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Re: Clipspeak does not work

Clare Page <clare.page@...>
 

Hi!
I use ClipSpeak all the time, and have never had the error you describe,
Brian, not even in Microsoft Word. Either I'm simply lucky, or there is some
problem with your copy of Word, although I can't guess what that would be.
Do any other ClipSpeak users have the "insufficient memory" error mentioned
below?
Bye for now!
From Clare

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I thought it might have been fixed but its still not able to paste into word

documents without the following error occurring.

There is insufficient memory. Save the document now

This seems not to care which version of Word I'm using, even old versions
like Word XP show this error.
Very odd.
I guess its a side issue due to how it checks clipboard contents. One has
to remember that pasting from say wordpad as I tried to Word is probably
dealing with both the normal and office clipboard which may have some
bearing on the problem so its back to the dumb add on unless anyone has any
fixes for the current add on.
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Clipspeak does not work

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I thought it might have been fixed but its still not able to paste into word documents without the following error occurring.

There is insufficient memory. Save the document now

This seems not to care which version of Word I'm using, even old versions like Word XP show this error.
Very odd.
I guess its a side issue due to how it checks clipboard contents. One has to remember that pasting from say wordpad as I tried to Word is probably dealing with both the normal and office clipboard which may have some bearing on the problem so its back to the dumb add on unless anyone has any fixes for the current add on.
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Re: CTRL-C doesn't work for copying text when NVDA is on

 

hi gene.
is there any solution that i can set nvda to read clipboard regardless
of is the text is long or not?
i believe nvda cant read more than 1000 or 1024 characters, but i wish
to have a solution that nvda can reads anything in the clipboard, even
i want to select and copy a large book with hundreds of pages.
in this case, i can simply overcome the problem of not supporting
sayAll in libreoffice.
i can copy and peist my document in firefox or there is one option in
libreoffice that i can temporarily open my document and read in
firefox which has supporting for sayAll, but i need openning two
programs at the same time, one libreoffice and one another program,
firefox, which cause more system usage and power consumpsion.
thanks for any of your help, God bless you!

On 2/20/19, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
The way to do it is to incorporate the add-on that announces this into the
source of the program or modify it and place it in source. or if desired,
though it is probably redeveloping the weel, developing the ability
independently in the screen-reader. A lot of users will never know about
the add-on.

The designers and developers refuse to do so, last I knew, because of the
claim, incorrect, that the announcement of when text is copied, cut, or
pasted, cannot be reliably known for screen-readers. I have stated before,
from years of use with JAWS and I know that System Access does as well, that
this can be accurately done. The add-on, is usually accurate as well. I'm
not sure if it is every single time but I have never or almost never seen an
error after something like eight months or more of regular use.

Perhaps others verifying this would finally convince developers that this
can be accurately done. This is an important ability and should be added
yesterday..
From: Jackie
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 11:37 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] CTRL-C doesn't work for copying text when NVDA is on


Well, weirdly enough, it does do this in Firefox, but not in Word,
Notepad, etc. They really should make that consistent, & they should
make it suchvvv that announcement could be toggled on/off as desired.

On 2/20/19, marcio via Groups.Io <marcinhorj21@...>
wrote:
I can confirm that, at least without an add-on to do it, NVDA doesn't
announce anything when we perform such operations (cut, copy, paste
etc.).
What did you do to have these announcements?

Cheers,
Marcio
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Em 20/02/2019 14:13, Jackie escreveu:
It does announce "copy to clipboard".

On 2/20/19, Roger Stewart <paganus2@...> wrote:
I've been using NVDA since 2012 and never had this problem. However,
NVDA will not announce anything like "copied to clipboard" so you might
not think anything has happened, but it does still work normally. When
you paste the text, you'll find it all worked.
Roger











On 2/20/2019 10:54 AM, Ryan Boudwin wrote:
Hey everyone,

I recently swapped from JAWS to NVDA because it seems to work better
for me for certain web applications that I use for work.

