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Re: BARD Express

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 


i am not doing it on purpose. it just happens.
***
Jesus says, follow me and I'll help you through the rough spots.
the world says, hey come with me. My way is broad and easy. So what if you get crap on your shoes. You can always wash it off, can't you!
****

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2019 1:39 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] BARD Express

Hey Robert,
How are you doing to have NVDA switching languages just reading e-mails? I would like such a feature in mine as well.

Cheers,
Marcio
Follow me on Twitter

Em 19/01/2019 06:37, Robert Doc Wright godfearer escreveu:

unfortunately NVDA is switching languages and I cannot understand what you wrote.
***
Jesus says, follow me and I'll help you through the rough spots.
the world says, hey come with me. My way is broad and easy. So what if you get crap on your shoes. You can always wash it off, can't you!
****
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 8:26 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] BARD Express

Yes fix this issue! It’s annoying having to always invoke the Go to Details command in Bard Express! If the issue werefixed, it’d make thebrowsing of Bard Express somuchefficient!

 

                                                                                              Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10

 

De: Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Enviado: jueves, 17 de enero de 2019 04:51 a. m.
Para: NVDA
Asunto: [nvda] BARD Express

 

has there been any consideration to fix NVDA to read the entire annotation when searching for books in BARD express? Currantly it only reads the title, author and a fraction of the annotation then jumps to the narrator.

***
Jesus says, follow me and I'll help you through the rough spots.
the world says, hey come with me. My way is broad and easy. So what if you get crap on your shoes. You can always wash it off, can't you!
****

 



Re: audio recorder with screen reader accessibility:

Chris Mullins
 

Hi

I have managed to use it but it’s not very good accessibility wise.  You can start a recording but the start button only responds to the spacebar and mouse button.  It’s the same for all buttons.  You have to move focus away from the app to get any audio feedback via NVDA and find the other buttons on the GUI.  I emailed the author with some accessibility suggestions and he responded rather off-handedly saying he hadn’t got time to change anything.    

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Lino Morales
Sent: 18 January 2019 23:17
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] audio recorder with screen reader accessibility:

 

                Coke Free MP3 recorder? MMMM now I want a coke LOL! But in all seriousness Aaron how accessible is this? Get back to me privately at:

Lino.jr@...

BTW, I’m using WIN 10. Is it accessible with that?

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of valiant8086 <valiant8086@...>
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 4:47:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io; nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] audio recorder with screen reader accessibility:

 

Hi.


Virtual recorder is one. Another is the rather interestingly named Cok
Free MP3 Recorder. It can record the microphone and system sound together.

Direct link:

http://www.coksoft.com/down/cokrecorder_setup.exe


Cheers:
Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy Associates "We make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community - http://valiantGalaxy.com"

<Sent with Thunderbird 52.1.0 portable>

On 1/18/2019 12:51 AM, zahra wrote:
> hello every one.
> i sent a comment previously which i mentioned i need one free and
> accessible audio recorder which can records my voice and specially my
> nvda voice, even if my system does not support stereo mix.
> brian recommended me to use virtual recorder.
> today, i wrote virtual recorder in google search and the only useful
> link which i found is:
> https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/topic/virtual_recorder/1883294
>
> but i did not find the main website for this program, i mean the
> website of producer and programmers of visual recorder to download it
> directly.
> i dont know how to use groups.io, so, i coppied the related link for
> you to get help.
> thanks again for all of your kindness and support, God bless you!
>




Re: All windows are full screen

bering.p
 

Hi,
This:

