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Re: general announcement on windows 10 update and hp computers.

Brian's Mail list account
 

Yes well, I had a similar thing a while back on a laserprinter driver on windows 7 again an HP piece of hardware.
I just stopped it from installing as everything worked fine.
I have never seen it again.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 7:22 AM
Subject: [nvda] general announcement on windows 10 update and hp computers.


Hi.

I am not sure if this is multi os or not but maybe its only win10.

I got an update for hp hid devices today that I thought I allready installed.

The update will not install, and further more simply tries to install again and again.

I origionally thought that it was a bios issue and since there was an update for my new workstation I loaded it.

Its happening on my aunt's workstation.

Now looking at the software distribution folder its an update to the wireless button keyboard driver which isn't really important that it install.

Now since its happened on 2 hp units its probably a ms detection issue or a windows hardware bug the sysdev page doesn't show so who knows when I search for it so maybe its an issue that will be solved.

For now

https://support.microsoft.com/en-nz/help/4026726/windows-hide-windows-updates-or-driver-updates

This link has a troubleshooter that will hide or show updates and is a 45kb file, such a pitty this is not part of windows update anymore.

Anyway if You get drivers like this that just don't want to load you can hide them so they don't try to install.

And they can stay hidden to till you need to reinstall windows again.

Then you hide them again.

I'd usually complain to ms on this issue but its just not that important a driver.

Hp has the latest drivers which I have installed and all needs to be done is to have the effected thing hide so it doesn't install loop every update check.

I wouldn't take this approach with every update but for this one it works, also if an update breaks you can hide it if you want.

I wouldn't hide updates that are critical but this will solve it for us.

Now that update may appear again hopefully when ms fixes it later which they probably will do in the coming days.

I got this update earlier in the month and it came from last year at the end of it so who knows why its being stupid now.

I am sure its a detection issue, probably server side, and will be fixed sooner or later, there will not be any documented issue as with all driver updates unless its really so bad it needs it but there we go.




Re: audio recorder with screen reader accessibility:

Brian's Mail list account
 

Hi, if you cannot get to the web site due to your countries internet policy then try.
https://www.dropbox.com/s/ywjpc546r0qbr6p/Virtual_Recorder_Portable.zip?dl=1

This is the portable version
I have not tested it in xp though.
Brian


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----- Original Message -----
From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@...>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 5:51 AM
Subject: [nvda] audio recorder with screen reader accessibility:


hello every one.
i sent a comment previously which i mentioned i need one free and
accessible audio recorder which can records my voice and specially my
nvda voice, even if my system does not support stereo mix.
brian recommended me to use virtual recorder.
today, i wrote virtual recorder in google search and the only useful
link which i found is:
https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/topic/virtual_recorder/1883294

but i did not find the main website for this program, i mean the
website of producer and programmers of visual recorder to download it
directly.
i dont know how to use groups.io, so, i coppied the related link for
you to get help.
thanks again for all of your kindness and support, God bless you!

--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: going back on tech for the blind list

Brian's Mail list account
 

Because its moved to groups.io.
ahem...
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 3:45 AM
Subject: [nvda] going back on tech for the blind list


Hi, everyone,



How do I get back on tech for the blind email list? I tried the email
address and even wrote to the owner at that address but to no avail. I keep
getting undeliverable messages. Why is google doing this?



Thanks.



Rosemarie








Re: NVDA not giving accurate feedback

Brian's Mail list account
 

Ah, this sounds like our old friend lag again. I even see this on windows 7. I think its actually a lag in the info provided by windows, but of course it was massively affected by tweaking the processor speed on idle. I'm sure there is an article about his is there not.
If that is not the culprit then I agree, restarting nearly always puts things back as they were. If this behaviour is elsewhere though it may well be something else going on.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "MAX" <max@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 2:58 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA not giving accurate feedback


I’m having the same problem. If I am in a list of files nvda will read the file name below the cursor instead of the one it’s on. I had not made the connection between this behavior and the update but that is when it started.





73 (Regards).



Max K 4 O D S.



I've Never Lost the Wonder.



