Is not this sort of issue what can happen when an event fires more than once
in a piece of software. It would be interesting to know what Jaws does.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Tyler Spivey" <tspivey@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 4:50 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] subject keeps repeating when I hit enter on a message in
thunderbird


> No. you'll just have to get used to it. This is part of the efficiency
> loss of being blind. I get it four times.
> You can avoid it somewhat by starting to navigate as soon as it starts to
> read.
>
> On 2/22/2019 8:23 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
>> Hi, everyone,
>>
>>
>> I have thunderbird set to open messages in a new tab but when I hit enter
>> on a message, the subject keeps repeating before the message is read out.
>> Isthere a setting I might need to change in thunderbird?
>>
>>
>> Thanks in advance.
>>
>>
>> Rosemarie
>>
>>
>>
>>
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>
>
>
>

Well, I have many fixes to loss of sound.

1.  Install new drivers.

Drivers could be corrupted  or other things could be dammaged if there was an net interuption during a download.

2.  if drivers are reloaded and no sound, you may have a corrupt user profile.

Make another one, copy all your data documents, music, pictures, etc there, kill old user, reinstall dropbox and anything that is needing folders in that other user.

Note most stuff should be able to restart and configure in your new user.

Of course, the big issue is the net scenario and iff its not a virus, a failed chip or board or windows just needing a good reformat, then its probably the net in general.

Turn off router and turn it on.

Then reset your router as normal.

Update your router to the latest firmware.

Note, if on vdsl or higher and its an isp router, doing this yourself will void worenty and also your router, you will have to replace the router and the old one will be dammaged.

Request an update to your router from the isp side.

Update any wireless or other extenders and network devices that could do bad things.

Ask for a line test, note again if on anything over adsl, your vdsl and higher dataline is quite a resilient beast but you can get a test anyway.

In my case the issue with the network was the wireless card.

Again update firmware and drivers to it and check that the card still exists.

In my case windows couldn't handle the card because it litterally didn't exist both physically, since its company didn't exist anymore and the other thing to.

All that Arlene's message says is that it lost all sound.  Since we have no further information, we don't have any idea if this involves Device manager.  We need to know details about the lost sound.  Did it just stop one day?  It might be something like a corrupted driver or a defective sound card itself but it might well be that the easiest thing to do would be to purchase a cheap USB sound card and use that.

 

Also, you are looking at your computer.  You have no way of solving her problem looking at your computer since you don't have the problem to experiment with.

 

Gene

----- Original message -----

From: Arlene

Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 6:24 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Getting stuck with Firefox and NVDA and frames

Ok where do you find device manager in win 7?  Where do I send sighted assistance to find this?  then when I get the old clunker started I can test Firefox for you all. I do use it to do my food safe class. I have no problem with it.  My computer is slow to get on the college site.
> On Feb 22, 2019, at 1:44 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote:
>
> Windows 7 lost sound? Do you use an external sound device like headphones in the usb or whatever?
> Normally this can be sorted quuite easily from the device manager.
> Brian
>
> bglists@...
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 4:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Getting stuck with Firefox and NVDA and frames
>
>
> Oh no! I hope they get the bug fixed.  My windows 7 lost all sound. Otherwise I would have tested Firefox with fb I use it for my foodsafe online class.  I was using the latest NVDA build. Windows 7 and the latest build of Firefox.  I never had that problem.
>> On Feb 21, 2019, at 6:50 PM, Lino Morales <linomorales001@...> wrote:
>>
>> Hi. I’m using the current Insider Build of W 10 and NVDA 2018.4.1 with FF 65.1. I’m having a problem with websites getting stuck in a frame. I.E. the Facebook mobile site. I don’t know if it’s a bug in FF 65.1 or not. Didn’t have this with V 65. Here is an example. If someone replies to a comment or whatever I hit enter on that link. When I hit H to get the heading and arrow down it seems to get stuck in a frame on the page and I can’t get out of it unless I reload the FB mobile site. I’ve noticed this on other sites too. This doesn’t happen in JAWS 2019.
>>
>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Kwork" <istherelife@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 5:19 AM
Subject: [nvda] Telegram

I've been hearing about a social platform called Telegram. Has anyone used it here, and is it at all accessible with NVDA? Thanks.

Travis

----- Original Message -----
From: "Tyler Spivey" <tspivey@pcdesk.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 4:50 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] subject keeps repeating when I hit enter on a message in thunderbird

No. you'll just have to get used to it. This is part of the efficiency loss of being blind. I get it four times.
You can avoid it somewhat by starting to navigate as soon as it starts to read.

On 2/22/2019 8:23 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, everyone,


I have thunderbird set to open messages in a new tab but when I hit enter on a message, the subject keeps repeating before the message is read out. Isthere a setting I might need to change in thunderbird?


Thanks in advance.


Rosemarie

----- Original Message -----
From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, February 23, 2019 3:30 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Dragon UI hanging with NVDA

I've heard of similar issues with this software and nvda over the last
few years from people who have tested this. I have not however heard of
any fixes.

