Re: Microsoft's Own Security Chief Says: STOP using Internet Explorer
Ron Canazzi
When I first got Windows 10 on this newer 64 bit system, when I used Cortana, it launched Internet Explorer--not Edge.
On 2/8/2019 8:21 PM, marcio via
Groups.Io wrote:
As far as I know, plans for Windows 10 were to replace IE with Edge, what they did, so Cortana actually uses Edge, not IE. -- They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask: "How Happy are You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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Re: Microsoft's Own Security Chief Says: STOP using Internet Explorer
Kwork
Clarissa, you may not need to use the current implementation of Edge much anyway as Microsoft will be adapting their web browser shortly to something different, with more Chromium based features.
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As for using IE, I won't get rid of it as I do find the occasional site that works best on it, even now. Waterfox, Firefox, then Chrome, have become my main browsers in that order. Usually one of those gets done what I want except for that 2% of the time when IE still works best. Travis
On 2/8/2019 6:09 PM, Clarissa Mitchell wrote:
I hardly use IE anymore at all. For me, it's either Chrome or Firefox.
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Re: NVDA, JAWS, compared to Narrator
Windows 2000 had sam. I remember using it on someone's very old computer in 2004. I think it was baught in 98? I wouldn't know as I was not around then at this person's house.
On 8 Feb 2019, at 18:09, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
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Re: Microsoft's Own Security Chief Says: STOP using Internet Explorer
Kwork
Actually mine launched Edge by default. Not sure why it launched IE for others.
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Travis
On 2/8/2019 6:23 PM, Clarissa Mitchell wrote:
I hadn't thought of that.
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Re: NVDA, JAWS, compared to Narrator
Kwork
Ease of Access was correct. Under Utilities, if I remember right. Win+u would bring up the Utilities screen, which turned on Narrator by default. Travis
On 2/8/2019 1:45 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 03:42 PM, molly the blind tech lover wrote:
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Re: NVDA, JAWS, compared to Narrator
Kwork
Narrator in Windows 7 was a joke. Not even worth talking about in my opinion. It could read its own introduction screen and not much more. LOL! Microsoft Anna was a decent enough text to speech voice, but she worked better in NVDA as a SAPI 5 voice rather than windows' joke of a screenreader they called Narrator. Brian V is correct. The name of the Windows native screenreader should probably be changed. Otherwise we'll be educating people for years who remember the joke that first debuted, to the best of my knowledge, in Windows xp. Travis
On 2/8/2019 1:42 PM, molly the blind
tech lover wrote:
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Re: Microsoft's Own Security Chief Says: STOP using Internet Explorer
Gene
What do you mean by the management is almost
nonexistent? You can move bookmarks around in Firefox. I assume you
can in Chrome as well. Instead of assuming something isn't available or
doesn't exist, ask here or get some sort of documentation or tutorial.
You'll save yourself a lot of trouble.
Open the bookmarks menu with alt b.
Move to a bookmark in Firefox. Open the
context menu. Down arrow to cut. Press enter.
Then move to where you want the bookmark to
be. Open the context menu and find paste. Press enter.
The bookmark has been moved.
However, I almost never move or organize bookmarks
in Firefox because of the very good search for bookmarks feature. If you
are interested, I'll describe it.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: MAX
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2019 10:01 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft's Own Security Chief Says: STOP using
Internet Explorer The management of favorites in chrome and Firefox is almost nonexistent. I use explorer to update and manage my favorites file. Why can’t programmers leave things alone. Especially things that work.
73 (Regards).
Max K 4 O D S.
I've Never Lost the Wonder.
Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
You may not find ways that work as well to use those sites. You may continue using Internet Explorer with them. It’s the browser you use as the main browser that is the issue, not the browser you use for occasional accessibility purposes with this or that site.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Rosemarie
ChavarrFrom: nvda@nvda.groups.io
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf
Of Clarissa Mitchell
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Re: Problems With NVDA
hi gene and all again.
