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Re: donating

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Don,

Yes, one-off donation = a single, one time only donation.

Compared to the other option on the page to make a regularly, monthly contribution.

Also, thank you for your support!

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 5:27 AM Don H <lmddh50@...> wrote:
Looking to donate to NVDA and see on the donation web page the verbage
make a one off donation.  What is a off donation?  Does this mean a one
time donation?






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Training and Support Manager

Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/

Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess 
Twitter: @NVAccess 


Re: Is NVDA Really Dying?

Cristóbal
 

Narrator while better than what it was, really still feels like an afterthought. I mean, Microsoft has had ample opportunity to really develop a screen reader. Be it when they partnered with Window Eyes for like 5 minutes or only until recently paying more attention to Narrator itself.
Not to mention the fact that if they wanted to, they could've bought Window Eyes outright or Vispero at any time for that matter.
Not really bashing MS even. More like I'll believe Narrator to be a viable screen reading option when it actually becomes one. Right now, outside of perhaps getting a machine up and running out of the box or maybe to try to get out of the odd situation where your main screen reader craps out on you, it's not much more than that.
Cristóbal

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 2:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA Really Dying?

Maybe someday narrator will be a great screen reader. I too hope NVDA is around for many more years.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 9:57 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA Really Dying?

You know that everything has a life span. I hope NVDA still has a lot of years ahead of itself but maybe just maybe Narrator will become a great screen reader and there will be no need for NVDA or Jaws or any other screen reader.
Right now NVDA is my screen reader of choice with Jaws being my backup that I very seldom use.


Re: python

Kerryn Gunness
 


exactly
you are right!
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 7:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] python

Kerryn are you asking because you would like to build add-ons for NVDA?  

On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 3:32 PM Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io <k_gunness=yahoo.ca@groups.io> wrote:
hi group
do you have any tutorial or book on absolute basic course on python for
beginners?
thanks





Re: Is NVDA Really Dying?

molly the blind tech lover
 

I'd say Narrator is decent. Not great, but good.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 5:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA Really Dying?

Maybe someday narrator will be a great screen reader. I too hope NVDA is around for many more years.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 9:57 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA Really Dying?

You know that everything has a life span. I hope NVDA still has a lot of years ahead of itself but maybe just maybe Narrator will become a great screen reader and there will be no need for NVDA or Jaws or any other screen reader.
Right now NVDA is my screen reader of choice with Jaws being my backup that I very seldom use.


Re: python

Jeffrey McFarland
 

Kerryn are you asking because you would like to build add-ons for NVDA?  

On Mon, Feb 4, 2019 at 3:32 PM Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io <k_gunness=yahoo.ca@groups.io> wrote:
hi group
do you have any tutorial or book on absolute basic course on python for
beginners?
thanks





Re: Windows key plus M suddenly stopped working

Lou Kolb <loukolb@...>
 

Have you ever tried repeating the command? I sometimes have this
problem, but just hitting Windows+m a second time usually does the
trick. Lou

On 2/6/19, Michael Munn <michaelrbms@gmail.com> wrote:
hi there, follow up this thread. Sometime I experience this issue also. I
would restart the Screen reader and turning it back on. or do a full
restart of your machine.
Thanks
Best Regards
Michael Munn
Michael Munn
Member: Virginia Association of Blind students
National Federation of the Blind of Virginia www.nfbv.org
Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students
National Federation of the Blind of Maryland www.nfbmd.org
Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind
www.hadley.edu




On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 6:03 PM Manoj Govindraj <manmusical9@gmail.com>
wrote:

Hi,
For some reason from last few hours, the nvda command windows key plus
M to go to the desktop has stopped working for me. When I quit nvda
and restart it again, I am able to go to the desktop. But as soon as I
click on start button, I am not able to access the desktop. I am sure
I have accidently disabled some command which is why I am facing this
issue. I use a laptop with windows 10. Would wait for your
suggestions.

Best,

Manoj

--
http://www.swar-ras.com






Re: Windows key plus M suddenly stopped working

Sarah k Alawami
 

  1. Windows m is not and nvda key. It is a windows key which means it can be used with out a screen reader, same with alt tab, windows d, windows tab, etc.
  2. Have you tried rebooting the computer or seeing if you have maybe some sort of sticky keys enabled somewhare

On 6 Feb 2019, at 15:03, Manoj Govindraj wrote:

Hi,
For some reason from last few hours, the nvda command windows key plus
M to go to the desktop has stopped working for me. When I quit nvda
and restart it again, I am able to go to the desktop. But as soon as I
click on start button, I am not able to access the desktop. I am sure
I have accidently disabled some command which is why I am facing this
issue. I use a laptop with windows 10. Would wait for your
suggestions.