However, whenever NVDA is running I have noticed that CTRL-C no longer
works for copying text to the clipboard.

Has anyone else ever had this problem? Is there a command I need to
bind to a different keystroke to make the normal copy functionality
work again? It works normally whenever NVDA is not running.

Best regards,

Ryan Boudwin







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Re: CTRL-C doesn't work for copying text when NVDA is on

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Not sure about Windows 7, its working for me. Don't throw the thing away it might be something simple!
Incidentally I devices are very accessible with voice over. I was genuinely surprised how well they work. One might suspect they had nicked a few ideas from nvda as well, such as phonetics etc.
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Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 4:56 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] CTRL-C doesn't work for copying text when NVDA is on



Hey there: Have you went to the Adonis site. There’s an add on called clip speak. it tells you that you copied text to the clipboard. or you paste text elsewhere. I’m using my I pad because my computer windows 7 does not work anymore. You can operate it if you are a sighted person who doesn’t need audio speech. I will have to bite the bullet and get win ten.


Re: CTRL-C doesn't work for copying text when NVDA is on

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Have you also tried closing command windows using the mouse on the little x?
That can be a fun way to confuse a screenreader user. Instant no screenreader.
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Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 11:22 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] CTRL-C doesn't work for copying text when NVDA is on


I am not using any addons. I checked the github and the issue Quentin
mentioned is exactly what is happening. Here's the link to the known issue:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/1464

I am a low vision user and still use the mouse for some tasks; I've
confirmed the CTRL-C issue is only a problem with text I have selected with
the mouse, just as reported in issue 1464 above.

Thanks for the help everyone.

On Wed, Feb 20, 2019 at 3:21 PM Quentin Christensen <quentin@...>
wrote:

Did you mention in one email further in the thread that copying with
control+c is working in Word but not Firefox? Do you happen to be
selecting text with the mouse? There is a known issue where if you select
text with the mouse on the web, pressing CONTROL+C doesn't work with NVDA
running. In that case, what you can do is either right click or press the
applications key to open the context menu, and choose "copy".

Quentin.

On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 3:57 AM Ryan Boudwin <ryanboudwin@...>
wrote:

Hey everyone,

I recently swapped from JAWS to NVDA because it seems to work better for
me for certain web applications that I use for work.

However, whenever NVDA is running I have noticed that CTRL-C no longer
works for copying text to the clipboard.

Has anyone else ever had this problem? Is there a command I need to bind
to a different keystroke to make the normal copy functionality work again?
It works normally whenever NVDA is not running.

Best regards,

Ryan Boudwin

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Re: CTRL-C doesn't work for copying text when NVDA is on

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And of course just to be complete, these commands do not work in command windows, you have to use the menus.
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Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 10:20 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] CTRL-C doesn't work for copying text when NVDA is on


Did you mention in one email further in the thread that copying with
control+c is working in Word but not Firefox? Do you happen to be
selecting text with the mouse? There is a known issue where if you select
text with the mouse on the web, pressing CONTROL+C doesn't work with NVDA
running. In that case, what you can do is either right click or press the
applications key to open the context menu, and choose "copy".

Quentin.

On Thu, Feb 21, 2019 at 3:57 AM Ryan Boudwin <ryanboudwin@...> wrote:

Hey everyone,

I recently swapped from JAWS to NVDA because it seems to work better for
me for certain web applications that I use for work.

However, whenever NVDA is running I have noticed that CTRL-C no longer
works for copying text to the clipboard.

Has anyone else ever had this problem? Is there a command I need to bind
to a different keystroke to make the normal copy functionality work again?
It works normally whenever NVDA is not running.

Best regards,

Ryan Boudwin


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Re: CTRL-C doesn't work for copying text when NVDA is on

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Its because in Firefox its n nvda command, as it cannot be done in firefox for the sighted with the same result.
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Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 5:37 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] CTRL-C doesn't work for copying text when NVDA is on


Well, weirdly enough, it does do this in Firefox, but not in Word,
Notepad, etc. They really should make that consistent, & they should
make it suchvvv that announcement could be toggled on/off as desired.