This add-on adds to NVDA:
1- The following features (some of them can be enabled or disabled individually):
- Display of the list of icons in the notification area ,
- Display the window list of running applications,
- Assist in the composition of a symbol that is complex such as, for example, a a e related, a symbol power of 2 and option of adding their own categories and symbols,
- Extension of the functionality of the buffer virtual for the browsers Mozilla Firefox, Microsoft Internet Explorer, Microsoft Edge and Google Chrome:
    * new navigation commands to the buffer virtual (paragraph, division, anchor, main landmark),
    * new types of elements for the dialog box opened by "NVDA+F7" (title,reference, frame, button,etc.) with the announcement of the number of items found ,
    * scripts for the tables: announce of the cells in a row /column , go to first/last cell in the row/current column, move the column/row preceding or following with announcement possible of the cells in that row/column,
    * script to announce the URL of the document,
    * navigation in loop,
- Announcement of the function associated with editing commands like Copy, Paste, etc.,
- Announcement of the name of the folder pre-selected in the dialog boxes like "Open","Save", "Save as",etc,
- report or  display informations about focused application :
    * Announcement of the name and state of current voice profile ,
    * Announcement of the application's name and version number ,
    * announcement of name and version number of activated add-on,
- Opening of the old or current NVDA log and copy the path in the clipboard,
- speech history,
- presentation of the formatting of the text in a dialog box (disabled by default (NVDA command key NVDA+f),
- renaming  keyboard keys,
- selective announcement of  command keys,
- simple minute countdown timer,
- display visible items making up the foreground object,
- quick voice profils switching,
- modifier key remanence,
- shutdown , reboot or hibernate the computer,
- manage input gestures configured by user,
- main and NVDA volume control:
    * set on or off the volume for focused application,
    - establishe and set the level of main and NVDA volume at module start.
- conversion to html   of t2t or markdown add-on doc  files (for developer),
    2- The following options:
- remove the announcement of the object's description in the ribbons Windows,
- announce the focused word when deleting a word,
- automatically maximize the foreground window,
- say, systematically, the punctuations and symbols when you move by word (not enabled by default).
3- Advanced options:
- play sound on logged errors also for final or RC NVDA version,
- establishe and set automaticaly the level of main and NVDA volume at loading of module.
4- and various other items such as:
- sub-menus to explore the program folders or configuration,
- script to restart NVDA.
This Module has been developed with the participation of Daniel Poiraud. It is not compatible with versions of NVDA below the 2018.2."""





Paul.
Le 19/01/2019 08:38, Lino Morales a écrit :

What is add-on supposed to do anyway? Thanks.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of bering.p <bering.p@...>
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2019 2:26:18 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] All windows are full screen
 
Hi,
Have you installed the NVDA GlobalPlugin Extension " add-on in your NVDA?
If yes, you can turn of  window maximization feature by uncheck
"Automatically maximize" windows"  option of this module.
Best regards.

Paul.
Le 19/01/2019 05:01, Sylvain Machefert a écrit :

HHii, I know the alt+space menu, and also the double click on the title of the window to restore its size and positionn,
but the maximization occurs when I launch an app (e.g. notepad) and also when I switch from a window to another usint alt+tab.
Regards,


Le 19 janv. 2019 04:42, "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@...> a écrit :
hi.
just press alt space and go down and set your desired settings.
god bless you all!


On 1/18/19, Sylvain Machefert <iubito@...> wrote:
> I don't remember having installed addons, I'll check that in a few days.
>
> Sylvain
>
> Le 18 janv. 2019 19:44, "Chris via Groups.Io" <chrismedley=
> btinternet.com@groups.io> a écrit :
>
> I guess you installed the nvda global addon recently
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Sylvain Machefert <iubito@...>
> *Sent: *18 January 2019 18:21
> *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io
> *Subject: *[nvda] All windows are full screen

>
>
>
> Hi NVDA group,
>
> I can't find the setting to disable this behaviour.
> After opening any window (notepad, task manager, 7-zip...), a few seconds
> after the windiws is fullscreened (maximized).
>
> If I close NVDA this behaviour disappear, so it seems it comes from it.
> As you can imagine, it annoyes me and I'd like to disable this.
> How to disable full screen ?
>
> Many thanks in advance
>
> --
> Sylvain Machefert
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali







Re: BARD Express

Gene
 

Turn use automatic language switching off.  it's in the settings for your synthesizer.  I don't know if this part of the interface has changed in new versions but you can try this.  Use NVDA key control v to open the synthesizer dialog and tab around until you find the checkbox.  Uncheck it with the space bar.  Then Press enter.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2019 2:37 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] BARD Express

unfortunately NVDA is switching languages and I cannot understand what you wrote.
***
Jesus says, follow me and I'll help you through the rough spots.
the world says, hey come with me. My way is broad and easy. So what if you get crap on your shoes. You can always wash it off, can't you!
****
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 8:26 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] BARD Express

Yes fix this issue! It’s annoying having to always invoke the Go to Details command in Bard Express! If the issue werefixed, it’d make thebrowsing of Bard Express somuchefficient!

