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NVDA not giving accurate feedback

Greg Rhodes <gkrhodes@...>
 

I downloaded latest NVDA update yesterday. All of a sudden, NVDA is sometimes reading the letter before or after where my cursor is or the line before or after whee the cursor is. For example, my cursor may be on the line between two paragraphs, but NVDA will be reading the last line of the first paragraph. Do I need to uninstall and re-install NVDA? Can I do that without losing my current NVDA settings? Other possible solutions? Thanks

 

Greg

 


Re: TW BLUE was Re: [nvda] twitter?

Richard Bartholomew
 

Hi, yes, that’s exactly what I’m saying…you will see that tweet as the first in the list followed by the tweets that led up to it.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: 17 January 2019 21:31
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: TW BLUE was Re: [nvda] twitter?

 

So that I’m clear, you’re saying following the steps of while on a tweet, by using the alt+windows key+C command to show a conversation and then navigating to that same conversation with alt+windows key+left arrow, you’re then able to see the replies to that tweet?

All this gets me is focus on that same tweet now in a conversations tab/buffer, but still with no  means to access any sort of list of replies to that particular tweet.

Am I perhaps missing or misunderstanding this process?

Please advise

 

 

Cristóbal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Bartholomew
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 11:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: TW BLUE was Re: [nvda] twitter?

 

Hmmm, interesting, and, I’m afraid, I don’t have an answer for you as I don’t remember having had to do anything specific to enable this.  I’ve also just gone through all the settings and don’t see anything obvious which affects this.

 

The only issue I have with TW Blue is the delay in receiving DM’s but this is a Twitter API issue I gather rather than a specific TW Blue one.

 

Only thing I can suggest is writing to them via the Twitter address given previously and asking them for advice.

 

Richard Bartholomew

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: 17 January 2019 16:48
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: TW BLUE was Re: [nvda] twitter?

 

May be I’m just dense. I can bring up the conversation fine (alt_windows ke+C) and go to it via the alt+windows key+left arrow, but all that does is take me to the buffer where I can see the same tweet with no ability to see any replies to it.

What step am I missing?

I don’t’ recall ever being able to review replies to a tweet that isn’t my own in TW_Blue.

 

 

Cristóbal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Darren Harris via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 1:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: TW BLUE was Re: [nvda] twitter?

 

I’ve tried tweeting them myself but they never got back to me so obviously they aren’t interested in talking to people.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annette Moore
Sent: 17 January 2019 01:19
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: TW BLUE was Re: [nvda] twitter?

 

Try alt+Windows+c to bring up a conversation and alt+windows+shift+i to destroy the conversation buffer. that is, assuming you're using Windows 10. If not, the keystrokes are different. Alt+windows+k will bring up the keystroke editor, where you can either edit the keystrokes or simply look at them, then hit escape when you're finished if you're just looking at them, and the save or ok button if you edit them. Again, though, that's with using Windows 10. I don't use the graphical user interface or the menus much so I can't shed any light on how to bring up a thread or conversation that way.

Annette

On 1/16/2019 3:52 PM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:

For both of your questions I'd give the same answer. I'm not aware of any way to see a thread (nor replies to a specific tweet) using TWBlue.
It'd be a very nice feature, though, what makes me consider talking to the guy programing it for now and see if he'd accept our suggestions.

 

Cheers,
Marcio
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Em 16/01/2019 19:30, Cristóbal escreveu:

Two questions on TW-Blue.

How does one access a thread? Say if someone retweets a thread, I can’t figure out how to go to it. The most I can do is search for that person’s user handle, go to their timeline and hunt for it there, but even then, it’s not really a thread as much as going down their timeline.

The second question is how do you view replies to a tweet? I know there’s a view conversation and that’ll place the selected tweet in the search listview tree at the bottom, but even then, there’s really nothing there. I can open the tweet with the shift+control+V command, but that just shows the tweet info. No replies.

I’ve also been thinking of giving OpenTween a try, but thought I’d try to figure out these pretty basic features in TW_Blue first.

 

 

Cristóbal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of marcio via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 11:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: TW BLUE was Re: [nvda] twitter?

 

@tw_blue2 on Twitter itself.


Cheers,
Marcio
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Em 16/01/2019 17:45, AKH AKH escreveu:

Is there a way of contacting the devs of TWBlue?

 

 

Andrew

 

On 16/01/2019 15:55, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:

I heard about a paid tutorial for it. Maybe people who know about this one might talk more in this regarding.


Cheers,
Marcio
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Em 16/01/2019 13:48, Brice Mijares escreveu:

Is there any tutorials using this software? thanks.

On 1/16/2019 7:37 AM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:

There are two versions of TWBlue which are recent ones.
First version is the snapshot (download it from here <https://twblue.es/pubs/snapshot.zip>).
The second version is the installable and you can download it from here <https://twblue.es/pubs/twblue_setup.exe>.

Cheers,
Marcio
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Em 16/01/2019 11:07, Darren Harris via Groups.Io escreveu:


What’s the latest version of tw blue? I try to update through the app and nothing happens. I’m having a problem with receiving dm’s. they don’t come in at all. Any ideas?

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Robert Kingett
*Sent:* 16 January 2019 12:39
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: TW BLUE was Re: [nvda] twitter?

I'd suggest updating TW Blue because certain API calls no longer work from Twitter because Twitter has shut them down and did a bunch of other things to put a strangle hold on their API. If you don't update TW Blue I fear you will start to have countless bugs. Also, TW Blue is developed by blind people so it will always remain accessible to NVDA and other screen readers. What I've been trying to figure out, partly for an investigative article and partly because I am curious, is, why window eyes was not released as open source after the company was bought out. Anyway, upgrade your TW Blue.

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Norwegian 8 dot braille table used by nvda

Quentin Christensen
 

Just out of curiosity, why ARE there two Norwegian 8 dot Braille tables in LibLouis in the first place?  Or have I misread the thread?

(I was going to create the GitHub issue that Joseph suggested, but wanted to be sure I understood the issue first)

On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 2:25 AM Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:
Hi,
Okay, the next step is asking NVDA people to implement needed changes via a
new GitHub issue.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lars Bjørndal
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 4:08 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Norwegian 8 dot braille table used by nvda

Hello,

I've now talked to the liblouis team about the change I suggest. You'll find
my post here:
<https://www.freelists.org/post/liblouis-liblouisxml/Switch-Norwegian-braill
e-table-in-NVDA
>

Please tell me if I have to do anything more to get the new braille table
implemented.

