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Re: BARD Express
Gene
This isn't limited to NVDA. Whatever voice it
uses, it does so because of some sort of code in web pages or other
documents.
Others may be able to give more
information.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: marcio via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2019 7:53 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] BARD Express Looking forward to try understanding NVDA's way of thinking on it though. Em 19/01/2019 11:51, Gene escreveu:
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Re: BARD Express
Thanks for the always good advices, Gene.
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Looking forward to try understanding NVDA's way of thinking on it though. Em 19/01/2019 11:51, Gene escreveu:
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Re: BARD Express
Gene
I don't know what might determine it in a Word
document. In HTML, there is a language tag that many sites use to specify
the language of the site or page.
I explained in an earlier message how to stop the
synthesizer automatically changing language. You will notice a dialect
checkbox in the same voices dialog I discussed before. If you don't want
the dialect to change, for example, Brittish English on a site that specifies
the dialect, uncheck this box as well, if it is checked.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: marcio via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2019 7:17 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] BARD Express Em 19/01/2019 11:15, Nevzat Adil escreveu:
Yes, it switches to Spanish. Also in my Word documents NVDA switches to Spanish on some lines. Nevzat On 1/19/19, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@...> wrote:i am not doing it on purpose. it just happens. *** Jesus says, follow me and I'll help you through the rough spots. the world says, hey come with me. My way is broad and easy. So what if you get crap on your shoes. You can always wash it off, can't you! **** ----- Original Message ----- From: marcio via Groups.Io To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2019 1:39 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] BARD Express Hey Robert, How are you doing to have NVDA switching languages just reading e-mails? I would like such a feature in mine as well. Cheers, Marcio Follow me on Twitter Em 19/01/2019 06:37, Robert Doc Wright godfearer escreveu: unfortunately NVDA is switching languages and I cannot understand what you wrote. *** Jesus says, follow me and I'll help you through the rough spots. the world says, hey come with me. My way is broad and easy. So what if you get crap on your shoes. You can always wash it off, can't you! **** ----- Original Message ----- From: Gerardo Corripio To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 8:26 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] BARD Express Yes fix this issue! It’s annoying having to always invoke the Go to Details command in Bard Express! If the issue werefixed, it’d make thebrowsing of Bard Express somuchefficient! Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10 De: Robert Doc Wright godfearer Enviado: jueves, 17 de enero de 2019 04:51 a. m. Para: NVDA Asunto: [nvda] BARD Express has there been any consideration to fix NVDA to read the entire annotation when searching for books in BARD express? Currantly it only reads the title, author and a fraction of the annotation then jumps to the narrator. *** Jesus says, follow me and I'll help you through the rough spots. the world says, hey come with me. My way is broad and easy. So what if you get crap on your shoes. You can always wash it off, can't you! ****
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Re: BARD Express
And what determines such a behavior? I mean, when NVDA knows it's
time to change its language?
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Em 19/01/2019 11:15, Nevzat Adil
escreveu:
Yes, it switches to Spanish. Also in my Word documents NVDA switches to Spanish on some lines. Nevzat On 1/19/19, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@...> wrote:i am not doing it on purpose. it just happens. *** Jesus says, follow me and I'll help you through the rough spots. the world says, hey come with me. My way is broad and easy. So what if you get crap on your shoes. You can always wash it off, can't you! **** ----- Original Message ----- From: marcio via Groups.Io To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2019 1:39 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] BARD Express Hey Robert, How are you doing to have NVDA switching languages just reading e-mails? I would like such a feature in mine as well. Cheers, Marcio Follow me on Twitter Em 19/01/2019 06:37, Robert Doc Wright godfearer escreveu: unfortunately NVDA is switching languages and I cannot understand what you wrote. *** Jesus says, follow me and I'll help you through the rough spots. the world says, hey come with me. My way is broad and easy. So what if you get crap on your shoes. You can always wash it off, can't you! **** ----- Original Message ----- From: Gerardo Corripio To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 8:26 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] BARD Express Yes fix this issue! It’s annoying having to always invoke the Go to Details command in Bard Express! If the issue werefixed, it’d make thebrowsing of Bard Express somuchefficient! Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10 De: Robert Doc Wright godfearer Enviado: jueves, 17 de enero de 2019 04:51 a. m. Para: NVDA Asunto: [nvda] BARD Express has there been any consideration to fix NVDA to read the entire annotation when searching for books in BARD express? Currantly it only reads the title, author and a fraction of the annotation then jumps to the narrator. *** Jesus says, follow me and I'll help you through the rough spots. the world says, hey come with me. My way is broad and easy. So what if you get crap on your shoes. You can always wash it off, can't you! ****
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Re: BARD Express
Yes, it switches to Spanish. Also in my Word documents NVDA switches
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to Spanish on some lines. Nevzat
On 1/19/19, Robert Doc Wright godfearer <godfearer@comcast.net> wrote:
i am not doing it on purpose. it just happens.
