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Re: List Moderation #adminnotice

Brian K. Lingard
 

Dear Sarah & List:

I love your no flaming policy! Have survived a few flame wars on the two lists I used to manage, now only manage one. Had to ask an Air General at Cheyenne Mtn., CO to borrow a herd of his B-52 to water-bomb the flames. Sure got wet, but we put out every single spark!

Brian K. Lingard VE3YI, Ab2JI, B. A., C. T. M.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: February 12, 2019 8:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] List Moderation #adminnotice

 

If I were running the list you all would hate me.

1 don't stay off topic, ever.
2 no flaming.
3. If you do stray or flame you will be giving 3 strikes and you will be kicked out for good.

That's how I run all of my lists and trust me, it works.

Take care

On 12 Feb 2019, at 14:33, Chris Shook wrote:

My apologies as well.
I'll try and stay on topic in the future.

_


Re: Spreadsheet editing software recommendations - open office, or libre office?

Antony Stone
 

How can you tell that a licence key you buy on eBay has genuinely been
recycled and is not also being used on other machines?

Excel was released (first for the Mac) in 1985. The first really successful
spreadsheet application (so successful that it helped to sell the Apple II and
other pre-IBM PC machines) was VisiCalc, released six years earlier in 1979.


Regards,


Antony.

On Monday 18 February 2019 at 15:42:09, Brian Vogel wrote:

The recycled license market is readily accessible on eBay. There are other
sites, too, but that's the one I use.

Excel is the granddaddy of all electronic spreadsheet programs. Of course
it can be used to create and edit spreadsheets - it practically invented
them.
--
Software development can be quick, high quality, or low cost.

The customer gets to pick any two out of three.

Please reply to the list;
please *don't* CC me.


Re: Golden Cursor question

 

On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 09:52 AM, Steve Nutt wrote:
What I didn’t know is you can move the mouse with the keyboard without GC involved.
Well, barring the use of accessibility software (and, yes, I count the built-in option of Mouse Keys), you can't.

I also imagine that the use of Mouse Keys with a screen reader using desktop layout would be a fraught proposition.
 
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Re: Golden Cursor question

Steve Nutt
 

Hi Joseph,

 

Yes, I knew the routing commands, but I got the impression that there was commands to move the mouse without GC installed.  Thanks for confirming there isn’t, not within NVDA anyway.

 

I am even more convinced that GC should be part of the core program, not an add-on.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: 18 February 2019 14:38
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Golden Cursor question

 

Hi Ralph and others,

I don’t think that’s the command set Steve is looking for. Rather, I think what he is after is mouse routing commands that comes with NVDA as follows:

  • NVDA+Numpad divide (NVDA+Shift+M in laptop layout): route mouse to where you’re focused on or control you’re reviewing (navigator object)
  • NVDA+Numpad multiply (NVDA+Shift+N in laptop layout): move navigator object to where the mouse is.

 

There is no built-in command set to move mouse around with a keyboard (apart from Golden Cursor), but mouse keys might help (using Numpad to move the mouse around, a built-in Ease of Access feature in Windows).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ralf Kefferpuetz
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2019 6:30 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Golden Cursor question

 

Key commands

• Control+NVDA+L: view saved mouse positions for an application if any.

• Shift+NVDA+l: save a tag or a label for the current mouse position in the currently focused application.

• Windows+NVDA+C: change mouse movement unit.

• Windows+NVDA+R: toggle mouse restriction.

• Windows+NVDA+S: toggle reporting of mouse position in pixels.

• Windows+NVDA+J: move mouse to a specific x and y position.

• Windows+NVDA+P: report mouse position.

• Windows+NVDA+M: sswitch mouse arrows on or off.

• Windows+NVDA+arrow keys (or just arrow keys if mouse arrows is on): move mouse.

Note: these gestures can be reassigned via NVDA's Input Gestures dialog under Golden Cursor category.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Montag, 18. Februar 2019 11:47
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Golden Cursor question

 

Hello Jean,

 

So what are the mouse movement keys via the keyboard then?  I’m sorry I can’t find them.