 

                                                                                              Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10

 

De: Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Enviado: jueves, 17 de enero de 2019 04:51 a. m.
Para: NVDA
Asunto: [nvda] BARD Express

 

has there been any consideration to fix NVDA to read the entire annotation when searching for books in BARD express? Currantly it only reads the title, author and a fraction of the annotation then jumps to the narrator.

***
Jesus says, follow me and I'll help you through the rough spots.
the world says, hey come with me. My way is broad and easy. So what if you get crap on your shoes. You can always wash it off, can't you!
****

 


Re: NVDA not giving accurate feedback

Gene
 

It isn't a question of what you use.  It is how you have NVDA set when you aren't using screen review.  Have screen review off unless you are using it.  If it is on, it interferes with the proper operation of NVDA when you are working with applications from the keyboard, not reviewing the screen.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: zahra
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2019 2:27 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA not giving accurate feedback

yes, i am sure that i always use screen review, using object
navigation is not easy for me and i could not understand it until now.

On 1/18/19, marcio via Groups.Io <marcinhorj21@...> wrote:
> Are you sure you're on screen review mode?
> If I have this enabled I simply can't read the screen properly. It just
> keeps jumping around the screen and happily landing on where it thinks
> it's nice to.
>
> Cheers,
> Marcio
> Follow me on Twitter <https://twitter.com/firirinfonfon>
>
> Em 19/01/2019 01:46, zahra escreveu:
>> hi gene.
>> i did not know remaining on screen review may causes problems.
>> i am always on screen review and dont have any problem on it.
>> nvda reads all items of desktop for me!
>> or i press my desired item first letter and go to it directly.
>> can you please explane more?
>> thanks for any help, God bless you!
>>
>> On 1/18/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
>>> I should also ask whether you are using the laptop or desktop layout.
>>> The
>>> commands to change these modes are different.  NVDA v has nothing to do
>>> with
>>> this.  it is a browse mode option.
>>>
>>> Gene
>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>> From: Cohn, Jonathan
>>> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 8:53 AM
>>> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA not giving accurate feedback
>>>
>>>
>>> Is there a good discussion between the difference of screen navigation
>>> and
>>> object navigation? Is this what nvda-V toggles? There are vvsome parts
>>> of
>>> NVDA that I just try different options until one works and I have not
>>> learned a consistent efficient way to use. That being said, NVDA now and
>>> for
>>> the foreseeable  future for me will be the least used of the screen
>>> readers
>>> I use on a daily basis.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Jonathan
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>


--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali



Re: NVDA not giving accurate feedback

Gene
 

You may not hear the actual item where you are being read.  You may hear another item, maybe the one before or after your position being read.  I don't remember which one you hear.  That may happen in lists of files and folders as well, probably in any list view.  It may happen that when you read the headings of an e-mail, that you won't be on the correct message in the list, its another list and another example, and the headers themselves may not read properly. 
 
Go back to object navigation when you have finished using screen navigation and make it a habit.  A JAWS user always returns to the PC cursor and this is a similar principle. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: zahra
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA not giving accurate feedback

hi gene.
i did not know remaining on screen review may causes problems.
i am always on screen review and dont have any problem on it.
nvda reads all items of desktop for me!
or i press my desired item first letter and go to it directly.
can you please explane more?
thanks for any help, God bless you!

On 1/18/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
> I should also ask whether you are using the laptop or desktop layout.  The
> commands to change these modes are different.  NVDA v has nothing to do with
> this.  it is a browse mode option.
>
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Cohn, Jonathan
> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 8:53 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA not giving accurate feedback
>
>
> Is there a good discussion between the difference of screen navigation and
> object navigation? Is this what nvda-V toggles? There are vvsome parts of
> NVDA that I just try different options until one works and I have not
> learned a consistent efficient way to use. That being said, NVDA now and for
> the foreseeable  future for me will be the least used of the screen readers
> I use on a daily basis.
>
>
>
> Thanks,
>
>
>
> Jonathan
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali



Re: audio recorder with screen reader accessibility:

Gene
 

The problem doesn't arise if you have XP.  Use What You Hear, or Stereo Mix, the same feature but with a different name, or whatever it is called, it has a number of names. 
 
Make sure the sources you want to record are unmuted in the play settings of your sound card.  Then record. 
 
Every sound card I've worked with in XP supports What You Hear.  It was universal or nearly so until after XP. 
 