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Re: BARD Express
Robert Doc Wright godfearer
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i am not doing it on purpose. it just happens.
***
Jesus says, follow me and I'll help you through the rough spots. the world says, hey come with me. My way is broad and easy. So what if you get crap on your shoes. You can always wash it off, can't you! ****
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Re: audio recorder with screen reader accessibility:
Chris Mullins
Hi I have managed to use it but it’s not very good accessibility wise. You can start a recording but the start button only responds to the spacebar and mouse button. It’s the same for all buttons. You have to move focus away from the app to get any audio feedback via NVDA and find the other buttons on the GUI. I emailed the author with some accessibility suggestions and he responded rather off-handedly saying he hadn’t got time to change anything.
Cheers Chris
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: 18 January 2019 23:17 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] audio recorder with screen reader accessibility:
Coke Free MP3 recorder? MMMM now I want a coke LOL! But in all seriousness Aaron how accessible is this? Get back to me privately at: BTW, I’m using WIN 10. Is it accessible with that?
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of valiant8086 <valiant8086@...>
Hi.
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Re: All windows are full screen
bering.p
Hi,
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This: This add-on adds to NVDA: 1- The following features (some of them can be enabled or disabled individually): - Display of the list of icons in the notification area , - Display the window list of running applications, - Assist in the composition of a symbol that is complex such as, for example, a a e related, a symbol power of 2 and option of adding their own categories and symbols, - Extension of the functionality of the buffer virtual for the browsers Mozilla Firefox, Microsoft Internet Explorer, Microsoft Edge and Google Chrome: * new navigation commands to the buffer virtual (paragraph, division, anchor, main landmark), * new types of elements for the dialog box opened by "NVDA+F7" (title,reference, frame, button,etc.) with the announcement of the number of items found , * scripts for the tables: announce of the cells in a row /column , go to first/last cell in the row/current column, move the column/row preceding or following with announcement possible of the cells in that row/column, * script to announce the URL of the document, * navigation in loop, - Announcement of the function associated with editing commands like Copy, Paste, etc., - Announcement of the name of the folder pre-selected in the dialog boxes like "Open","Save", "Save as",etc, - report or display informations about focused application : * Announcement of the name and state of current voice profile , * Announcement of the application's name and version number , * announcement of name and version number of activated add-on, - Opening of the old or current NVDA log and copy the path in the clipboard, - speech history, - presentation of the formatting of the text in a dialog box (disabled by default (NVDA command key NVDA+f), - renaming keyboard keys, - selective announcement of command keys, - simple minute countdown timer, - display visible items making up the foreground object, - quick voice profils switching, - modifier key remanence, - shutdown , reboot or hibernate the computer, - manage input gestures configured by user, - main and NVDA volume control: * set on or off the volume for focused application, - establishe and set the level of main and NVDA volume at module start. - conversion to html of t2t or markdown add-on doc files (for developer), 2- The following options: - remove the announcement of the object's description in the ribbons Windows, - announce the focused word when deleting a word, - automatically maximize the foreground window, - say, systematically, the punctuations and symbols when you move by word (not enabled by default). 3- Advanced options: - play sound on logged errors also for final or RC NVDA version, - establishe and set automaticaly the level of main and NVDA volume at loading of module. 4- and various other items such as: - sub-menus to explore the program folders or configuration, - script to restart NVDA. This Module has been developed with the participation of Daniel Poiraud. It is not compatible with versions of NVDA below the 2018.2.""" Paul. Le 19/01/2019 08:38, Lino Morales a
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Re: BARD Express
Gene
Turn use automatic language switching off.
it's in the settings for your synthesizer. I don't know if this part of
the interface has changed in new versions but you can try this. Use NVDA
key control v to open the synthesizer dialog and tab around until you find the
checkbox. Uncheck it with the space bar. Then Press
enter.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2019 2:37 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] BARD Express unfortunately NVDA is switching languages and I
cannot understand what you wrote.