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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Greg Rhodes
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 8:45 PM
To: NVDA Users Group <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] NVDA not giving accurate feedback



I downloaded latest NVDA update yesterday. All of a sudden, NVDA is sometimes reading the letter before or after where my cursor is or the line before or after whee the cursor is. For example, my cursor may be on the line between two paragraphs, but NVDA will be reading the last line of the first paragraph. Do I need to uninstall and re-install NVDA? Can I do that without losing my current NVDA settings? Other possible solutions? Thanks



Greg


general announcement on windows 10 update and hp computers.

 

Hi.

I am not sure if this is multi os or not but maybe its only win10.

I got an update for hp hid devices today that I thought I allready installed.

The update will not install, and further more simply tries to install again and again.

I origionally thought that it was a bios issue and since there was an update for my new workstation I loaded it.

Its happening on my aunt's workstation.

Now looking at the software distribution folder its an update to the wireless button keyboard driver which isn't really important that it install.

Now since its happened on 2 hp units its probably a ms detection issue or a windows hardware bug the sysdev page doesn't show so who knows when I search for it so maybe its an issue that will be solved.

For now

https://support.microsoft.com/en-nz/help/4026726/windows-hide-windows-updates-or-driver-updates

This link has a troubleshooter that will hide or show updates and is a 45kb file, such a pitty this is not part of windows update anymore.

Anyway if You get drivers like this that just don't want to load you can hide them so they don't try to install.

And they can stay hidden to till you need to reinstall windows again.

Then you hide them again.

I'd usually complain to ms on this issue but its just not that important a driver.

Hp has the latest drivers which I have installed and all needs to be done is to have the effected thing hide so it doesn't install loop every update check.

I wouldn't take this approach with every update but for this one it works, also if an update breaks you can hide it if you want.

I wouldn't hide updates that are critical but this will solve it for us.

Now that update may appear again hopefully when ms fixes it later which they  probably will do in the coming days.

I got this update earlier in the month and it came from last year at the end of it so who knows why its being stupid now.

I am sure its a detection issue, probably server side, and will be fixed sooner or later, there will not be any documented issue as with all driver updates unless its really so bad it needs it but there we go.


Re: How do I get to a notification balloon that momentarily pops-up?

David Moore
 

Hi, if you are using Windows 10 when you hear the notification come up simply do the following colon hold down Windows key + shift + press v as in Victor and you will go to the notification and you can click on it or dismiss it David more


On Fri, Jan 18, 2019, 2:00 AM MohammadAfzal <counsellor.afzal@... wrote:
Hi Friends,

Sometimes, a notification balloon pops-up telling me about something on
my PC.  For a sighted person, they would click on the balloon and would
then be taken to the relevant thing.  In NVDA. how can I get to the
balloon notification to review it and activate (click on) it?

I am using Windows 10--

With Regards.

--
Mohammad Afzal Khan.
Mobile :91 - 9718806099
Skype : counsellor.afzal
Impossible is the means of I M Possible





Re: How do I get to a notification balloon that momentarily pops-up?

 

salam.
on windows xp, i press start button and press tab several times to go
to notifications.
not sure about windows ten, because i did not test it.

On 1/17/19, MohammadAfzal <counsellor.afzal@...> wrote:
Hi Friends,

Sometimes, a notification balloon pops-up telling me about something on
my PC.  For a sighted person, they would click on the balloon and would
then be taken to the relevant thing.  In NVDA. how can I get to the
balloon notification to review it and activate (click on) it?

I am using Windows 10--

With Regards.

--
Mohammad Afzal Khan.
Mobile :91 - 9718806099
Skype : counsellor.afzal
Impossible is the means of I M Possible




--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


How do I get to a notification balloon that momentarily pops-up?

MohammadAfzal
 

Hi Friends,

Sometimes, a notification balloon pops-up telling me about something on my PC.  For a sighted person, they would click on the balloon and would then be taken to the relevant thing.  In NVDA. how can I get to the balloon notification to review it and activate (click on) it?

I am using Windows 10--

With Regards.

