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Re: Need help learning Braille

Pascal Lambert <coccinelle86@...>
 

Hi,

If you have a rehab center for newly blind adults near you, that is the best place to learn Braille as you will have direct instruction with someone who will show you the scanning techniques and ways to develop the ability to read with both hands.  Otherwise, the Hadley school is the next choice.  Learning the basics is very simple and takes no time.  It is the practice reading that is the most important.  You start with single letters, then single words, then short sentences.   Avoid the tendency to rub the dots to identify them.  It is better to rock the finger’s tips over the dots.  Sometimes using thermoform (plastic paper) on which the Braille lessons are produced on, makes the identification at first easier.  I used it to teach blind persons with diabetes with great success.

Best of luck.

Blessings

Pascal

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2019 2:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need help learning Braille

 

Hi,

 

It's never too late to learn braille. When I was a medical transcriber years ago, I had a medical dictionary in braille. That way when I came across unfamiliar words, I could look them up before typing out reports. Hadley School for the Blind does have some very good courses that will help you learn braille.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sociohack AC
Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2019 7:00 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Need help learning Braille

 

Hi guys!
I always had enough vision that I never felt the need of learning Braille. I'm 22 and wish to learn it now. I need to make frequent presentations in my class, and for now, I try and memorize all the stuff I need to present. It's a difficult and time consuming task, I'm thinking maybe learning Braille could help me in this regard. I see myself in professions which might need frequent public speaking.

What do you guys suggest? Is learning Braille a good idea at this point? How long will it take and how efficient can I get? I have read on this forum that it is very difficult and you can't get very good at it, if you start leaning it at an advanced age.

All feedback is welcome.

Regards


Re: Vocalizer for NVDA 2.0

Gerardo Corripio
 

OH OK thanks for enlightning! I was starting to get worried why I couldn’t get the voices to show up, and it then asked for some sort of a license file? thanks for clearing things up.

Gera
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El 5 feb 2019, a la(s) 1:44 p. m., Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com> escribió:

Sorry, I didn't place the quotes... Smile!

"Vocalizer for NVDA 2.0"

It is our old version of Vocalizer Expressive...

Regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 16:35 de 05/02/2019, Don H escreveu:
Did I miss something here? What is NVDA 2.0?
On 2/5/2019 10:30 AM, Rui Fontes wrote:
Hello!

All addons of Vocalizer for NVDA 2.0 are ready to last Alpha version of NVDA...

The direct link for downloads page is:
https://www.tiflotecnia.net/downloads.htm

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.




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Re: Outlook 2016, check for available room

Lars Bjørndal <lars@...>
 

This is an old issue that's not fixed yet. Please refere to:

<https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/8158>

Hoping for progress.

Thanks in advance

Lars

On Wed, Mar 21, 2018 at 07:03:26PM +0100, Lars Bjørndal wrote:
Hello list!

There is an Outlook feature that seems to be unaccessible when using
NVDA. Step by step instructions on how to reproduce goes as follow:

- Choose New appointment

- Fill in date/time/subject

- Press ctrl-tab to go to the scheduling assistant

- Choose Find room

- Type the first letters on the rooms you want to check for availability
and press Enter.

In this dialog box it is possible to press ctrl-down arrow, and press
Space on the rooms you want to check. NVDA reads the first entry
whenever you press ctrl-down, and if you press Space, NVDA doesn't
repport back if the entry is checked or not.

Hope this can be fixed.

Thanks and regards, Lars



Re: print screen

Brice Mijares
 

Briin, I bank with B of A, once the page loads, it gives you alist of all your accounts and amounts. . It's easier every few days to take a screen shot than to wait once a month to doownload a accessible statement. I won't go into the personal reasons why I like to keeep up with this info. Have a great day.

On 2/5/2019 10:28 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
However, I would encourage you to explore the  page as most banks seem now to be getting the message to download the statements in an accessible format, IE no longer just a picture pdf, probably a spreadsheet or tabulated list of some type.
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2019 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] print screen

Hi
If you're using Windows 10, read this: https://saomaicenter.org/en/blog/access-tech/using-windows-10-ocr-feature-nvda
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To: "nvda" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2019 11:59 PM
Subject: [nvda] print screen


Say I took a scrren shot of my bank accounts , using NVDA, what are the step by step I'd use to read the screen shot using an OCR feature? If I remember correctly, NVDA had such capabilities. thanks





Re: Need help learning Braille

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi,

 

It's never too late to learn braille. When I was a medical transcriber years ago, I had a medical dictionary in braille. That way when I came across unfamiliar words, I could look them up before typing out reports. Hadley School for the Blind does have some very good courses that will help you learn braille.

