ons), you should be prepared to not only write interesting code, but willing to explain what your code does (trust me: writing code can be done easily, but explaining your own code require more brainpower and creativity).
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jackie
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 9:39 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Changing speech rate on the fly not working.

Janet, this is just a suggestion, but I'm wondering if it might not be more helpful--& more accurate--to simply access the NVDA menu, go to help, then go to the "command quick reference guide". There, you can find the keys, both for desktops & laptops, that will perform any command NVDA has. This should contain the most up-to-date & accurate information.

I think what Joseph is trying to tell you here is that the command you tried to use is inaccurate--for the desktop, it's NVDA+ctrl+up or down, w/the laptop you add the shift key.

HTH.

On 1/16/19, Janet Brandly <jbrandly@shaw.ca> wrote:
Hi Joseph,
Wow, thanks for getting back to me so fast! Actually, I just googled it.
Jan


From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 10:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Changing speech rate on the fly not working.

Hi,

Huh? Where did you see that Control+NVDA+left and right arrow keys are
used to change rate on the fly?

To others: there is a specific reason why I’m doing it like this (will
explain soon).

Cheers,

Joseph



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet
Brandly
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 8:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Changing speech rate on the fly not working.



Hello all,

I am using Windows 10 with the latest NVDA. When I try to change
speech rate on the fly using the NVDA control and either the left or
right arrow keys the rate does not change and NVDA says nothing. Has
this command changed? If so, what is it now?

Thanks,

Jan






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Re: For all those who wanted the last xp version of nvda

 

hi quentin.
thanks so much for the link.
i wish that you can put all stable versions of nvda in the archive and
people can easily find and download there desired versions.
thanks for any of your help, i sincerely always pray for all of you
and request divine infinite mercy and blesings for you all.

On 1/16/19, zahra a <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com> wrote:
hi brian.
thanks so much for the link. i really wished to test new versions of
nvda on xp. thanks for your help, God bless you!

On 1/16/19, zahra a <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com> wrote:
hi gene. thanks so much as always for your comments and helps.
is it possible to use newer versions of nvda (portable versions) on xp?
i wish to test new espeak for reading farsi documents to see which
versions of espeak support farsi better?
is it possible that for example: someone put nvda 2018.4 portable for
me on dropbox to test on xp?
thanks again for your help, God bless you!

On 1/16/19, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
I misunderstood your message. I thought you said that you can run a
current
portable version of NVDA with XP. You were saying that you are sending
the
last version of NVDA that supports XP. So my statements were wrong
about
not being able to run the installer to install it.

However, from a little playing around I did, you said this is a
development
version, not the last production but the last development version, if
others
get results like mine, it would be a good idea to try running the last
production version or earlier ones if the last production version has
these
drawbacks.

First, I'm running the version you sent on a slow XP machine, much
slower
than people will generally be using. Its fine for what I use it for and
I
use my fast Windows 7 machine where this one is too slow. But on this
machine, using Via Voice, it is very unresponsive while typing. Earlier
versions are much more responsive. I'm not sure what else you might
find
as
you try it but you may well get a considerably more responsive version
by
using the last production version or even earlier, if necessary.

I haven't tested with other voices but I suspect this is a general
problem.
Via Voice should be very responsive.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 1:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] For all those who wanted the last xp version of nvda


I see. I read your message but I didn't see the link or I thought it
was
something else, maybe a footer. Sorry for the unnecessary request.

My clarification may have some value in case some people think they can
run
the actual installer and get current versions that way if they are
running
XP. This version has already been created but you can't create your
own.

Gene
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From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 1:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] For all those who wanted the last xp version of nvda


But that is exactly what is in the zip file a zipped up portable
version.