--
Mohammad Afzal Khan.
Mobile :91 - 9718806099
Skype : counsellor.afzal
Impossible is the means of I M Possible


Re: audio recorder with screen reader accessibility:

Ron Canazzi
 

Here's the website for the Virtual Recorder created by the late Great Carlos Nazario.



http://saomaicenter.org/index.php/en/downloads/media/virtual-recorder

On 1/18/2019 12:51 AM, zahra wrote:
hello every one.
i sent a comment previously which i mentioned i need one free and
accessible audio recorder which can records my voice and specially my
nvda voice, even if my system does not support stereo mix.
brian recommended me to use virtual recorder.
today, i wrote virtual recorder in google search and the only useful
link which i found is:
https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/topic/virtual_recorder/1883294

but i did not find the main website for this program, i mean the
website of producer and programmers of visual recorder to download it
directly.
i dont know how to use groups.io, so, i coppied the related link for
you to get help.
thanks again for all of your kindness and support, God bless you!
--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: Norwegian 8 dot braille table used by nvda

Quentin Christensen
 


I simply suggested swapping to the new Braille table, but please advise if Joseph's second option of merging the two tables has merit.



On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 4:54 PM Joseph Lee <joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:
Hi,
Ah, this is similar to Unified English Braille table migration a few years
back.
There are two options I can think of:
1. Replace the old one with the new table (the original suggestion).
2. Combine the tables together somehow - that is, merge the old table into
the new one, keeping the file name the same.

Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lars Bjørndal
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 9:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Norwegian 8 dot braille table used by nvda

Hi, Quentin!

You wrote:

> Just out of curiosity, why ARE there two Norwegian 8 dot Braille
> tables in LibLouis in the first place?  Or have I misread the thread?
> (I was going to create the GitHub issue that Joseph suggested, but
> wanted to be sure I understood the issue first)

The no-no-comp8.ctb, which are used by NVDA today, was created based on the
old ANSI character set, and so it lacks many unicode characters, although
some very widly used was added after NVDA started to use the table. When the
Norwegian library for braille and audio did a big job with all Norwegian
tables, they created a table with lots of additions to the computer braille,
and put that stuf in a separate file called no-no-8dot.utb.

Thanks a lot for creating the issue.

Lars

> On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 2:25 AM Joseph Lee
> <[1]joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:
>
>   Hi,
>   Okay, the next step is asking NVDA people to implement needed
>   changes via a
>   new GitHub issue.
>   Cheers,
>   Joseph
>   -----Original Message-----
>   From: [2]nvda@nvda.groups.io <[3]nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of
>   Lars Bjørndal
>   Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 4:08 AM
>   To: [4]nvda@nvda.groups.io
>   Subject: Re: [nvda] Norwegian 8 dot braille table used by nvda
>   Hello,
>   I've now talked to the liblouis team about the change I suggest.
>   You'll find
>   my post here:
>   <[5]https://www.freelists.org/post/liblouis-liblouisxml/Switch-Norwe
>   gian-braill
>   e-table-in-NVDA>
>   Please tell me if I have to do anything more to get the new braille
>   table
>   implemented.
>   Thanks in advance
>   Lars
>   On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 09:54:37AM +0100, Lars Bjørndal wrote:
>   > Hi, Joseph!
>   >
>   > Thank you for your quick reply!
>   >
>   > You wrote:
>   >
>   > > Does the proposed table have issues of its own? If there are
>   more issues
>   with the proposed braille table than the one NVDA uses now, I'm
>   afraid we
>   may need to use the current table.
>   >
>   > The table that we want to use, includes the table currently in
>   use, and
>   the «new» table has extra definitions. I've tested the table, and I
>   don't
>   see any issue.
>   >
>   > > The hex value indicates unassigned character/braille dot
>   patterns.
>   >
>   > Yes, that's right. And there is lot of undefined chars in the
>   currently
>   used table.
>   >
>   > > I advise alerting Liblouis people about this.
>   >
>   > I'm actively contributing to liblouis. I'm very certain that
>   nobody will
>   disagree to this change.
>   >
>   > Thanks in advance - Lars
>   >
>   > > -----Original Message-----
>   > > From: [6]nvda@nvda.groups.io <[7]nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf
>   Of Lars
>   > > Bjørndal
>   > > Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2019 12:12 PM
>   > > To: [8]nvda@nvda.groups.io
>   > > Subject: [nvda] Norwegian 8 dot braille table used by nvda
>   > >
>   > > Hello, list!
>   > >
>   > > For a long time there has been trouble with the Norwegian 8 dot
>   computer
>   braill table used by nvda:
>   > >
>   > > - Bullets and othe characters are represented by the typical
>   \xxxxx
>   > >   garbage.
>   > >
>   > > In liblouis there is a corresponding table which is an extended
>   version
>   of the table that are used currently.
>   > >
>   > > Could you please use the table no-no-8dot.utb instead of
>   no-no-comp8.ctb?
>   > >
>   > > I think the change is as simple as replacing the line:
>   > >
>   > > addTable("no-no-comp8.ctb", _("Norwegian 8 dot computer
>   braille"))
>   > >
>   > > with:
>   > >
>   > > addTable("no-no-8dot.utb", _("Norwegian 8 dot computer
>   braille"))
>   > >
>   > > in the file brailleTables.py in the source directory.
>   > >
>   > > Thanks in advance - Lars
>   > >
>   > >
>   > >
>   > >
>   > >
>   > >
>   >
>   >
>   >
>
> --
>
> Quentin Christensen
> Training and Support Manager
> Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:
> [9]http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ [10]www.nvaccess.org
> Facebook: [11]http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
> Twitter: @NVAccess
>
>
>
> References
>
> 1. mailto:joseph.lee22590@...
> 2. mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io
> 3. mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io
> 4. mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io
> 5.
> https://www.freelists.org/post/liblouis-liblouisxml/Switch-Norwegian-b
> raille-table-in-NVDA
> 6. mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io
> 7. mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io
> 8. mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io
> 9. http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
>   10. http://www.nvaccess.org/
>   11. http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
>   12. https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/message/54081
>   13. mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io?subject=Re: Re: [nvda] Norwegian 8 dot
braille table used by nvda
>   14. mailto:quentin@...?subject=Private: Re: Re: [nvda]
Norwegian 8 dot braille table used by nvda
>   15. https://groups.io/mt/28955974/1633232
>   16. https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/post
>   17. http://www.nvaccess.org/
>   18. http://www.nvaccess.org/donate
>   19. http://addons.nvda-project.org/
>   20. http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=8601265515
>   21. http://skypetalking.googlecode.com/
>   22. https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/editsub/1633232
>   23. mailto:nvda+owner@nvda.groups.io
>   24. https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/leave/defanged