Thanks in advance
Lars

On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 09:54:37AM +0100, Lars Bjørndal wrote:
> Hi, Joseph!
>
> Thank you for your quick reply!
>
> You wrote:
>
> > Does the proposed table have issues of its own? If there are more issues
with the proposed braille table than the one NVDA uses now, I'm afraid we
may need to use the current table.
>
> The table that we want to use, includes the table currently in use, and
the «new» table has extra definitions. I've tested the table, and I don't
see any issue.
>
> > The hex value indicates unassigned character/braille dot patterns.
>
> Yes, that's right. And there is lot of undefined chars in the currently
used table.
>
> > I advise alerting Liblouis people about this.
>
> I'm actively contributing to liblouis. I'm very certain that nobody will
disagree to this change.
>
> Thanks in advance - Lars
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lars
> > Bjørndal
> > Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2019 12:12 PM
> > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> > Subject: [nvda] Norwegian 8 dot braille table used by nvda
> >
> > Hello, list!
> >
> > For a long time there has been trouble with the Norwegian 8 dot computer
braill table used by nvda:
> >
> > - Bullets and othe characters are represented by the typical \xxxxx
> >   garbage.
> >
> > In liblouis there is a corresponding table which is an extended version
of the table that are used currently.
> >
> > Could you please use the table no-no-8dot.utb instead of
no-no-comp8.ctb?
> >
> > I think the change is as simple as replacing the line:
> >
> > addTable("no-no-comp8.ctb", _("Norwegian 8 dot computer braille"))
> >
> > with:
> >
> > addTable("no-no-8dot.utb", _("Norwegian 8 dot computer braille"))
> >
> > in the file brailleTables.py in the source directory.
> >
> > Thanks in advance - Lars
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>








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Re: TW BLUE was Re: [nvda] twitter?

Cristóbal
 

So that I’m clear, you’re saying following the steps of while on a tweet, by using the alt+windows key+C command to show a conversation and then navigating to that same conversation with alt+windows key+left arrow, you’re then able to see the replies to that tweet?

All this gets me is focus on that same tweet now in a conversations tab/buffer, but still with no  means to access any sort of list of replies to that particular tweet.

Am I perhaps missing or misunderstanding this process?

Please advise

 

 

Cristóbal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Richard Bartholomew
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 11:45 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: TW BLUE was Re: [nvda] twitter?

 

Hmmm, interesting, and, I’m afraid, I don’t have an answer for you as I don’t remember having had to do anything specific to enable this.  I’ve also just gone through all the settings and don’t see anything obvious which affects this.

 

The only issue I have with TW Blue is the delay in receiving DM’s but this is a Twitter API issue I gather rather than a specific TW Blue one.

 

Only thing I can suggest is writing to them via the Twitter address given previously and asking them for advice.

 

Richard Bartholomew

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: 17 January 2019 16:48
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: TW BLUE was Re: [nvda] twitter?

 

May be I’m just dense. I can bring up the conversation fine (alt_windows ke+C) and go to it via the alt+windows key+left arrow, but all that does is take me to the buffer where I can see the same tweet with no ability to see any replies to it.

What step am I missing?

I don’t’ recall ever being able to review replies to a tweet that isn’t my own in TW_Blue.

 

 

Cristóbal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Darren Harris via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 1:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: TW BLUE was Re: [nvda] twitter?

 

I’ve tried tweeting them myself but they never got back to me so obviously they aren’t interested in talking to people.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annette Moore
Sent: 17 January 2019 01:19
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: TW BLUE was Re: [nvda] twitter?

 

Try alt+Windows+c to bring up a conversation and alt+windows+shift+i to destroy the conversation buffer. that is, assuming you're using Windows 10. If not, the keystrokes are different. Alt+windows+k will bring up the keystroke editor, where you can either edit the keystrokes or simply look at them, then hit escape when you're finished if you're just looking at them, and the save or ok button if you edit them. Again, though, that's with using Windows 10. I don't use the graphical user interface or the menus much so I can't shed any light on how to bring up a thread or conversation that way.

Annette

On 1/16/2019 3:52 PM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:

For both of your questions I'd give the same answer. I'm not aware of any way to see a thread (nor replies to a specific tweet) using TWBlue.
It'd be a very nice feature, though, what makes me consider talking to the guy programing it for now and see if he'd accept our suggestions.

 

Cheers,
Marcio
Follow me on Twitter

Em 16/01/2019 19:30, Cristóbal escreveu:

Two questions on TW-Blue.

How does one access a thread? Say if someone retweets a thread, I can’t figure out how to go to it. The most I can do is search for that person’s user handle, go to their timeline and hunt for it there, but even then, it’s not really a thread as much as going down their timeline.

The second question is how do you view replies to a tweet? I know there’s a view conversation and that’ll place the selected tweet in the search listview tree at the bottom, but even then, there’s really nothing there. I can open the tweet with the shift+control+V command, but that just shows the tweet info. No replies.

I’ve also been thinking of giving OpenTween a try, but thought I’d try to figure out these pretty basic features in TW_Blue first.

 

 

Cristóbal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of marcio via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 11:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: TW BLUE was Re: [nvda] twitter?

 

@tw_blue2 on Twitter itself.


Cheers,
Marcio
Follow me on Twitter

Em 16/01/2019 17:45, AKH AKH escreveu:

Is there a way of contacting the devs of TWBlue?

 

 

Andrew

 

On 16/01/2019 15:55, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:

I heard about a paid tutorial for it. Maybe people who know about this one might talk more in this regarding.


Cheers,
Marcio
Follow me on Twitter

Em 16/01/2019 13:48, Brice Mijares escreveu:

Is there any tutorials using this software? thanks.

On 1/16/2019 7:37 AM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:

There are two versions of TWBlue which are recent ones.
First version is the snapshot (download it from here <https://twblue.es/pubs/snapshot.zip>).
The second version is the installable and you can download it from here <https://twblue.es/pubs/twblue_setup.exe>.