I know that it might annoy some doing it this way, but I see a question
about it every week nearly and thought as I have it, I might as well
share
it.
You can always strip out all add-ons etc, if you like.
The folder it creates is a stand alone portable version though not sure
if

some synths might have been removed, so be careful but espeak is
selected.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] For all those who wanted the last xp version of nvda


To clarify:
Evidently, you are saying that if you have already created a portable
version, you can run it on XP as a portable version. But that isn't
saying

that you can use the installer on an XP machine to create a portable
version. You can't.

Also, Would you mind putting the portable version in Dropbox or however
you

want to share it? I can't run the installer here but I'd like to play
with

the portable version.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 10:46 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] For all those who wanted the last xp version of nvda


I was testing a network link between my windows 7 and the xp machines
upstairs so zipped up my portable install of nvda that ran on the XP
machine, complete with add ons and tweaked symbols etc.
Now its offered with no warranty of any kind and it is a development
snapshot after the final release, so may well have the error sound.
If you want to play however.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/30xp74rs7ttnz5w/nvdaxp%20last%20version.zip?dl=1

Just unzip it to a folder, it should create its own off of wherever you
extract it from. Run the exe, or if you are really lazy, the nvda.bat
file.
You can then play with it and also install it if you so wish, but
although
its clear of nasty viruses or whatever, remember its not supported by
nvaccess. Its old and only around because some of us still keep xp
machines
running.
Note toolbar explorer is in it as aware many other older add ons.
Brian


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I would not do it.
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I would not do it.
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Re: For all those who wanted the last xp version of nvda

 

hi brian.
thanks so much for the link. i really wished to test new versions of
nvda on xp. thanks for your help, God bless you!

On 1/16/19, zahra a <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com> wrote:
hi gene. thanks so much as always for your comments and helps.
is it possible to use newer versions of nvda (portable versions) on xp?
i wish to test new espeak for reading farsi documents to see which
versions of espeak support farsi better?
is it possible that for example: someone put nvda 2018.4 portable for
me on dropbox to test on xp?
thanks again for your help, God bless you!

On 1/16/19, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
I misunderstood your message. I thought you said that you can run a
current
portable version of NVDA with XP. You were saying that you are sending
the
last version of NVDA that supports XP. So my statements were wrong about
not being able to run the installer to install it.

However, from a little playing around I did, you said this is a
development
version, not the last production but the last development version, if
others
get results like mine, it would be a good idea to try running the last
production version or earlier ones if the last production version has
these
drawbacks.

First, I'm running the version you sent on a slow XP machine, much slower
than people will generally be using. Its fine for what I use it for and
I
use my fast Windows 7 machine where this one is too slow. But on this
machine, using Via Voice, it is very unresponsive while typing. Earlier
versions are much more responsive. I'm not sure what else you might find
as
you try it but you may well get a considerably more responsive version by
using the last production version or even earlier, if necessary.

I haven't tested with other voices but I suspect this is a general
problem.
Via Voice should be very responsive.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 1:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] For all those who wanted the last xp version of nvda


I see. I read your message but I didn't see the link or I thought it was
something else, maybe a footer. Sorry for the unnecessary request.

My clarification may have some value in case some people think they can
run
the actual installer and get current versions that way if they are
running
XP. This version has already been created but you can't create your own.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 1:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] For all those who wanted the last xp version of nvda


But that is exactly what is in the zip file a zipped up portable version.


I know that it might annoy some doing it this way, but I see a question
about it every week nearly and thought as I have it, I might as well
share
it.
You can always strip out all add-ons etc, if you like.
The folder it creates is a stand alone portable version though not sure
if

some synths might have been removed, so be careful but espeak is
selected.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] For all those who wanted the last xp version of nvda


To clarify:
Evidently, you are saying that if you have already created a portable
version, you can run it on XP as a portable version. But that isn't
saying

that you can use the installer on an XP machine to create a portable
version. You can't.