--
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Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: audio recorder with screen reader accessibility:

Gene
 

Download it from this site:
 
There are two versions, a portable and an installed version. Carlos, who ran another list and died a little over a year ago, and who contributed in important ways to the blind community, made the program either accessible or far more than it was.  Obviously, these are Carlos' versions.
 
Gene 

----- Original message -----
From: zahra
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 11:51 PM
Subject: [nvda] audio recorder with screen reader accessibility:

hello every one.
i sent a comment previously which i mentioned i need one free and
accessible audio recorder which can records my voice and specially my
nvda voice, even if my system does not support stereo mix.
brian recommended me to use virtual recorder.
today, i wrote virtual recorder in google search and the only useful
link which i found is:
https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/topic/virtual_recorder/1883294

but i did not find the main website for this program, i mean the
website of producer and programmers of visual recorder to download it
directly.
i dont know how to use groups.io, so, i coppied the related link for
you to get help.
thanks again for all of your kindness and support, God bless you!

--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali



Re: Norwegian 8 dot braille table used by nvda

 

Hi,
Ah, this is similar to Unified English Braille table migration a few years
back.
There are two options I can think of:
1. Replace the old one with the new table (the original suggestion).
2. Combine the tables together somehow - that is, merge the old table into
the new one, keeping the file name the same.

Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Lars Bjørndal
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 9:35 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Norwegian 8 dot braille table used by nvda

Hi, Quentin!

You wrote:

Just out of curiosity, why ARE there two Norwegian 8 dot Braille
tables in LibLouis in the first place? Or have I misread the thread?
(I was going to create the GitHub issue that Joseph suggested, but
wanted to be sure I understood the issue first)
The no-no-comp8.ctb, which are used by NVDA today, was created based on the
old ANSI character set, and so it lacks many unicode characters, although
some very widly used was added after NVDA started to use the table. When the
Norwegian library for braille and audio did a big job with all Norwegian
tables, they created a table with lots of additions to the computer braille,
and put that stuf in a separate file called no-no-8dot.utb.

Thanks a lot for creating the issue.