Best,

Manoj

--
http://www.swar-ras.com


Re: Windows key plus M suddenly stopped working

Michael Munn
 

hi there, follow up this thread. Sometime I experience this issue also. I  would restart the Screen reader and turning it back on. or do a full restart of your machine.
Thanks 
Best Regards 
Michael Munn 
Michael Munn
Member: Virginia Association of Blind students
 National Federation of the Blind of   Virginia   www.nfbv.org
Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students
National Federation of the Blind of  Maryland www.nfbmd.org
Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind




On Wed, Feb 6, 2019 at 6:03 PM Manoj Govindraj <manmusical9@...> wrote:
Hi,
For some reason from last few hours, the nvda command windows key plus
M to go to the desktop has stopped working for me. When I quit nvda
and restart it again, I am able to go to the desktop. But as soon as I
click on start button, I am not able to access the desktop. I am sure
I have accidently disabled some command which is why I am facing this
issue. I use a laptop with windows 10. Would wait for your
suggestions.

Best,

Manoj

--
http://www.swar-ras.com




Windows key plus M suddenly stopped working

Manoj Govindraj <manmusical9@...>
 

Hi,
For some reason from last few hours, the nvda command windows key plus
M to go to the desktop has stopped working for me. When I quit nvda
and restart it again, I am able to go to the desktop. But as soon as I
click on start button, I am not able to access the desktop. I am sure
I have accidently disabled some command which is why I am facing this
issue. I use a laptop with windows 10. Would wait for your
suggestions.

Best,

Manoj

--
http://www.swar-ras.com


Re: Vocalizer Expressive 3.0

Rui Fontes
 

Theorically, no.
Except any big change in NVDA, what is not expected...

Rui Fontes


Às 20:23 de 06/02/2019, Gerardo Corripio escreveu:

n order for us to keep on working with these voices when NVDA 19.1 comes out in March, do we need to update, even though I’m already running version 4.014 of the vocalizer driver?
Gera
Enviado desde mi iPhone SE de Telcel
El 6 feb 2019, a la(s) 6:27 a. m., Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@tiflotecnia.com> escribió:

Hello!

All addons of Vocalizer Expressive 3.0 are ready to last Alpha version of NVDA...

The direct link for downloads page is:
https://vocalizer-nvda.com/downloads

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.



Re: Is NVDA Really Dying?

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Maybe someday narrator will be a great screen reader. I too hope NVDA is around for many more years.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Don H
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 9:57 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA Really Dying?

You know that everything has a life span. I hope NVDA still has a lot of years ahead of itself but maybe just maybe Narrator will become a great screen reader and there will be no need for NVDA or Jaws or any other screen reader.
Right now NVDA is my screen reader of choice with Jaws being my backup that I very seldom use.


Re: dealing with combo box expansion

Lou Kolb <loukolb@...>
 

Thanks, Ian. I hadn't noticed that but it's sure good to know. every
little bit of info helps. Lou

On 2/6/19, Ian Westerland <iwesterl@bigpond.net.au> wrote:
Hi Lou. I have also found that, for some reason, once the first letter
of a country has been pressed, when arrowing, the rest of the boxes
speak as expected. I have no explanation for this, but in many cases,
that is what happens.

Regards


Ian Westerland



On 2/7/2019 8:23 AM, Lou Kolb wrote:
I haven't tried it, but might first-letter navigation work here once
you open the box? Try pressing U for United States. Often, that gets
me there. Of course, it depends on how many countries whose names
begin with U are listed. Good luck. Lou

On 2/6/19, Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@roadrunner.com> wrote:
The standard way of opening combo boxes is alt + down arrow.  On some
combo boxes if you hear your screen reader go into edit mode, you can
just use the up or down arrows, but if doesn't work use alt + down arrow
to open and alt + up arrow to close.


On 2/6/2019 2:49 PM, Don H wrote:
Just made a donation to NVDA on their donation web page.  After
entering the amount I wanted to donate and picking using a credit card
instead of Paypal  I got to a combo box for selecting the country you
are in.  I hit the alt space bar to expand the box but when I arrowed
down one time it closed and did not give me the chance to get to the
United States. Had to have sighted help using a physical mouse to get
the combo box to the correct country.  How should I have accessed this
combo box?
Thanks




--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"









Re: python

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

No, python is an interpreted language, no compiler required.  If you have the python program, that's all you need. 

