Hi,
I have yet to encounter a single case where screen review interferes
destructively with the arrow keys. If anyone can explain it in simple
terms I'd be grateful.
The Basic Training For NVDA ebook, available from NVAccess, explains
object navigation in a way most users should be able to follow.
Generally speaking, this book is a very good investment for anyone
using NVDA as their primary screen reader.
Best,
Felix

Am Sa., 19. Jan. 2019 um 09:27 Uhr schrieb zahra <nasrinkhaksar3@...>:

yes, i am sure that i always use screen review, using object
navigation is not easy for me and i could not understand it until now.

On 1/18/19, marcio via Groups.Io <marcinhorj21@...> wrote:

Are you sure you're on screen review mode?
If I have this enabled I simply can't read the screen properly. It just
keeps jumping around the screen and happily landing on where it thinks
it's nice to.

Cheers,
Marcio
Follow me on Twitter <https://twitter.com/firirinfonfon>

Em 19/01/2019 01:46, zahra escreveu:

hi gene.
i did not know remaining on screen review may causes problems.
i am always on screen review and dont have any problem on it.
nvda reads all items of desktop for me!
or i press my desired item first letter and go to it directly.
can you please explane more?
thanks for any help, God bless you!

On 1/18/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

I should also ask whether you are using the laptop or desktop layout.
The
commands to change these modes are different.  NVDA v has nothing to do
with
this.  it is a browse mode option.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Cohn, Jonathan
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 8:53 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA not giving accurate feedback


Is there a good discussion between the difference of screen navigation
and
object navigation? Is this what nvda-V toggles? There are vvsome parts
of
NVDA that I just try different options until one works and I have not
learned a consistent efficient way to use. That being said, NVDA now and
for
the foreseeable  future for me will be the least used of the screen
readers
I use on a daily basis.



Thanks,



Jonathan

--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali

yes, i am sure that i always use screen review, using object
navigation is not easy for me and i could not understand it until now.

On 1/18/19, marcio via Groups.Io <marcinhorj21=yahoo.com.br@groups.io> wrote:

Are you sure you're on screen review mode?
If I have this enabled I simply can't read the screen properly. It just
keeps jumping around the screen and happily landing on where it thinks
it's nice to.

Cheers,
Marcio
Follow me on Twitter <https://twitter.com/firirinfonfon>

Em 19/01/2019 01:46, zahra escreveu:

hi gene.
i did not know remaining on screen review may causes problems.
i am always on screen review and dont have any problem on it.
nvda reads all items of desktop for me!
or i press my desired item first letter and go to it directly.
can you please explane more?
thanks for any help, God bless you!

On 1/18/19, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:

I should also ask whether you are using the laptop or desktop layout.
The
commands to change these modes are different. NVDA v has nothing to do
with
this. it is a browse mode option.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Cohn, Jonathan
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 8:53 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA not giving accurate feedback


Is there a good discussion between the difference of screen navigation
and
object navigation? Is this what nvda-V toggles? There are vvsome parts
of
NVDA that I just try different options until one works and I have not
learned a consistent efficient way to use. That being said, NVDA now and
for
the foreseeable future for me will be the least used of the screen
readers
I use on a daily basis.



Thanks,



Jonathan

--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali



unfortunately NVDA is switching languages and I cannot understand what you wrote.

***
Jesus says, follow me and I'll help you through the rough spots.
the world says, hey come with me. My way is broad and easy. So what if you get crap on your shoes. You can always wash it off, can't you!
****

----- Original Message -----

From: Gerardo Corripio

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 8:26 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] BARD Express

Yes fix this issue! It’s annoying having to always invoke the Go to Details command in Bard Express! If the issue werefixed, it’d make thebrowsing of Bard Express somuchefficient!

 

                                                                                              Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10

 

De: Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Enviado: jueves, 17 de enero de 2019 04:51 a. m.
Para: NVDA
Asunto: [nvda] BARD Express

 

has there been any consideration to fix NVDA to read the entire annotation when searching for books in BARD express? Currantly it only reads the title, author and a fraction of the annotation then jumps to the narrator.