As for finding a recorder, you can use any recorder you want.  There is no separate feature in XP requiring certain recorders.  XP doesn't support loopback, which these recorders are using, but it isn't necessary, as I explained above.  The reason loopback was instituted in recording programs is because so many sound cards don't support what you hear after XP. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: zahra
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 9:37 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] audio recorder with screen reader accessibility:

hi.
cok free mp3 recorder. is it accessible well?
does it support windows xp?
can i record nvda voice even if my sound card does not support stereo mix?
thanks again for any help, God bless you!

On 1/18/19, Lino Morales <linomorales001@...> wrote:
>                 Coke Free MP3 recorder? MMMM now I want a coke LOL! But in
> all seriousness Aaron how accessible is this? Get back to me privately at:
>
> Lino.jr@...<mailto:Lino.jr@...>
>
> BTW, I’m using WIN 10. Is it accessible with that?
>
>
>
> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows
> 10
>
>
>
> ________________________________
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of valiant8086
> <valiant8086@...>
> Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 4:47:52 PM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io; nvda@groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] audio recorder with screen reader accessibility:
>
> Hi.
>
>
> Virtual recorder is one. Another is the rather interestingly named Cok
> Free MP3 Recorder. It can record the microphone and system sound together.
>
> Direct link:
>
> http://www.coksoft.com/down/cokrecorder_setup.exe
>
>
> Cheers:
> Aaron Spears, A.K.A. valiant8086. General Partner - Valiant Galaxy
> Associates "We make Very Good Audiogames for the blind community -
> http://valiantGalaxy.com"
>
> <Sent with Thunderbird 52.1.0 portable>
>
> On 1/18/2019 12:51 AM, zahra wrote:
>> hello every one.
>> i sent a comment previously which i mentioned i need one free and
>> accessible audio recorder which can records my voice and specially my
>> nvda voice, even if my system does not support stereo mix.
>> brian recommended me to use virtual recorder.
>> today, i wrote virtual recorder in google search and the only useful
>> link which i found is:
>> https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/topic/virtual_recorder/1883294
>>
>> but i did not find the main website for this program, i mean the
>> website of producer and programmers of visual recorder to download it
>> directly.
>> i dont know how to use groups.io, so, i coppied the related link for
>> you to get help.
>> thanks again for all of your kindness and support, God bless you!
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali



Re: FIrefox

Gene
 

As I recall, when such messages from Firefox come up asking if you want to do something, usually choices are read and the commands for those choices are spoken, as in a dialog.  I don't know the command, others may, but when the message comes up, do you let it read in its entirety and lisetn for the commands?  They go by fast if you have your speech set to fast.  Many people often interrupt speech when going through dialogs and don't hear such commands much of the time.  I'm just being sure you aren't missing them.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 7:45 PM
Subject: [nvda] FIrefox

Hi,
What is the key command to activate the alert menu? FOr example, when
you get the alert message;
"Would you like to save this password?"
Thanks
Chris



Re: NVDA not giving accurate feedback

 

I think I missed something. Better, I misinterpreted.
It may be the object navigation mode that I'm confused about, thus describing this issue.
Sorry about that.

Cheers,
Marcio
Follow me on Twitter

Em 19/01/2019 07:08, Felix G. escreveu:

Hi,
I have yet to encounter a single case where screen review interferes
destructively with the arrow keys. If anyone can explain it in simple
terms I'd be grateful.
The Basic Training For NVDA ebook, available from NVAccess, explains
object navigation in a way most users should be able to follow.
Generally speaking, this book is a very good investment for anyone
using NVDA as their primary screen reader.
Best,
Felix

Am Sa., 19. Jan. 2019 um 09:27 Uhr schrieb zahra <nasrinkhaksar3@...>:
yes, i am sure that i always use screen review, using object
navigation is not easy for me and i could not understand it until now.

On 1/18/19, marcio via Groups.Io <marcinhorj21@...> wrote:
Are you sure you're on screen review mode?
If I have this enabled I simply can't read the screen properly. It just
keeps jumping around the screen and happily landing on where it thinks
it's nice to.

Cheers,
Marcio
Follow me on Twitter <https://twitter.com/firirinfonfon>

Em 19/01/2019 01:46, zahra escreveu:
hi gene.
i did not know remaining on screen review may causes problems.
i am always on screen review and dont have any problem on it.
nvda reads all items of desktop for me!
or i press my desired item first letter and go to it directly.
can you please explane more?
thanks for any help, God bless you!