The IDE merely provides an integrated method of writing, running and editing your code, there's o real benefit to using an IDE over using a command-line stand-alone version of python other than convenience.

On 2/6/2019 4:16 PM, MAX wrote:

But don’t you need a compiler?

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Travis Siegel
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2019 12:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] python

 

You don't need to download anaconda, that's just the build environment they suggest.  I didn't use it, I just used the python 2.73 program, as that's the one I had at the time.  I would guess python 3.0 would probably work too, but I've not tried it with their course.  You don't need a special ide for using python, just a plain old text editor like notepad will work just fine.

On 2/5/2019 4:24 PM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io wrote:



hi travis

thanks man

i tried once with edx and i had to download anaconda, which is not accessible

 

 

could you email me privately?

 

email is

 

 

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2019 9:05 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] python

 

As far as I know, (and I did take a couple of their courses), the EDX courses are completely accessible.  The courses I've taken didn't have any images showing data you needed to answer a question, so that's a good thing.  The discussions can get a bit heated, but that's normal, no matter what class you're in.  But, specifically the intro to python course is accessible, I know for sure, because I took that one, along with some others, like cell phone technology, and css creation.  (I still don't have a handle on css, but ...)

On 2/4/2019 9:45 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi

 

Sorry i can not help you there about any of the book or courses it was a list from other users that they have used or been pointed to.

 

But i do see the same sort of question asked  periodically about books etc so people can either help out or maybe learn to do a add on etc.

 

if i come across where some of these links are I plan sooner or later to add them to a page.

 

Gene nz

 

Gene nz

.

On 5/02/2019 2:23 PM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io wrote:

the intro to python from edx, is it accessible?

thanks allot

 

kerryn

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 6:19 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] python

 

Hi

 

A few people on the list gave books etc you can learn from. Some are free and some are paid.

 

I put them into a doc file just in case people wanted it.

 

They are below if i come across others I will add to the list.

 

 

 

Learning Python books and courses

 

 

 

 

 

Learn python the hard way https://learnpythonthehardway.org/book/

 

A python hands on tutorial http://anh.cs.luc.edu/python/hands-on/3.1/handsonHtml/index.html

 

Python for Everybody: Exploring Data Using Python 3 https://open.umn.edu/opentextbooks/textbooks/336

 

 

And some online courses,

 

These are free, but if you want a certificate of completion, you can pay for it if you pass the course.

 

 

Introduction to Python for Data Science https://www.edx.org/course/introduction-to-python-for-data-science

 

Python for data science https://www.edx.org/course/python-for-data-science-1

 

Introduction to Python: Absolute Beginner https://www.edx.org/course/introduction-to-python-absolute-beginner-2

 

Introduction to Python: Fundamentals https://www.edx.org/course/introduction-to-python-fundamentals-2

 

Principles of Machine Learning: Python Edition https://www.edx.org/course/principles-of-machine-learning-python-edition

 

Computing in Python I: Fundamentals and Procedural Programming https://www.edx.org/course/computing-in-python-i-fundamentals-and-procedural-programming-2

 

Computing in Python II: Control Structures https://www.edx.org/course/computing-in-python-ii-control-structures-2

 

Computing in Python III: Data Structures https://www.edx.org/course/computing-in-python-iii-data-structures-2

 

Computing in Python IV: Objects & Algorithms https://www.edx.org/course/computing-in-python-iv-objects-algorithms-2

 

Visualizing Data with Python https://www.edx.org/course/data-visualization-with-python

 

Advanced Algorithmics and Graph Theory with Python https://www.edx.org/course/advanced-algorithmics-and-graph-theory-with-python

 

Analyzing Data with Python https://www.edx.org/course/data-analysis-with-python

 

Deep Learning with Python and PyTorch https://www.edx.org/course/deep-learning-with-python-and-pytorch

 

Python Basics for Data Science https://www.edx.org/course/python-basics-for-data-science

 

Machine Learning with Python: A Practical Introduction https://www.edx.org/course/machine-learning-with-python-for-edx

 

Using Python for Research https://www.edx.org/course/using-python-for-research

 

Introduction to Python: Creating Scalable, Robust, Interactive Code https://www.edx.org/course/introduction-to-python-creating-scalable-robust-interactive-code

 

Programming with Python for Data Science https://www.edx.org/course/programming-with-python-for-data-science

 

Introduction to Programming Using Python https://www.edx.org/course/introduction-to-programming-using-python

 

CS For All: Introduction to Computer Science and Python Programming https://www.edx.org/course/cs-all-introduction-computer-science-harveymuddx-cs005x-0

 

 

These are all pay courses, but if you are careful, you can buy bundles that have multiple courses in them.