 

Thanks.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 18 February 2019 08:47
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Golden Cursor question

 

You can move the mouse with the keyboard now.  You can't move it as precisely.  I don't have an opinion about whether the Golden Cursor features should be incorporated into the source code.  But your implication that the mouse can't be moved without the Golden Cursor is not correct.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Steve Nutt

Sent: Monday, February 18, 2019 2:27 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Golden Cursor question

 

Jean,

 

I think the whole Golden Cursor thing should be in NVDA to be honest.  The ability to move the mouse using the keyboard has been in screen readers, since the invention of Windows.

 

Supernova has it, System Access has it, JAWS has it, Window-Eyes was best at it, and so on.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 17 February 2019 20:08
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Golden Cursor question

 

The search feature should, I think, be in NVDA, not in the Golden Cursor. This is important funcionality and is too important to depend on a user downloading an add-on to have it available.

 

Gene 

----- Original Message -----

From: Steve Nutt

Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2019 1:58 PM

Subject: [nvda] Golden Cursor question

 

Hi,

 

In my efforts to find out if Golden Cursor is as good as the mouse with JAWS, I’d say not quite.  Let me explain.

 

I just downloaded it, and there seems to be no way to search for a string of text within GC and have the mouse land on that text, so you can just click it, without routing, saving positions, etc.

 

Could this possibly be added?  A Mouse Search in NVDA?  I use Search in JAWS cursor all the time, and it moves the mouse to where I want it.

 

Or am I really stupid and missing it?

 

Someone suggested that GC does more than the JAWS cursor, but I don’t really see that.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

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Re: Golden Cursor question

Steve Nutt
 

I know those commands, those are for Golden Cursor.  What I didn’t know is you can move the mouse with the keyboard without GC involved.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ralf Kefferpuetz
Sent: 18 February 2019 14:30
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Golden Cursor question

 

Key commands

• Control+NVDA+L: view saved mouse positions for an application if any.

• Shift+NVDA+l: save a tag or a label for the current mouse position in the currently focused application.

• Windows+NVDA+C: change mouse movement unit.

• Windows+NVDA+R: toggle mouse restriction.

• Windows+NVDA+S: toggle reporting of mouse position in pixels.

• Windows+NVDA+J: move mouse to a specific x and y position.

• Windows+NVDA+P: report mouse position.

• Windows+NVDA+M: sswitch mouse arrows on or off.

• Windows+NVDA+arrow keys (or just arrow keys if mouse arrows is on): move mouse.

Note: these gestures can be reassigned via NVDA's Input Gestures dialog under Golden Cursor category.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Montag, 18. Februar 2019 11:47
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Golden Cursor question

 

Hello Jean,

 

So what are the mouse movement keys via the keyboard then?  I’m sorry I can’t find them.

 

Thanks.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 18 February 2019 08:47
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Golden Cursor question

 

You can move the mouse with the keyboard now.  You can't move it as precisely.  I don't have an opinion about whether the Golden Cursor features should be incorporated into the source code.  But your implication that the mouse can't be moved without the Golden Cursor is not correct.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Steve Nutt

Sent: Monday, February 18, 2019 2:27 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Golden Cursor question

 

Jean,

 

I think the whole Golden Cursor thing should be in NVDA to be honest.  The ability to move the mouse using the keyboard has been in screen readers, since the invention of Windows.

 

Supernova has it, System Access has it, JAWS has it, Window-Eyes was best at it, and so on.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 17 February 2019 20:08
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Golden Cursor question

 

The search feature should, I think, be in NVDA, not in the Golden Cursor. This is important funcionality and is too important to depend on a user downloading an add-on to have it available.

 

Gene 

----- Original Message -----

From: Steve Nutt

Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2019 1:58 PM

Subject: [nvda] Golden Cursor question

 

Hi,

 

In my efforts to find out if Golden Cursor is as good as the mouse with JAWS, I’d say not quite.  Let me explain.

 

I just downloaded it, and there seems to be no way to search for a string of text within GC and have the mouse land on that text, so you can just click it, without routing, saving positions, etc.

 

Could this possibly be added?  A Mouse Search in NVDA?  I use Search in JAWS cursor all the time, and it moves the mouse to where I want it.

 

Or am I really stupid and missing it?

 

Someone suggested that GC does more than the JAWS cursor, but I don’t really see that.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

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android studio problem with NVDA

Diego Ricardo Matos <diegoricardomatosm4@...>
 

Hello guys!
I'm using android studio but I'm having problems with NVDA.
It turns out that the compiler and messages are not read by NVDA, with
java access bridge enabled and working.

What can I do?
I'm running android studio 3.2, with NVDA 2018.4.1 on windows 10 64 bit.


Re: Spreadsheet editing software recommendations - open office, or libre office?

 

The recycled license market is readily accessible on eBay.  There are other sites, too, but that's the one I use.

Excel is the granddaddy of all electronic spreadsheet programs.  Of course it can be used to create and edit spreadsheets - it practically invented them.
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A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: Golden Cursor question

 

Hi Ralph and others,

I don’t think that’s the command set Steve is looking for. Rather, I think what he is after is mouse routing commands that comes with NVDA as follows:

  • NVDA+Numpad divide (NVDA+Shift+M in laptop layout): route mouse to where you’re focused on or control you’re reviewing (navigator object)
  • NVDA+Numpad multiply (NVDA+Shift+N in laptop layout): move navigator object to where the mouse is.

 

There is no built-in command set to move mouse around with a keyboard (apart from Golden Cursor), but mouse keys might help (using Numpad to move the mouse around, a built-in Ease of Access feature in Windows).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ralf Kefferpuetz
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2019 6:30 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Golden Cursor question

 

Key commands

• Control+NVDA+L: view saved mouse positions for an application if any.

• Shift+NVDA+l: save a tag or a label for the current mouse position in the currently focused application.

• Windows+NVDA+C: change mouse movement unit.

• Windows+NVDA+R: toggle mouse restriction.

• Windows+NVDA+S: toggle reporting of mouse position in pixels.

• Windows+NVDA+J: move mouse to a specific x and y position.

• Windows+NVDA+P: report mouse position.

• Windows+NVDA+M: sswitch mouse arrows on or off.

• Windows+NVDA+arrow keys (or just arrow keys if mouse arrows is on): move mouse.

Note: these gestures can be reassigned via NVDA's Input Gestures dialog under Golden Cursor category.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Montag, 18. Februar 2019 11:47
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Golden Cursor question

 

Hello Jean,

 

So what are the mouse movement keys via the keyboard then?  I’m sorry I can’t find them.

 

Thanks.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 18 February 2019 08:47
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Golden Cursor question

 

You can move the mouse with the keyboard now.  You can't move it as precisely.  I don't have an opinion about whether the Golden Cursor features should be incorporated into the source code.  But your implication that the mouse can't be moved without the Golden Cursor is not correct.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Steve Nutt

Sent: Monday, February 18, 2019 2:27 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Golden Cursor question

 

Jean,

 

I think the whole Golden Cursor thing should be in NVDA to be honest.  The ability to move the mouse using the keyboard has been in screen readers, since the invention of Windows.

 

Supernova has it, System Access has it, JAWS has it, Window-Eyes was best at it, and so on.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 17 February 2019 20:08
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Golden Cursor question

 

The search feature should, I think, be in NVDA, not in the Golden Cursor. This is important funcionality and is too important to depend on a user downloading an add-on to have it available.

 

Gene 

----- Original Message -----

From: Steve Nutt

Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2019 1:58 PM

Subject: [nvda] Golden Cursor question

 

Hi,

 

In my efforts to find out if Golden Cursor is as good as the mouse with JAWS, I’d say not quite.  Let me explain.

 

I just downloaded it, and there seems to be no way to search for a string of text within GC and have the mouse land on that text, so you can just click it, without routing, saving positions, etc.

 

Could this possibly be added?  A Mouse Search in NVDA?  I use Search in JAWS cursor all the time, and it moves the mouse to where I want it.

 

Or am I really stupid and missing it?

 

Someone suggested that GC does more than the JAWS cursor, but I don’t really see that.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

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Re: Golden Cursor question

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

Key commands

• Control+NVDA+L: view saved mouse positions for an application if any.

• Shift+NVDA+l: save a tag or a label for the current mouse position in the currently focused application.

• Windows+NVDA+C: change mouse movement unit.

• Windows+NVDA+R: toggle mouse restriction.

• Windows+NVDA+S: toggle reporting of mouse position in pixels.

• Windows+NVDA+J: move mouse to a specific x and y position.

• Windows+NVDA+P: report mouse position.

• Windows+NVDA+M: sswitch mouse arrows on or off.

• Windows+NVDA+arrow keys (or just arrow keys if mouse arrows is on): move mouse.

Note: these gestures can be reassigned via NVDA's Input Gestures dialog under Golden Cursor category.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Steve Nutt
Sent: Montag, 18. Februar 2019 11:47
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Golden Cursor question

 

Hello Jean,

 

So what are the mouse movement keys via the keyboard then?  I’m sorry I can’t find them.

 

Thanks.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 18 February 2019 08:47
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Golden Cursor question

 

You can move the mouse with the keyboard now.  You can't move it as precisely.  I don't have an opinion about whether the Golden Cursor features should be incorporated into the source code.  But your implication that the mouse can't be moved without the Golden Cursor is not correct.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Steve Nutt

Sent: Monday, February 18, 2019 2:27 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Golden Cursor question

 

Jean,

 

I think the whole Golden Cursor thing should be in NVDA to be honest.  The ability to move the mouse using the keyboard has been in screen readers, since the invention of Windows.

 

Supernova has it, System Access has it, JAWS has it, Window-Eyes was best at it, and so on.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 17 February 2019 20:08
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Golden Cursor question

 

The search feature should, I think, be in NVDA, not in the Golden Cursor. This is important funcionality and is too important to depend on a user downloading an add-on to have it available.

 

Gene 

----- Original Message -----

From: Steve Nutt

Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2019 1:58 PM

Subject: [nvda] Golden Cursor question

 

Hi,

 

In my efforts to find out if Golden Cursor is as good as the mouse with JAWS, I’d say not quite.  Let me explain.

 

I just downloaded it, and there seems to be no way to search for a string of text within GC and have the mouse land on that text, so you can just click it, without routing, saving positions, etc.

 

Could this possibly be added?  A Mouse Search in NVDA?  I use Search in JAWS cursor all the time, and it moves the mouse to where I want it.

 

Or am I really stupid and missing it?

 

Someone suggested that GC does more than the JAWS cursor, but I don’t really see that.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

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Re: Spreadsheet editing software recommendations - open office, or libre office?

molly the blind tech lover
 

Can spread sheets be edited with excel? I want to create a spread sheet.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Shook
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2019 8:30 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Spreadsheet editing software recommendations - open
office, or libre office?

Brian,
Where can I find these recycled licenses?


Re: column titles in Excel

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

With jaws I could select b, c, d and press insert v  then go down and select column titles. Then when I changed rows those 3 titles would be announced.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Steve Nutt
Sent: Monday, February 18, 2019 1:34 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] column titles in Excel

 

Hi Brian,

 

This is the recommended method for JAWS as well, and the one I tend to use.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: 17 February 2019 23:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] column titles in Excel

 

I generally find the easiest thing to do is to actually assign formal row and/or column titles as part of the spreadsheet itself.

See: Excel - Assigning a Title Row or Column (MS-Word Format)
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A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

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Re: Question on Chrome, Re: [nvda] Can we pass graphics while navigating web pages using NVDA?

 

On Mon, Feb 18, 2019 at 03:15 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
What would be nice is to be able to cut and paste the uncluttered text so one can keep it in a normal text file
You can certainly do this with the page that results from using the Chrome Reader mode.  After looking at the result of Chrome's native reader mode and the Reader add-on I far prefer the result from the former to the latter, particularly if cut and paste is desired.  The Reader add-on retains far more links along with other web objects like edit boxes, etc., that make no sense to me to have kept in the first place.
 
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A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: Microsoft refresh tool.

 

Windows 10 licenses, while they may be recorded as part of your Microsoft Account, are directly linked to the unique identifier of the hardware licensed.  You could hand that computer on to someone else tomorrow and they could do completely clean installs of Windows 10 to their heart's content even if all they used on the machine was a local account.

Windows 10, by design, will progress through Feature Updates throughout its service life.  The licence key is tied to the OS, not any specific Feature Update version of same.

If you really want your Windows 10 license key, along with those for virtually anything installed on your machine, Belarc Advisor can get that for you.

I have not ever used the Refresh option, but Microsoft's descriptions of the various Reset and other options have been accurate, so I imagine the Refresh description is, too.
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A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: Spreadsheet editing software recommendations - open office, or libre office?

Chris Shook
 

Brian,
Where can I find these recycled licenses?


Re: Spreadsheet editing software recommendations - open office, or libre office?

 

These days, with the advent of the entirely legal "recycled license market" coming out of the EU, I'd recommend buying the real thing for a song.

I've now upgraded at least 6 machines with Office 2016 Pro Plus for $10 US or less per machine using recycled licenses.

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A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: Spreadsheet editing software recommendations - open office, or libre office?

 

the only free and opensource softwares which i found are libreoffice
and openoffice and i did not find anything else until now.
but libreoffice is more compatible with microsoft file formats.

On 2/18/19, Jacob Kruger <jacob@blindza.co.za> wrote:
While am currently sticking to open office calc when it comes to working
with things like .xls/.xlsx spreadhseet files, partly since libre office
seemed not to cooperate so nicely with NVDA, just wanted to ask if there
are any specific reasons/methods/means that some of you guys would
recommend one or the other, or another free alternative?


TIA

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."



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were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali


Spreadsheet editing software recommendations - open office, or libre office?

Jacob Kruger
 

While am currently sticking to open office calc when it comes to working with things like .xls/.xlsx spreadhseet files, partly since libre office seemed not to cooperate so nicely with NVDA, just wanted to ask if there are any specific reasons/methods/means that some of you guys would recommend one or the other, or another free alternative?


TIA

Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."


Microsoft refresh tool.

 

I bought this  Acer laptop, 256GB SSD, frankly because that was all I could afford, I make money from book sales, after all. Anyway, I assume that it will come with a lot of bloat on it. ACER driver managers, and more ACER junk. I've never bought an ACER laptop before, usually I've gone with HP and or DELL because they are cheap, but this one was a deal so, I had a few questions regarding the Microsoft refresh tool.


1. Does it really do as Microsoft claims? Remove apps not by Microsoft? I'm looking to do a complete refresh when I unpack the laptop today.

2. I have a digital license tied to my Microsoft account for windows 10, but just in case, does anyone know how I can back up my product key for entering after I do the refresh? Also, will the digital license adapt itself to different home versions? Like, for example, if the laptop has 1809?


Re: Hey dear NVDA users Quary about NVDA with excel.

Meet modi
 

hello friends
Sorry or let reply.
First i clear
I am useing MS ofice 10 and also I chack on MS ofice 2016 same error accard wih me and i can't find its solution
Thanks and regards
Meet modi


Re: Golden Cursor question

Steve Nutt
 

Hello Jean,

 

So what are the mouse movement keys via the keyboard then?  I’m sorry I can’t find them.

 

Thanks.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 18 February 2019 08:47
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Golden Cursor question

 

You can move the mouse with the keyboard now.  You can't move it as precisely.  I don't have an opinion about whether the Golden Cursor features should be incorporated into the source code.  But your implication that the mouse can't be moved without the Golden Cursor is not correct.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Steve Nutt

Sent: Monday, February 18, 2019 2:27 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Golden Cursor question

 

Jean,

 

I think the whole Golden Cursor thing should be in NVDA to be honest.  The ability to move the mouse using the keyboard has been in screen readers, since the invention of Windows.

 

Supernova has it, System Access has it, JAWS has it, Window-Eyes was best at it, and so on.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 17 February 2019 20:08
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Golden Cursor question

 

The search feature should, I think, be in NVDA, not in the Golden Cursor. This is important funcionality and is too important to depend on a user downloading an add-on to have it available.

 

Gene 

----- Original Message -----

From: Steve Nutt

Sent: Sunday, February 17, 2019 1:58 PM

Subject: [nvda] Golden Cursor question

 

Hi,

 

In my efforts to find out if Golden Cursor is as good as the mouse with JAWS, I’d say not quite.  Let me explain.

 

I just downloaded it, and there seems to be no way to search for a string of text within GC and have the mouse land on that text, so you can just click it, without routing, saving positions, etc.

 

Could this possibly be added?  A Mouse Search in NVDA?  I use Search in JAWS cursor all the time, and it moves the mouse to where I want it.

 

Or am I really stupid and missing it?

 

Someone suggested that GC does more than the JAWS cursor, but I don’t really see that.

 

All the best

 

Steve

 

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