Cheers,
Marcio
Follow me on Twitter <https://twitter.com/firirinfonfon>

Em 16/01/2019 11:07, Darren Harris via Groups.Io escreveu:


What’s the latest version of tw blue? I try to update through the app and nothing happens. I’m having a problem with receiving dm’s. they don’t come in at all. Any ideas?

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Robert Kingett
*Sent:* 16 January 2019 12:39
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: TW BLUE was Re: [nvda] twitter?

I'd suggest updating TW Blue because certain API calls no longer work from Twitter because Twitter has shut them down and did a bunch of other things to put a strangle hold on their API. If you don't update TW Blue I fear you will start to have countless bugs. Also, TW Blue is developed by blind people so it will always remain accessible to NVDA and other screen readers. What I've been trying to figure out, partly for an investigative article and partly because I am curious, is, why window eyes was not released as open source after the company was bought out. Anyway, upgrade your TW Blue.

 

 

 

 

 


Re: BARD Express

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

No, BARD is what our National library uses for digital books and magazines for downloading to our digital players or smart phones.
***
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io" <bglists@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 4:17 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] BARD Express


You mean the Microsoft narrator? We don't use Bard over here in the uk.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Robert Doc Wright godfearer" <godfearer@...>
To: "NVDA" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 10:51 AM
Subject: [nvda] BARD Express


has there been any consideration to fix NVDA to read the entire annotation when searching for books in BARD express? Currantly it only reads the title, author and a fraction of the annotation then jumps to the narrator.
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Re: Changing speech rate on the fly not working.

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

Since you are using your laptop you must include the shift key. So, capslock+shift+control with left or right arrow will move you from rate to pitch to volume etc. Which ever you choose you then hold the same 3 keys and up ror down arrow to increase or decrease.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Janet Brandly" <jbrandly@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 9:37 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Changing speech rate on the fly not working.


Hello Joseph and all,

I am using the laptop layout with the caps lock as the NVDA key.

When I press NVDA plus control plus left/right arrow keys within NVDA input help mode it says that the review cursor will move to the next or previous word/object. Using the NVDA and control keys with up and down arrows just echoes the keys that have been pressed. While still in input mode, adding the shift key to the NVDA control and arrow keys describes changes to the synth ring-whatever that is LOL. Does this help?

Thank you,

Jan


-----Original Message-----
From: Jackie
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 10:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Changing speech rate on the fly not working.

Janet, this is just a suggestion, but I'm wondering if it might not be
more helpful--& more accurate--to simply access the NVDA menu, go to
help, then go to the "command quick reference guide". There, you can
find the keys, both for desktops & laptops, that will perform any
command NVDA has. This should contain the most up-to-date & accurate
information.

I think what Joseph is trying to tell you here is that the command you
tried to use is inaccurate--for the desktop, it's NVDA+ctrl+up or
down, w/the laptop you add the shift key.

HTH.

On 1/16/19, Janet Brandly <jbrandly@...> wrote:
Hi Joseph,
Wow, thanks for getting back to me so fast! Actually, I just googled it.
Jan


From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 10:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Changing speech rate on the fly not working.

Hi,

Huh? Where did you see that Control+NVDA+left and right arrow keys are used
to change rate on the fly?

To others: there is a specific reason why I’m doing it like this (will
explain soon).

Cheers,

Joseph



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet Brandly
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 8:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Changing speech rate on the fly not working.



Hello all,

I am using Windows 10 with the latest NVDA. When I try to change speech rate
on the fly using the NVDA control and either the left or right arrow keys
the rate does not change and NVDA says nothing. Has this command changed? If
so, what is it now?

Thanks,

Jan






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Re: TW BLUE was Re: [nvda] twitter?

AKH AKH
 

Hi Marcio and Roger


Great advice, cheers!


Andrew


On 17/01/2019 20:44, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:
Em 17/01/2019 18:27, AKH AKH escreveu:

Can I send anyone a DM or do they have to follow me?


On the current scenario of Twitter, both answers are correct.
That is, you can send DMs to users who aren't following you as well as maybe needing they following to do it. Actually, it's a setting which one can change and allow or not this to happen.
I don't know, about TWBlue's profile on Twitter, which configuration they currently have. But if you can't send a DM to them, just send them a normal mention. That is, a public tweet with their user before what you are wanting to write.

Hth

Cheers,
Marcio
Follow me on Twitter


Re: TW BLUE was Re: [nvda] twitter?

 

Em 17/01/2019 18:27, AKH AKH escreveu:

Can I send anyone a DM or do they have to follow me?


On the current scenario of Twitter, both answers are correct.
That is, you can send DMs to users who aren't following you as well as maybe needing they following to do it. Actually, it's a setting which one can change and allow or not this to happen.
I don't know, about TWBlue's profile on Twitter, which configuration they currently have. But if you can't send a DM to them, just send them a normal mention. That is, a public tweet with their user before what you are wanting to write.

Hth

Cheers,
Marcio
Follow me on Twitter


Re: TW BLUE was Re: [nvda] twitter?

Roger Stewart
 

Yes, you can only send a DM to those who are following you. If you  try to send to someone who is not following you, it won't be sent.
Roger








On 1/17/2019 2:27 PM, AKH AKH wrote:

I use NVDA and TW Blue. I've tried to send a DM to TW Blue, but it does not send.  May be I do not fully understand how Twitter works.  Can I send anyone a DM or do they have to follow me?


Andrew


On 17/01/2019 16:47, Cristóbal wrote:

May be I’m just dense. I can bring up the conversation fine (alt_windows ke+C) and go to it via the alt+windows key+left arrow, but all that does is take me to the buffer where I can see the same tweet with no ability to see any replies to it.

What step am I missing?

I don’t’ recall ever being able to review replies to a tweet that isn’t my own in TW_Blue.

 

 

Cristóbal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Darren Harris via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 1:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: TW BLUE was Re: [nvda] twitter?

 

I’ve tried tweeting them myself but they never got back to me so obviously they aren’t interested in talking to people.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annette Moore
Sent: 17 January 2019 01:19
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: TW BLUE was Re: [nvda] twitter?

 

Try alt+Windows+c to bring up a conversation and alt+windows+shift+i to destroy the conversation buffer. that is, assuming you're using Windows 10. If not, the keystrokes are different. Alt+windows+k will bring up the keystroke editor, where you can either edit the keystrokes or simply look at them, then hit escape when you're finished if you're just looking at them, and the save or ok button if you edit them. Again, though, that's with using Windows 10. I don't use the graphical user interface or the menus much so I can't shed any light on how to bring up a thread or conversation that way.

Annette

On 1/16/2019 3:52 PM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:

For both of your questions I'd give the same answer. I'm not aware of any way to see a thread (nor replies to a specific tweet) using TWBlue.
It'd be a very nice feature, though, what makes me consider talking to the guy programing it for now and see if he'd accept our suggestions.

 

Cheers,
Marcio
Follow me on Twitter

Em 16/01/2019 19:30, Cristóbal escreveu:

Two questions on TW-Blue.

How does one access a thread? Say if someone retweets a thread, I can’t figure out how to go to it. The most I can do is search for that person’s user handle, go to their timeline and hunt for it there, but even then, it’s not really a thread as much as going down their timeline.

The second question is how do you view replies to a tweet? I know there’s a view conversation and that’ll place the selected tweet in the search listview tree at the bottom, but even then, there’s really nothing there. I can open the tweet with the shift+control+V command, but that just shows the tweet info. No replies.

I’ve also been thinking of giving OpenTween a try, but thought I’d try to figure out these pretty basic features in TW_Blue first.

 

 

Cristóbal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of marcio via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 11:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: TW BLUE was Re: [nvda] twitter?

 

@tw_blue2 on Twitter itself.


Cheers,
Marcio
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Em 16/01/2019 17:45, AKH AKH escreveu:

Is there a way of contacting the devs of TWBlue?

 

 

Andrew

 

On 16/01/2019 15:55, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:

I heard about a paid tutorial for it. Maybe people who know about this one might talk more in this regarding.


Cheers,
Marcio
Follow me on Twitter

Em 16/01/2019 13:48, Brice Mijares escreveu:

Is there any tutorials using this software? thanks.

On 1/16/2019 7:37 AM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:

There are two versions of TWBlue which are recent ones.
First version is the snapshot (download it from here <https://twblue.es/pubs/snapshot.zip>).
The second version is the installable and you can download it from here <https://twblue.es/pubs/twblue_setup.exe>.

Cheers,
Marcio
Follow me on Twitter <https://twitter.com/firirinfonfon>

Em 16/01/2019 11:07, Darren Harris via Groups.Io escreveu:


What’s the latest version of tw blue? I try to update through the app and nothing happens. I’m having a problem with receiving dm’s. they don’t come in at all. Any ideas?

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Robert Kingett
*Sent:* 16 January 2019 12:39
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: TW BLUE was Re: [nvda] twitter?

I'd suggest updating TW Blue because certain API calls no longer work from Twitter because Twitter has shut them down and did a bunch of other things to put a strangle hold on their API. If you don't update TW Blue I fear you will start to have countless bugs. Also, TW Blue is developed by blind people so it will always remain accessible to NVDA and other screen readers. What I've been trying to figure out, partly for an investigative article and partly because I am curious, is, why window eyes was not released as open source after the company was bought out. Anyway, upgrade your TW Blue.

 

 

 

 

 



Re: TW BLUE was Re: [nvda] twitter?

AKH AKH
 

I use NVDA and TW Blue. I've tried to send a DM to TW Blue, but it does not send.  May be I do not fully understand how Twitter works.  Can I send anyone a DM or do they have to follow me?


Andrew


On 17/01/2019 16:47, Cristóbal wrote:

May be I’m just dense. I can bring up the conversation fine (alt_windows ke+C) and go to it via the alt+windows key+left arrow, but all that does is take me to the buffer where I can see the same tweet with no ability to see any replies to it.

What step am I missing?

I don’t’ recall ever being able to review replies to a tweet that isn’t my own in TW_Blue.

 

 

Cristóbal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Darren Harris via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 1:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: TW BLUE was Re: [nvda] twitter?

 

I’ve tried tweeting them myself but they never got back to me so obviously they aren’t interested in talking to people.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annette Moore
Sent: 17 January 2019 01:19
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: TW BLUE was Re: [nvda] twitter?

 

Try alt+Windows+c to bring up a conversation and alt+windows+shift+i to destroy the conversation buffer. that is, assuming you're using Windows 10. If not, the keystrokes are different. Alt+windows+k will bring up the keystroke editor, where you can either edit the keystrokes or simply look at them, then hit escape when you're finished if you're just looking at them, and the save or ok button if you edit them. Again, though, that's with using Windows 10. I don't use the graphical user interface or the menus much so I can't shed any light on how to bring up a thread or conversation that way.

Annette

On 1/16/2019 3:52 PM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:

For both of your questions I'd give the same answer. I'm not aware of any way to see a thread (nor replies to a specific tweet) using TWBlue.
It'd be a very nice feature, though, what makes me consider talking to the guy programing it for now and see if he'd accept our suggestions.

 

Cheers,
Marcio
Follow me on Twitter

Em 16/01/2019 19:30, Cristóbal escreveu:

Two questions on TW-Blue.

How does one access a thread? Say if someone retweets a thread, I can’t figure out how to go to it. The most I can do is search for that person’s user handle, go to their timeline and hunt for it there, but even then, it’s not really a thread as much as going down their timeline.

The second question is how do you view replies to a tweet? I know there’s a view conversation and that’ll place the selected tweet in the search listview tree at the bottom, but even then, there’s really nothing there. I can open the tweet with the shift+control+V command, but that just shows the tweet info. No replies.

I’ve also been thinking of giving OpenTween a try, but thought I’d try to figure out these pretty basic features in TW_Blue first.

 

 

Cristóbal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of marcio via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 11:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: TW BLUE was Re: [nvda] twitter?

 

@tw_blue2 on Twitter itself.


Cheers,
Marcio
Follow me on Twitter

Em 16/01/2019 17:45, AKH AKH escreveu:

Is there a way of contacting the devs of TWBlue?

 

 

Andrew

 

On 16/01/2019 15:55, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:

I heard about a paid tutorial for it. Maybe people who know about this one might talk more in this regarding.


Cheers,
Marcio
Follow me on Twitter

Em 16/01/2019 13:48, Brice Mijares escreveu:

Is there any tutorials using this software? thanks.