 

 

Stone river elearning has 32 python courses at: https://stoneriverelearning.com/courses/category/Python

 

 

skillwise has several python courses, some of which are listed below.

 

Python Programming Bootcamp 2.0 https://www.skillwise.com/sales/python-programming-bootcamp-2-2

 

Python 3 Bootcamp Bundle https://www.skillwise.com/sales/python-bootcamp-2017-python-3

 

Machine Learning with Python Course and E-Book Bundle https://www.skillwise.com/sales/the-python-machine-learning-online-course-and-book-bundle

 

Deep Learning: Convolutional Neural Networks in Python https://www.skillwise.com/sales/deep-learning-convolutional-neural-networks-in-python

 

The Python Power Coder BONUS Bundle https://www.skillwise.com/sales/the-python-power-coder-bonus-bundle

 

Become a Professional Python Programmer https://www.skillwise.com/sales/become-a-professional-python-programmer

 

Python Tutorial: Python 100% Hands-On - Learn by Coding https://www.skillwise.com/sales/python-tutorial-python-100-hands-on-learn-by-coding

 

Pay What You Want: The Python Master Class Bundle https://www.skillwise.com/sales/pwyw-the-python-master-class-bundle

 

 

And, finally, educba.com also has python courses such as:

 

Become a Python Developer

 

Artificial Intelligence with python

python 3.5 Training

The Ultimate python Programming - Novice to Ninja

Practical Projects of python Programming

python:01 - python Fundamentals

Data Science with python

python for Beginners

Machine Learning using python

 

Now, I know the educba classes are expensive if bought separately, but if you hang out on stacksocial.com or even skillwise.com ( at times) you can purchase whole groups of training all at once.  I got a deal for all of stone river Elearning for $59, then for $99 I got the whole collection of educba classes.  (the next day, I saw it for $49) *grumble*), so if you're patient, and if you really want to learn, there's no reason why you can't learn anything you like.  This is just talking about python classes and books, but this works for just about any topic.

 

stackskills.com also has several python courses, and I got access to 1100 plus courses (all it/technology related for $19 again, from stacksocial.com

 

 

 

https://learnpythonthehardway.org/book/

 

 

Here's A Byte of Python.

 

 

https://python.swaroopch.com/

 

 

Here's Think Python.

 

 

http://www.greenteapress.com/thinkpython/html/index.html

 

 

Here's one on programming games.

 

 

http://inventwithpython.com/

 

 

Finally, here's a link somebody posted a while back to stuff Joseph

wrote up.

 

 

 

On 5/02/2019 9:31 AM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io wrote:

hi group
do you have any tutorial or book on absolute basic course on python for beginners?
thanks


--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
 
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetworkinfo/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetworkinfo/faq/nvda
 
To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
 
To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
 
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
 
To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
 
To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: dealing with combo box expansion

Ian Westerland
 

Hi Lou. I have also found that, for some reason, once the first letter of a country has been pressed, when arrowing, the rest of the boxes speak as expected. I have no explanation for this, but in many cases, that is what happens.

Regards


Ian Westerland

On 2/7/2019 8:23 AM, Lou Kolb wrote:
I haven't tried it, but might first-letter navigation work here once
you open the box? Try pressing U for United States. Often, that gets
me there. Of course, it depends on how many countries whose names
begin with U are listed. Good luck. Lou
On 2/6/19, Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@roadrunner.com> wrote:
The standard way of opening combo boxes is alt + down arrow.  On some
combo boxes if you hear your screen reader go into edit mode, you can
just use the up or down arrows, but if doesn't work use alt + down arrow
to open and alt + up arrow to close.


On 2/6/2019 2:49 PM, Don H wrote:
Just made a donation to NVDA on their donation web page.  After
entering the amount I wanted to donate and picking using a credit card
instead of Paypal  I got to a combo box for selecting the country you
are in.  I hit the alt space bar to expand the box but when I arrowed
down one time it closed and did not give me the chance to get to the
United States. Had to have sighted help using a physical mouse to get
the combo box to the correct country.  How should I have accessed this
combo box?
Thanks




--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"





Re: dealing with combo box expansion

Lou Kolb <loukolb@...>
 

I haven't tried it, but might first-letter navigation work here once
you open the box? Try pressing U for United States. Often, that gets
me there. Of course, it depends on how many countries whose names
begin with U are listed. Good luck. Lou

On 2/6/19, Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@roadrunner.com> wrote:
The standard way of opening combo boxes is alt + down arrow.  On some
combo boxes if you hear your screen reader go into edit mode, you can
just use the up or down arrows, but if doesn't work use alt + down arrow
to open and alt + up arrow to close.