***
Jesus says, follow me and I'll help you through the rough spots.
the world says, hey come with me. My way is broad and easy. So what if you get crap on your shoes. You can always wash it off, can't you!
****

 

Good Afternoon:  I was working with a computer that did not have a SSD in it a year ago.  My experience was I had to wait between letters when write a message in an email message.  When reading anything my wait time between words was as much as 5 to 10 seconds between words.  In that years’ time you have seen a lot difference.  I am using nvda in my computer.  My sighted son could even see one to seconds between words when reading anything, no matter how much memory the program took up.  You can go

That is a general statement and is not correct if you run a synthesizer that is not computer intensive.  I do not know how much more work it is to run an intensive synthesizer but because of slower response time while working with one, many blind people run a very responsive synthesizer such as Eloquence for actual working with the computer.  They use one of the newer more intensive synthesizers for listening to things where they will be just listening such as reading a book. 

 

A screen-reader when used with a synthesizer like Eloquence is not intensive.  I do not know whether an SSD increases responsiveness of the newer kind of synthesizer but my point is that you need not buy a much more expensive machine to use a screen-reader as I have described.  If you do, and if you benefit from doing so when you use a more intensive synthesizer for everything, you then have to consider the extra money you spent on the computer as part of the cost of the synthesizer and it may be unreasonable.  I am also not saying that getting a really fast computer would make newer synthesizers more responsive, I do not know.  I am talking about cost/benefit.

 

Gene

From: Brian K. Lingard

Sent: Friday, January 11, 2019 5:19 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Minimum Specs for NVDA with Other Intensive Applications

 

Dear Noah & List:

Running a screenreader adds a fair bit of work to a PC as you have a software synthesizer. You could offload the work of speaking by using a hardware synthesizer such as a Doubletalk or Triple talk. Your laptop needs SSD not a mechanical hard disk with 8, 16 or 32 GB RAM. 32 GB is best if you plan to do video and/or audio editing & recording. The PC at your school may have as little as one GB RAM and a slow CPU. Giving the laptop adequate RAM ids, more important that high-performance CPU. Look for a laptop with a fast, but not necessarily Intel I8 speed. An Intel I5 or six CPU should work fine. You consume CPU cycles a lot if you do sound or video editing, recalculate mammoth spreadsheets and run many programs concurrently.
Web browsing is light work for a PC.
Download the Belarc Advisor from HTTPS://www.belarc.com. Run it on the problem computers at school. Lists the CPU chip, installed RAM, software licenses, everything worth knowing about the PC. Also gives information on the SSD or Hard Disk. Program is free for personal use.
Brian K. Lingard

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf of Noah Carver via Groups.Io
Sent: January 10, 2019 6:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Minimum Specs for NVDA with Other Intensive Applications

Hi All,
I will need to get a laptop for school; however, the school machines cannot run NVDA plus Chrome and Word all at the same time without lagging.
What I need is a powerful machine that can handle email, office, and web Browsing, ETC. without wimping out on me while I am trying to do work. Do you have any recommendations for specs or any particular laptops that you might recommend?

Thanks,

Noah

----- Original Message -----

From: Gerardo Corripio

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 8:26 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] BARD Express

Yes fix this issue! It’s annoying having to always invoke the Go to Details command in Bard Express! If the issue werefixed, it’d make thebrowsing of Bard Express somuchefficient!

 

                                                                                              Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10

 

De: Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Enviado: jueves, 17 de enero de 2019 04:51 a. m.
Para: NVDA
Asunto: [nvda] BARD Express

 

has there been any consideration to fix NVDA to read the entire annotation when searching for books in BARD express? Currantly it only reads the title, author and a fraction of the annotation then jumps to the narrator.

***
Jesus says, follow me and I'll help you through the rough spots.
the world says, hey come with me. My way is broad and easy. So what if you get crap on your shoes. You can always wash it off, can't you!
****

 

Are you sure you're on screen review mode?
If I have this enabled I simply can't read the screen properly. It just
keeps jumping around the screen and happily landing on where it thinks
it's nice to.

Cheers,
Marcio
Follow me on Twitter <https://twitter.com/firirinfonfon>

Em 19/01/2019 01:46, zahra escreveu:

hi gene.
i did not know remaining on screen review may causes problems.
i am always on screen review and dont have any problem on it.
nvda reads all items of desktop for me!
or i press my desired item first letter and go to it directly.
can you please explane more?
thanks for any help, God bless you!