Lars

On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 2:25 AM Joseph Lee
<[1]joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,
Okay, the next step is asking NVDA people to implement needed
changes via a
new GitHub issue.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: [2]nvda@nvda.groups.io <[3]nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Lars Bjørndal
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 4:08 AM
To: [4]nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Norwegian 8 dot braille table used by nvda
Hello,
I've now talked to the liblouis team about the change I suggest.
You'll find
my post here:
<[5]https://www.freelists.org/post/liblouis-liblouisxml/Switch-Norwe
gian-braill
e-table-in-NVDA>
Please tell me if I have to do anything more to get the new braille
table
implemented.
Thanks in advance
Lars
On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 09:54:37AM +0100, Lars Bjørndal wrote:
> Hi, Joseph!
>
> Thank you for your quick reply!
>
> You wrote:
>
> > Does the proposed table have issues of its own? If there are
more issues
with the proposed braille table than the one NVDA uses now, I'm
afraid we
may need to use the current table.
>
> The table that we want to use, includes the table currently in
use, and
the «new» table has extra definitions. I've tested the table, and I
don't
see any issue.
>
> > The hex value indicates unassigned character/braille dot
patterns.
>
> Yes, that's right. And there is lot of undefined chars in the
currently
used table.
>
> > I advise alerting Liblouis people about this.
>
> I'm actively contributing to liblouis. I'm very certain that
nobody will
disagree to this change.
>
> Thanks in advance - Lars
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [6]nvda@nvda.groups.io <[7]nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf
Of Lars
> > Bjørndal
> > Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2019 12:12 PM
> > To: [8]nvda@nvda.groups.io
> > Subject: [nvda] Norwegian 8 dot braille table used by nvda
> >
> > Hello, list!
> >
> > For a long time there has been trouble with the Norwegian 8 dot
computer
braill table used by nvda:
> >
> > - Bullets and othe characters are represented by the typical
\xxxxx
> > garbage.
> >
> > In liblouis there is a corresponding table which is an extended
version
of the table that are used currently.
> >
> > Could you please use the table no-no-8dot.utb instead of
no-no-comp8.ctb?
> >
> > I think the change is as simple as replacing the line:
> >
> > addTable("no-no-comp8.ctb", _("Norwegian 8 dot computer
braille"))
> >
> > with:
> >
> > addTable("no-no-8dot.utb", _("Norwegian 8 dot computer
braille"))
> >
> > in the file brailleTables.py in the source directory.
> >
> > Thanks in advance - Lars
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager
Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:
[9]http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ [10]www.nvaccess.org
Facebook: [11]http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess



References

1. mailto:joseph.lee22590@...
2. mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io
3. mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io
4. mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io
5.
https://www.freelists.org/post/liblouis-liblouisxml/Switch-Norwegian-b
raille-table-in-NVDA
6. mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io
7. mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io
8. mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io
9. http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
10. http://www.nvaccess.org/
11. http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
12. https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/message/54081
13. mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io?subject=Re: Re: [nvda] Norwegian 8 dot
braille table used by nvda
14. mailto:quentin@...?subject=Private: Re: Re: [nvda]
Norwegian 8 dot braille table used by nvda
15. https://groups.io/mt/28955974/1633232
16. https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/post
17. http://www.nvaccess.org/
18. http://www.nvaccess.org/donate
19. http://addons.nvda-project.org/
20. http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=8601265515
21. http://skypetalking.googlecode.com/
22. https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/editsub/1633232
23. mailto:nvda+owner@nvda.groups.io
24. https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/leave/defanged


audio recorder with screen reader accessibility:

 

hello every one.
i sent a comment previously which i mentioned i need one free and
accessible audio recorder which can records my voice and specially my
nvda voice, even if my system does not support stereo mix.
brian recommended me to use virtual recorder.
today, i wrote virtual recorder in google search and the only useful
link which i found is:
https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/topic/virtual_recorder/1883294

but i did not find the main website for this program, i mean the
website of producer and programmers of visual recorder to download it
directly.
i dont know how to use groups.io, so, i coppied the related link for
you to get help.
thanks again for all of your kindness and support, God bless you!

--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Re: Norwegian 8 dot braille table used by nvda

Lars Bjørndal <lars@...>
 

Hi, Quentin!