On 2/6/2019 2:49 PM, Don H wrote:
Just made a donation to NVDA on their donation web page.  After
entering the amount I wanted to donate and picking using a credit card
instead of Paypal  I got to a combo box for selecting the country you
are in.  I hit the alt space bar to expand the box but when I arrowed
down one time it closed and did not give me the chance to get to the
United States. Had to have sighted help using a physical mouse to get
the combo box to the correct country.  How should I have accessed this
combo box?
Thanks




--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"





Re: python

MAX <max@...>
 

But don’t you need a compiler?

 

 

73 (Regards).

 

Max K 4 O D S.

 

I've Never Lost the Wonder.

 

Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Travis Siegel
Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2019 12:43 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] python

 

You don't need to download anaconda, that's just the build environment they suggest.  I didn't use it, I just used the python 2.73 program, as that's the one I had at the time.  I would guess python 3.0 would probably work too, but I've not tried it with their course.  You don't need a special ide for using python, just a plain old text editor like notepad will work just fine.

On 2/5/2019 4:24 PM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io wrote:



hi travis

thanks man

i tried once with edx and i had to download anaconda, which is not accessible

 

 

could you email me privately?

 

email is

 

 

 

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2019 9:05 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] python

 

As far as I know, (and I did take a couple of their courses), the EDX courses are completely accessible.  The courses I've taken didn't have any images showing data you needed to answer a question, so that's a good thing.  The discussions can get a bit heated, but that's normal, no matter what class you're in.  But, specifically the intro to python course is accessible, I know for sure, because I took that one, along with some others, like cell phone technology, and css creation.  (I still don't have a handle on css, but ...)

On 2/4/2019 9:45 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi

 

Sorry i can not help you there about any of the book or courses it was a list from other users that they have used or been pointed to.

 

But i do see the same sort of question asked  periodically about books etc so people can either help out or maybe learn to do a add on etc.

 

if i come across where some of these links are I plan sooner or later to add them to a page.

 

Gene nz

 

Gene nz

.

On 5/02/2019 2:23 PM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io wrote:

the intro to python from edx, is it accessible?

thanks allot

 

kerryn

----- Original Message -----

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Subject: Re: [nvda] python

 

Hi

 

A few people on the list gave books etc you can learn from. Some are free and some are paid.

 

I put them into a doc file just in case people wanted it.

 

They are below if i come across others I will add to the list.

 

 

 

Learning Python books and courses

 

 

 

 

 

Learn python the hard way https://learnpythonthehardway.org/book/

 

A python hands on tutorial http://anh.cs.luc.edu/python/hands-on/3.1/handsonHtml/index.html

 

Python for Everybody: Exploring Data Using Python 3 https://open.umn.edu/opentextbooks/textbooks/336

 

 

And some online courses,

 

These are free, but if you want a certificate of completion, you can pay for it if you pass the course.

 

 

Introduction to Python for Data Science https://www.edx.org/course/introduction-to-python-for-data-science

 

Python for data science https://www.edx.org/course/python-for-data-science-1

 

Introduction to Python: Absolute Beginner https://www.edx.org/course/introduction-to-python-absolute-beginner-2

 

Introduction to Python: Fundamentals https://www.edx.org/course/introduction-to-python-fundamentals-2

 

Principles of Machine Learning: Python Edition https://www.edx.org/course/principles-of-machine-learning-python-edition

 

Computing in Python I: Fundamentals and Procedural Programming https://www.edx.org/course/computing-in-python-i-fundamentals-and-procedural-programming-2

 

Computing in Python II: Control Structures https://www.edx.org/course/computing-in-python-ii-control-structures-2

 

Computing in Python III: Data Structures https://www.edx.org/course/computing-in-python-iii-data-structures-2

 

Computing in Python IV: Objects & Algorithms https://www.edx.org/course/computing-in-python-iv-objects-algorithms-2

 

Visualizing Data with Python https://www.edx.org/course/data-visualization-with-python

 

Advanced Algorithmics and Graph Theory with Python https://www.edx.org/course/advanced-algorithmics-and-graph-theory-with-python

 

Analyzing Data with Python https://www.edx.org/course/data-analysis-with-python

 

Deep Learning with Python and PyTorch https://www.edx.org/course/deep-learning-with-python-and-pytorch

 

Python Basics for Data Science https://www.edx.org/course/python-basics-for-data-science

 

Machine Learning with Python: A Practical Introduction https://www.edx.org/course/machine-learning-with-python-for-edx

 

Using Python for Research https://www.edx.org/course/using-python-for-research

 

Introduction to Python: Creating Scalable, Robust, Interactive Code https://www.edx.org/course/introduction-to-python-creating-scalable-robust-interactive-code

 

Programming with Python for Data Science https://www.edx.org/course/programming-with-python-for-data-science

 

Introduction to Programming Using Python https://www.edx.org/course/introduction-to-programming-using-python

 

CS For All: Introduction to Computer Science and Python Programming https://www.edx.org/course/cs-all-introduction-computer-science-harveymuddx-cs005x-0

 

 

These are all pay courses, but if you are careful, you can buy bundles that have multiple courses in them.

 

 

Stone river elearning has 32 python courses at: https://stoneriverelearning.com/courses/category/Python

 

 

skillwise has several python courses, some of which are listed below.

 

Python Programming Bootcamp 2.0 https://www.skillwise.com/sales/python-programming-bootcamp-2-2

 

Python 3 Bootcamp Bundle https://www.skillwise.com/sales/python-bootcamp-2017-python-3

 

Machine Learning with Python Course and E-Book Bundle https://www.skillwise.com/sales/the-python-machine-learning-online-course-and-book-bundle

 

Deep Learning: Convolutional Neural Networks in Python https://www.skillwise.com/sales/deep-learning-convolutional-neural-networks-in-python

 

The Python Power Coder BONUS Bundle https://www.skillwise.com/sales/the-python-power-coder-bonus-bundle

 

Become a Professional Python Programmer https://www.skillwise.com/sales/become-a-professional-python-programmer

 

Python Tutorial: Python 100% Hands-On - Learn by Coding https://www.skillwise.com/sales/python-tutorial-python-100-hands-on-learn-by-coding

 

Pay What You Want: The Python Master Class Bundle https://www.skillwise.com/sales/pwyw-the-python-master-class-bundle

 

 

And, finally, educba.com also has python courses such as:

 

Become a Python Developer

 

Artificial Intelligence with python

python 3.5 Training

The Ultimate python Programming - Novice to Ninja

Practical Projects of python Programming

python:01 - python Fundamentals

Data Science with python

python for Beginners

Machine Learning using python

 

Now, I know the educba classes are expensive if bought separately, but if you hang out on stacksocial.com or even skillwise.com ( at times) you can purchase whole groups of training all at once.  I got a deal for all of stone river Elearning for $59, then for $99 I got the whole collection of educba classes.  (the next day, I saw it for $49) *grumble*), so if you're patient, and if you really want to learn, there's no reason why you can't learn anything you like.  This is just talking about python classes and books, but this works for just about any topic.

 

stackskills.com also has several python courses, and I got access to 1100 plus courses (all it/technology related for $19 again, from stacksocial.com

 

 

 

https://learnpythonthehardway.org/book/

 

 

Here's A Byte of Python.

 

 

https://python.swaroopch.com/

 

 

Here's Think Python.

 

 

http://www.greenteapress.com/thinkpython/html/index.html

 

 

Here's one on programming games.

 

 

http://inventwithpython.com/

 

 

Finally, here's a link somebody posted a while back to stuff Joseph

wrote up.

 

 

 

On 5/02/2019 9:31 AM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io wrote:

hi group
do you have any tutorial or book on absolute basic course on python for beginners?
thanks


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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
 
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetworkinfo/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetworkinfo/faq/nvda
 
To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
 
To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
 
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
 
To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
 
To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Is NVDA Really Dying?

molly the blind tech lover
 

Hi.
Yes Narrator certainly works great for doing a clean install of windows. But it is not as feature rich as NVDA.

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of bob jutzi
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 3:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Is NVDA Really Dying?

I've been using NVDA for over three years and love it.

Since I am an unemployed home user, it beats forking over $90 yearly and NVDA does an awesome job supporting the software I use, iTunes, both Firefox and Thunderbird, Office 365, very well. To its credit, Narrator is nice for an accessible Windows 10 install and is making a lot of improvements; however, I also run Windows Insider and don't see it replacing a full-blown screen reader for the foreseeable future which is fine with me.



On 2/6/2019 3:40 PM, molly the blind tech lover wrote:
Well I must confess there are some major improvements coming to Narrator this year. I saw great improvement when I was formerly using the Windows insider program. Still, NVDA is my favorite. I have to admit, Narrator is fantastic when using my touchscreen.

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David
Russell
Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 3:30 PM
To: nvda <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Is NVDA Really Dying?

