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Re: Having troubles to play with a website

George McCoy <slr1bpz@...>
 

Do you have nvda's keyboard layout  set to laptop?  if so, do the following:

Press b until you get to the button you want to click.

hold down the nvda and shift keys and press the letter m to route the mouse to the button.

Hold down the nvda key and press the left bracket key to click the button.


To see whether keyboard layout is set to laptop or desktop, do the following:

Press nvda plus n to open the nvda menu.

Press p to open preferences.

Press enter to open settings.

Press the letter k for keyboard.

Tab once and the keyboard layout setting will be spoken.

Press escape to exit the nvda menu.


Hth,

George


On 2/24/2019 3:47 PM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:
Well I tried to use the said commands to make whatever there play, but still no luck.
As I am using a Dell laptop, I do:
Hit B until I hear play.
Press NVDA+SHIFT+BACKSPACE twice until hear play again.
Press NVDA+].
And that's it. Nothing happens :(

Em 24/02/2019 16:56, Brian Vogel escreveu:
Indeed, all of the following are true:

  1. You will not find the buttons for audio control on the https://golubovsky.bandcamp.com/album/unhuman-voices page except by using the B quick navigation shortcut
  2. Hitting spacebar or enter when you have gained focus on those buttons does nothing.
  3. Using NVDA+/ to route the PC mouse pointer to the NVDA navigator object, then using NumPad slash to activate it will make it play (or, if you're on the jump to next track or other audio control button do what that button does).
-- 

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 



Re: Screenshot (2).png

Lino Morales
 

Oh crap. I forgot about attachments on this list. Stupid pea brain of mine. Anyway I’ll do that. Thanks. Not sure if it’s a FF problem or NVDA issue.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Brian Vogel <britechguy@...>
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 5:18:15 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Screenshot (2).png
 
There is no attachment, and I don't think they're permitted on this group.

If you're dealing with FB mobile on a mobile device then I'm out, anyway.  If it's FB mobile on a PC, then I might be able to figure out something.  Send the screen shot to me via e-mail, and there should be a "Reply to Sender" at the end of each and every message I post that will allow you to do just that.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

 

I have this in dropbox 67 to.

To be honest, do you need dropbox running all day long.

I used to run projects with various people which was my main reason to keep it running at all costs, however, usually I sync data once a day and only when I have data, dropbox stays up till its not needed and then turned off.

Even if I do a project, I update dropbox, shut it down and bring it up several times a day as needed and never run it on startup so its not a big issue.

On 25/02/2019 4:32 AM, James Scholes wrote:
Hi all,

I'm running Dropbox v68.3.92.  Approximately every half an hour or so, NVDA's focus is being moved to a Dropbox window which only seems to contain a single, blank edit field.  The window doesn't seem to stay on the screen, but focus isn't returned to where it was previously after it disappears.  In fact, NVDA reports it as taking up a rectangle of 0 pixels, so I don't know if anything shows up visually on the screen at all.

As you can imagine, having to dismiss these boxes several times per day is irritating.  Does anybody have a work-around?

Regards,

James Scholes
https://twitter.com/JamesScholes


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Re: Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

Jaffar Sidek
 

Hi.  Actually I noticed this behavior only after the latest windows update.  Strange how windows updates affect us in not so convenient ways.  Cheers!

On 2/25/2019 1:08 AM, James Scholes wrote:
On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 07:45 AM, Gene wrote:
Is there any reason to have it running constantly?



Yes.  I use Dropbox for work, so exiting and restarting the client all day long would be just as inconvenient as these pop-ups.  My Dropbox also contains a large number of source code files.  They're small in size but the Dropbox client takes a long time to index them on startup.  Not to mention the fact that one of the key selling points of the product is that it runs in the background, making cloud storage as convenient as a folder on your computer.


Re: Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

Jaffar Sidek
 

Hi James.  Strangely enough, I have this issue as well.  The only thing I can do is to go to task manager and delete all tasks relating to dropbox.  Just delete every dropbox task you can find under the background process option, and there are a few of those including the dropbox update service.  Cheers!

On 2/24/2019 11:32 PM, James Scholes wrote:
Hi all,

I'm running Dropbox v68.3.92.  Approximately every half an hour or so, NVDA's focus is being moved to a Dropbox window which only seems to contain a single, blank edit field.  The window doesn't seem to stay on the screen, but focus isn't returned to where it was previously after it disappears.  In fact, NVDA reports it as taking up a rectangle of 0 pixels, so I don't know if anything shows up visually on the screen at all.

As you can imagine, having to dismiss these boxes several times per day is irritating.  Does anybody have a work-around?