You wrote:

Just out of curiosity, why ARE there two Norwegian 8 dot Braille tables
in LibLouis in the first place? Or have I misread the thread?
(I was going to create the GitHub issue that Joseph suggested, but
wanted to be sure I understood the issue first)
The no-no-comp8.ctb, which are used by NVDA today, was created based on the old ANSI character set, and so it lacks many unicode characters, although some very widly used was added after NVDA started to use the table. When the Norwegian library for braille and audio did a big job with all Norwegian tables, they created a table with lots of additions to the computer braille, and put that stuf in a separate file called no-no-8dot.utb.

Thanks a lot for creating the issue.

Lars

On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 2:25 AM Joseph Lee
<[1]joseph.lee22590@...> wrote:

Hi,
Okay, the next step is asking NVDA people to implement needed
changes via a
new GitHub issue.
Cheers,
Joseph
-----Original Message-----
From: [2]nvda@nvda.groups.io <[3]nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of
Lars Bjørndal
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 4:08 AM
To: [4]nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Norwegian 8 dot braille table used by nvda
Hello,
I've now talked to the liblouis team about the change I suggest.
You'll find
my post here:
<[5]https://www.freelists.org/post/liblouis-liblouisxml/Switch-Norwe
gian-braill
e-table-in-NVDA>
Please tell me if I have to do anything more to get the new braille
table
implemented.
Thanks in advance
Lars
On Mon, Jan 07, 2019 at 09:54:37AM +0100, Lars Bjørndal wrote:
> Hi, Joseph!
>
> Thank you for your quick reply!
>
> You wrote:
>
> > Does the proposed table have issues of its own? If there are
more issues
with the proposed braille table than the one NVDA uses now, I'm
afraid we
may need to use the current table.
>
> The table that we want to use, includes the table currently in
use, and
the «new» table has extra definitions. I've tested the table, and I
don't
see any issue.
>
> > The hex value indicates unassigned character/braille dot
patterns.
>
> Yes, that's right. And there is lot of undefined chars in the
currently
used table.
>
> > I advise alerting Liblouis people about this.
>
> I'm actively contributing to liblouis. I'm very certain that
nobody will
disagree to this change.
>
> Thanks in advance - Lars
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: [6]nvda@nvda.groups.io <[7]nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf
Of Lars
> > Bjørndal
> > Sent: Sunday, January 6, 2019 12:12 PM
> > To: [8]nvda@nvda.groups.io
> > Subject: [nvda] Norwegian 8 dot braille table used by nvda
> >
> > Hello, list!
> >
> > For a long time there has been trouble with the Norwegian 8 dot
computer
braill table used by nvda:
> >
> > - Bullets and othe characters are represented by the typical
\xxxxx
> > garbage.
> >
> > In liblouis there is a corresponding table which is an extended
version
of the table that are used currently.
> >
> > Could you please use the table no-no-8dot.utb instead of
no-no-comp8.ctb?
> >
> > I think the change is as simple as replacing the line:
> >
> > addTable("no-no-comp8.ctb", _("Norwegian 8 dot computer
braille"))
> >
> > with:
> >
> > addTable("no-no-8dot.utb", _("Norwegian 8 dot computer
braille"))
> >
> > in the file brailleTables.py in the source directory.
> >
> > Thanks in advance - Lars
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
>
>
>

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References

1. mailto:joseph.lee22590@...
2. mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io
3. mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io
4. mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io
5. https://www.freelists.org/post/liblouis-liblouisxml/Switch-Norwegian-braille-table-in-NVDA
6. mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io
7. mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io
8. mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io
9. http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
10. http://www.nvaccess.org/
11. http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
12. https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/message/54081
13. mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io?subject=Re: Re: [nvda] Norwegian 8 dot braille table used by nvda
14. mailto:quentin@...?subject=Private: Re: Re: [nvda] Norwegian 8 dot braille table used by nvda
15. https://groups.io/mt/28955974/1633232
16. https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/post
17. http://www.nvaccess.org/
18. http://www.nvaccess.org/donate
19. http://addons.nvda-project.org/
20. http://www.facebook.com/group.php?gid=8601265515
21. http://skypetalking.googlecode.com/
22. https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/editsub/1633232
23. mailto:nvda+owner@nvda.groups.io
24. https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/leave/defanged


Re: going back on tech for the blind list

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I got the address now. Thanks.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 8:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] going back on tech for the blind list

 

I was invited. I will check the email I have and see what is available.