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whats the best memory for my system? i turn on my laptop in the morning and use it till the midnight. then i turn it off until tomorrow. i only use my system for, browsing, notepad plus plus, playing audio files with mpchc and sometimes editing files with mp3 direct cut or converting video files in to audio. i also had libreoffice previously and wish to install it again, but using it is difficult specially for me who want to read and edit Islamic books with it. but for browsing the web, when javascript is enabled, nvda most times is slow and even silent when i use it for example in quora websites and other sites that require javascript. even nvda is silent and does not work and does not say anything when i use arrow keys, brows mode does not work and i only hear the name of website without anything else! i heard that i cant upgrade my cpu, but my system has 2core cpu and 2.5 gb of ram. this is the reason that i sometimes the best version of nvda which i use forever is 2017.1 and sometimes told 2017.2 or maybe 2016.4! because 2017.2 has one important bug fix which i really need to preserve my numeroussettings, but it has the issue which i mentioned in firefox. also, 2017.1 is very better than other version for me in using firefox, i believe at least since 2016.1 or even maybe 2015.4! what should i do in this case?
On 2/8/19, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:
But again, you don't say if you have run 32bit Windows or just 64bit --
By God, were I given all the seven heavens with all they contain in order that I may disobey God by depriving an ant from the husk of a grain of barley, I would not do it. imam ali
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Re: Microsoft's Own Security Chief Says: STOP using Internet Explorer
MAX <max@...>
The management of favorites in chrome and Firefox is almost nonexistent. I use explorer to update and manage my favorites file. Why can’t programmers leave things alone. Especially things that work.
73 (Regards).
Max K 4 O D S.
I've Never Lost the Wonder.
Antique Electronics Site: http://www.angelfire.com/electronic/funwithtubes/
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Friday, February 08, 2019 8:39 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft's Own Security Chief Says: STOP using Internet Explorer
You may not find ways that work as well to use those sites. You may continue using Internet Explorer with them. It’s the browser you use as the main browser that is the issue, not the browser you use for occasional accessibility purposes with this or that site.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Rosemarie ChavarrFrom: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Clarissa Mitchell
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Re: Is NVDA Really Dying?
i ment that i hate narrator of windows xp (i mean the voice of
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microsoft sam and its aweful quality. i did not talk about my idea about narrator of windows ten which i never heard it voice and its quality in using and reading english documents. if someone can help me to record one sample text with different voices of windows ten or eight, please email me off list.
On 2/8/19, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote:
On Thu, Feb 7, 2019 at 10:49 PM, zahra wrote:Which has absolutely, positively nothing to do with Narrator as implemented --
By God, were I given all the seven heavens with all they contain in order that I may disobey God by depriving an ant from the husk of a grain of barley, I would not do it. imam ali
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Re: Microsoft's Own Security Chief Says: STOP using Internet Explorer
Gene
You may not find ways that work as well to use
those sites. You may continue using Internet Explorer with them.
It’s the browser you use as the main browser that is the issue, not the browser
you use for occasional accessibility purposes with this or that site.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Rosemarie ChavarrFrom: nvda@nvda.groups.io
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Clarissa Mitchell Sent: Friday, February 8, 2019 5:10 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft's Own Security Chief Says: STOP using Internet Explorer I hardly use IE anymore at all. For me, it's either Chrome or Firefox. There were one or two site-specific functions I still had to use IE for because of one thing or another, but I'm going to find a way to access those sites with Chrome, which is my main browser. I'm still working on that. I haven't used IE as my main browser in ages. I don't understand why people are even still using that browser; it's outdated and, at least on my more recent computers, slow as a snail! To me, there's really not that much difference in using one of the other browsers, from a screen reader standpoint anyway. You can still use a lot of the same navigation commands. I don't know about Edge; I haven't used it much, but as far as I can tell, Chrome and Firefox work great with NVDA. On 2/8/19, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote: > Article that came out today in The Telegraph newspaper in the UK: > > Stop using Internet Explorer, warns Microsoft's own security > chief ( > https://www.telegraph.co.uk/technology/2019/02/08/stop-using-internet- > explorer-warns-microsofts-security-chief/ > ) > > If that doesn't convince people that the shelf life of IE is now > expired, nothing will. > -- > > Brian *-* Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 > > *A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the > need for illusion is deep.* > > ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back > > > >
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Re: NVDA, JAWS, compared to Narrator
Rosemarie Chavarria
What voice did windows 2000 have for narrator? I jumped from XP to windows 7 and that system had Microsoft Anna.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Friday, February 8, 2019 3:12 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA, JAWS, compared to Narrator
all windows from xp had narator. But to be honest, narator on anything before 10 wasn't much good, aparently windows 2000 had narator and aparently it was usable then but who knows.