Also, Would you mind putting the portable version in Dropbox or however
you

want to share it? I can't run the installer here but I'd like to play
with

the portable version.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 10:46 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] For all those who wanted the last xp version of nvda


I was testing a network link between my windows 7 and the xp machines
upstairs so zipped up my portable install of nvda that ran on the XP
machine, complete with add ons and tweaked symbols etc.
Now its offered with no warranty of any kind and it is a development
snapshot after the final release, so may well have the error sound.
If you want to play however.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/30xp74rs7ttnz5w/nvdaxp%20last%20version.zip?dl=1

Just unzip it to a folder, it should create its own off of wherever you
extract it from. Run the exe, or if you are really lazy, the nvda.bat
file.
You can then play with it and also install it if you so wish, but
although
its clear of nasty viruses or whatever, remember its not supported by
nvaccess. Its old and only around because some of us still keep xp
machines
running.
Note toolbar explorer is in it as aware many other older add ons.
Brian


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with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali
--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: For all those who wanted the last xp version of nvda

 

hi gene. thanks so much as always for your comments and helps.
is it possible to use newer versions of nvda (portable versions) on xp?
i wish to test new espeak for reading farsi documents to see which
versions of espeak support farsi better?
is it possible that for example: someone put nvda 2018.4 portable for
me on dropbox to test on xp?
thanks again for your help, God bless you!

On 1/16/19, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
I misunderstood your message. I thought you said that you can run a current
portable version of NVDA with XP. You were saying that you are sending the
last version of NVDA that supports XP. So my statements were wrong about
not being able to run the installer to install it.

However, from a little playing around I did, you said this is a development
version, not the last production but the last development version, if others
get results like mine, it would be a good idea to try running the last
production version or earlier ones if the last production version has these
drawbacks.

First, I'm running the version you sent on a slow XP machine, much slower
than people will generally be using. Its fine for what I use it for and I
use my fast Windows 7 machine where this one is too slow. But on this
machine, using Via Voice, it is very unresponsive while typing. Earlier
versions are much more responsive. I'm not sure what else you might find as
you try it but you may well get a considerably more responsive version by
using the last production version or even earlier, if necessary.

I haven't tested with other voices but I suspect this is a general problem.
Via Voice should be very responsive.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 1:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] For all those who wanted the last xp version of nvda


I see. I read your message but I didn't see the link or I thought it was
something else, maybe a footer. Sorry for the unnecessary request.

My clarification may have some value in case some people think they can run
the actual installer and get current versions that way if they are running
XP. This version has already been created but you can't create your own.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 1:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] For all those who wanted the last xp version of nvda


But that is exactly what is in the zip file a zipped up portable version.


I know that it might annoy some doing it this way, but I see a question
about it every week nearly and thought as I have it, I might as well share
it.
You can always strip out all add-ons etc, if you like.
The folder it creates is a stand alone portable version though not sure if

some synths might have been removed, so be careful but espeak is selected.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] For all those who wanted the last xp version of nvda


To clarify:
Evidently, you are saying that if you have already created a portable
version, you can run it on XP as a portable version. But that isn't saying

that you can use the installer on an XP machine to create a portable
version. You can't.

Also, Would you mind putting the portable version in Dropbox or however you

want to share it? I can't run the installer here but I'd like to play with

the portable version.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 10:46 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] For all those who wanted the last xp version of nvda


I was testing a network link between my windows 7 and the xp machines
upstairs so zipped up my portable install of nvda that ran on the XP
machine, complete with add ons and tweaked symbols etc.
Now its offered with no warranty of any kind and it is a development
snapshot after the final release, so may well have the error sound.
If you want to play however.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/30xp74rs7ttnz5w/nvdaxp%20last%20version.zip?dl=1

Just unzip it to a folder, it should create its own off of wherever you
extract it from. Run the exe, or if you are really lazy, the nvda.bat file.
You can then play with it and also install it if you so wish, but although
its clear of nasty viruses or whatever, remember its not supported by
nvaccess. Its old and only around because some of us still keep xp machines
running.
Note toolbar explorer is in it as aware many other older add ons.
Brian


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in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: Changing speech rate on the fly not working.

