Re: subject keeps repeating when I hit enter on a message in thunderbird
Annette Moore
Ok, when I opened a message in a new window, it did repeat the subject here about three times. Opening the message in a new tab didn't have that result. Annette
On 2/22/2019 11:15 PM, hurrikennyandopo
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Telegram
Kwork
I've been hearing about a social platform called Telegram. Has anyone used it here, and is it at all accessible with NVDA? Thanks.
Travis
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Re: subject keeps repeating when I hit enter on a message in thunderbird
Annette Moore
I don't usually let it read me the subject after hitting enter; instead, I immediately hit the say-all command. however, I just purposely let it start reading the entire email without doing anything after hitting enter, and it only read me the subject once, followed by the body. I'm using the latest version of thunderbird, whatever that is. It just updated fairly recently. Sorry; I know this probably isn't helpful, to hear that my thunderbird isn't repeatedly reading me the subject lines of emails, but I thought I'd let you know I'm not experiencing the same issue here.
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Annette
On 2/22/2019 10:50 PM, Tyler Spivey wrote:
No. you'll just have to get used to it. This is part of the efficiency loss of being blind. I get it four times.
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Re: subject keeps repeating when I hit enter on a message in thunderbird
hurrikennyandopo ...
Hi
No
In my case i use thunder bird and open it in a new window as soon as it opens so it does not repeat the subject line i use the desktop command nvda key + down arrow key for it to start reading the email. So it is not repeated. If i remember right the command for a lap top user is nvda key + a? I would have to check. Gene nz
On 23/02/2019 5:23 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, everyone, --
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
 Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda  To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884 How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/  To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.
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Re: subject keeps repeating when I hit enter on a message in thunderbird
Rosemarie Chavarria
I'll get used to it. I have my keyboard set to skim mode so that helps.
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On 2/22/2019 8:50 PM, Tyler Spivey wrote:
No. you'll just have to get used to it. This is part of the efficiency loss of being blind. I get it four times.
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Re: subject keeps repeating when I hit enter on a message in thunderbird
Tyler Spivey
No. you'll just have to get used to it. This is part of the efficiency loss of being blind. I get it four times.
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You can avoid it somewhat by starting to navigate as soon as it starts to read.
On 2/22/2019 8:23 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, everyone,
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subject keeps repeating when I hit enter on a message in thunderbird
Rosemarie Chavarria
Hi, everyone,
I have thunderbird set to open messages in a new tab but when I hit enter on a message, the subject keeps repeating before the message is read out. Isthere a setting I might need to change in thunderbird? Thanks in advance. Rosemarie
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Re: Dragon UI hanging with NVDA
I've heard of similar issues with this software and nvda over the last few years from people who have tested this. I have not however heard of any fixes. Take care
On 22 Feb 2019, at 18:15, rwlord@... wrote:
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Dragon UI hanging with NVDA
rwlord@...
When I click on Dragon toolbar > Tools > Options, the options dialog appears but mouse clicks and voice commands are ignored everywhere. The pointer changes to an hourglass in the options dialog box. The only recourse is ctrl-alt-del and restart Windows. If I exit NVDA before calling up the Dragon options dialog, the UI does not hang.
I have latest releases of Win 10, Dragon Pro Individual and NVDA. Has anybody Scene similar or do I have a personal problem? Bob
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Re: Getting stuck with Firefox and NVDA and frames
Gene
All that Arlene's message says is that it lost all
sound. Since we have no further information, we don't have any idea if
this involves Device manager. We need to know details about the lost
sound. Did it just stop one day? It might be something like a
corrupted driver or a defective sound card itself but it might well be that the
easiest thing to do would be to purchase a cheap USB sound card and use
that.
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Also, you are looking at your
computer. You have no way of solving her problem looking at your computer
since you don't have the problem to experiment with.