***
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the world says, hey come with me. My way is broad and easy. So what if you get crap on your shoes. You can always wash it off, can't you!
****

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 8:45 PM

Subject: [nvda] going back on tech for the blind list

 

Hi, everyone,

 

How do I get back on tech for the blind email list? I tried the email address and even wrote to the owner at that address but to no avail. I keep getting undeliverable messages. Why is google doing this?

 

Thanks.

 

Rosemarie

 

 


Re: going back on tech for the blind list

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

I was invited. I will check the email I have and see what is available.
***
Jesus says, follow me and I'll help you through the rough spots.
the world says, hey come with me. My way is broad and easy. So what if you get crap on your shoes. You can always wash it off, can't you!
****

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 8:45 PM
Subject: [nvda] going back on tech for the blind list

Hi, everyone,

 

How do I get back on tech for the blind email list? I tried the email address and even wrote to the owner at that address but to no avail. I keep getting undeliverable messages. Why is google doing this?

 

Thanks.

 

Rosemarie

 

 


Re: NVDA not giving accurate feedback

Gene
 

Make sure you are in object navigation.  I don't know if there is any connection between the problem and the update but if the update is changing your setting from object navigation to screen navigation, you will have problems like what you are describing and maybe what is being described in the first message.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: MAX
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 8:58 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA not giving accurate feedback

I’m having the same problem.  If I am in a list of files nvda will read the file name below the cursor instead of the one it’s on.  I had not made the connection between this behavior and the update but that is when it started.

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Greg Rhodes
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 8:45 PM
To: NVDA Users Group <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] NVDA not giving accurate feedback

 

I downloaded latest NVDA update yesterday. All of a sudden, NVDA is sometimes reading the letter before or after where my cursor is or the line before or after whee the cursor is. For example, my cursor may be on the line between two paragraphs, but NVDA will be reading the last line of the first paragraph. Do I need to uninstall and re-install NVDA? Can I do that without losing my current NVDA settings? Other possible solutions? Thanks

 

Greg

 


going back on tech for the blind list

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, everyone,

 

How do I get back on tech for the blind email list? I tried the email address and even wrote to the owner at that address but to no avail. I keep getting undeliverable messages. Why is google doing this?

 

Thanks.

 

Rosemarie

 

 


Re: NVDA not giving accurate feedback

MAX <max@...>
 

I’m having the same problem.  If I am in a list of files nvda will read the file name below the cursor instead of the one it’s on.  I had not made the connection between this behavior and the update but that is when it started.

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Greg Rhodes
Sent: Thursday, January 17, 2019 8:45 PM
To: NVDA Users Group <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] NVDA not giving accurate feedback

 

I downloaded latest NVDA update yesterday. All of a sudden, NVDA is sometimes reading the letter before or after where my cursor is or the line before or after whee the cursor is. For example, my cursor may be on the line between two paragraphs, but NVDA will be reading the last line of the first paragraph. Do I need to uninstall and re-install NVDA? Can I do that without losing my current NVDA settings? Other possible solutions? Thanks

 

Greg

 


Re: NVDA not giving accurate feedback

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Greg,

Firstly, have you restarted the computer since you updated? That's the first thing to do if you haven't already.  99% of the time that will resolve these kind of random issues.

If it's still happening, does it happen everywhere, or in particular programs or situations?  Restarting NVDA with add-ons disabled is worth trying, and after all that, if you send me a copy of your log to info@... I can have a look and see if I can find anything there.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Jan 18, 2019 at 1:44 PM Greg Rhodes <gkrhodes@...> wrote:

I downloaded latest NVDA update yesterday. All of a sudden, NVDA is sometimes reading the letter before or after where my cursor is or the line before or after whee the cursor is. For example, my cursor may be on the line between two paragraphs, but NVDA will be reading the last line of the first paragraph. Do I need to uninstall and re-install NVDA? Can I do that without losing my current NVDA settings? Other possible solutions? Thanks

 

Greg

 



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Training and Support Manager

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