On 1/18/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
I should also ask whether you are using the laptop or desktop layout.
The
commands to change these modes are different.  NVDA v has nothing to do
with
this.  it is a browse mode option.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Cohn, Jonathan
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 8:53 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA not giving accurate feedback


Is there a good discussion between the difference of screen navigation
and
object navigation? Is this what nvda-V toggles? There are vvsome parts
of
NVDA that I just try different options until one works and I have not
learned a consistent efficient way to use. That being said, NVDA now and
for
the foreseeable  future for me will be the least used of the screen
readers
I use on a daily basis.



Thanks,



Jonathan








          





--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali








Re: NVDA not giving accurate feedback

Felix G.
 

Hi,
I have yet to encounter a single case where screen review interferes
destructively with the arrow keys. If anyone can explain it in simple
terms I'd be grateful.
The Basic Training For NVDA ebook, available from NVAccess, explains
object navigation in a way most users should be able to follow.
Generally speaking, this book is a very good investment for anyone
using NVDA as their primary screen reader.
Best,
Felix

Am Sa., 19. Jan. 2019 um 09:27 Uhr schrieb zahra <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>:


yes, i am sure that i always use screen review, using object
navigation is not easy for me and i could not understand it until now.

On 1/18/19, marcio via Groups.Io <marcinhorj21=yahoo.com.br@groups.io> wrote:
Are you sure you're on screen review mode?
If I have this enabled I simply can't read the screen properly. It just
keeps jumping around the screen and happily landing on where it thinks
it's nice to.

Cheers,
Marcio
Follow me on Twitter <https://twitter.com/firirinfonfon>

Em 19/01/2019 01:46, zahra escreveu:
hi gene.
i did not know remaining on screen review may causes problems.
i am always on screen review and dont have any problem on it.
nvda reads all items of desktop for me!
or i press my desired item first letter and go to it directly.
can you please explane more?
thanks for any help, God bless you!

On 1/18/19, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
I should also ask whether you are using the laptop or desktop layout.
The
commands to change these modes are different. NVDA v has nothing to do
with
this. it is a browse mode option.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Cohn, Jonathan
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 8:53 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA not giving accurate feedback


Is there a good discussion between the difference of screen navigation
and
object navigation? Is this what nvda-V toggles? There are vvsome parts
of
NVDA that I just try different options until one works and I have not
learned a consistent efficient way to use. That being said, NVDA now and
for
the foreseeable future for me will be the least used of the screen
readers
I use on a daily basis.



Thanks,



Jonathan










--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali



Re: BARD Express

 

Hey Robert,
How are you doing to have NVDA switching languages just reading e-mails? I would like such a feature in mine as well.

Cheers,
Marcio
Follow me on Twitter

Em 19/01/2019 06:37, Robert Doc Wright godfearer escreveu:


unfortunately NVDA is switching languages and I cannot understand what you wrote.
***
Jesus says, follow me and I'll help you through the rough spots.
the world says, hey come with me. My way is broad and easy. So what if you get crap on your shoes. You can always wash it off, can't you!
****
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 8:26 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] BARD Express

Yes fix this issue! It’s annoying having to always invoke the Go to Details command in Bard Express! If the issue werefixed, it’d make thebrowsing of Bard Express somuchefficient!

 

                                                                                              Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10

 

De: Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Enviado: jueves, 17 de enero de 2019 04:51 a. m.
Para: NVDA
Asunto: [nvda] BARD Express

 

has there been any consideration to fix NVDA to read the entire annotation when searching for books in BARD express? Currantly it only reads the title, author and a fraction of the annotation then jumps to the narrator.

***
Jesus says, follow me and I'll help you through the rough spots.
the world says, hey come with me. My way is broad and easy. So what if you get crap on your shoes. You can always wash it off, can't you!
****

 



Re: Minimum Specs for NVDA with Other Intensive Applications

Brian K. Lingard
 

 

From your description, appears your PC a year ago had an extremely overworked CPU or a large shortage of RAM.

 

SSD might help with the situation you describe; however, I suspect another 4 or 8 GB of RAM will work wonders. You may wish to change to the 64-bit version of MS Office if you have a 64-bit PC.

 

You may wish to run the Belarc Advisor on your PC, to ascertain its CPU, memory, disk etc. This program is free for personal use, provides a true treasure-trove of information about your PC.