Adriani Botez
 

Have you maybe accidentally changed keyboard layout to laptop in nvda‘s keyboard settings?

Best
Adriani


Von meinem iPhone gesendet

Am 17.01.2019 um 06:29 schrieb Janet Brandly <jbrandly@...>:

Hi Joseph,
Wow, thanks for getting back to me so fast! Actually, I just googled it.
Jan
   
 
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 10:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Changing speech rate on the fly not working.
 

Hi,

Huh? Where did you see that Control+NVDA+left and right arrow keys are used to change rate on the fly?

To others: there is a specific reason why I’m doing it like this (will explain soon).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet Brandly
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 8:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Changing speech rate on the fly not working.

 

Hello all,

I am using Windows 10 with the latest NVDA. When I try to change speech rate on the fly using the NVDA control and either the left or right arrow keys the rate does not change and NVDA says nothing. Has this command changed? If so, what is it now?

Thanks,

Jan


Re: For all those who wanted the last xp version of nvda

Quentin Christensen
 

We do still have the last production version of NVDA which supported XP - 2017.3 - available for download at https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/releases/2017.3/nvda_2017.3.exe

In the redesign of the website last year, the link got dropped (not deliberately, the redesign started to be planned before we dropped XP support and didn't notice the omission until it was live and someone pointed it out).

Quentin.

On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 8:08 AM Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
I misunderstood your message.  I thought you said that you can run a current portable version of NVDA with XP.  You were saying that you are sending the last version of NVDA that supports XP.  So my statements were wrong about not being able to run the installer to install it.
 
However, from a little playing around I did, you said this is a development version, not the last production but the last development version, if others get results like mine, it would be a good idea to try running the last production version or earlier ones if the last production version has these drawbacks.
 
First, I'm running the version you sent on a slow XP machine, much slower than people will generally be using.  Its fine for what I use it for and I use my fast Windows 7 machine where this one is too slow.  But on this machine, using Via Voice, it is very unresponsive while typing.  Earlier versions are much more responsive.  I'm not sure what else you might find as you try it but you may well get a considerably more responsive version by using the last production version or even earlier, if necessary. 
 
I haven't tested with other voices but I suspect this is a general problem.  Via Voice should be very responsive.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 1:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] For all those who wanted the last xp version of nvda

I see.  I read your message but I didn't see the link or I thought it was something else, maybe a footer.  Sorry for the unnecessary request.
 
My clarification may have some value in case some people think they can run the actual installer and get current versions that way if they are running XP.  This version has already been created but you can't create your own.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 1:12 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] For all those who wanted the last xp version of nvda

But that is exactly what is in the zip file a zipped up portable version.


I know that it might  annoy some doing it this way, but I see a question
about it every week nearly and thought as I have it, I might as well share
it.
 You can always strip out all add-ons etc, if you like.
 The folder it creates is a stand alone portable version though not sure if
some synths might have been removed, so be careful but espeak is selected.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 5:20 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] For all those who wanted the last xp version of nvda


To clarify:
Evidently, you are saying that if you have already created a portable
version, you can run it on XP as a portable version.  But that isn't saying
that you can use the installer on an XP machine to create a portable
version.  You can't.

Also, Would you mind putting the portable version in Dropbox or however you
want to share it?  I can't run the installer here but I'd like to play with
the portable version.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 10:46 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] For all those who wanted the last xp version of nvda


I was testing a network link between my  windows 7 and the xp machines
upstairs so zipped up my portable install of nvda that ran on the XP
machine, complete with add ons and  tweaked symbols etc.
 Now its offered with no warranty of any kind and it is a development
snapshot after the final release, so may well have the error sound.
 If you want to play however.

https://www.dropbox.com/s/30xp74rs7ttnz5w/nvdaxp%20last%20version.zip?dl=1

Just unzip it to a folder, it should create its own off of wherever you
extract it from. Run the exe, or if you are really lazy, the nvda.bat file.
 You can then play with it and also install it if you so wish, but although
its clear of nasty  viruses or whatever, remember its not supported by
nvaccess. Its old and only around because some of us still keep xp machines
running.
 Note toolbar explorer is in it as aware many other older add ons.
 Brian


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Re: Changing speech rate on the fly not working.