On 9/02/2019 9:06 AM, molly the blind tech lover wrote:
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Re: NVDA, JAWS, compared to Narrator
Rosemarie Chavarria
In windows XP the voice for narrator was Microsoft Sam.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of molly the blind tech lover
Sent: Friday, February 8, 2019 3:29 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA, JAWS, compared to Narrator
Didn’t Narrator used to use something called Microsoft sam? I only know that because people have made hilarious youtube videos about Microsoft sam.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
all windows from xp had narator. But to be honest, narator on anything before 10 wasn't much good, aparently windows 2000 had narator and aparently it was usable then but who knows.
On 9/02/2019 9:06 AM, molly the blind tech lover wrote:
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Re: NVDA, JAWS, compared to Narrator
On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 08:14 PM, Don Risavy, Jr. wrote:
just did that last night unless there’s a new file?That's the point, there were two different updates last night secondary to conditions I never thought could or would happen. It's just easier to re-download so that you will have what I know is the latest version. That version also removes a step from the Extract All process, so now all you need to do is just Extract All once the ZIP file is on your desktop. -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep. ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back
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Re: NVDA, JAWS, compared to Narrator
Chris Shook <chris0309@...>
THanks for the information Brian.
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Re: Microsoft's Own Security Chief Says: STOP using Internet Explorer
On Fri, Feb 8, 2019 at 08:16 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
So why does the Cortana voice inquiry launch Internet Explorer by default after a Windows install?It hasn't in my observation since Microsoft did the forced plural marriage between Cortana, Edge, & Bing in 2016. -- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep. ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back
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Re: Microsoft's Own Security Chief Says: STOP using Internet Explorer
Rosemarie Chavarria
I stopped using internet explorer too. Now I use either waterfox or chrome.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Clarissa Mitchell Sent: Friday, February 8, 2019 5:10 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft's Own Security Chief Says: STOP using Internet Explorer I hardly use IE anymore at all. For me, it's either Chrome or Firefox. There were one or two site-specific functions I still had to use IE for because of one thing or another, but I'm going to find a way to access those sites with Chrome, which is my main browser. I'm still working on that. I haven't used IE as my main browser in ages. I don't understand why people are even still using that browser; it's outdated and, at least on my more recent computers, slow as a snail! To me, there's really not that much difference in using one of the other browsers, from a screen reader standpoint anyway. You can still use a lot of the same navigation commands. I don't know about Edge; I haven't used it much, but as far as I can tell, Chrome and Firefox work great with NVDA. On 2/8/19, Brian Vogel <britechguy@gmail.com> wrote: Article that came out today in The Telegraph newspaper in the UK:
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Re: Microsoft's Own Security Chief Says: STOP using Internet Explorer
As far as I know, plans for Windows 10 were to replace IE with Edge,
what they did, so Cortana actually uses Edge, not IE.
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However, IE is still there, for a reason that heavens only knows. Maybe if they remove it they'll break something on Windows? I don't know, but well... Em 08/02/2019 23:16, Ron Canazzi
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Re: Microsoft's Own Security Chief Says: STOP using Internet Explorer
Clarissa Mitchell
I hadn't thought of that.
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On 2/8/19, Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@roadrunner.com> wrote:
This is interesting. So why does the Cortana voice inquiry launch
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Re: Microsoft's Own Security Chief Says: STOP using Internet Explorer
Ron Canazzi
This is interesting. So why does the Cortana voice inquiry launch Internet Explorer by default after a Windows install? Now I changed it since then, but how many people take the time to do so?
On 2/8/2019 6:50 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Article that came out today in The Telegraph newspaper in the UK: -- They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes. They ask: "How Happy are You?" I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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