 

Rosemarie

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sociohack AC
Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2019 7:00 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Need help learning Braille

 

Hi guys!
I always had enough vision that I never felt the need of learning Braille. I'm 22 and wish to learn it now. I need to make frequent presentations in my class, and for now, I try and memorize all the stuff I need to present. It's a difficult and time consuming task, I'm thinking maybe learning Braille could help me in this regard. I see myself in professions which might need frequent public speaking.

What do you guys suggest? Is learning Braille a good idea at this point? How long will it take and how efficient can I get? I have read on this forum that it is very difficult and you can't get very good at it, if you start leaning it at an advanced age.

All feedback is welcome.

Regards


Re: Vocalizer for NVDA 2.0

Rui Fontes
 

Sorry, I didn't place the quotes... Smile!

"Vocalizer for NVDA 2.0"

It is our old version of Vocalizer Expressive...

Regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 16:35 de 05/02/2019, Don H escreveu:

Did I miss something here?  What is NVDA 2.0?
On 2/5/2019 10:30 AM, Rui Fontes wrote:
Hello!

All addons of Vocalizer for NVDA 2.0 are ready to last Alpha version of NVDA...

The direct link for downloads page is:
https://www.tiflotecnia.net/downloads.htm

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.




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Re: Need help learning Braille

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Pascal,

I started learning braille when I was 5 years old. Yes, listening to information is fine but I find that I can retain things better if I actually read in braille. For instance, if I see a new word that I'm not familiar with, I can read the letters and remember how to spell the word.

Rosemarie

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Pascal Lambert
Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2019 7:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need help learning Braille

Yes, learning Braille is definitely an asset for a blind person and even for those who still have some vision. Listening to information is fine, however, there are times when you need to have your fingers on the info for spelling and for close analysis of what you are reading. You are still young and, with practice, you can become a proficient reader. I read books in Braille and I can read with both hands about 350 words per minute. I started learning Braille as a teen in France.
Best of luck. Any question, please do not hesitate to contact me.
Blessings
Pascal

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jackie
Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2019 10:08 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Need help learning Braille

sociohack, learning Braille is extremely helpful for what you want.
You may not get good enough to read books, but that isn't what you want anyway. You just want to get good enough to read notes, etc, & that is very very doable, even when you're older--& believe me, 22 just is not that old. I can assure you I use it for just that purpose, as well as to sing in choir when I did that. I've seen people who were older & even older diabetics learn it enough for those kinds of uses.
Learn it. Start now. You'll be ecstatic you did. Don't let the naysayers have their day.

On 2/5/19, Sociohack AC <acsociopath@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi guys!
I always had enough vision that I never felt the need of learning Braille.
I'm 22 and wish to learn it now. I need to make frequent presentations
in my class, and for now, I try and memorize all the stuff I need to
present. It's a difficult and time consuming task, I'm thinking maybe
learning Braille could help me in this regard. I see myself in
professions which might need frequent public speaking.

What do you guys suggest? Is learning Braille a good idea at this
point? How long will it take and how efficient can I get? I have read
on this forum that it is very difficult and you can't get very good at
it, if you start leaning it at an advanced age.

All feedback is welcome.

Regards




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Re: OK died in the wool JAWS user using NVDA

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OK we will just use a 1 ton weight instead hanging from a crane then...grin
I do agree that although the screen and other navigation modes are powerful, the issue is the way to use them for those not interested in understanding objects children and all of that layered stuff. Flat review only seems to be utilising half of the power, but since I am not sure what Jaws actually is doing behind the scenes, given they probably harvest similar data, I'll leave it at that.
I do notice though that even today, Jaws has a video interceptor loaded in windows 7.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Nutt" <steve@comproom.co.uk>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2019 5:03 PM
Subject: [nvda] OK died in the wool JAWS user using NVDA


Hi all,



With all this talk about 64-bit NVDA would be a lot better, I have to say
that NVDA, using CodeFactory's Eloquence add-on, is more responsive for me
now than JAWS.



Also, another piece of good news, my Windows settings in Control Panel in
Windows 10 is now accessible with NVDA, whereas for ages, it wouldn't speak
any of that window. I realise it was limited to a few configurations, but
it sure was annoying at the time. I also realise that these problems are
borne of problems with UIA, rather than problems with NVDA.



In short, although I have, and will continue to, use JAWS for a while yet, I
think that NVDA is coming on in leaps and bounds.



But there are one or two very silly things about NVDA. For example, it
won't read how many messages are unread in a folder, when you Control+Y in
Outlook. This is seriously annoying to me and one reason I couldn't use it
full time. It is visually there, and JAWS reads it, so in my view, by now,
NVDA should read it too.



Also, flat review and object nav is not as intuitive as the JAWS cursor.
You can't just do a screen find, and click on it. We really need an
equivalent to Hotspot Clicker in NVDA as well.



I keep coming back to this, because I want NVDA to be the go-to screen
reader for everyone, but I think JAWS still has a little more polish than
NVDA.



Just one guy's opinion, don't shoot me.



All the best


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Re: print screen

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However, I would encourage you to explore the page as most banks seem now to be getting the message to download the statements in an accessible format, IE no longer just a picture pdf, probably a spreadsheet or tabulated list of some type.

Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2019 5:11 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] print screen


Hi
If you're using Windows 10, read this: https://saomaicenter.org/en/blog/access-tech/using-windows-10-ocr-feature-nvda
Cuong
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To: "nvda" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2019 11:59 PM
Subject: [nvda] print screen


Say I took a scrren shot of my bank accounts , using NVDA, what are the step by step I'd use to read the screen shot using an OCR feature? If I remember correctly, NVDA had such capabilities. thanks




Re: Vocalizer for NVDA 2.0

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I do not know why he calls it that. but I was thinking maybe he means its been python 3 tested or something. Certainly he had to change the manifest files to help get the add on to be allowed in the upcoming version of nvda which is starting to be more strict about add on code in readyness for the significant changes coming soon.
Brian

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Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2019 4:35 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Vocalizer for NVDA 2.0


Did I miss something here? What is NVDA 2.0?

On 2/5/2019 10:30 AM, Rui Fontes wrote:
Hello!

All addons of Vocalizer for NVDA 2.0 are ready to last Alpha version of NVDA...

The direct link for downloads page is:
https://www.tiflotecnia.net/downloads.htm

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.






Re: Getting Sound in Windows 10 Safe Mode

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I must have missed a bit in this discussion as I know in 7 if you are the admin you can in fact merge the keys to change. You get a warning and then its done, a reboot then sets it to be permanent.


I do not think we would encourage on here anyone explaining how to hack it if you are not the person who the machine is logged on as so to speak, though I've no doubt it could all be scripted to do it running from a safe mode copy of windows not locked to a user.

Brian

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Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2019 4:29 PM
Subject: [nvda] Getting Sound in Windows 10 Safe Mode


Hello All,

Mission has been accomplished, but I am trying to get one or two additional pieces of information regarding ownership of the registry key in question before writing up the instructions.

The process involves manually editing the registry with regard to changing the ownership of the key (and there's only one) involved and granting full access to your Administrators group to it before running a 2-line registry edit script that deletes the existing key then reinserts it with the necessary value to allow sound in Safe Mode.

Do I need to write up step-by-step instructions for regedit (and, if so, might someone know of an existing tutorial that I can use as a baseline rather than reinventing the wheel for that part)? I'd rather refer folks to an existing tutorial if there's a good one on using regedit with a screen reader than having to write anything at all, but I will if I must.

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Re: A weird one!

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

It thinks you have pressed a combination of keys. I've definitely seen this in Windows 7. It seems quite random and I suspect its a windows issue myself. It is very rare but can for example appear if something is taking longer than normal to boot up I found.
If anyone has any idea let us know Often looking at the nvda log shos that several keys are pressed when only one or two are really pressed.
I'm almost sure this goes back a very long way and had a ticket but nobody could get it to happen to order. I found often in my case it was windows and control.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Roger Stewart" <paganus2@gmail.com>
To: "NVDA List" <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2019 3:46 PM
Subject: [nvda] A weird one!


When I started my computer this morning I went to read my email and every key I pressed nvda kept saying "not in a table cell". I have no idea what that was about. I tried nvda key plus q to quit or restart nvda and it kept saying the same silly thing about table cells. Fortunately I have the Spydec P-View utility and I was able to find nvda.exe in the list of running apps and I was able to kill it from there. After I restarted nvda, everything was normal again! This is the first time I've ever had this happen in several years of using nvda. It was probably a one in a million glitch of some kind, but I'll watch and see if it ever happens again but I doubt it will. Any ideas on what might have happened? Just curious as I don't think this is a bug.

Roger




Re: print screen

Brice Mijares
 

Thanks for the link, I'll check it out.

On 2/5/2019 9:11 AM, Dang Manh Cuong wrote:
Hi
If you're using Windows 10, read this: https://saomaicenter.org/en/blog/access-tech/using-windows-10-ocr-feature-nvda Cuong
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To: "nvda" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2019 11:59 PM
Subject: [nvda] print screen

Say I took a scrren shot of my bank accounts , using NVDA, what are the step by step I'd use to read the screen shot using an OCR feature? If I remember correctly, NVDA had such capabilities. thanks



Re: Need help learning Braille

Jackie
 

Or you can check out Hadley School for the blind at:
www.hadley.edu .

On 2/5/19, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@gmail.com> wrote:
If you start now you can get to atbest 80 words per minute which is
slow but doable. I would talk to yoru voc rehab for classes.

Good luck.

On 5 Feb 2019, at 6:59, Sociohack AC wrote:

Hi guys!
I always had enough vision that I never felt the need of learning
Braille. I'm 22 and wish to learn it now. I need to make frequent
presentations in my class, and for now, I try and memorize all the
stuff I need to present. It's a difficult and time consuming task, I'm
thinking maybe learning Braille could help me in this regard. I see
myself in professions which might need frequent public speaking.

What do you guys suggest? Is learning Braille a good idea at this
point? How long will it take and how efficient can I get? I have read
on this forum that it is very difficult and you can't get very good at
it, if you start leaning it at an advanced age.

All feedback is welcome.

Regards





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Re: Typo3 Backend Using NvDA

Christian Schoepplein
 

Hej,

On Tue, 5 Feb 2019 15:58:28 -0000, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
I don't know what that even is. Maybe one for the developers perhaps.
Typo3 is a content management system. Its very often used by companies to build their internet or intranet site, so it is a very common CMS in commercial environments.

@Bianka: I was able to use the typo3 backend with older versions. It was not nice, but at the end I was able to work with itt. I don't know how good accessibility is in newer versions, but if you tell more about the problems you have, maybe someone is able to help.

Cheers,

Schoepp


Re: Need help learning Braille

Sarah k Alawami
 

If you start now you can get to atbest 80 words per minute which is slow but doable. I would talk to yoru voc rehab for classes.

Good luck.

On 5 Feb 2019, at 6:59, Sociohack AC wrote:

Hi guys!
I always had enough vision that I never felt the need of learning Braille. I'm 22 and wish to learn it now. I need to make frequent presentations in my class, and for now, I try and memorize all the stuff I need to present. It's a difficult and time consuming task, I'm thinking maybe learning Braille could help me in this regard. I see myself in professions which might need frequent public speaking.

What do you guys suggest? Is learning Braille a good idea at this point? How long will it take and how efficient can I get? I have read on this forum that it is very difficult and you can't get very good at it, if you start leaning it at an advanced age.

All feedback is welcome.

Regards


Re: A weird one!

Gene
 

My guess is that you had sticky keys, for some reason.  This appears to be rare now, it used to be rather common with JAWS, but as far as I know, it either didn't happen or was very rare with NVDA.  Sticky keys means that, for some reason, keys are active whether you are holding them or not.  In your case, control and alt appear to have been active.  Since those are the keys for reading in tables when browse mode is on, you probably heard the announcement because those keys were both on.  Unloading and running NVDA caused the keys to be unlocked.  Also, if you had tried pressing control perhaps twenty times fast and then alt twenty times fast, while letting NVDA run, that might have solved the problem, too.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2019 11:01 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A weird one!

I was getting the table message in Thunderbird. However, the nvda keys were not working at all and that was global. I was able to hear the names of the running applications list so I could find and stop nvda. There was no way to stop nvda except using P-View as I couldn't bring up the shutdown dialogue or the nvda menu at all.

Roger












On 2/5/2019 10:28 AM, Gene wrote:
Are you saying this happened everywhere or just in certain places?  that may be important in guessing what occurred.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2019 9:46 AM
Subject: [nvda] A weird one!