On 2/20/19, marcio via Groups.Io <marcinhorj21@...> wrote:
I can confirm that, at least without an add-on to do it, NVDA doesn't
announce anything when we perform such operations (cut, copy, paste etc.).
What did you do to have these announcements?

Cheers,
Marcio
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Em 20/02/2019 14:13, Jackie escreveu:
It does announce "copy to clipboard".

On 2/20/19, Roger Stewart <paganus2@...> wrote:
I've been using NVDA since 2012 and never had this problem. However,
NVDA will not announce anything like "copied to clipboard" so you might
not think anything has happened, but it does still work normally. When
you paste the text, you'll find it all worked.
Roger











On 2/20/2019 10:54 AM, Ryan Boudwin wrote:
Hey everyone,

I recently swapped from JAWS to NVDA because it seems to work better
for me for certain web applications that I use for work.

However, whenever NVDA is running I have noticed that CTRL-C no longer
works for copying text to the clipboard.

Has anyone else ever had this problem? Is there a command I need to
bind to a different keystroke to make the normal copy functionality
work again? It works normally whenever NVDA is not running.

Best regards,

Ryan Boudwin







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Re: CTRL-C doesn't work for copying text when NVDA is on

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Only on certain applications, natively, since its using its own routine, for example to copy the raw characters of a web page not what windows might do.
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Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 5:13 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] CTRL-C doesn't work for copying text when NVDA is on


It does announce "copy to clipboard".

On 2/20/19, Roger Stewart <paganus2@...> wrote:
I've been using NVDA since 2012 and never had this problem. However,
NVDA will not announce anything like "copied to clipboard" so you might
not think anything has happened, but it does still work normally. When
you paste the text, you'll find it all worked.
Roger











On 2/20/2019 10:54 AM, Ryan Boudwin wrote:
Hey everyone,

I recently swapped from JAWS to NVDA because it seems to work better
for me for certain web applications that I use for work.

However, whenever NVDA is running I have noticed that CTRL-C no longer
works for copying text to the clipboard.

Has anyone else ever had this problem? Is there a command I need to
bind to a different keystroke to make the normal copy functionality
work again? It works normally whenever NVDA is not running.

Best regards,

Ryan Boudwin





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Re: CTRL-C doesn't work for copying text when NVDA is on

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Yes I do feel more care should have been taken in the original design of nvda. We had numerous discussions in the early days, with certain developers saying the sighted see no change, but that is not strictly true, as the see the files appear, and we have to cursor about to know that, so this should have been in nvda earlier on. OK at first it was not possible to do it, but later it obviously was as there are add ons that almost get it right.
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Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 1:32 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] CTRL-C doesn't work for copying text when NVDA is on


There are two add-ons. There is an old one that just speaks the aaction. there is a newer one that speaks that action itself. When it doesn't detect a change, it announces no change, when copying or cutting. When you paste, if there is nothing to paste, it announces something like no text on clipboard. This should be changed to something like nothing in clipboard because of its use to paste files as well as text.

I can't tell you how unnecessarily annoying it is not to have the announcement, to copy many files or a folder to the clipboard, try to paste them somewhere else, only to have the previous files placed in the wrong location because for some reason copy didn't work and there was no way to know that. It is not necessarily at all convenient, finding and deleting many files copied to the wrong place that were already pasted to the right place in the previous operation. As I said, this is an important feature.
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From: Kwork
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 11:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] CTRL-C doesn't work for copying text when NVDA is on


But do any of these add-ons speak the result of the action itself, or
just the keyboard command when pressed?

When I tried one, I realized that it would say "copied to clipboard,"
whether the action had been completed successfully or not. When I used
to use JAWS, if the program said "copied" after pressing ctrl+c, I knew
I could believe it. With the NVDA add-on, it spoke the action, but
didn't know for sure if it worked or not, which many times it did not.
If this has been somehow fixed, that would be a great aid as NVDA's
silence can be somewhat irritating until verifying what's on the
clipboard with NVDA+c. I'd love it to not only echo the key action.