Take care

On 22 Feb 2019, at 18:15, rwlord@gmail.com wrote:

When I click on Dragon toolbar > Tools > Options, the options dialog
appears but mouse clicks and voice commands are ignored everywhere.
The pointer changes to an hourglass in the options dialog box. The
only recourse is ctrl-alt-del and restart Windows. If I exit NVDA
before calling up the Dragon options dialog, the UI does not hang.
I have latest releases of Win 10, Dragon Pro Individual and NVDA.
Has anybody Scene similar or do I have a personal problem?

Bob

No. you'll just have to get used to it. This is part of the efficiency
loss of being blind. I get it four times.
You can avoid it somewhat by starting to navigate as soon as it starts
to read.

On 2/22/2019 8:23 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
> Hi, everyone,
>
>
> I have thunderbird set to open messages in a new tab but when I hit
> enter on a message, the subject keeps repeating before the message is
> read out. Isthere a setting I might need to change in thunderbird?
>
>
> Thanks in advance.
>
>
> Rosemarie
>
>
>
>
>
>

Hi, everyone,


I have thunderbird set to open messages in a new tab but when I hit
enter on a message, the subject keeps repeating before the message is
read out. Isthere a setting I might need to change in thunderbird?


Thanks in advance.


Rosemarie

On 2019-02-23 1:12 a.m., Kwork wrote:

Thank you very much!

That seems to work. Better than the desktop application anyway. 😊

Travis

On 2/22/2019 10:47 PM, Tyler Wood wrote:

Hi,

The website is.

web.telegram.org


On Android, if you use that, there is an app called Teleight that is also 100% accessible.


hope that helps


On 2019-02-22 11:19 p.m., Kwork wrote:

I've been hearing about a social platform called Telegram. Has anyone used it here, and is it at all accessible with NVDA? Thanks.

Travis

On 2/22/2019 10:47 PM, Tyler Wood wrote:

Hi,

The website is.

web.telegram.org


On Android, if you use that, there is an app called Teleight that is also 100% accessible.


hope that helps


On 2019-02-22 11:19 p.m., Kwork wrote:

I've been hearing about a social platform called Telegram. Has anyone used it here, and is it at all accessible with NVDA? Thanks.

Travis

On 2/22/2019 11:02 PM, Stephen wrote:

Last I checked with the desktop application, it was completely inaccessible, however, that was a good 18 months ago now.
At 04:47 PM 2/23/2019, you wrote:

Hi,

The website is.

web.telegram.org


On Android, if you use that, there is an app called Teleight that is also 100% accessible.


hope that helps


On 2019-02-22 11:19 p.m., Kwork wrote:

I've been hearing about a social platform called Telegram. Has anyone used it here, and is it at all accessible with NVDA? Thanks.

Travis

I have it set to a new tab and now the subject line isn't repeating anymore. I did turn off the message pane and that might have helped.

On 2/22/2019 9:23 PM, Annette Moore wrote:

Ok, when I opened a message in a new window, it did repeat the subject here about three times. Opening the message in a new tab didn't have that result.

Annette

On 2/22/2019 11:15 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi

No

In my case i use thunder bird and open it in a new window as soon as it opens so it does not repeat the subject line i use the desktop command nvda key + down arrow key for it to start reading the email.  So it is not repeated. If i remember right the command for a lap top user is nvda key + a? I would have to check.

Gene nz

On 23/02/2019 5:23 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, everyone,


I have thunderbird set to open messages in a new tab but when I hit enter on a message, the subject keeps repeating before the message is read out. Isthere a setting I might need to change in thunderbird?


Thanks in advance.


Rosemarie

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
 
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
 
To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
 
To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

All that Arlene's message says is that it lost all sound.  Since we have no further information, we don't have any idea if this involves Device manager.  We need to know details about the lost sound.  Did it just stop one day?  It might be something like a corrupted driver or a defective sound card itself but it might well be that the easiest thing to do would be to purchase a cheap USB sound card and use that.

 

Also, you are looking at your computer.  You have no way of solving her problem looking at your computer since you don't have the problem to experiment with.

 

Gene

----- Original message -----

From: Arlene

Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 6:24 PM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Getting stuck with Firefox and NVDA and frames

Ok where do you find device manager in win 7?  Where do I send sighted assistance to find this?  then when I get the old clunker started I can test Firefox for you all. I do use it to do my food safe class. I have no problem with it.  My computer is slow to get on the college site.
> On Feb 22, 2019, at 1:44 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote:
>
> Windows 7 lost sound? Do you use an external sound device like headphones in the usb or whatever?
> Normally this can be sorted quuite easily from the device manager.
> Brian
>
> bglists@...
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal E-mail to:-
> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
> in the display name field.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Friday, February 22, 2019 4:32 AM
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Getting stuck with Firefox and NVDA and frames
>
>
> Oh no! I hope they get the bug fixed.  My windows 7 lost all sound. Otherwise I would have tested Firefox with fb I use it for my foodsafe online class.  I was using the latest NVDA build. Windows 7 and the latest build of Firefox.  I never had that problem.
>> On Feb 21, 2019, at 6:50 PM, Lino Morales <linomorales001@...> wrote:
>>
>> Hi. I’m using the current Insider Build of W 10 and NVDA 2018.4.1 with FF 65.1. I’m having a problem with websites getting stuck in a frame. I.E. the Facebook mobile site. I don’t know if it’s a bug in FF 65.1 or not. Didn’t have this with V 65. Here is an example. If someone replies to a comment or whatever I hit enter on that link. When I hit H to get the heading and arrow down it seems to get stuck in a frame on the page and I can’t get out of it unless I reload the FB mobile site. I’ve noticed this on other sites too. This doesn’t happen in JAWS 2019.
>>
>> Sent from Mail for Windows 10
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>

At 04:47 PM 2/23/2019, you wrote:

Hi,

The website is.

web.telegram.org


On Android, if you use that, there is an app called Teleight that is also 100% accessible.


hope that helps


On 2019-02-22 11:19 p.m., Kwork wrote:

I've been hearing about a social platform called Telegram. Has anyone used it here, and is it at all accessible with NVDA? Thanks.

Travis

Hi

No

In my case i use thunder bird and open it in a new window as soon as it opens so it does not repeat the subject line i use the desktop command nvda key + down arrow key for it to start reading the email.  So it is not repeated. If i remember right the command for a lap top user is nvda key + a? I would have to check.

Gene nz

On 23/02/2019 5:23 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, everyone,


I have thunderbird set to open messages in a new tab but when I hit enter on a message, the subject keeps repeating before the message is read out. Isthere a setting I might need to change in thunderbird?


Thanks in advance.


Rosemarie

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
 
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
 
To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
 
To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

On 2/22/2019 9:19 PM, Annette Moore wrote:

I don't usually let it read me the subject after hitting enter; instead, I immediately hit the say-all command. however, I just purposely let it start reading the entire email without doing anything after hitting enter, and it only read me the subject once, followed by the body. I'm using the latest version of thunderbird, whatever that is. It just updated fairly recently. Sorry; I know this probably isn't helpful, to hear that my thunderbird isn't repeatedly reading me the subject lines of emails, but I thought I'd let you know I'm not experiencing the same issue here.

Annette

On 2/22/2019 10:50 PM, Tyler Spivey wrote:

No. you'll just have to get used to it. This is part of the efficiency loss of being blind. I get it four times.
You can avoid it somewhat by starting to navigate as soon as it starts to read.

On 2/22/2019 8:23 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, everyone,


I have thunderbird set to open messages in a new tab but when I hit enter on a message, the subject keeps repeating before the message is read out. Isthere a setting I might need to change in thunderbird?


Thanks in advance.


Rosemarie

Ok, when I opened a message in a new window, it did repeat the subject here about three times. Opening the message in a new tab didn't have that result.

Annette

On 2/22/2019 11:15 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi

No

In my case i use thunder bird and open it in a new window as soon as it opens so it does not repeat the subject line i use the desktop command nvda key + down arrow key for it to start reading the email.  So it is not repeated. If i remember right the command for a lap top user is nvda key + a? I would have to check.

Gene nz

On 23/02/2019 5:23 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, everyone,


I have thunderbird set to open messages in a new tab but when I hit enter on a message, the subject keeps repeating before the message is read out. Isthere a setting I might need to change in thunderbird?


Thanks in advance.


Rosemarie

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
 
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
 
To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
 
To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

On 2019-02-22 11:19 p.m., Kwork wrote:

I've been hearing about a social platform called Telegram. Has anyone used it here, and is it at all accessible with NVDA? Thanks.

Travis

Hello listers, 

I have to back up my iPhone to my computer using iTunes and NVDA but I've never done it before. So, I've the following questions. 

1. Is it totally accessible to use iTunes with NVDA to back up iPhone without sighted assistant? 

2. Is it possible to change back up storage from C: to D: or any external drive? I'm afraid that my C: doesn't have enough space. 

3. If it's possible, anyone please explain me step by step of how to do it or point me to the link containing tutourial someone already demonstrate it before. 

 

Thank you. 

Hi

No

In my case i use thunder bird and open it in a new window as soon as it opens so it does not repeat the subject line i use the desktop command nvda key + down arrow key for it to start reading the email.  So it is not repeated. If i remember right the command for a lap top user is nvda key + a? I would have to check.

Gene nz

On 23/02/2019 5:23 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

Hi, everyone,


I have thunderbird set to open messages in a new tab but when I hit enter on a message, the subject keeps repeating before the message is read out. Isthere a setting I might need to change in thunderbird?


Thanks in advance.


Rosemarie

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
 
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
 
To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
 
To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.