On 1/16/2019 7:37 AM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:

There are two versions of TWBlue which are recent ones.
First version is the snapshot (download it from here <https://twblue.es/pubs/snapshot.zip>).
The second version is the installable and you can download it from here <https://twblue.es/pubs/twblue_setup.exe>.

Cheers,
Marcio
Follow me on Twitter <https://twitter.com/firirinfonfon>

Em 16/01/2019 11:07, Darren Harris via Groups.Io escreveu:


What’s the latest version of tw blue? I try to update through the app and nothing happens. I’m having a problem with receiving dm’s. they don’t come in at all. Any ideas?

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Robert Kingett
*Sent:* 16 January 2019 12:39
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: TW BLUE was Re: [nvda] twitter?

I'd suggest updating TW Blue because certain API calls no longer work from Twitter because Twitter has shut them down and did a bunch of other things to put a strangle hold on their API. If you don't update TW Blue I fear you will start to have countless bugs. Also, TW Blue is developed by blind people so it will always remain accessible to NVDA and other screen readers. What I've been trying to figure out, partly for an investigative article and partly because I am curious, is, why window eyes was not released as open source after the company was bought out. Anyway, upgrade your TW Blue.

 

 

 

 

 


Re: TW BLUE was Re: [nvda] twitter?

Richard Bartholomew
 

Hmmm, interesting, and, I’m afraid, I don’t have an answer for you as I don’t remember having had to do anything specific to enable this.  I’ve also just gone through all the settings and don’t see anything obvious which affects this.

 

The only issue I have with TW Blue is the delay in receiving DM’s but this is a Twitter API issue I gather rather than a specific TW Blue one.

 

Only thing I can suggest is writing to them via the Twitter address given previously and asking them for advice.

 

Richard Bartholomew

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cristóbal
Sent: 17 January 2019 16:48
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: TW BLUE was Re: [nvda] twitter?

 

May be I’m just dense. I can bring up the conversation fine (alt_windows ke+C) and go to it via the alt+windows key+left arrow, but all that does is take me to the buffer where I can see the same tweet with no ability to see any replies to it.

What step am I missing?

I don’t’ recall ever being able to review replies to a tweet that isn’t my own in TW_Blue.

 

 

Cristóbal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Darren Harris via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 1:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: TW BLUE was Re: [nvda] twitter?

 

I’ve tried tweeting them myself but they never got back to me so obviously they aren’t interested in talking to people.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annette Moore
Sent: 17 January 2019 01:19
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: TW BLUE was Re: [nvda] twitter?

 

Try alt+Windows+c to bring up a conversation and alt+windows+shift+i to destroy the conversation buffer. that is, assuming you're using Windows 10. If not, the keystrokes are different. Alt+windows+k will bring up the keystroke editor, where you can either edit the keystrokes or simply look at them, then hit escape when you're finished if you're just looking at them, and the save or ok button if you edit them. Again, though, that's with using Windows 10. I don't use the graphical user interface or the menus much so I can't shed any light on how to bring up a thread or conversation that way.

Annette

On 1/16/2019 3:52 PM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:

For both of your questions I'd give the same answer. I'm not aware of any way to see a thread (nor replies to a specific tweet) using TWBlue.
It'd be a very nice feature, though, what makes me consider talking to the guy programing it for now and see if he'd accept our suggestions.

 

Cheers,
Marcio
Follow me on Twitter

Em 16/01/2019 19:30, Cristóbal escreveu:

Two questions on TW-Blue.

How does one access a thread? Say if someone retweets a thread, I can’t figure out how to go to it. The most I can do is search for that person’s user handle, go to their timeline and hunt for it there, but even then, it’s not really a thread as much as going down their timeline.

The second question is how do you view replies to a tweet? I know there’s a view conversation and that’ll place the selected tweet in the search listview tree at the bottom, but even then, there’s really nothing there. I can open the tweet with the shift+control+V command, but that just shows the tweet info. No replies.

I’ve also been thinking of giving OpenTween a try, but thought I’d try to figure out these pretty basic features in TW_Blue first.

 

 

Cristóbal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of marcio via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 11:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: TW BLUE was Re: [nvda] twitter?

 

@tw_blue2 on Twitter itself.


Cheers,
Marcio
Follow me on Twitter

Em 16/01/2019 17:45, AKH AKH escreveu:

Is there a way of contacting the devs of TWBlue?

 

 

Andrew

 

On 16/01/2019 15:55, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:

I heard about a paid tutorial for it. Maybe people who know about this one might talk more in this regarding.


Cheers,
Marcio
Follow me on Twitter

Em 16/01/2019 13:48, Brice Mijares escreveu:

Is there any tutorials using this software? thanks.

On 1/16/2019 7:37 AM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:

There are two versions of TWBlue which are recent ones.
First version is the snapshot (download it from here <https://twblue.es/pubs/snapshot.zip>).
The second version is the installable and you can download it from here <https://twblue.es/pubs/twblue_setup.exe>.

Cheers,
Marcio
Follow me on Twitter <https://twitter.com/firirinfonfon>

Em 16/01/2019 11:07, Darren Harris via Groups.Io escreveu:


What’s the latest version of tw blue? I try to update through the app and nothing happens. I’m having a problem with receiving dm’s. they don’t come in at all. Any ideas?

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Robert Kingett
*Sent:* 16 January 2019 12:39
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: TW BLUE was Re: [nvda] twitter?

I'd suggest updating TW Blue because certain API calls no longer work from Twitter because Twitter has shut them down and did a bunch of other things to put a strangle hold on their API. If you don't update TW Blue I fear you will start to have countless bugs. Also, TW Blue is developed by blind people so it will always remain accessible to NVDA and other screen readers. What I've been trying to figure out, partly for an investigative article and partly because I am curious, is, why window eyes was not released as open source after the company was bought out. Anyway, upgrade your TW Blue.

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Changing speech rate on the fly not working.

 

Hi,
I hope I did last night when I wrote the circular panel and switches analogy.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet Brandly
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 10:26 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Changing speech rate on the fly not working.

Hi Jackie and all,

Jackie, thanks for clearing that up, I think I've got it solved. However, I think the term "synth ring" could be explained better.
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: Jackie
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 9:51 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Changing speech rate on the fly not working.