Another thing I'd like to see in NVDA is for the first part of a large
block of text being read out when NVDA+c is pressed. As of now it tells
you the number of characters, but that's all. If you are moving large
portions of text at a time, it would be nice to have some confirmation
of at least some of it, maybe the first 100 characters or so. Even the
full text would be ok as anything past what you'd want to hear can be
easily silenced by the user with the control key.

Travis

On 2/20/2019 10:30 AM, Mallard wrote:

Hello there,


Is it tha the command doesn't work, or that its result isn't announced?


There are some add-ons to make NVDA announce when text is copied to
clipboard or pasted.


The one I use is called


FakeClipboardannouncement.


hth, ciao,

Ollie





Re: CTRL-C doesn't work for copying text when NVDA is on

 

Seriously? I haven't used it long enough to see such a behavior.
I do use, however, Fake Clipboard Announcement. It's light and will be there to tell me everything I need to know. Sometimes it's even fun to press any of the said commands just to hear NVDA saying anything. LOL

Cheers,
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Em 21/02/2019 05:39, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io escreveu:

I stopped using the add onyou describe that is intelligent as it kept on throwing up low memory errors in word and was very slow.
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Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 5:56 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] CTRL-C doesn't work for copying text when NVDA is on


Using fake clipboard announcement it does exactly what you described.
That is, it speaks the command regardless it has worked or not.
However, there is an add-on which also does exactly what you described
after the first, I just can't remember its name right now.

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Em 20/02/2019 14:49, Kwork escreveu:
But do any of these add-ons speak the result of the action itself, or
just the keyboard command when pressed?

When I tried one, I realized that it would say "copied to clipboard,"
whether the action had been completed successfully or not. When I used
to use JAWS, if the program said "copied" after pressing ctrl+c, I
knew I could believe it. With the NVDA add-on, it spoke the action,
but didn't know for sure if it worked or not, which many times it did
not. If this has been somehow fixed, that would be a great aid as
NVDA's silence can be somewhat irritating until verifying what's on
the clipboard with NVDA+c. I'd love it to not only echo the key action.

Another thing I'd like to see in NVDA is for the first part of a large
block of text being read out when NVDA+c is pressed. As of now it
tells you the number of characters, but that's all. If you are moving
large portions of text at a time, it would be nice to have some
confirmation of at least some of it, maybe the first 100 characters or
so. Even the full text would be ok as anything past what you'd want to
hear can be easily silenced by the user with the control key.

Travis

On 2/20/2019 10:30 AM, Mallard wrote:

Hello there,


Is it tha the command doesn't work, or that its result isn't announced?


There are some add-ons to make NVDA announce when text is copied to
clipboard or pasted.


The one I use is called


FakeClipboardannouncement.


hth, ciao,

Ollie





















Re: CTRL-C doesn't work for copying text when NVDA is on

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No its when people start redefining things themselves or use one of these keyboard shortcut definition programs that used to be popular at one time.
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Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 7:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] CTRL-C doesn't work for copying text when NVDA is on


Also, just to offer another perspective, I have yet to see any screen reader "hijack" the vast majority of Windows keyboard commands, and absolutely none have ever touched Copy (CTRL+C), Cut (CTRL+X), or Paste (CTRL+V).

They very seldom "hijack" program keyboard shortcuts, either.
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Re: CTRL-C doesn't work for copying text when NVDA is on

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You will need to modify the manifest file when the next version of nvda comes out I suspect, since it might get disabled otherwise.


Remember though that its a dumb add on, merely doing a key mapping monitor and speaking a string when you match its mask.

Its also very easy to fiddle with.