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Gene
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From: Arlene
Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 6:24 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Getting stuck with Firefox and NVDA and
frames > On Feb 22, 2019, at 1:44 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote: > > Windows 7 lost sound? Do you use an external sound device like headphones in the usb or whatever? > Normally this can be sorted quuite easily from the device manager. > Brian > > bglists@... > Sent via blueyonder. > Please address personal E-mail to:- > briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' > in the display name field. > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...> > To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> > Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 4:32 AM > Subject: Re: [nvda] Getting stuck with Firefox and NVDA and frames > > > Oh no! I hope they get the bug fixed. My windows 7 lost all sound. Otherwise I would have tested Firefox with fb I use it for my foodsafe online class. I was using the latest NVDA build. Windows 7 and the latest build of Firefox. I never had that problem. >> On Feb 21, 2019, at 6:50 PM, Lino Morales <linomorales001@...> wrote: >> >> Hi. I’m using the current Insider Build of W 10 and NVDA 2018.4.1 with FF 65.1. I’m having a problem with websites getting stuck in a frame. I.E. the Facebook mobile site. I don’t know if it’s a bug in FF 65.1 or not. Didn’t have this with V 65. Here is an example. If someone replies to a comment or whatever I hit enter on that link. When I hit H to get the heading and arrow down it seems to get stuck in a frame on the page and I can’t get out of it unless I reload the FB mobile site. I’ve noticed this on other sites too. This doesn’t happen in JAWS 2019. >> >> Sent from Mail for Windows 10 >> >> > > > > > > >
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Re: Getting stuck with Firefox and NVDA and frames
Arlene
Ok where do you find device manager in win 7? Where do I send sighted assistance to find this? then when I get the old clunker started I can test Firefox for you all. I do use it to do my food safe class. I have no problem with it. My computer is slow to get on the college site.
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On Feb 22, 2019, at 1:44 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote:
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Re: About accessible book reading apps
Cristóbal
QReadd's the closest thing I've found to a pretty complete program.
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I use the portable version placed in my Google Drive folder to be able to synch across my computers I would like features where you could add notes to certain passages for a more thorough reading experience. Especially if you're trying to learn or study something, but alas.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of JM Casey Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 1:30 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] About accessible book reading apps Yep. Doesn't seem like a lot to ask, but all those thigns together are oddly a rarity. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Devin Prater Sent: February 22, 2019 4:25 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] About accessible book reading apps I'm still looking for a good, free program to do this, which will preserve formatting, like italics and bold. I just need it to open EPUB files, work with links, both external and internal, show a table of contents when asked, and save my place in the book. For now, I use my Mac, with Emacs, and Emacspeak to read Emacs, and the nov-el addon to read EPUB files. On Feb 22, 2019, at 3:00 PM, JM Casey <jmcasey@...> wrote:worth the money because it does open these files really quickly. ability to read with anything other than your actual screen reader because every time I hit control+s to enable speech from QRead's own ability to enable that feature, it starts at the beginning of the book or document that it's reading from, no matter where the cursor used to be in the document. However, to make this on topic, if you read with just NVDA and whatever voice or synthesizer you choose to use and use your say-all command, it works beautifully! I can't use my Ivona Kendra voice, though, because of the issue I described above. I have an earlier portable version of QRead for times when I want to use Kendra, though.
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Re: A political history of Windows accessibility standards.
Brian's Mail list account
Yes what he also does not say in this article and something i did attempt to help with was the public facing lies that the BBC portray about how accessible their site was, while all the time removing background data used by apis trying to make client software to play tv and radio and podcast content easier.
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It amazes me that although they knew folk were writing accessible front ends for tvs and windows and mobile apps, they would chop and change how the data was presented soo a few months later the app no longer worked. Yes we are just an afterthought by many in my view. Bah Humbug! Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Robert Kingett" <kingettr@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 2:52 PM Subject: [nvda] A political history of Windows accessibility standards. This is a really great blog post by the developer of WebbIE,
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Re: About accessible book reading apps
JM Casey
Yep. Doesn't seem like a lot to ask, but all those thigns together are oddly
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a rarity.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Devin Prater Sent: February 22, 2019 4:25 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] About accessible book reading apps I'm still looking for a good, free program to do this, which will preserve formatting, like italics and bold. I just need it to open EPUB files, work with links, both external and internal, show a table of contents when asked, and save my place in the book. For now, I use my Mac, with Emacs, and Emacspeak to read Emacs, and the nov-el addon to read EPUB files. On Feb 22, 2019, at 3:00 PM, JM Casey <jmcasey@...> wrote:worth the money because it does open these files really quickly. ability to read with anything other than your actual screen reader because every time I hit control+s to enable speech from QRead's own ability to enable that feature, it starts at the beginning of the book or document that it's reading from, no matter where the cursor used to be in the document. However, to make this on topic, if you read with just NVDA and whatever voice or synthesizer you choose to use and use your say-all command, it works beautifully! I can't use my Ivona Kendra voice, though, because of the issue I described above. I have an earlier portable version of QRead for times when I want to use Kendra, though.