On 1/18/19, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:

I should also ask whether you are using the laptop or desktop layout.
The
commands to change these modes are different. NVDA v has nothing to do
with
this. it is a browse mode option.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Cohn, Jonathan
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 8:53 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA not giving accurate feedback


Is there a good discussion between the difference of screen navigation
and
object navigation? Is this what nvda-V toggles? There are vvsome parts
of
NVDA that I just try different options until one works and I have not
learned a consistent efficient way to use. That being said, NVDA now and
for
the foreseeable future for me will be the least used of the screen
readers
I use on a daily basis.



Thanks,



Jonathan

Using Firefox, I'm on a website with a form. In the part where I'm
supposed to fill in my birth date, there's something like an edit box,
that appears to have a selection list accompanying it. When NVDA
encounters the edit box, it just says "read only" which presumably
means I can't type into it. But further down, or when I press tab,
NVDA says "list" so I should be able to select from a list. But that's
all it says: "list" and nothing more. There's no speaking of items in
the list from which I could select. All three fields for month, day
and year are like this. How do I accomplish this?

Yes well, I had a similar thing a while back on a laserprinter driver on windows 7 again an HP piece of hardware.
I just stopped it from installing as everything worked fine.
I have never seen it again.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 7:22 AM
Subject: [nvda] general announcement on windows 10 update and hp computers.

Hi.

I am not sure if this is multi os or not but maybe its only win10.

I got an update for hp hid devices today that I thought I allready installed.

The update will not install, and further more simply tries to install again and again.

I origionally thought that it was a bios issue and since there was an update for my new workstation I loaded it.

Its happening on my aunt's workstation.

Now looking at the software distribution folder its an update to the wireless button keyboard driver which isn't really important that it install.

Now since its happened on 2 hp units its probably a ms detection issue or a windows hardware bug the sysdev page doesn't show so who knows when I search for it so maybe its an issue that will be solved.

For now

https://support.microsoft.com/en-nz/help/4026726/windows-hide-windows-updates-or-driver-updates

This link has a troubleshooter that will hide or show updates and is a 45kb file, such a pitty this is not part of windows update anymore.

Anyway if You get drivers like this that just don't want to load you can hide them so they don't try to install.

And they can stay hidden to till you need to reinstall windows again.

Then you hide them again.

I'd usually complain to ms on this issue but its just not that important a driver.

Hp has the latest drivers which I have installed and all needs to be done is to have the effected thing hide so it doesn't install loop every update check.

I wouldn't take this approach with every update but for this one it works, also if an update breaks you can hide it if you want.

I wouldn't hide updates that are critical but this will solve it for us.

Now that update may appear again hopefully when ms fixes it later which they probably will do in the coming days.

I got this update earlier in the month and it came from last year at the end of it so who knows why its being stupid now.

I am sure its a detection issue, probably server side, and will be fixed sooner or later, there will not be any documented issue as with all driver updates unless its really so bad it needs it but there we go.

HHii, I know the alt+space menu, and also the double click on the title of the window to restore its size and positionn,
but the maximization occurs when I launch an app (e.g. notepad) and also when I switch from a window to another usint alt+tab.
Regards,

Le 19 janv. 2019 04:42, "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@...> a écrit :

hi.
just press alt space and go down and set your desired settings.
god bless you all!

On 1/18/19, Sylvain Machefert <iubito@...> wrote:
> I don't remember having installed addons, I'll check that in a few days.
>
> Sylvain
>
> Le 18 janv. 2019 19:44, "Chris via Groups.Io" <chrismedley=
> btinternet.com@groups.io> a écrit :
>
> I guess you installed the nvda global addon recently
>
>
>
>
>

> *From: *Sylvain Machefert <iubito@...>
> *Sent: *18 January 2019 18:21
> *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io
> *Subject: *[nvda] All windows are full screen

>
>
>
> Hi NVDA group,
>
> I can't find the setting to disable this behaviour.
> After opening any window (notepad, task manager, 7-zip...), a few seconds
> after the windiws is fullscreened (maximized).
>
> If I close NVDA this behaviour disappear, so it seems it comes from it.
> As you can imagine, it annoyes me and I'd like to disable this.
> How to disable full screen ?
>
> Many thanks in advance
>
> --
> Sylvain Machefert
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali

Dear all,

 

2019 has started and the time for organizing the NVDACon has come. We had an unforgetable NVDACon last year with an average of more than 50 attendees. But we do not want to stop here. We want the community to grow and to develop further, contributing together to such a big and meaningful project like NVDA. So I call with this message anyone who has time and wigh to be a part of this big event. If you want to be part of the organizing team and help us make NVDACon a legendary conference every year, please do not hesitate to contact us. We are looking for new people intersted to participate in the organization of NVDACon 2019 and beyond. You can either answer to this treat or contact us privately. We will reply as fast as possible.