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Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 8:52 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] CTRL-C doesn't work for copying text when NVDA is on


The only place I could find a download link for the Fake Clipboard Announcement add-on is this page: https://jeff.tdrealms.com/index.php?page=NVDA
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Re: CTRL-C doesn't work for copying text when NVDA is on

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I stopped using the add onyou describe that is intelligent as it kept on throwing up low memory errors in word and was very slow.
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Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 5:56 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] CTRL-C doesn't work for copying text when NVDA is on


Using fake clipboard announcement it does exactly what you described.
That is, it speaks the command regardless it has worked or not.
However, there is an add-on which also does exactly what you described
after the first, I just can't remember its name right now.

Cheers,
Marcio
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Em 20/02/2019 14:49, Kwork escreveu:
But do any of these add-ons speak the result of the action itself, or
just the keyboard command when pressed?

When I tried one, I realized that it would say "copied to clipboard,"
whether the action had been completed successfully or not. When I used
to use JAWS, if the program said "copied" after pressing ctrl+c, I
knew I could believe it. With the NVDA add-on, it spoke the action,
but didn't know for sure if it worked or not, which many times it did
not. If this has been somehow fixed, that would be a great aid as
NVDA's silence can be somewhat irritating until verifying what's on
the clipboard with NVDA+c. I'd love it to not only echo the key action.

Another thing I'd like to see in NVDA is for the first part of a large
block of text being read out when NVDA+c is pressed. As of now it
tells you the number of characters, but that's all. If you are moving
large portions of text at a time, it would be nice to have some
confirmation of at least some of it, maybe the first 100 characters or
so. Even the full text would be ok as anything past what you'd want to
hear can be easily silenced by the user with the control key.

Travis

On 2/20/2019 10:30 AM, Mallard wrote:

Hello there,


Is it tha the command doesn't work, or that its result isn't announced?


There are some add-ons to make NVDA announce when text is copied to
clipboard or pasted.


The one I use is called


FakeClipboardannouncement.


hth, ciao,

Ollie









Re: CTRL-C doesn't work for copying text when NVDA is on

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Yes but one has to remember this is not smart in that it tells you the windows command but does not mean that its worked. Some software does not allow cut and paste. I notice that protected pdf files is one of those.

Also there are often alternatives for using programs where the windows command is not available using screen and global navigation via the keypad and a multi press of nvda and another key.
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Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 5:30 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] CTRL-C doesn't work for copying text when NVDA is on


Hello there,


Is it tha the command doesn't work, or that its result isn't announced?


There are some add-ons to make NVDA announce when text is copied to clipboard or pasted.


The one I use is called


FakeClipboardannouncement.


hth, ciao,

Ollie



Re: CTRL-C doesn't work for copying text when NVDA is on

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We would need to know the software you are trying to use the command in.
I'm not certain but I recall that Jaws has been known to add things like this at times confusing the heck out of normal keyboard users.
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Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 4:54 PM
Subject: [nvda] CTRL-C doesn't work for copying text when NVDA is on


Hey everyone,

I recently swapped from JAWS to NVDA because it seems to work better for me
for certain web applications that I use for work.

However, whenever NVDA is running I have noticed that CTRL-C no longer
works for copying text to the clipboard.

Has anyone else ever had this problem? Is there a command I need to bind to
a different keystroke to make the normal copy functionality work again? It
works normally whenever NVDA is not running.

Best regards,

Ryan Boudwin



Re: having problems with re capture demo page

Gene
 

If you try, be careful to first fill in and submit the captcha on the first page.  Then refresh the page and see if you can fill in the information again and submit the form without filling out the captcha and submitting it again.  As I recall, I couldn't submit it from the second page because no fields were available to get a audio captcha nor to fill it in nor submit it so I just submitted the forum.  this was unexpected, that there was no way to get a challenge or fill it out so I want to make sure that my recollection of what happened is emphasized.  You may have a different experience, mine being only one tiame with one site.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 12:34 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] having problems with re capture demo page

I think I've tried it as well, but no joy. However will try again, let's see what I get :)

Cheers,
Marcio
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Em 21/02/2019 03:22, Gene escreveu:
You can experiment with refreshing the page with f5.  I don't use captchas often enough to have had this problem more than once.  I think what happened was odd.  I think that I filled in the information in the form I had filled in previously, then I looked for the captcha.  As I recall, I didn't find it but when I submitted the form, it was accepted, as though refreshing the page had allowed the correctly solved captcha to be registered.  Those with the problem can try this. 
 