***
Jesus says, follow me and I'll help you through the rough spots. the world says, hey come with me. My way is broad and easy. So what if you get crap on your shoes. You can always wash it off, can't you! ****
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Re: NVDA not giving accurate feedback
Gene
It isn't a question of what you use. It is
how you have NVDA set when you aren't using screen review. Have screen
review off unless you are using it. If it is on, it interferes with the
proper operation of NVDA when you are working with applications from the
keyboard, not reviewing the screen.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: zahra
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2019 2:27 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA not giving accurate
feedback navigation is not easy for me and i could not understand it until now. On 1/18/19, marcio via Groups.Io <marcinhorj21@...> wrote: > Are you sure you're on screen review mode? > If I have this enabled I simply can't read the screen properly. It just > keeps jumping around the screen and happily landing on where it thinks > it's nice to. > > Cheers, > Marcio > Follow me on Twitter <https://twitter.com/firirinfonfon> > > Em 19/01/2019 01:46, zahra escreveu: >> hi gene. >> i did not know remaining on screen review may causes problems. >> i am always on screen review and dont have any problem on it. >> nvda reads all items of desktop for me! >> or i press my desired item first letter and go to it directly. >> can you please explane more? >> thanks for any help, God bless you! >> >> On 1/18/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote: >>> I should also ask whether you are using the laptop or desktop layout. >>> The >>> commands to change these modes are different. NVDA v has nothing to do >>> with >>> this. it is a browse mode option. >>> >>> Gene >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: Cohn, Jonathan >>> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 8:53 AM >>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io >>> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA not giving accurate feedback >>> >>> >>> Is there a good discussion between the difference of screen navigation >>> and >>> object navigation? Is this what nvda-V toggles? There are vvsome parts >>> of >>> NVDA that I just try different options until one works and I have not >>> learned a consistent efficient way to use. That being said, NVDA now and >>> for >>> the foreseeable future for me will be the least used of the screen >>> readers >>> I use on a daily basis. >>> >>> >>> >>> Thanks, >>> >>> >>> >>> Jonathan >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> > > > > > -- By God, were I given all the seven heavens with all they contain in order that I may disobey God by depriving an ant from the husk of a grain of barley, I would not do it. imam ali
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Re: NVDA not giving accurate feedback
Gene
You may not hear the actual item where you are
being read. You may hear another item, maybe the one before or after your
position being read. I don't remember which one you hear. That may
happen in lists of files and folders as well, probably in any list view.
It may happen that when you read the headings of an e-mail, that you won't be on
the correct message in the list, its another list and another example, and the
headers themselves may not read properly.
Go back to object navigation when you have finished
using screen navigation and make it a habit. A JAWS user always returns to
the PC cursor and this is a similar principle.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: zahra
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA not giving accurate
feedback i did not know remaining on screen review may causes problems. i am always on screen review and dont have any problem on it. nvda reads all items of desktop for me! or i press my desired item first letter and go to it directly. can you please explane more? thanks for any help, God bless you! On 1/18/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote: > I should also ask whether you are using the laptop or desktop layout. The > commands to change these modes are different. NVDA v has nothing to do with > this. it is a browse mode option. > > Gene > ----- Original Message ----- > From: Cohn, Jonathan > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 8:53 AM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA not giving accurate feedback > > > Is there a good discussion between the difference of screen navigation and > object navigation? Is this what nvda-V toggles? There are vvsome parts of > NVDA that I just try different options until one works and I have not > learned a consistent efficient way to use. That being said, NVDA now and for > the foreseeable future for me will be the least used of the screen readers > I use on a daily basis. > > > > Thanks, > > > > Jonathan > > > > > > > -- By God, were I given all the seven heavens with all they contain in order that I may disobey God by depriving an ant from the husk of a grain of barley, I would not do it. imam ali
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Re: audio recorder with screen reader accessibility:
Gene
The problem doesn't arise if you have XP. Use
What You Hear, or Stereo Mix, the same feature but with a different name, or
whatever it is called, it has a number of names.