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Re: About accessible book reading apps
Devin Prater
I'm still looking for a good, free program to do this, which will preserve formatting, like italics and bold. I just need it to open EPUB files, work with links, both external and internal, show a table of contents when asked, and save my place in the book. For now, I use my Mac, with Emacs, and Emacspeak to read Emacs, and the nov-el addon to read EPUB files.
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On Feb 22, 2019, at 3:00 PM, JM Casey <jmcasey@...> wrote:
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Re: About accessible book reading apps
JM Casey
I use qRead to open the files, then just save as .txt and dump into my braille note for reading on the display. :D
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Neat programme though. It was worth the money because it does open these files really quickly.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Annette Moore Sent: February 22, 2019 2:05 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] About accessible book reading apps the only thing I don't like about the update is that it kind of broke the ability to read with anything other than your actual screen reader because every time I hit control+s to enable speech from QRead's own ability to enable that feature, it starts at the beginning of the book or document that it's reading from, no matter where the cursor used to be in the document. However, to make this on topic, if you read with just NVDA and whatever voice or synthesizer you choose to use and use your say-all command, it works beautifully! I can't use my Ivona Kendra voice, though, because of the issue I described above. I have an earlier portable version of QRead for times when I want to use Kendra, though. Annette On 2/22/2019 3:50 AM, Mallard wrote: Yes, Qread is great. I too couldn't do without it in Windows.
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Re: About accessible book reading apps
Mallard <mallard@...>
No, when I tested I did jus that, but Elsa reads from where the cursor is. I can't reproduce the issue here...
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Ciao, Ollie
Il 22/02/2019 20:54, Annette Moore ha scritto:
Ok, go somewhere else in the document. Like, go to the middle or somewhere, or do a search and put your cursor elsewhere. then try Elsa again. She will start reading at the very beginning instead of where you left off. At least that's what Ivona Kendra is doing, and it's doing it with others too who are using other TTS voices. I can read with just the screen reader, though, and that's not a problem. I do have Ivona Kendra on Voice Dream on the phone too so I can use that.
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Re: About accessible book reading apps
Annette Moore
Hi, Travis. Yeah, actually though, I'm likely going to start using just NVDA because with the other speech, it breaks up a lot. It didn't used to do that, but it got to where I often had to close QRead and reopen it and continue reading. It was getting to be a royal pain. I'll just use OneCor Zira now instead of Ivona Kendra.
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Annette
On 2/22/2019 1:43 PM, Kwork wrote:
Oh, no. As I never read with anything except NVDA, I would have missed that bug completely.
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Re: About accessible book reading apps
Annette Moore
Ok, go somewhere else in the document. Like, go to the middle or somewhere, or do a search and put your cursor elsewhere. then try Elsa again. She will start reading at the very beginning instead of where you left off. At least that's what Ivona Kendra is doing, and it's doing it with others too who are using other TTS voices. I can read with just the screen reader, though, and that's not a problem. I do have Ivona Kendra on Voice Dream on the phone too so I can use that.
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Annette
On 2/22/2019 1:19 PM, Mallard wrote:
Hello again Annette,
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Re: About accessible book reading apps
Kwork
Oh, no. As I never read with anything except NVDA, I would have missed that bug completely.
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Travis
On 2/22/2019 12:04 PM, Annette Moore wrote:
the only thing I don't like about the update is that it kind of broke the ability to read with anything other than your actual screen reader because every time I hit control+s to enable speech from QRead's own ability to enable that feature, it starts at the beginning of the book or document that it's reading from, no matter where the cursor used to be in the document. However, to make this on topic, if you read with just NVDA and whatever voice or synthesizer you choose to use and use your say-all command, it works beautifully! I can't use my Ivona Kendra voice, though, because of the issue I described above. I have an earlier portable version of QRead for times when I want to use Kendra, though.
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