Regards,

James Scholes
https://twitter.com/JamesScholes


New addon: BrowserNav

Tony Malykh
 

Hello

Announcing BrowserNav - a new NVDA add-on that provides enhanced navigation keystrokes in browsers.
Download:
https://github.com/mltony/nvda-browser-nav/releases/download/v1.1/BrowserNav-1.1.nvda-addon
Source code:
https://github.com/mltony/nvda-browser-nav/

BrowserNav provides NVDA users powerful navigation commands in browse mode.
For example, with BrowserNav you can find vertically aligned paragraphs, that is paragraphs with the same horizontal offset. This can be used to read hierarchical trees of comments or malformed HTML tables.
You can also find paragraphs written in the same font size or style.
BrowserNav also provides new QuickNav commands: P for next paragraph and Y for next tab.

## Usage in browsers
BrowserNav can be used to navigate by  horizontal offset from the left edge of the screen, by font size, or by font style.
* When navigating by horizontal offset, you can easily find paragraphs that are vertically aligned on the page. IN particular, you can press NVDA+Alt+DownArrow or UpArrow to jump to the next or previous paragraph that has the same offset. For example, this can be useful when browsing hierarchical trees of comments (e.g. on reddit.com) to jump between  first level comments and skipping all the higher level comments.
* When navigating by font size, you can easily find paragraphs written in the same font size, or smaller/greater font size.
* You can also navigate by font size with the constraint of same font style.

BrowserNav works in any browser supported by NVDA.

Keystrokes:

* NVDA+Alt+UpArrow or DownArrow: Jump to previous or next paragraph with the same horizontal offset or font size.
* NVDA+alt+LeftArrow: Jump to previous paragraph with lesser offset or greater font size.
* NVDA+Alt+RightArrow: Jump to next paragraph with greater offset or smaller font size.
* NVDA+O: Switch rotor setting between horizontal offset, font size, font size with font style.
* P or Shift+P: Jump to next or previous paragraph.
* Y or Shift+Y: Jump to next or previous tab.

Please note that some of this functionality has been formerly a part of my other addon IndentNav.

Best regards
Tony


Re: Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

Roger Stewart
 

Knock on wood, so far, I haven't had this problem. I've been using Dropbox since 2010.

Roger

On 2/24/2019 5:59 PM, Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William wrote:
Hi,
I do face a same problem. almost every hour I have to manually move the focus back to my main area.
It speak something "C:\..........Dropbox.exe"
It is inapplicable to turnoff Dropbox app as my work is rely on Dropbox to cooperate with partners.
And my work rely on NVDA command to speak all; everytime when NVDA speak for several minutes and the Dropbox window popup and the speak all command is interupted and I have to manually move back to my document and look for where NVDA has stoped and it is very time wasting.




James Scholes 於 24/2/2019 23:32 寫道:
Hi all,

I'm running Dropbox v68.3.92.  Approximately every half an hour or so, NVDA's focus is being moved to a Dropbox window which only seems to contain a single, blank edit field.  The window doesn't seem to stay on the screen, but focus isn't returned to where it was previously after it disappears.  In fact, NVDA reports it as taking up a rectangle of 0 pixels, so I don't know if anything shows up visually on the screen at all.

As you can imagine, having to dismiss these boxes several times per day is irritating.  Does anybody have a work-around?

Regards,

James Scholes
https://twitter.com/JamesScholes





Re: Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William <cwwong.pro@...>
 

Hi,
I do face a same problem. almost every hour I have to manually move the focus back to my main area.
It speak something "C:\..........Dropbox.exe"
It is inapplicable to turnoff Dropbox app as my work is rely on Dropbox to cooperate with partners.
And my work rely on NVDA command to speak all; everytime when NVDA speak for several minutes and the Dropbox window popup and the speak all command is interupted and I have to manually move back to my document and look for where NVDA has stoped and it is very time wasting.




James Scholes 於 24/2/2019 23:32 寫道:

Hi all,

I'm running Dropbox v68.3.92.  Approximately every half an hour or so, NVDA's focus is being moved to a Dropbox window which only seems to contain a single, blank edit field.  The window doesn't seem to stay on the screen, but focus isn't returned to where it was previously after it disappears.  In fact, NVDA reports it as taking up a rectangle of 0 pixels, so I don't know if anything shows up visually on the screen at all.

As you can imagine, having to dismiss these boxes several times per day is irritating.  Does anybody have a work-around?

Regards,

James Scholes
https://twitter.com/JamesScholes


Re: Telegram

Mr. Wong Chi Wai, William <cwwong.pro@...>
 

The desktop app is inaccessible;
Someone has already file an issue in thetelegram page several years before, and it seemed that they are not going to fix any of its issues.
Kwork 於 23/2/2019 15:10 寫道:

It's still inaccessible. I just tried it out of curiosity.