 

Download from: HTTPS://WWW.BELARC.COM

Brian K. Lingard

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf of Dave Grossoehme
Sent: January 18, 2019 5:00 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Minimum Specs for NVDA with Other Intensive Applications

 

Good Afternoon:  I was working with a computer that did not have a SSD in it a year ago.  My experience was I had to wait between letters when write a message in an email message.  When reading anything my wait time between words was as much as 5 to 10 seconds between words.  In that years’ time you have seen a lot difference.  I am using nvda in my computer.  My sighted son could even see one to seconds between words when reading anything, no matter how much memory the program took up.  You can go

Onto the web and find refurbished computers.  I can tell you that a lot of the market has gone to SSD.

Insider Dave

1/11/2019 7:05 AM, Gene wrote:

That is a general statement and is not correct if you run a synthesizer that is not computer intensive.  I do not know how much more work it is to run an intensive synthesizer but because of slower response time while working with one, many blind people run a very responsive synthesizer such as Eloquence for actual working with the computer.  They use one of the newer more intensive synthesizers for listening to things where they will be just listening such as reading a book. 

 

A screen-reader when used with a synthesizer like Eloquence is not intensive.  I do not know whether an SSD increases responsiveness of the newer kind of synthesizer but my point is that you need not buy a much more expensive machine to use a screen-reader as I have described.  If you do, and if you benefit from doing so when you use a more intensive synthesizer for everything, you then have to consider the extra money you spent on the computer as part of the cost of the synthesizer and it may be unreasonable.  I am also not saying that getting a really fast computer would make newer synthesizers more responsive, I do not know.  I am talking about cost/benefit.

 

Gene

Sent: Friday, January 11, 2019 5:19 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Minimum Specs for NVDA with Other Intensive Applications

 

Dear Noah & List:

Running a screenreader adds a fair bit of work to a PC as you have a software synthesizer. You could offload the work of speaking by using a hardware synthesizer such as a Doubletalk or Triple talk. Your laptop needs SSD not a mechanical hard disk with 8, 16 or 32 GB RAM. 32 GB is best if you plan to do video and/or audio editing & recording. The PC at your school may have as little as one GB RAM and a slow CPU. Giving the laptop adequate RAM ids, more important that high-performance CPU. Look for a laptop with a fast, but not necessarily Intel I8 speed. An Intel I5 or six CPU should work fine. You consume CPU cycles a lot if you do sound or video editing, recalculate mammoth spreadsheets and run many programs concurrently.
Web browsing is light work for a PC.
Download the Belarc Advisor from HTTPS://www.belarc.com. Run it on the problem computers at school. Lists the CPU chip, installed RAM, software licenses, everything worth knowing about the PC. Also gives information on the SSD or Hard Disk. Program is free for personal use.
Brian K. Lingard

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf of Noah Carver via Groups.Io
Sent: January 10, 2019 6:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Minimum Specs for NVDA with Other Intensive Applications

Hi All,
I will need to get a laptop for school; however, the school machines cannot run NVDA plus Chrome and Word all at the same time without lagging.
What I need is a powerful machine that can handle email, office, and web Browsing, ETC. without wimping out on me while I am trying to do work. Do you have any recommendations for specs or any particular laptops that you might recommend?

Thanks,

Noah


Re: BARD Express

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 


unfortunately NVDA is switching languages and I cannot understand what you wrote.
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the world says, hey come with me. My way is broad and easy. So what if you get crap on your shoes. You can always wash it off, can't you!
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----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 8:26 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] BARD Express

Yes fix this issue! It’s annoying having to always invoke the Go to Details command in Bard Express! If the issue werefixed, it’d make thebrowsing of Bard Express somuchefficient!

 

                                                                                              Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10

 

De: Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Enviado: jueves, 17 de enero de 2019 04:51 a. m.
Para: NVDA
Asunto: [nvda] BARD Express

 

has there been any consideration to fix NVDA to read the entire annotation when searching for books in BARD express? Currantly it only reads the title, author and a fraction of the annotation then jumps to the narrator.

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the world says, hey come with me. My way is broad and easy. So what if you get crap on your shoes. You can always wash it off, can't you!
****

 


Re: NVDA not giving accurate feedback

 

yes, i am sure that i always use screen review, using object
navigation is not easy for me and i could not understand it until now.