I had correctly solved the captcha the first time before refreshing the page.  I wasn't told that because the response was the possible spam announcement.
 
Gene
----- Original message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 11:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] having problems with re capture demo page

So, what we might do? Do you have any workaround for this?

Cheers,
Marcio
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Em 21/02/2019 02:22, Sarah k Alawami escreveu:

That's the thing. Sometimes if you do that once you might still get the too many accounts thing, or even if you don't do it at all. Iv'e had both on different sites.

On 20 Feb 2019, at 17:04, Gene wrote:

Allowing popups may have helped, I don't know.  Whatever the case, this will happen if you submit too many incorrect entries.  It will happen also for perhaps the reason stated in the below message.  But I do know that if you submit too many incorrect solutions, you won't be able to submit more for a certain amount of time.  So if you can do so at first, and then you can't. trying later will again allow you to do so.  Therefore, if an audio challenge is difficult, you may want to try submitting a solution once and then getting another one rather than trying multiple times with the current one.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] having problems with re capture demo page

I just did this 2 days ago when signing up for wwv, (no that is not a mis type) and did not get the issue. using safari, or in this case, used safari. I have seen this before. I was urged to allow pop ups by the tech support guys when I last got this. i did that and it worked. I then turned on my blocker afterwords.

On 20 Feb 2019, at 7:39, Buddy Brannan wrote:

This is not correct at all.

I have only one Google account, and have been getting this same message, mind you only when selecting “Get an audio challenge”, on both Chrome and Safari. Google have clearly broken something here.

On Feb 19, 2019, at 4:52 PM, Kenny <kwashingtonbox@...> wrote:

The browser you're using has multiple Google accounts cookied. You have to visit the Google.com page and logout/remove any extra Google accounts. Then make sure only your main Google account is cookied on that browser.



On 2/19/2019 4:48 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi guys

I was asked on another list if people are having problems with re capture in this case he sent me a demo page and nvda reports unavailable in all editable sections it reads out the section. also down where you check the check box to say you are not a bot or what ever it is as soon as you check it it takes you to another page where it wants you to try and pass either a text bassed one or a audio one but then gives you a message saying

Part of the message below. He gets this on other websites with capture .

What happens is that I get a message that says we can't process your query because a computer on your network might be sending automated queries. I don't believe anything here is doing that. I've read that one of the ways reCAPTCHA uses to try to tell that we're not a robot is to look at your mouse movements. But of course I'm not using a mouse so it might look like I'm a robot. Maybe some people might agree but let's not go there right now.

Is it on there side and they have broken it? I also tried some other browsers same sort of results with the latest stable version of nvda.

There is a link in the email to the demo page.

https://www.google.com/recaptcha/api2/demo





--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda

To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884 How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/

To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Email: buddy@...
Mobile: (814) 431-0962







Re: NVDA chat list

 

Friend,
Regarding the NVDA chat subgroup, those are the addresses you might want to have
Post: chat@nvda.groups.io
Subscribe: chat+subscribe@nvda.groups.io
Unsubscribe: chat+unsubscribe@nvda.groups.io
Group Owner: chat+owner@nvda.groups.io
Help: chat+help@nvda.groups.io

Cheers,
Marcio
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Em 21/02/2019 03:22, Brian K. Lingard escreveu:

Dear Gene:

 

I thought the Nvda-chat list is nvda-chat@groups.io

 

However, this list does not exist. What is the correct URL?

Thank you.

 

 

 

Brian K. Lingard VE3YI, Ab2JI, B.. A., C. T. M.