When I started my computer this morning I went to read my email and
every key I pressed nvda kept saying "not in a table cell". I have no
idea what that was about. I tried nvda key plus q to quit or restart
nvda and it kept saying the same silly thing about table cells.
Fortunately I have the Spydec P-View utility and I was able to find
nvda.exe in the list of running apps and I was able to kill it from
there. After I restarted nvda, everything was normal again! This is the
first time I've ever had this happen in several years of using nvda. It
was probably a one in a million glitch of some kind, but I'll watch and
see if it ever happens again but I doubt it will. Any ideas on what
might have happened? Just curious as I don't think this is a bug.

Roger






Re: print screen

 

Hi
If you're using Windows 10, read this: https://saomaicenter.org/en/blog/access-tech/using-windows-10-ocr-feature-nvda
Cuong
----------------
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Sao Mai Vocational and assistive center for the blind
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brice Mijares" <bricemijares@att.net>
To: "nvda" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2019 11:59 PM
Subject: [nvda] print screen


Say I took a scrren shot of my bank accounts , using NVDA, what are the step by step I'd use to read the screen shot using an OCR feature? If I remember correctly, NVDA had such capabilities. thanks


Re: need help explaining object navigation to a friend

molly the blind tech lover
 

I forgot desktop computers have a num pad key.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2019 9:40 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] need help explaining object navigation to a friend

 

Adding the caps lock key doesn't stop the numpad insert from being used.  it adds another option.  In short, you can still use it. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2019 8:31 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] need help explaining object navigation to a friend

 

Let’s assume it’s desktop layout. I’m assuming the insert key can still be used for object  navigation?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jacob Kruger
Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2019 9:27 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] need help explaining object navigation to a friend

 

Molly, FWIW, on all my desktop layout PC's, I do have the keyboard settings option turned on to also be able to use caps lock when it suits me.

 

But, have never worked with laptop layout as such, so, can't help much there.


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"Resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2019-02-05 4:15 PM, molly the blind tech lover wrote:

I’ll ask what layout he’s using.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2019 9:12 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] need help explaining object navigation to a friend

 

It isn't Practical to help unless we know if the person is using the desktop or laptop layout.  One system should be taught at a time.

 

 

There is a tutorial by Joseph Lee that teaches object navigation.  I may send my own in the not distant future. 

 

Other list members can tell you where to get Joseph Lee's tutorial.


Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2019 7:57 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] need help explaining object navigation to a friend

 

My friend has a desktop and a laptop. Not sure which one they’re using.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2019 8:55 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] need help explaining object navigation to a friend

 

Does the person have a numpad on their machine?  Which keyboard layout are they using?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, February 05, 2019 7:46 AM

Subject: [nvda] need help explaining object navigation to a friend

 

Hey guys, Molly here again.

I’m trying to help a friend with object navigation. Can the insert key be used in object navigation, or does it require just the caps lock key? I have an insert key on my laptop, but it is physically impossible to use object navigation with the insert key due to where it is located on my machine.

Any help will be greatly appreciated.

Thanks.

 

Molly


OK died in the wool JAWS user using NVDA

Steve Nutt
 

Hi all,

 

With all this talk about 64-bit NVDA would be a lot better, I have to say that NVDA, using CodeFactory’s Eloquence add-on, is more responsive for me now than JAWS.

 

Also, another piece of good news, my Windows settings in Control Panel in Windows 10 is now accessible with NVDA, whereas for ages, it wouldn’t speak any of that window.  I realise it was limited to a few configurations, but it sure was annoying at the time.  I also realise that these problems are borne of problems with UIA, rather than problems with NVDA.

 

In short, although I have, and will continue to, use JAWS for a while yet, I think that NVDA is coming on in leaps and bounds.

 

But there are one or two very silly things about NVDA.  For example, it won’t read how many messages are unread in a folder, when you Control+Y in Outlook.  This is seriously annoying to me and one reason I couldn’t use it full time.  It is visually there, and JAWS reads it, so in my view, by now, NVDA should read it too.

 

Also, flat review and object nav is not as intuitive as the JAWS cursor.  You can’t just do a screen find, and click on it.  We really need an equivalent to Hotspot Clicker in NVDA as well.

 

I keep coming back to this, because I want NVDA to be the go-to screen reader for everyone, but I think JAWS still has a little more polish than NVDA.

 

Just one guy’s opinion, don’t shoot me.

 

All the best


Steve

 

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