On 1/18/19, marcio via Groups.Io <marcinhorj21=yahoo.com.br@groups.io> wrote:
Are you sure you're on screen review mode?
If I have this enabled I simply can't read the screen properly. It just
keeps jumping around the screen and happily landing on where it thinks
it's nice to.

Cheers,
Marcio
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Em 19/01/2019 01:46, zahra escreveu:
hi gene.
i did not know remaining on screen review may causes problems.
i am always on screen review and dont have any problem on it.
nvda reads all items of desktop for me!
or i press my desired item first letter and go to it directly.
can you please explane more?
thanks for any help, God bless you!

On 1/18/19, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
I should also ask whether you are using the laptop or desktop layout.
The
commands to change these modes are different. NVDA v has nothing to do
with
this. it is a browse mode option.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Cohn, Jonathan
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 8:53 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA not giving accurate feedback


Is there a good discussion between the difference of screen navigation
and
object navigation? Is this what nvda-V toggles? There are vvsome parts
of
NVDA that I just try different options until one works and I have not
learned a consistent efficient way to use. That being said, NVDA now and
for
the foreseeable future for me will be the least used of the screen
readers
I use on a daily basis.



Thanks,



Jonathan









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Re: NVDACon 2019 - designed by the community

Akshaya Choudhary
 

I would like to contribute in my capacity.
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Re: How in the world do I select from this list?

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I had one exactly like that on a medical registration site for my doctor. I reported it back and I'm still waiting. You need to tell us the site otherwise we can only guess. In my case it was quite obvious to me that some non standard method wos in use.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Clarissa Mitchell" <MusicGirl712@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 10:55 PM
Subject: [nvda] How in the world do I select from this list?


Using Firefox, I'm on a website with a form. In the part where I'm
supposed to fill in my birth date, there's something like an edit box,
that appears to have a selection list accompanying it. When NVDA
encounters the edit box, it just says "read only" which presumably
means I can't type into it. But further down, or when I press tab,
NVDA says "list" so I should be able to select from a list. But that's
all it says: "list" and nothing more. There's no speaking of items in
the list from which I could select. All three fields for month, day
and year are like this. How do I accomplish this?


Re: general announcement on windows 10 update and hp computers.

 

Win7 you can do this, actually with a printer usually installing the correct drivers stops this issue.

Interestingly enough I decided to unhide the update and found another update that while it didn't install it was still in the updates to hide list for silverlite and manually installed it and that went away.

It appears the effected update is gone from windows update because when I tried to unhide it again it is no longer present leading me to say it was an detection issue serverside, that happens from time to time.

On the other side, windows 1809 seems to have had all but 1-2 of its updateblocks removed for certain.

That in itself is good.

On 18/01/2019 9:49 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Yes well, I had a similar thing a while back on a laserprinter driver on windows 7 again an HP piece of hardware.
I just stopped it from installing as everything worked fine.
I have never seen it again.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 7:22 AM
Subject: [nvda] general announcement on windows 10 update and hp computers.


Hi.

I am not sure if this is multi os or not but maybe its only win10.

I got an update for hp hid devices today that I thought I allready installed.

The update will not install, and further more simply tries to install again and again.

I origionally thought that it was a bios issue and since there was an update for my new workstation I loaded it.

Its happening on my aunt's workstation.

Now looking at the software distribution folder its an update to the wireless button keyboard driver which isn't really important that it install.

Now since its happened on 2 hp units its probably a ms detection issue or a windows hardware bug the sysdev page doesn't show so who knows when I search for it so maybe its an issue that will be solved.

For now

https://support.microsoft.com/en-nz/help/4026726/windows-hide-windows-updates-or-driver-updates

This link has a troubleshooter that will hide or show updates and is a 45kb file, such a pitty this is not part of windows update anymore.

Anyway if You get drivers like this that just don't want to load you can hide them so they don't try to install.

And they can stay hidden to till you need to reinstall windows again.

Then you hide them again.

I'd usually complain to ms on this issue but its just not that important a driver.

Hp has the latest drivers which I have installed and all needs to be done is to have the effected thing hide so it doesn't install loop every update check.

I wouldn't take this approach with every update but for this one it works, also if an update breaks you can hide it if you want.

I wouldn't hide updates that are critical but this will solve it for us.

Now that update may appear again hopefully when ms fixes it later which they probably will do in the coming days.

I got this update earlier in the month and it came from last year at the end of it so who knows why its being stupid now.