 

Thank you for being part of this task force and hopefully we see each other at the organizing sessions.

 

And please please promote NVDACon in your communities. This is a huge chance for everyone to express his or her suggestions / pains and problems and to start cooperations. Do not miss this oportunity.

 

 

Best regards

Adriani

hi gene.
i did not know remaining on screen review may causes problems.
i am always on screen review and dont have any problem on it.
nvda reads all items of desktop for me!
or i press my desired item first letter and go to it directly.
can you please explane more?
thanks for any help, God bless you!

On 1/18/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

I should also ask whether you are using the laptop or desktop layout.  The
commands to change these modes are different.  NVDA v has nothing to do with
this.  it is a browse mode option.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Cohn, Jonathan
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 8:53 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA not giving accurate feedback


Is there a good discussion between the difference of screen navigation and
object navigation? Is this what nvda-V toggles? There are vvsome parts of
NVDA that I just try different options until one works and I have not
learned a consistent efficient way to use. That being said, NVDA now and for
the foreseeable  future for me will be the least used of the screen readers
I use on a daily basis.



Thanks,



Jonathan

I should also ask whether you are using the laptop or desktop layout. The
commands to change these modes are different. NVDA v has nothing to do with
this. it is a browse mode option.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Cohn, Jonathan
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 8:53 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA not giving accurate feedback


Is there a good discussion between the difference of screen navigation and
object navigation? Is this what nvda-V toggles? There are vvsome parts of
NVDA that I just try different options until one works and I have not
learned a consistent efficient way to use. That being said, NVDA now and for
the foreseeable future for me will be the least used of the screen readers
I use on a daily basis.



Thanks,



Jonathan

I don't remember having installed addons, I'll check that in a few days.

Sylvain

Le 18 janv. 2019 19:44, "Chris via Groups.Io" <chrismedley=
btinternet.com@groups.io> a écrit :

I guess you installed the nvda global addon recently





*From: *Sylvain Machefert <iubito@gmail.com>
*Sent: *18 January 2019 18:21
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject: *[nvda] All windows are full screen



Hi NVDA group,

I can't find the setting to disable this behaviour.
After opening any window (notepad, task manager, 7-zip...), a few seconds
after the windiws is fullscreened (maximized).

If I close NVDA this behaviour disappear, so it seems it comes from it.
As you can imagine, it annoyes me and I'd like to disable this.
How to disable full screen ?

Many thanks in advance

--
Sylvain Machefert

Coke Free MP3 recorder? MMMM now I want a coke LOL! But in
all seriousness Aaron how accessible is this? Get back to me privately at:

Lino.jr@ttwc.com<mailto:Lino.jr@ttwc.com>

BTW, I’m using WIN 10. Is it accessible with that?



Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
10



________________________________
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of valiant8086
<valiant8086@gmail.com>
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 4:47:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io; nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] audio recorder with screen reader accessibility:

Hi.


Virtual recorder is one. Another is the rather interestingly named Cok
Free MP3 Recorder. It can record the microphone and system sound together.

Direct link:

http://www.coksoft.com/down/cokrecorder_setup.exe


Cheers:
Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy
Associates "We make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community -
http://valiantGalaxy.com"

<Sent with Thunderbird 52.1.0 portable>

On 1/18/2019 12:51 AM, zahra wrote:

hello every one.
i sent a comment previously which i mentioned i need one free and
accessible audio recorder which can records my voice and specially my
nvda voice, even if my system does not support stereo mix.
brian recommended me to use virtual recorder.
today, i wrote virtual recorder in google search and the only useful
link which i found is:
https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/topic/virtual_recorder/1883294

but i did not find the main website for this program, i mean the
website of producer and programmers of visual recorder to download it
directly.
i dont know how to use groups.io, so, i coppied the related link for
you to get help.
thanks again for all of your kindness and support, God bless you!