Make sure the sources you want to record are
unmuted in the play settings of your sound card. Then record.
Every sound card I've worked with in XP supports
What You Hear. It was universal or nearly so until after XP.
As for finding a recorder, you can use any recorder
you want. There is no separate feature in XP requiring certain
recorders. XP doesn't support loopback, which these recorders are using,
but it isn't necessary, as I explained above. The reason loopback was
instituted in recording programs is because so many sound cards don't support
what you hear after XP.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: zahra
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] audio recorder with screen reader
accessibility: cok free mp3 recorder. is it accessible well? does it support windows xp? can i record nvda voice even if my sound card does not support stereo mix? thanks again for any help, God bless you! On 1/18/19, Lino Morales <linomorales001@...> wrote: > Coke Free MP3 recorder? MMMM now I want a coke LOL! But in > all seriousness Aaron how accessible is this? Get back to me privately at: > > Lino.jr@...<mailto:Lino.jr@...> > > BTW, I’m using WIN 10. Is it accessible with that? > > > > Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows > 10 > > > > ________________________________ > From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of valiant8086 > <valiant8086@...> > Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 4:47:52 PM > To: nvda@nvda.groups.io; nvda@groups.io > Subject: Re: [nvda] audio recorder with screen reader accessibility: > > Hi. > > > Virtual recorder is one. Another is the rather interestingly named Cok > Free MP3 Recorder. It can record the microphone and system sound together. > > Direct link: > > http://www.coksoft.com/down/cokrecorder_setup.exe > > > Cheers: > Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy > Associates "We make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community - > http://valiantGalaxy.com" > > <Sent with Thunderbird 52.1.0 portable> > > On 1/18/2019 12:51 AM, zahra wrote: >> hello every one. >> i sent a comment previously which i mentioned i need one free and >> accessible audio recorder which can records my voice and specially my >> nvda voice, even if my system does not support stereo mix. >> brian recommended me to use virtual recorder. >> today, i wrote virtual recorder in google search and the only useful >> link which i found is: >> https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/topic/virtual_recorder/1883294 >> >> but i did not find the main website for this program, i mean the >> website of producer and programmers of visual recorder to download it >> directly. >> i dont know how to use groups.io, so, i coppied the related link for >> you to get help. >> thanks again for all of your kindness and support, God bless you! >> > > > > > > > > -- By God, were I given all the seven heavens with all they contain in order that I may disobey God by depriving an ant from the husk of a grain of barley, I would not do it. imam ali
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Re: FIrefox
Gene
As I recall, when such messages from Firefox come
up asking if you want to do something, usually choices are read and the commands
for those choices are spoken, as in a dialog. I don't know the command,
others may, but when the message comes up, do you let it read in its entirety
and lisetn for the commands? They go by fast if you have your speech set
to fast. Many people often interrupt speech when going through dialogs and
don't hear such commands much of the time. I'm just being sure you aren't
missing them.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
What is the key command to activate the alert menu? FOr example, when you get the alert message; "Would you like to save this password?" Thanks Chris
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Re: NVDA not giving accurate feedback
I think I missed something. Better, I misinterpreted.