I am sure its a detection issue, probably server side, and will be fixed sooner or later, there will not be any documented issue as with all driver updates unless its really so bad it needs it but there we go.







Re: NVDA Future Improvements Survey - Users, make your voice heard

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Yes I reposted it a couple of days back.

Maybe if they repeated these on an auto poster system in here?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, January 18, 2019 2:51 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA Future Improvements Survey - Users, make your voice heard


Given some recent discussions here, I thought it couldn't hurt to repost this. This survey is from NVAccess and it uses Google Forms:

NVDA Future Improvements Survey ( https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLScXTe1_l52wVsDdvJNpAQ7qiU7A141BaugI8XuVxKz0A1TFNQ/viewform?usp=sf_link )

If you are an NVDA user and wish to have your voice heard with regard to the future direction and priorities in NVDA, then take the time to take the survey.
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Re: All windows are full screen

Lino Morales
 

What is add-on supposed to do anyway? Thanks.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of bering.p <bering.p@...>
Sent: Saturday, January 19, 2019 2:26:18 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] All windows are full screen
 
Hi,
Have you installed the NVDA GlobalPlugin Extension " add-on in your NVDA?
If yes, you can turn of  window maximization feature by uncheck
"Automatically maximize" windows"  option of this module.
Best regards.

Paul.
Le 19/01/2019 05:01, Sylvain Machefert a écrit :

HHii, I know the alt+space menu, and also the double click on the title of the window to restore its size and positionn,
but the maximization occurs when I launch an app (e.g. notepad) and also when I switch from a window to another usint alt+tab.
Regards,


Le 19 janv. 2019 04:42, "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@...> a écrit :
hi.
just press alt space and go down and set your desired settings.
god bless you all!


On 1/18/19, Sylvain Machefert <iubito@...> wrote:
> I don't remember having installed addons, I'll check that in a few days.
>
> Sylvain
>
> Le 18 janv. 2019 19:44, "Chris via Groups.Io" <chrismedley=
> btinternet.com@groups.io> a écrit :
>
> I guess you installed the nvda global addon recently
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Sylvain Machefert <iubito@...>
> *Sent: *18 January 2019 18:21
> *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io
> *Subject: *[nvda] All windows are full screen

>
>
>
> Hi NVDA group,
>
> I can't find the setting to disable this behaviour.
> After opening any window (notepad, task manager, 7-zip...), a few seconds
> after the windiws is fullscreened (maximized).
>
> If I close NVDA this behaviour disappear, so it seems it comes from it.
> As you can imagine, it annoyes me and I'd like to disable this.
> How to disable full screen ?
>
> Many thanks in advance
>
> --
> Sylvain Machefert
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


--
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were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali






Re: All windows are full screen

bering.p
 

Hi,
Have you installed the NVDA GlobalPlugin Extension " add-on in your NVDA?
If yes, you can turn of  window maximization feature by uncheck
"Automatically maximize" windows"  option of this module.
Best regards.

Paul.
Le 19/01/2019 05:01, Sylvain Machefert a écrit :

HHii, I know the alt+space menu, and also the double click on the title of the window to restore its size and positionn,
but the maximization occurs when I launch an app (e.g. notepad) and also when I switch from a window to another usint alt+tab.
Regards,


Le 19 janv. 2019 04:42, "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@...> a écrit :
hi.
just press alt space and go down and set your desired settings.
god bless you all!


On 1/18/19, Sylvain Machefert <iubito@...> wrote:
> I don't remember having installed addons, I'll check that in a few days.
>
> Sylvain
>
> Le 18 janv. 2019 19:44, "Chris via Groups.Io" <chrismedley=
> btinternet.com@groups.io> a écrit :
>
> I guess you installed the nvda global addon recently
>
>
>
>
>
> *From: *Sylvain Machefert <iubito@...>
> *Sent: *18 January 2019 18:21
> *To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io
> *Subject: *[nvda] All windows are full screen

>
>
>
> Hi NVDA group,
>
> I can't find the setting to disable this behaviour.
> After opening any window (notepad, task manager, 7-zip...), a few seconds
> after the windiws is fullscreened (maximized).
>
> If I close NVDA this behaviour disappear, so it seems it comes from it.
> As you can imagine, it annoyes me and I'd like to disable this.
> How to disable full screen ?
>
> Many thanks in advance
>
> --
> Sylvain Machefert
>
>
>
>
>
>
>


--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali