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Re: NVDA and tablets Shaun Everiss #55757 What about leaving it in a hot car and not realising I left it on, that killed it entirely, needed a new one. toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On 12/02/2019 11:14 AM, molly the blind tech lover wrote: Lol. I can't go five minutes without my computer. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Shook Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 5:03 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and tablets Worsed thing I ever did to a cumputer, not counting getting a virus a couple of times, was spilled water on it when I was stoned on pain meds from having my wisdom teeth pulled. A week without computer while taking College courses is not fun.
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Re: Fn Key Issues Nimer Jaber #55756 You can change the function of whichever key you wish to with sharpkeys. As an example, I often change the function of the printscreen key to an applications key on Lenovo laptops. One work-around if a user does not wish to adjust the setting with the hotkey or in the bios is to change the function of the multimedia keys to perform f1-f12 functions. Thanks. toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 3:32 PM Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote: But as stated that is for IO devices. The external keyboard although an input device I don't think can have its function key changed in such a way as the user is wanting. I would google though and see if you can come up with anything per the model of your keyboard. On 11 Feb 2019, at 13:57, Nimer Jaber wrote: Hello, Often times, a machine may have a hotkey combination which will change the behavior of the function key. When this is not the case, there should be a BIOS setting. Yes, Sarah, technically you probably could use sharpkeys but there really isn't a need as this behavior can be changed. Thanks. On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 2:46 PM Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote: Before the original poster does that, can they use sharp keys, I'm thinking no, but it never heard to ask. I've personally never heard of such a case as the original poser has. But with technology you just never know. On 11 Feb 2019, at 11:25, molly the blind tech lover wrote: Hello. I think you may need to go in to the bios settings of your machine to change the behavior of the function key -- Cordially, Nimer Jaber Please take the time to read this signature completely as it contains some information about the email you have just read and all attachments contained within as well as some valuable resources and methods for contacting me if you have any questions or wish to talk. The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient, please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil or criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine is up to you. Thanks. Registered Linux User 529141. http://counter.li.org/ To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP and above, please click here: http://www.nvda-project.org You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news. To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at (970) (658-0358) and I will do my best to respond to you promptly. Thank you, and have a great day! -- Cordially, Nimer Jaber Please take the time to read this signature completely as it contains some information about the email you have just read and all attachments contained within as well as some valuable resources and methods for contacting me if you have any questions or wish to talk. The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient, please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil or criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine is up to you. Thanks. Registered Linux User 529141. http://counter.li.org/ To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP and above, please click here: http://www.nvda-project.org You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news. To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at (970) (658-0358) and I will do my best to respond to you promptly. Thank you, and have a great day!
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Re: Intro & Question Sarah k Alawami #55755 I believe there is a developers list. If you go to your groups list, and then click nvda, find t eh @ symbol and click the link, it will look like an email address but is not, you will be taken to the main page. Join the dev sub group and you should be good to go. toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On 11 Feb 2019, at 14:17, molly the blind tech lover wrote: Hey! You’ll totally love NVDA. It’s awesome ❤ From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Larry Honaker Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2019 11:46 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Intro & Question Greetings All, I am beginning the process of learning NVDA and as a former programmer am interested in trying my hand at a little Python programming. I downloaded Python 3.7 and executed the Idle app. The Python shell came up, but I do not see any prompts with NVDA or Jaws. What am I missing and how do I proceed? Any guidance is welcome. Thanks! Lh Larry W. Honaker Kc8pdx@...
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Re: Fn Key Issues Sarah k Alawami #55754 But as stated that is for IO devices. The external keyboard although an input device I don't think can have its function key changed in such a way as the user is wanting. I would google though and see if you can come up with anything per the model of your keyboard. toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On 11 Feb 2019, at 13:57, Nimer Jaber wrote: Hello, Often times, a machine may have a hotkey combination which will change the behavior of the function key. When this is not the case, there should be a BIOS setting. Yes, Sarah, technically you probably could use sharpkeys but there really isn't a need as this behavior can be changed. Thanks. On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 2:46 PM Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote: Before the original poster does that, can they use sharp keys, I'm thinking no, but it never heard to ask. I've personally never heard of such a case as the original poser has. But with technology you just never know. On 11 Feb 2019, at 11:25, molly the blind tech lover wrote: Hello. I think you may need to go in to the bios settings of your machine to change the behavior of the function key -- Cordially, Nimer Jaber Please take the time to read this signature completely as it contains some information about the email you have just read and all attachments contained within as well as some valuable resources and methods for contacting me if you have any questions or wish to talk. The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient, please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil or criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine is up to you. Thanks. Registered Linux User 529141. http://counter.li.org/ To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP and above, please click here: http://www.nvda-project.org You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news. To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at (970) (658-0358) and I will do my best to respond to you promptly. Thank you, and have a great day!
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Re: Exporting bookmarks to a file? Kevin Cussick #55753 Gene, sit back and keep your hands off the keyboard. toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On 11/02/2019 18:44, Gene wrote: Again, doing what you accuse me of. A message filled with nothing but invective, accusations, and attacks. Not one substantive example. Not one quote from one message. And wild exageration. This list has something like a thousand members. Something like four people who don't like me for various reasons is hardly a multitude. Please, either respond substantivbelie or stop the flames, which have no substance except your lothing of me. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian Vogel Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 12:41 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] Exporting bookmarks to a file? On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 01:09 PM, Gene wrote: You have disliked me irrationally for a long time. I am civil to you and you always attack me and start debates first. No, Gene, my dislike and that expressed by a multitude of others at this point is entirely rational and entirely based in your own behavior, which has now been very accurately and comprehensively characterized. You will not take any constructive criticism and always insist on lashing out, in the most ugly way and at great length, at anyone who dares offer any. This has nothing whatsoever to do with me, and everything, my dear, to do with you.
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List Moderation #adminnotice Nimer Jaber #55752 Hello everyone, This is a note that Gene is no longer a moderator on this list. I would like to thank Gene for his service to this list and its members over the past year. I have reached out to those of you who expressed interest in serving as part of the moderation team. However, if you are interested, please send me an e-mail at nimerjaber1@... and I will be making my final decision as to new moderatons by the end of the week. Thanks. -- Cordially, Nimer Jaber Please take the time to read this signature completely as it contains some information about the email you have just read and all attachments contained within as well as some valuable resources and methods for contacting me if you have any questions or wish to talk. The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient, please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil or criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine is up to you. Thanks. Registered Linux User 529141. http://counter.li.org/ To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP and above, please click here: http://www.nvda-project.org You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news. To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at (970) (658-0358) and I will do my best to respond to you promptly. Thank you, and have a great day!
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Re: Intro & Question molly the blind tech lover #55751 Hey! You’ll totally love NVDA. It’s awesome ❤ toggle quoted messageShow quoted text From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Larry Honaker Sent: Tuesday, February 5, 2019 11:46 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Intro & Question Greetings All, I am beginning the process of learning NVDA and as a former programmer am interested in trying my hand at a little Python programming. I downloaded Python 3.7 and executed the Idle app. The Python shell came up, but I do not see any prompts with NVDA or Jaws. What am I missing and how do I proceed? Any guidance is welcome. Thanks! Lh Larry W. Honaker Kc8pdx@...
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Re: NVDA and tablets molly the blind tech lover #55750 Lol. I can't go five minutes without my computer. toggle quoted messageShow quoted text -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Shook Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 5:03 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and tablets Worsed thing I ever did to a cumputer, not counting getting a virus a couple of times, was spilled water on it when I was stoned on pain meds from having my wisdom teeth pulled. A week without computer while taking College courses is not fun.
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Re: Intent of any post being misinterpreted Kevin Cussick #55749 agreed, I used to read a message then get all fired up, and type an angry response and then later on I would read the mails back again and regret firing off the angry mail. toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On 11/02/2019 08:30, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.I wrote: Hi folks, as somebody who has been around text based messages for more years than I care to admit to, there is one basic truism which still can cause issues. The statement of facts or giving of advice can appear very abrupt and direct when it was not meant to be. Most of us when speaking to each other use inflection and such like to create the spirit of what is being said and how it is to be taken. Sadly many of us cannot see body language, so even that is no good in person. However apart from what I still consider as these new fangled emogees, many do not know what they mean nor in fact use them. Thus when you see an apparently abrupt response or interpret something as a castigation or a reprimand, please go away, have a drink, think about it and realise it was just the facts being expressed. Nothing wrong with anything you said. Even a simple comment like: If you go back a day you will see this answered is often seen as sarcasm, when its really not meant that way. If you cannot go back or do not know how to view the archive, merely state this and somebody will help, I'm sure. OK I'll go back to sleep now! Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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Intro & Question Larry Honaker <kc8pdx@...> #55748 Greetings All, I am beginning the process of learning NVDA and as a former programmer am interested in trying my hand at a little Python programming. I downloaded Python 3.7 and executed the Idle app. The Python shell came up, but I do not see any prompts with NVDA or Jaws. What am I missing and how do I proceed? Any guidance is welcome. Thanks! Lh Larry W. Honaker Kc8pdx@...
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Re: NVDA and tablets Chris Shook <chris0309@...> #55747 Worsed thing I ever did to a cumputer, not counting getting a virus a couple of times, was spilled water on it when I was stoned on pain meds from having my wisdom teeth pulled. A week without computer while taking College courses is not fun.
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Re: Fn Key Issues Nimer Jaber #55746 Hello, Often times, a machine may have a hotkey combination which will change the behavior of the function key. When this is not the case, there should be a BIOS setting. Yes, Sarah, technically you probably could use sharpkeys but there really isn't a need as this behavior can be changed. Thanks. toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On Mon, Feb 11, 2019 at 2:46 PM Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@...> wrote: Before the original poster does that, can they use sharp keys, I'm thinking no, but it never heard to ask. I've personally never heard of such a case as the original poser has. But with technology you just never know. On 11 Feb 2019, at 11:25, molly the blind tech lover wrote: Hello. I think you may need to go in to the bios settings of your machine to change the behavior of the function key -- Cordially, Nimer Jaber Please take the time to read this signature completely as it contains some information about the email you have just read and all attachments contained within as well as some valuable resources and methods for contacting me if you have any questions or wish to talk. The message above is intended for the recipient to whom it was addressed. If you believe that you are not the intended recipient, please notify me via reply email and destroy all copies of this correspondence. Action taken as a result of this email or its contents by anyone other than the intended recipient(s) may result in civil or criminal charges. I have checked this email and all corresponding attachments for security threats. However, security of your machine is up to you. Thanks. Registered Linux User 529141. http://counter.li.org/ To find out about a free and versatile screen reader for windows XP and above, please click here: http://www.nvda-project.org You can follow @nimerjaber on Twitter for the latest technology news. To contact me, you can reply to this email or you may call me at (970) (658-0358) and I will do my best to respond to you promptly. Thank you, and have a great day!
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Re: NVDA and tablets molly the blind tech lover #55745 My machine broke several times during the insider builds. Everything from having to do a system restore, to the machine making and odd noise, to losing sound. I had to completely reinstall windows. It fixed everything. ----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Shook Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 4:46 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and tablets I usually only download the stable builds because I'm afraid of breaking something and not being able to fix it, LOL. Not to mention if the computer stops talking, I'm up the creek.
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Re: latest accessible version of tor browser? hurrikennyandopo ... #55744 Hi dan The latest version of the TOR browser is not accessible it used to be. at present after it is setup it will read the title bar but no more not even the menus or what is on the page it's self. You would have to go back at least a full version either 7 or 6 of it which was. I would only pop into it now and again and at present will state on the web page of mine it is not accessible now. Gene nz toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On 12/02/2019 10:33 AM, Dan Beaver wrote: `Sorry for butting in but what is theTOR browser? I haven't heard of it. How does it compare to Chrome and Firefox with NVDA?` `Thanks.` `Dan` On 2/11/2019 4:23 PM, Gene wrote: I believe I have it. If no one else sends a link, I'll check. If I do, I'll send it to my Dropbox account and send you a link. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: The Wolf Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 1:48 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] latest accessible version of tor browser? can any one send me the latest version of tor browser that works with nvda? thanks Hank -- check out my song on youtube https://youtu.be/YeWgx2LRu7Y -- Dan Beaver (KC4DOY) -- Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884 How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/ To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.
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Re: Firefox fails with Google spread sheets Sarah k Alawami #55743 I use chromewith sheets all the time and it works, under windows anyway, not under mac os. And what do you mean fierfox fails? Do you mean it thros an error? If so what is said error? If it does not what happens, does the browser lock up, does the browser crash? Does the page not load? toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On 11 Feb 2019, at 12:31, Marco Oros wrote: Hi! I have a question, but I don't know, that It is because of NVDA. Maybe yes. I would like to use Google sheets, because I'll need It to new work. Problem is, that very often Firefox fails. Do You know this fail notification. I have a question. Have You similar problems with It? I have tried to use Google Chrome, but It isn't possible with NVDA and Jaws is difficult to use, I think new versions. Thank You for Your help. Marco Oros
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Re: latest accessible version of tor browser? Gene #55742 It's a browser that connects to a remote server, sending information to you from that server. it makes what sites you go to much harder for people to trace if they want to see where you browse. For example, if you want to look at a specific site, the Tor (spelling) browser doesn't connect to it using your Internet company. It uses your Internet company to connect to a Tor server. The Tor server then connects to the site you want and sends the information to you. This also helps people in countries where there is Internet censorship connect with sites that are blocked by the country. The Tor browser is also used to connect to sites on the Dark Web, but I don't know technically why you can connect with that browser and not with other ones. Gene toggle quoted messageShow quoted text ----- Original Message ----- From: Dan Beaver Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 3:33 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] latest accessible version of tor browser? `Sorry for butting in but what is theTOR browser? I haven't heard of it. How does it compare to Chrome and Firefox with NVDA?` `Thanks.` `Dan` On 2/11/2019 4:23 PM, Gene wrote: I believe I have it. If no one else sends a link, I'll check. If I do, I'll send it to my Dropbox account and send you a link. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: The Wolf Sent: Monday, February 11, 2019 1:48 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] latest accessible version of tor browser? can any one send me the latest version of tor browser that works with nvda? thanks Hank -- check out my song on youtube https://youtu.be/YeWgx2LRu7Y -- Dan Beaver (KC4DOY)
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Re: latest accessible version of tor browser? Sarah k Alawami #55741 If you have a way to set up location on the computer you can just run your regular browser through the toor proxi. I lost the instructions as that was 3 years ago for me. Failing that you could set up a proxi on a remote VPS and run your regular browser that way. I did this for several months and although it was slow, it worked fine. Take care toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On 11 Feb 2019, at 11:48, The Wolf wrote: can any one send me the latest version of tor browser that works with nvda? thanks Hank -- check out my song on youtube https://youtu.be/YeWgx2LRu7Y
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Re: NVDA and tablets Chris Shook <chris0309@...> #55740 Thanks Jean, I guess I'll just have to wait and see if Microsoft fixes the problem in version 1903.
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Re: Fn Key Issues Sarah k Alawami #55739 Before the original poster does that, can they use sharp keys, I'm thinking no, but it never heard to ask. I've personally never heard of such a case as the original poser has. But with technology you just never know. toggle quoted messageShow quoted text On 11 Feb 2019, at 11:25, molly the blind tech lover wrote: Hello. I think you may need to go in to the bios settings of your machine to change the behavior of the function key
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Re: NVDA and tablets Chris Shook <chris0309@...> #55738 I usually only download the stable builds because I'm afraid of breaking something and not being able to fix it, LOL. Not to mention if the computer stops talking, I'm up the creek.
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