Janet, the synth ring lets you go around to various settings in the speech synthesizer dialog. This is where you can get to your rate setting. So, mine started w/rate; a press gets me to pitch, another to volume, still another to the voice being used, & the last 1 is back to rate--thus the word "ring", as you'll eventually end up back where you started.

If you wish to change 1 of those settings, when it's on the 1 you want, ie, rate, then just press control NVDA up/down for desktop, or
ctrl+NVDA+shift+up/down for laptop.

Hope this helps.

On 1/17/19, Janet Brandly <jbrandly@...> wrote:
Hello Joseph and all,

I am using the laptop layout with the caps lock as the NVDA key.

When I press NVDA plus control plus left/right arrow keys within NVDA
input

help mode it says that the review cursor will move to the next or
previous word/object. Using the NVDA and control keys with up and down
arrows just echoes the keys that have been pressed. While still in
input mode, adding the shift key to the NVDA control and arrow keys
describes changes to the synth ring-whatever that is LOL. Does this help?

Thank you,

Jan


-----Original Message-----
From: Jackie
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 10:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Changing speech rate on the fly not working.

Janet, this is just a suggestion, but I'm wondering if it might not be
more helpful--& more accurate--to simply access the NVDA menu, go to
help, then go to the "command quick reference guide". There, you can
find the keys, both for desktops & laptops, that will perform any
command NVDA has. This should contain the most up-to-date & accurate
information.

I think what Joseph is trying to tell you here is that the command you
tried to use is inaccurate--for the desktop, it's NVDA+ctrl+up or
down, w/the laptop you add the shift key.

HTH.

On 1/16/19, Janet Brandly <jbrandly@...> wrote:
Hi Joseph,
Wow, thanks for getting back to me so fast! Actually, I just googled it.
Jan


From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 10:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Changing speech rate on the fly not working.

Hi,

Huh? Where did you see that Control+NVDA+left and right arrow keys
are used to change rate on the fly?

To others: there is a specific reason why I’m doing it like this
(will explain soon).

Cheers,

Joseph



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet
Brandly
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 8:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Changing speech rate on the fly not working.



Hello all,

I am using Windows 10 with the latest NVDA. When I try to change
speech rate on the fly using the NVDA control and either the left or
right arrow keys the rate does not change and NVDA says nothing. Has
this command changed?

If
so, what is it now?

Thanks,

Jan






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Re: Changing speech rate on the fly not working.

Janet Brandly
 

Hi Jackie and all,

Jackie, thanks for clearing that up, I think I've got it solved. However, I think the term "synth ring" could be explained better.
Janet

-----Original Message-----
From: Jackie
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 9:51 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Changing speech rate on the fly not working.

Janet, the synth ring lets you go around to various settings in the
speech synthesizer dialog. This is where you can get to your rate
setting. So, mine started w/rate; a press gets me to pitch, another to
volume, still another to the voice being used, & the last 1 is back to
rate--thus the word "ring", as you'll eventually end up back where you
started.

If you wish to change 1 of those settings, when it's on the 1 you
want, ie, rate, then just press control NVDA up/down for desktop, or
ctrl+NVDA+shift+up/down for laptop.

Hope this helps.

On 1/17/19, Janet Brandly <jbrandly@...> wrote:
Hello Joseph and all,

I am using the laptop layout with the caps lock as the NVDA key.

When I press NVDA plus control plus left/right arrow keys within NVDA input

help mode it says that the review cursor will move to the next or previous
word/object. Using the NVDA and control keys with up and down arrows just
echoes the keys that have been pressed. While still in input mode, adding
the shift key to the NVDA control and arrow keys describes changes to the
synth ring-whatever that is LOL. Does this help?

Thank you,

Jan


-----Original Message-----
From: Jackie
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 10:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Changing speech rate on the fly not working.

Janet, this is just a suggestion, but I'm wondering if it might not be
more helpful--& more accurate--to simply access the NVDA menu, go to
help, then go to the "command quick reference guide". There, you can
find the keys, both for desktops & laptops, that will perform any
command NVDA has. This should contain the most up-to-date & accurate
information.

I think what Joseph is trying to tell you here is that the command you
tried to use is inaccurate--for the desktop, it's NVDA+ctrl+up or
down, w/the laptop you add the shift key.

HTH.

On 1/16/19, Janet Brandly <jbrandly@...> wrote:
Hi Joseph,
Wow, thanks for getting back to me so fast! Actually, I just googled it.
Jan


From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 10:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Changing speech rate on the fly not working.

Hi,

Huh? Where did you see that Control+NVDA+left and right arrow keys are
used
to change rate on the fly?

To others: there is a specific reason why I’m doing it like this (will
explain soon).

Cheers,

Joseph



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet
Brandly
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 8:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Changing speech rate on the fly not working.



Hello all,

I am using Windows 10 with the latest NVDA. When I try to change speech
rate
on the fly using the NVDA control and either the left or right arrow keys
the rate does not change and NVDA says nothing. Has this command changed?

If
so, what is it now?

Thanks,

Jan






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Re: Changing speech rate on the fly not working.

 

Hi Janet,
Yes, you got it. If using laptop layout, you need to add the Shift key to the mix.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet Brandly
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 8:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Changing speech rate on the fly not working.

Hello Joseph and all,

I am using the laptop layout with the caps lock as the NVDA key.

When I press NVDA plus control plus left/right arrow keys within NVDA input help mode it says that the review cursor will move to the next or previous word/object. Using the NVDA and control keys with up and down arrows just echoes the keys that have been pressed. While still in input mode, adding the shift key to the NVDA control and arrow keys describes changes to the synth ring-whatever that is LOL. Does this help?

Thank you,

Jan


-----Original Message-----
From: Jackie
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 10:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Changing speech rate on the fly not working.

Janet, this is just a suggestion, but I'm wondering if it might not be more helpful--& more accurate--to simply access the NVDA menu, go to help, then go to the "command quick reference guide". There, you can find the keys, both for desktops & laptops, that will perform any command NVDA has. This should contain the most up-to-date & accurate information.

I think what Joseph is trying to tell you here is that the command you tried to use is inaccurate--for the desktop, it's NVDA+ctrl+up or down, w/the laptop you add the shift key.