Jackie
 

Janet, this is just a suggestion, but I'm wondering if it might not be
more helpful--& more accurate--to simply access the NVDA menu, go to
help, then go to the "command quick reference guide". There, you can
find the keys, both for desktops & laptops, that will perform any
command NVDA has. This should contain the most up-to-date & accurate
information.

I think what Joseph is trying to tell you here is that the command you
tried to use is inaccurate--for the desktop, it's NVDA+ctrl+up or
down, w/the laptop you add the shift key.

HTH.

On 1/16/19, Janet Brandly <jbrandly@shaw.ca> wrote:
Hi Joseph,
Wow, thanks for getting back to me so fast! Actually, I just googled it.
Jan


From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 10:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Changing speech rate on the fly not working.

Hi,

Huh? Where did you see that Control+NVDA+left and right arrow keys are used
to change rate on the fly?

To others: there is a specific reason why I’m doing it like this (will
explain soon).

Cheers,

Joseph



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet Brandly
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 8:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Changing speech rate on the fly not working.



Hello all,

I am using Windows 10 with the latest NVDA. When I try to change speech rate
on the fly using the NVDA control and either the left or right arrow keys
the rate does not change and NVDA says nothing. Has this command changed? If
so, what is it now?

Thanks,

Jan





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Re: Changing speech rate on the fly not working.

 

Hi Janet,

Hmmm, I see.

Can you try the following for me please:

  1. Press NVDA+number row 1 to turn on input help mode.
  2. Press the following keys in order: Control+NVDA+left arrow, Control+NVDA+right arrow, Control+NVDA+up arrow, Control+NVDA+down arrow. Be sure to listen carefully to what NVDA says about these keys.
  3. Press NVDA+number row 1 again to turn off input help mode.

 

As for response time, partly because “our agents” are located around the world, we’ve gained a reputation for fast responses and give you a “satisfactory answer” within 24 hours (for some of them, way less).

 

P.S. “our agents” = NVDA users and experts throughout the NVDA community.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet Brandly
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 9:29 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Changing speech rate on the fly not working.

 

Hi Joseph,

Wow, thanks for getting back to me so fast! Actually, I just googled it.

Jan

   

 

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 10:06 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Changing speech rate on the fly not working.

 

Hi,

Huh? Where did you see that Control+NVDA+left and right arrow keys are used to change rate on the fly?

To others: there is a specific reason why I’m doing it like this (will explain soon).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet Brandly
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 8:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Changing speech rate on the fly not working.

 

Hello all,

I am using Windows 10 with the latest NVDA. When I try to change speech rate on the fly using the NVDA control and either the left or right arrow keys the rate does not change and NVDA says nothing. Has this command changed? If so, what is it now?

Thanks,

Jan


Re: Changing speech rate on the fly not working.

Janet Brandly
 

Hi Joseph,
Wow, thanks for getting back to me so fast! Actually, I just googled it.
Jan
   
 

From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 10:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Changing speech rate on the fly not working.
 

Hi,

Huh? Where did you see that Control+NVDA+left and right arrow keys are used to change rate on the fly?

To others: there is a specific reason why I’m doing it like this (will explain soon).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet Brandly
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 8:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Changing speech rate on the fly not working.

 

Hello all,

I am using Windows 10 with the latest NVDA. When I try to change speech rate on the fly using the NVDA control and either the left or right arrow keys the rate does not change and NVDA says nothing. Has this command changed? If so, what is it now?

Thanks,

Jan


Re: In-Process for 16th January 2019

Quentin Christensen
 

You're welcome Claire!

All the best for the update to the exam (if you're one of the ones who has done it in the past day, I will send out certificates this week).

Regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Jan 17, 2019 at 3:09 AM Claire Potter <claire.potter99@...> wrote:

Hi Quentin, a big thank you for this, I am so excited about the update to the exam.

 

Warm regards,

Claire Potter,

Check out my brand new website:

www.pottersplace.me.uk

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: 16 January 2019 00:00
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] In-Process for 16th January 2019

 

Hi everyone,

 

A new NVDA release to start the year, an update to the Certification exam, and a Spanish geography lesson - all that and more in the first In-Process for 2019:  

 

https://www.nvaccess.org/post/in-process-16th-january-2019/

 

Regards

 

Quentin.

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Re: Changing speech rate on the fly not working.

 

Hi,

Huh? Where did you see that Control+NVDA+left and right arrow keys are used to change rate on the fly?

To others: there is a specific reason why I’m doing it like this (will explain soon).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet Brandly
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 8:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Changing speech rate on the fly not working.

 

Hello all,

I am using Windows 10 with the latest NVDA. When I try to change speech rate on the fly using the NVDA control and either the left or right arrow keys the rate does not change and NVDA says nothing. Has this command changed? If so, what is it now?

Thanks,

Jan


Changing speech rate on the fly not working.

Janet Brandly
 

Hello all,
I am using Windows 10 with the latest NVDA. When I try to change speech rate on the fly using the NVDA control and either the left or right arrow keys the rate does not change and NVDA says nothing. Has this command changed? If so, what is it now?
Thanks,
Jan


nvda and office mobile microsoft store apps

Josh Kennedy
 

Hi,

 

On my RCA Cambio intel atom z8350 windows 10 home  tablet the word and other office free mobile apps do not work good at all with NVDA. Would I be better off just uninstalling them and subscribing to the full version off Microsoft office and installing that?

Those apps came with the tablet.   Should I just use google docs sheets and slides in the meantime until I save up and get a full version of office for the tablet?  Well it’s a tablet laptop hybrid with a physical keyboard dock and it runs windows10 home 32bit.

 

Josh

 

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Re: Sending Synthesizer Audio To another Source

Sile
 

In my experience, the system sounds go with the main audio. NVDA sounds state with NVDA.

Sile

On Jan 16, 2019, at 3:22 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

Does this also move sounds made by nvda as well?
Also what about system sounds. Do these functions also apply for windows sounds in 7 and 10 would you know.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@nvaccess.org>
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Sent: Tuesday, January 15, 2019 11:18 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Sending Synthesizer Audio To another Source


Hi Dave,

DId you see the replies to your other question on this? Press
NVDA+control+s to open NVDA's synthesizer dialog, then press TAB once to
move to the "Output device" and set that to the output device you would
like to use.

Regards

Quentin.

On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 10:10 AM Dave Marthouse <dmarthouse@gmail.com>
wrote:

I am using NVDA as a screen reader in conjunction with some broadcast
automation software.


I want to send the synthesizer audio to another set of speakers as
naturally I do not want to have the software synthesizer mixing with
on-air audio.


Any information on how this can be accomplished would be appreciated.



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Re: TW BLUE was Re: [nvda] twitter?

Annette Moore
 

Try alt+Windows+c to bring up a conversation and alt+windows+shift+i to destroy the conversation buffer. that is, assuming you're using Windows 10. If not, the keystrokes are different. Alt+windows+k will bring up the keystroke editor, where you can either edit the keystrokes or simply look at them, then hit escape when you're finished if you're just looking at them, and the save or ok button if you edit them. Again, though, that's with using Windows 10. I don't use the graphical user interface or the menus much so I can't shed any light on how to bring up a thread or conversation that way.

Annette

On 1/16/2019 3:52 PM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:
For both of your questions I'd give the same answer. I'm not aware of any way to see a thread (nor replies to a specific tweet) using TWBlue.
It'd be a very nice feature, though, what makes me consider talking to the guy programing it for now and see if he'd accept our suggestions.