Hi,
Responding to Tyler and Molly who commented in digest.

- Tyler, I am using NVDA 2018.1 because it was recommended to me by someone associated with knowbility.org. I had FF-52 on my machine and am now at FF 60 something. Before, I was using an NVDA 2016 version.

- Molly, I had to chuckle at your assessment of the screen reader, Narrator. You like it, some times.. Hmmm, should I ask you to review my book? Big smile!

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Re: python

Kerryn Gunness
 


thanks again
 

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Sent: Wednesday, February 6, 2019 2:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] python

You don't need to download anaconda, that's just the build environment they suggest.  I didn't use it, I just used the python 2.73 program, as that's the one I had at the time.  I would guess python 3.0 would probably work too, but I've not tried it with their course.  You don't need a special ide for using python, just a plain old text editor like notepad will work just fine.

On 2/5/2019 4:24 PM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io wrote:

hi travis
thanks man
i tried once with edx and i had to download anaconda, which is not accessible
 
 
could you email me privately?
 
email is
 
 
 
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Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2019 9:05 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] python

As far as I know, (and I did take a couple of their courses), the EDX courses are completely accessible.  The courses I've taken didn't have any images showing data you needed to answer a question, so that's a good thing.  The discussions can get a bit heated, but that's normal, no matter what class you're in.  But, specifically the intro to python course is accessible, I know for sure, because I took that one, along with some others, like cell phone technology, and css creation.  (I still don't have a handle on css, but ...)

On 2/4/2019 9:45 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi


Sorry i can not help you there about any of the book or courses it was a list from other users that they have used or been pointed to.


But i do see the same sort of question asked  periodically about books etc so people can either help out or maybe learn to do a add on etc.


if i come across where some of these links are I plan sooner or later to add them to a page.


Gene nz


Gene nz

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On 5/02/2019 2:23 PM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io wrote:
the intro to python from edx, is it accessible?
thanks allot
 
kerryn
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Sent: Monday, February 4, 2019 6:19 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] python

Hi


A few people on the list gave books etc you can learn from. Some are free and some are paid.


I put them into a doc file just in case people wanted it.


They are below if i come across others I will add to the list.




Learning Python books and courses

 

 

 

 

 

Learn python the hard way https://learnpythonthehardwayorg/book/

 

A python hands on tutorial http://anh.cs.luc.edu/python/hands-on/3.1/handsonHtml/index.html

 

Python for Everybody: Exploring Data Using Python 3 https://open.umn.edu/opentextbooks/textbooks/336

 

 

And some online courses,

 

These are free, but if you want a certificate of completion, you can pay for it if you pass the course.

 

 

Introduction to Python for Data Science https://www.edx.org/course/introduction-to-python-for-data-science

 

Python for data science https://www.edx.org/course/python-for-data-science-1

 

Introduction to Python: Absolute Beginner https://www.edx.org/course/introduction-to-python-absolute-beginner-2

 

Introduction to Python: Fundamentals https://www.edx.org/course/introduction-to-python-fundamentals-2

 

Principles of Machine Learning: Python Edition https://www.edx.org/course/principles-of-machine-learning-python-edition

 

Computing in Python I: Fundamentals and Procedural Programming https://www.edx.org/course/computing-in-python-i-fundamentals-and-procedural-programming-2

 

Computing in Python II: Control Structures https://www.edx.org/course/computing-in-python-ii-control-structures-2

 

Computing in Python III: Data Structures https://www.edx.org/course/computing-in-python-iii-data-structures-2

 

Computing in Python IV: Objects & Algorithms https://www.edx.org/course/computing-in-python-iv-objects-algorithms-2

 

Visualizing Data with Python https://www.edx.org/course/data-visualization-with-python

 

Advanced Algorithmics and Graph Theory with Python https://www.edx.org/course/advanced-algorithmics-and-graph-theory-with-python

 

Analyzing Data with Python https://www.edx.org/course/data-analysis-with-python

 

Deep Learning with Python and PyTorch https://www.edx.org/course/deep-learning-with-python-and-pytorch

 

Python Basics for Data Science https://www.edx.org/course/python-basics-for-data-science

 

Machine Learning with Python: A Practical Introduction https://www.edx.org/course/machine-learning-with-python-for-edx

 

Using Python for Research https://www.edx.org/course/using-python-for-research

 

Introduction to Python: Creating Scalable, Robust, Interactive Code https://www.edx.org/course/introduction-to-python-creating-scalable-robust-interactive-code

 

Programming with Python for Data Science https://www.edx.org/course/programming-with-python-for-data-science

 

Introduction to Programming Using Python https://www.edx.org/course/introduction-to-programming-using-python

 

CS For All: Introduction to Computer Science and Python Programming https://www.edx.org/course/cs-all-introduction-computer-science-harveymuddx-cs005x-0

 

 

These are all pay courses, but if you are careful, you can buy bundles that have multiple courses in them.