HTH.

On 1/16/19, Janet Brandly <jbrandly@...> wrote:
Hi Joseph,
Wow, thanks for getting back to me so fast! Actually, I just googled it.
Jan


From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 10:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Changing speech rate on the fly not working.

Hi,

Huh? Where did you see that Control+NVDA+left and right arrow keys are
used to change rate on the fly?

To others: there is a specific reason why I’m doing it like this (will
explain soon).

Cheers,

Joseph



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet
Brandly
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 8:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Changing speech rate on the fly not working.



Hello all,

I am using Windows 10 with the latest NVDA. When I try to change
speech rate on the fly using the NVDA control and either the left or
right arrow keys the rate does not change and NVDA says nothing. Has
this command changed?
If
so, what is it now?

Thanks,

Jan






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Re: Changing speech rate on the fly not working.

Jackie
 

Janet, the synth ring lets you go around to various settings in the
speech synthesizer dialog. This is where you can get to your rate
setting. So, mine started w/rate; a press gets me to pitch, another to
volume, still another to the voice being used, & the last 1 is back to
rate--thus the word "ring", as you'll eventually end up back where you
started.

If you wish to change 1 of those settings, when it's on the 1 you
want, ie, rate, then just press control NVDA up/down for desktop, or
ctrl+NVDA+shift+up/down for laptop.

Hope this helps.

On 1/17/19, Janet Brandly <jbrandly@...> wrote:
Hello Joseph and all,

I am using the laptop layout with the caps lock as the NVDA key.

When I press NVDA plus control plus left/right arrow keys within NVDA input

help mode it says that the review cursor will move to the next or previous
word/object. Using the NVDA and control keys with up and down arrows just
echoes the keys that have been pressed. While still in input mode, adding
the shift key to the NVDA control and arrow keys describes changes to the
synth ring-whatever that is LOL. Does this help?

Thank you,

Jan


-----Original Message-----
From: Jackie
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 10:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Changing speech rate on the fly not working.

Janet, this is just a suggestion, but I'm wondering if it might not be
more helpful--& more accurate--to simply access the NVDA menu, go to
help, then go to the "command quick reference guide". There, you can
find the keys, both for desktops & laptops, that will perform any
command NVDA has. This should contain the most up-to-date & accurate
information.

I think what Joseph is trying to tell you here is that the command you
tried to use is inaccurate--for the desktop, it's NVDA+ctrl+up or
down, w/the laptop you add the shift key.

HTH.

On 1/16/19, Janet Brandly <jbrandly@...> wrote:
Hi Joseph,
Wow, thanks for getting back to me so fast! Actually, I just googled it.
Jan


From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 10:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Changing speech rate on the fly not working.

Hi,

Huh? Where did you see that Control+NVDA+left and right arrow keys are
used
to change rate on the fly?

To others: there is a specific reason why I’m doing it like this (will
explain soon).

Cheers,

Joseph



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet
Brandly
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 8:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Changing speech rate on the fly not working.



Hello all,

I am using Windows 10 with the latest NVDA. When I try to change speech
rate
on the fly using the NVDA control and either the left or right arrow keys
the rate does not change and NVDA says nothing. Has this command changed?

If
so, what is it now?

Thanks,

Jan






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Re: TW BLUE was Re: [nvda] twitter?

Cristóbal
 

May be I’m just dense. I can bring up the conversation fine (alt_windows ke+C) and go to it via the alt+windows key+left arrow, but all that does is take me to the buffer where I can see the same tweet with no ability to see any replies to it.

What step am I missing?

I don’t’ recall ever being able to review replies to a tweet that isn’t my own in TW_Blue.

 

 

Cristóbal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Darren Harris via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 1:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: TW BLUE was Re: [nvda] twitter?

 

I’ve tried tweeting them myself but they never got back to me so obviously they aren’t interested in talking to people.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annette Moore
Sent: 17 January 2019 01:19
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: TW BLUE was Re: [nvda] twitter?

 

Try alt+Windows+c to bring up a conversation and alt+windows+shift+i to destroy the conversation buffer. that is, assuming you're using Windows 10. If not, the keystrokes are different. Alt+windows+k will bring up the keystroke editor, where you can either edit the keystrokes or simply look at them, then hit escape when you're finished if you're just looking at them, and the save or ok button if you edit them. Again, though, that's with using Windows 10. I don't use the graphical user interface or the menus much so I can't shed any light on how to bring up a thread or conversation that way.

Annette

On 1/16/2019 3:52 PM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:

For both of your questions I'd give the same answer. I'm not aware of any way to see a thread (nor replies to a specific tweet) using TWBlue.
It'd be a very nice feature, though, what makes me consider talking to the guy programing it for now and see if he'd accept our suggestions.

 

Cheers,
Marcio
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Em 16/01/2019 19:30, Cristóbal escreveu:

Two questions on TW-Blue.

How does one access a thread? Say if someone retweets a thread, I can’t figure out how to go to it. The most I can do is search for that person’s user handle, go to their timeline and hunt for it there, but even then, it’s not really a thread as much as going down their timeline.

The second question is how do you view replies to a tweet? I know there’s a view conversation and that’ll place the selected tweet in the search listview tree at the bottom, but even then, there’s really nothing there. I can open the tweet with the shift+control+V command, but that just shows the tweet info. No replies.

I’ve also been thinking of giving OpenTween a try, but thought I’d try to figure out these pretty basic features in TW_Blue first.

 

 

Cristóbal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of marcio via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 11:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: TW BLUE was Re: [nvda] twitter?

 

@tw_blue2 on Twitter itself.


Cheers,
Marcio
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Em 16/01/2019 17:45, AKH AKH escreveu:

Is there a way of contacting the devs of TWBlue?

 

 

Andrew

 

On 16/01/2019 15:55, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:

I heard about a paid tutorial for it. Maybe people who know about this one might talk more in this regarding.


Cheers,
Marcio
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Em 16/01/2019 13:48, Brice Mijares escreveu:

Is there any tutorials using this software? thanks.

On 1/16/2019 7:37 AM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:

There are two versions of TWBlue which are recent ones.
First version is the snapshot (download it from here <https://twblue.es/pubs/snapshot.zip>).
The second version is the installable and you can download it from here <https://twblue.es/pubs/twblue_setup.exe>.