Cheers,
Marcio
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Em 16/01/2019 19:30, Cristóbal escreveu:

Two questions on TW-Blue.

How does one access a thread? Say if someone retweets a thread, I can’t figure out how to go to it. The most I can do is search for that person’s user handle, go to their timeline and hunt for it there, but even then, it’s not really a thread as much as going down their timeline.

The second question is how do you view replies to a tweet? I know there’s a view conversation and that’ll place the selected tweet in the search listview tree at the bottom, but even then, there’s really nothing there. I can open the tweet with the shift+control+V command, but that just shows the tweet info. No replies.

I’ve also been thinking of giving OpenTween a try, but thought I’d try to figure out these pretty basic features in TW_Blue first.

 

 

Cristóbal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of marcio via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 11:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: TW BLUE was Re: [nvda] twitter?

 

@tw_blue2 on Twitter itself.


Cheers,
Marcio
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Em 16/01/2019 17:45, AKH AKH escreveu:

Is there a way of contacting the devs of TWBlue?

 

 

Andrew

 

On 16/01/2019 15:55, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:

I heard about a paid tutorial for it. Maybe people who know about this one might talk more in this regarding.


Cheers,
Marcio
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Em 16/01/2019 13:48, Brice Mijares escreveu:

Is there any tutorials using this software? thanks.

On 1/16/2019 7:37 AM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:

There are two versions of TWBlue which are recent ones.
First version is the snapshot (download it from here <https://twblue.es/pubs/snapshot.zip>).
The second version is the installable and you can download it from here <https://twblue.es/pubs/twblue_setup.exe>.

Cheers,
Marcio
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Em 16/01/2019 11:07, Darren Harris via Groups.Io escreveu:


What’s the latest version of tw blue? I try to update through the app and nothing happens. I’m having a problem with receiving dm’s. they don’t come in at all. Any ideas?

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Robert Kingett
*Sent:* 16 January 2019 12:39
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: TW BLUE was Re: [nvda] twitter?

I'd suggest updating TW Blue because certain API calls no longer work from Twitter because Twitter has shut them down and did a bunch of other things to put a strangle hold on their API. If you don't update TW Blue I fear you will start to have countless bugs. Also, TW Blue is developed by blind people so it will always remain accessible to NVDA and other screen readers. What I've been trying to figure out, partly for an investigative article and partly because I am curious, is, why window eyes was not released as open source after the company was bought out. Anyway, upgrade your TW Blue.

 




 

 



Re: Sending Synthesizer Audio To another Source

Sile
 

I agree, I use this all the time. When I’m presenting slideshows with audio, it’s a way of having NVDA speak on my laptop but not over the speakers.


On Jan 15, 2019, at 11:14 PM, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:

Shaun,

I might be misinterpreting, but if you send the audio output to a particular device, it will go to that device, even if you unplug the speakers connected that device.  I wouldn't call that a bug.  Windows does the same thing.  You may actually want it if, for example, you want to swap to a different pair of speakers / headphones.

As I say, I could have misinterpreted your comment - is there an issue on Github for it?

Quentin.

On Wed, Jan 16, 2019 at 2:33 PM Shaun Everiss <sm.everiss@...> wrote:
You can set the output of the synth in the nvda settings to the speakers
you want.

Un sure if this bug is fixed, but if you then pull the speakers nvda is
not working till you plug those speakers back and change it back to your
internal card, you can fix this by always changing it back before exiting.

While we are on the subject of little bugs, I have noticed that when
changing options for the start menu nvda doesn't update itself with
content, that is hit start after changing any option and you get a
search box, you have to restart nvda before it detects any changes.



On 16/01/2019 6:36 AM, Dave Marthouse wrote:
> I am using NVDA as a screen reader in conjunction with some broadcast
> automation software.
>
>
> I want to send the synthesizer audio to another set of speakers as
> naturally I do not want to have the software synthesizer mixing with
> on-air audio.
>
>
> Any information on how this can be accomplished would be appreciated.
>
>
>





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