 

 

Stone river elearning has 32 python courses at: https://stoneriverelearning.com/courses/category/Python

 

 

skillwise has several python courses, some of which are listed below.

 

Python Programming Bootcamp 2.0 https://www.skillwise.com/sales/python-programming-bootcamp-2-2

 

Python 3 Bootcamp Bundle https://www.skillwise.com/sales/python-bootcamp-2017-python-3

 

Machine Learning with Python Course and E-Book Bundle https://www.skillwise.com/sales/the-python-machine-learning-online-course-and-book-bundle

 

Deep Learning: Convolutional Neural Networks in Python https://www.skillwise.com/sales/deep-learning-convolutional-neural-networks-in-python

 

The Python Power Coder BONUS Bundle https://www.skillwise.com/sales/the-python-power-coder-bonus-bundle

 

Become a Professional Python Programmer https://www.skillwise.com/sales/become-a-professional-python-programmer

 

Python Tutorial: Python 100% Hands-On - Learn by Coding https://www.skillwise.com/sales/python-tutorial-python-100-hands-on-learn-by-coding

 

Pay What You Want: The Python Master Class Bundle https://www.skillwise.com/sales/pwyw-the-python-master-class-bundle

 

 

And, finally, educba.com also has python courses such as:

 

Become a Python Developer

 

Artificial Intelligence with python

python 3.5 Training

The Ultimate python Programming - Novice to Ninja

Practical Projects of python Programming

python:01 - python Fundamentals

Data Science with python

python for Beginners

Machine Learning using python

 

Now, I know the educba classes are expensive if bought separately, but if you hang out on stacksocial.com or even skillwise.com ( at times) you can purchase whole groups of training all at once.  I got a deal for all of stone river Elearning for $59, then for $99 I got the whole collection of educba classes.  (the next day, I saw it for $49) *grumble*), so if you're patient, and if you really want to learn, there's no reason why you can't learn anything you like.  This is just talking about python classes and books, but this works for just about any topic.

 

stackskills.com also has several python courses, and I got access to 1100 plus courses (all it/technology related for $19 again, from stacksocial.com

 

 

 

https://learnpythonthehardwayorg/book/

 

 

Here's A Byte of Python.

 

 

https://python.swaroopch.com/

 

 

Here's Think Python.

 

 

http://www.greenteapress.com/thinkpython/html/index.html

 

 

Here's one on programming games.

 

 

http://inventwithpython.com/

 

 

Finally, here's a link somebody posted a while back to stuff Joseph

wrote up.

 

 

 

On 5/02/2019 9:31 AM, Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io wrote:
hi group
do you have any tutorial or book on absolute basic course on python for beginners?
thanks



--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
 
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetworkinfo/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetworkinfo/faq/nvda
 
To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
 
To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
 
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetworkorg/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetworkinfo/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetworkinfo/faq/nvda
 
To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
 
To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


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Re: Is NVDA Really Dying?

Michael Munn
 

Yeh you are right abou the inprooment of the Narrator screen reader. there i have been using NVDA since 2010. tehe screen reader is great. It just don't have the feature that i needed. 
Thanks 
Best regards 
Michael Munn 


Re: Extra stuff announced

Gene
 

I looked up the subject in the manual.  It was a brilliant case of tautology and told me nothing.  Here is the quote:
Report Object descriptions
Uncheck this checkbox if you don't wish to have the description reported along with objects.
 
If someone would describe what information is included in the term "description," which should also be done in the manual in that entry, it would be illuminating. 
 
Gene
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Sent: Wednesday, February 06, 2019 1:18 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Extra stuff announced

Tool tips are they not. the little extras that pop up as you go down a list
etc. I like them, and can just hit control to stop them. Its faster than
turning them off and then wanting them again.
 Brian

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Subject: [nvda] Extra stuff announced


> GM all,
>
>
> When I'm looking at a list of files in a folder, as I go down the list,
> NVDA interjects extra words in addition to what's on the line. These must
> be column headers or something? Someone told me, a long time ago, where in
> NVDA I can go to turn that off. Very sorry I didn't save that note or
> write it down somewhere. Could someone please tell me again? I'll save it
> this time.
>
>
> Thank you.
>
>
> Howard
>
>
>
>