 



Re: having problems with re capture demo page

 

I think I've tried it as well, but no joy. However will try again, let's see what I get :)

Cheers,
Marcio
Follow me on Twitter

Em 21/02/2019 03:22, Gene escreveu:

You can experiment with refreshing the page with f5.  I don't use captchas often enough to have had this problem more than once.  I think what happened was odd.  I think that I filled in the information in the form I had filled in previously, then I looked for the captcha.  As I recall, I didn't find it but when I submitted the form, it was accepted, as though refreshing the page had allowed the correctly solved captcha to be registered.  Those with the problem can try this. 
 
I had correctly solved the captcha the first time before refreshing the page.  I wasn't told that because the response was the possible spam announcement.
 
Gene
----- Original message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 11:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] having problems with re capture demo page

So, what we might do? Do you have any workaround for this?

Cheers,
Marcio
Follow me on Twitter

Em 21/02/2019 02:22, Sarah k Alawami escreveu:

That's the thing. Sometimes if you do that once you might still get the too many accounts thing, or even if you don't do it at all. Iv'e had both on different sites.

On 20 Feb 2019, at 17:04, Gene wrote:

Allowing popups may have helped, I don't know.  Whatever the case, this will happen if you submit too many incorrect entries.  It will happen also for perhaps the reason stated in the below message.  But I do know that if you submit too many incorrect solutions, you won't be able to submit more for a certain amount of time.  So if you can do so at first, and then you can't. trying later will again allow you to do so.  Therefore, if an audio challenge is difficult, you may want to try submitting a solution once and then getting another one rather than trying multiple times with the current one.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 20, 2019 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] having problems with re capture demo page

I just did this 2 days ago when signing up for wwv, (no that is not a mis type) and did not get the issue. using safari, or in this case, used safari. I have seen this before. I was urged to allow pop ups by the tech support guys when I last got this. i did that and it worked. I then turned on my blocker afterwords.

On 20 Feb 2019, at 7:39, Buddy Brannan wrote:

This is not correct at all.

I have only one Google account, and have been getting this same message, mind you only when selecting “Get an audio challenge”, on both Chrome and Safari. Google have clearly broken something here.

On Feb 19, 2019, at 4:52 PM, Kenny <kwashingtonbox@...> wrote:

The browser you're using has multiple Google accounts cookied. You have to visit the Google.com page and logout/remove any extra Google accounts. Then make sure only your main Google account is cookied on that browser.



On 2/19/2019 4:48 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi guys

I was asked on another list if people are having problems with re capture in this case he sent me a demo page and nvda reports unavailable in all editable sections it reads out the section. also down where you check the check box to say you are not a bot or what ever it is as soon as you check it it takes you to another page where it wants you to try and pass either a text bassed one or a audio one but then gives you a message saying

Part of the message below. He gets this on other websites with capture .

What happens is that I get a message that says we can't process your query because a computer on your network might be sending automated queries. I don't believe anything here is doing that. I've read that one of the ways reCAPTCHA uses to try to tell that we're not a robot is to look at your mouse movements. But of course I'm not using a mouse so it might look like I'm a robot. Maybe some people might agree but let's not go there right now.

Is it on there side and they have broken it? I also tried some other browsers same sort of results with the latest stable version of nvda.

There is a link in the email to the demo page.

https://www.google.com/recaptcha/api2/demo





--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda

To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884 How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/

To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

Buddy Brannan, KB5ELV - Erie, PA
Email: buddy@...
Mobile: (814) 431-0962







Re: NVDA chat list

Gene
 

I don't have the address and I'd have to check the web site.  Others know it and will probably post it. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, February 21, 2019 12:22 AM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA chat list

Dear Gene:

 

I thought the Nvda-chat list is nvda-chat@groups.io

 

However, this list does not exist. What is the correct URL?

Thank you.

 

 

 

Brian K. Lingard VE3YI, Ab2JI, B.. A., C. T. M.