Cheers,
Marcio
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Em 16/01/2019 11:07, Darren Harris via Groups.Io escreveu:


What’s the latest version of tw blue? I try to update through the app and nothing happens. I’m having a problem with receiving dm’s. they don’t come in at all. Any ideas?

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> *On Behalf Of *Robert Kingett
*Sent:* 16 January 2019 12:39
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: TW BLUE was Re: [nvda] twitter?

I'd suggest updating TW Blue because certain API calls no longer work from Twitter because Twitter has shut them down and did a bunch of other things to put a strangle hold on their API. If you don't update TW Blue I fear you will start to have countless bugs. Also, TW Blue is developed by blind people so it will always remain accessible to NVDA and other screen readers. What I've been trying to figure out, partly for an investigative article and partly because I am curious, is, why window eyes was not released as open source after the company was bought out. Anyway, upgrade your TW Blue.

 

 

 

 

 


Re: Changing speech rate on the fly not working.

Janet Brandly
 

Hello Joseph and all,

I am using the laptop layout with the caps lock as the NVDA key.

When I press NVDA plus control plus left/right arrow keys within NVDA input help mode it says that the review cursor will move to the next or previous word/object. Using the NVDA and control keys with up and down arrows just echoes the keys that have been pressed. While still in input mode, adding the shift key to the NVDA control and arrow keys describes changes to the synth ring-whatever that is LOL. Does this help?

Thank you,

Jan

-----Original Message-----
From: Jackie
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 10:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Changing speech rate on the fly not working.

Janet, this is just a suggestion, but I'm wondering if it might not be
more helpful--& more accurate--to simply access the NVDA menu, go to
help, then go to the "command quick reference guide". There, you can
find the keys, both for desktops & laptops, that will perform any
command NVDA has. This should contain the most up-to-date & accurate
information.

I think what Joseph is trying to tell you here is that the command you
tried to use is inaccurate--for the desktop, it's NVDA+ctrl+up or
down, w/the laptop you add the shift key.

HTH.

On 1/16/19, Janet Brandly <jbrandly@...> wrote:
Hi Joseph,
Wow, thanks for getting back to me so fast! Actually, I just googled it.
Jan


From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 10:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Changing speech rate on the fly not working.

Hi,

Huh? Where did you see that Control+NVDA+left and right arrow keys are used
to change rate on the fly?

To others: there is a specific reason why I’m doing it like this (will
explain soon).

Cheers,

Joseph



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet Brandly
Sent: Wednesday, January 16, 2019 8:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Changing speech rate on the fly not working.



Hello all,

I am using Windows 10 with the latest NVDA. When I try to change speech rate
on the fly using the NVDA control and either the left or right arrow keys
the rate does not change and NVDA says nothing. Has this command changed? If
so, what is it now?

Thanks,

Jan






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Re: Speech exception dictionary question

Jackie
 

It goes w/o saying, except perhaps it doesn't--but please back up your
dictionary files before porting them to a text editor. Hopefully
that'll preserve them in the event things go ape-haywire.

On 1/17/19, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@...> wrote:
Hi
In the example Ralph gives, the two zeroes at the end of the line relate to

Case sensitivity (0=Off, 1=On)
Type (0=Anywhere, 1=Regular Expression, 2=Whole word only)

If a word begins with a punctuation or special character, a backslash
should
preceed it for example:
\#7 Sharp Seven 0 0
Example of a regular expression type entry:
\bCo\.\s county 1 1

You will find the dictionary files in:
C:\Users\Username\AppData\Roaming\nvda\speechDicts\voiceDicts.v1

You will need to switch on "show hidden files" in Windows file options to
be
able to see these files.

Cheers
Chris
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ralf
Kefferpuetz
Sent: 17 January 2019 11:58
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Speech exception dictionary question

Both carry their entries in a text file.
In Window-wyes the format is:
Ttyl= talk to you later
In NVDA it would be
tyl talk to you later 0 0

You could do that manually or for example write a short autohotkey script
to
convert line by line.

Cheers,
Ralf
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeff Samco
Sent: Donnerstag, 17. Januar 2019 07:50
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Speech exception dictionary question

I'm just now switching from Window-Eyes to NVDA and liking it pretty well
thus far. I have hundreds of pronunciation
exceptions in the WE exception dictionary file. Is there a way of
transferring that information into NVDA?

Thanks,
Jeff











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Re: Speech exception dictionary question

 

If there's nothing private in the original poster's dictionary, and they're able to locate and send me the actual file that's got those entries, I can certainly take a look.

It is a straightforward process converting the stated Window Eyes format to the stated NVDA format.   It would be helpful to know where the NVDA format file needs to go afterward, what it must be named, and if there are any NVDA settings that need to be tweaked in order for NVDA to recognize it's presence.   I've set up dictionary entries for NVDA before, but via the native interface, so if other bits are being twiddled behind the scenes in addition to creating the file of entries I do not know what those are.
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Re: Speech exception dictionary question

Chris Mullins
 

Hi
In the example Ralph gives, the two zeroes at the end of the line relate to
Case sensitivity (0=Off, 1=On)
Type (0=Anywhere, 1=Regular Expression, 2=Whole word only)

If a word begins with a punctuation or special character, a backslash should
preceed it for example:
\#7 Sharp Seven 0 0
Example of a regular expression type entry:
\bCo\.\s county 1 1

You will find the dictionary files in:
C:\Users\Username\AppData\Roaming\nvda\speechDicts\voiceDicts.v1

You will need to switch on "show hidden files" in Windows file options to be
able to see these files.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ralf
Kefferpuetz
Sent: 17 January 2019 11:58
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Speech exception dictionary question

Both carry their entries in a text file.
In Window-wyes the format is:
Ttyl= talk to you later
In NVDA it would be
tyl talk to you later 0 0

You could do that manually or for example write a short autohotkey script to
convert line by line.

Cheers,
Ralf
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jeff Samco
Sent: Donnerstag, 17. Januar 2019 07:50
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Speech exception dictionary question

I'm just now switching from Window-Eyes to NVDA and liking it pretty well
thus far. I have hundreds of pronunciation
exceptions in the WE exception dictionary file. Is there a way of
transferring that information into NVDA?

Thanks,
Jeff