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It may be the object navigation mode that I'm confused about, thus describing this issue. Em 19/01/2019 07:08, Felix G. escreveu:
Hi, I have yet to encounter a single case where screen review interferes destructively with the arrow keys. If anyone can explain it in simple terms I'd be grateful. The Basic Training For NVDA ebook, available from NVAccess, explains object navigation in a way most users should be able to follow. Generally speaking, this book is a very good investment for anyone using NVDA as their primary screen reader. Best, Felix Am Sa., 19. Jan. 2019 um 09:27 Uhr schrieb zahra <nasrinkhaksar3@...>:yes, i am sure that i always use screen review, using object navigation is not easy for me and i could not understand it until now. On 1/18/19, marcio via Groups.Io <marcinhorj21@...> wrote:Are you sure you're on screen review mode? If I have this enabled I simply can't read the screen properly. It just keeps jumping around the screen and happily landing on where it thinks it's nice to. Cheers, Marcio Follow me on Twitter <https://twitter.com/firirinfonfon> Em 19/01/2019 01:46, zahra escreveu:hi gene. i did not know remaining on screen review may causes problems. i am always on screen review and dont have any problem on it. nvda reads all items of desktop for me! or i press my desired item first letter and go to it directly. can you please explane more? thanks for any help, God bless you! On 1/18/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:I should also ask whether you are using the laptop or desktop layout. The commands to change these modes are different. NVDA v has nothing to do with this. it is a browse mode option. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Cohn, Jonathan Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 8:53 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA not giving accurate feedback Is there a good discussion between the difference of screen navigation and object navigation? Is this what nvda-V toggles? There are vvsome parts of NVDA that I just try different options until one works and I have not learned a consistent efficient way to use. That being said, NVDA now and for the foreseeable future for me will be the least used of the screen readers I use on a daily basis. Thanks, Jonathan-- By God, were I given all the seven heavens with all they contain in order that I may disobey God by depriving an ant from the husk of a grain of barley, I would not do it. imam ali
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Re: NVDA not giving accurate feedback
Felix G.
Hi,
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I have yet to encounter a single case where screen review interferes destructively with the arrow keys. If anyone can explain it in simple terms I'd be grateful. The Basic Training For NVDA ebook, available from NVAccess, explains object navigation in a way most users should be able to follow. Generally speaking, this book is a very good investment for anyone using NVDA as their primary screen reader. Best, Felix Am Sa., 19. Jan. 2019 um 09:27 Uhr schrieb zahra <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>:
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Re: BARD Express
Hey Robert,
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How are you doing to have NVDA switching languages just reading e-mails? I would like such a feature in mine as well. Em 19/01/2019 06:37, Robert Doc Wright
godfearer escreveu:
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Re: Minimum Specs for NVDA with Other Intensive Applications
Brian K. Lingard
From your description, appears your PC a year ago had an extremely overworked CPU or a large shortage of RAM.
SSD might help with the situation you describe; however, I suspect another 4 or 8 GB of RAM will work wonders. You may wish to change to the 64-bit version of MS Office if you have a 64-bit PC.
You may wish to run the Belarc Advisor on your PC, to ascertain its CPU, memory, disk etc. This program is free for personal use, provides a true treasure-trove of information about your PC.
Download from: HTTPS://WWW.BELARC.COM Brian K. Lingard
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf of Dave Grossoehme
Sent: January 18, 2019 5:00 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Minimum Specs for NVDA with Other Intensive Applications
Good Afternoon: I was working with a computer that did not have a SSD in it a year ago. My experience was I had to wait between letters when write a message in an email message. When reading anything my wait time between words was as much as 5 to 10 seconds between words. In that years’ time you have seen a lot difference. I am using nvda in my computer. My sighted son could even see one to seconds between words when reading anything, no matter how much memory the program took up. You can go Onto the web and find refurbished computers. I can tell you that a lot of the market has gone to SSD. Insider Dave 1/11/2019 7:05 AM, Gene wrote:
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Re: BARD Express
Robert Doc Wright godfearer
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unfortunately NVDA is switching languages and I
cannot understand what you wrote.
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Jesus says, follow me and I'll help you through the rough spots. the world says, hey come with me. My way is broad and easy. So what if you get crap on your shoes. You can always wash it off, can't you! ****
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Re: NVDA not giving accurate feedback
yes, i am sure that i always use screen review, using object
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navigation is not easy for me and i could not understand it until now.
On 1/18/19, marcio via Groups.Io <marcinhorj21=yahoo.com.br@groups.io> wrote:
Are you sure you're on screen review mode? --
By God, were I given all the seven heavens with all they contain in order that I may disobey God by depriving an ant from the husk of a grain of barley, I would not do it. imam ali
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Re: NVDACon 2019 - designed by the community
Akshaya Choudhary
I would like to contribute in my capacity.
-- Regards, Sociohack
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