Travis

On 2/22/2019 11:02 PM, Stephen wrote:
Last I checked with the desktop application, it was completely inaccessible, however, that was a good 18 months ago now.
At 04:47 PM 2/23/2019, you wrote:
Hi,

The website is.

web.telegram.org


On Android, if you use that, there is an app called Teleight that is also 100% accessible.


hope that helps


On 2019-02-22 11:19 p.m., Kwork wrote:
I've been hearing about a social platform called Telegram. Has anyone used it here, and is it at all accessible with NVDA? Thanks.

Travis





Re: Transition to Screen Readers

 

Have you corresponded with this individual?   I ask because there is no indication whatsoever of when this was originally put online.  It could be years old for all I know, or it could be brand new.

One thing that's for certain is they should check to see if their jurisdiction has any services for the blind and visually impaired and, if so, see if they can get tutoring.  Screen readers really are not a "learn it yourself" affair, at least not for your first one.  Once you've got the concepts transitions from one to another, while possibly bumpy, are not nearly as daunting as learning one in the first place.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Transition to Screen Readers

Jeffrey McFarland
 

I thought I would share with the group.
https://goo.gl/2mFrCV


Re: Having troubles to play with a website

 

Man, seriously, I'm giving up on this.
I just did what you said now. And this time I made double sure that these were the right commands.
Either this project isn't playable at all or my computer is joking on me, or even my browser is getting into a conspiracy to get me mad. LOL
Anyway, thanks for all of your and also others answers and patience. This community is awesome.
Feeling like a newbie at the end of the day but that's ok. That's the life, isn't it?

Em 24/02/2019 19:12, Brian Vogel escreveu:

Marcio,

         I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to do, but it's not what I said earlier other than using B to find the Play button.  After you have focus on it:

If you're using desktop layout:
                Hit NVDA+NumPad Divide  [route PC mouse to NVDA Navigator Object]
                Hit NumPad Divide              [left click]

if you're using laptop keystrokes those steps would be:
                Hit NVDA+Shift+M     [route PC mouse to NVDA Navigator Object]
                Hit NVDA+[                [left click]

I don't know what NVDA+SHIFT+Backspace does and NVDA+] is RIGHT click, not left click.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 



Re: Having troubles to play with a website

 

On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 05:22 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
Nvda backspace routs to the currently focused object.
I see that NVDA+SHIFT+Backspace is described as, "Move System focus or caret to current review position," for laptop layout.  But the caret and the mouse pointer are two different things.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: Having troubles to play with a website

Sarah k Alawami
 

Nvda backspace routs to the currently focused object. I've done this by accident when in my auto pilot program. Not fun when that happens by the way.

On 24 Feb 2019, at 14:12, Brian Vogel wrote:

Marcio,

         I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to do, but it's not what I said earlier other than using B to find the Play button.  After you have focus on it:

If you're using desktop layout:
                Hit NVDA+NumPad Divide  [route PC mouse to NVDA Navigator Object]
                Hit NumPad Divide              [left click]

if you're using laptop keystrokes those steps would be:
                Hit NVDA+Shift+M     [route PC mouse to NVDA Navigator Object]
                Hit NVDA+[                [left click]

I don't know what NVDA+SHIFT+Backspace does and NVDA+] is RIGHT click, not left click.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: Screenshot (2).png

 

There is no attachment, and I don't think they're permitted on this group.

If you're dealing with FB mobile on a mobile device then I'm out, anyway.  If it's FB mobile on a PC, then I might be able to figure out something.  Send the screen shot to me via e-mail, and there should be a "Reply to Sender" at the end of each and every message I post that will allow you to do just that.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: Having troubles to play with a website

 

On Sun, Feb 24, 2019 at 04:59 PM, JM Casey wrote:
I hit NVVDA+* on the numpad.
Is that * a typo?   That should route NVDA to the the object under Mouse pointer, which is the opposite of what is wanted here.   I presume you meant NVDA+NumPad Divide (or Slash).
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: Having troubles to play with a website

 

Marcio,

         I'm not sure exactly what you're trying to do, but it's not what I said earlier other than using B to find the Play button.  After you have focus on it:

If you're using desktop layout:
                Hit NVDA+NumPad Divide  [route PC mouse to NVDA Navigator Object]
                Hit NumPad Divide              [left click]

if you're using laptop keystrokes those steps would be:
                Hit NVDA+Shift+M     [route PC mouse to NVDA Navigator Object]
                Hit NVDA+[                [left click]

I don't know what NVDA+SHIFT+Backspace does and NVDA+] is RIGHT click, not left click.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: Having troubles to play with a website

JM Casey
 

I just went to another bandcamp page using NVDA, because I can’t remember the original uRL posted, but they should all work the same.

I pressed “b” to get to the play button.

I hit NVVDA+* on the numpad.

Then the left mouse button, the numpad /.

The player activates.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of marcio via Groups.Io
Sent: February 24, 2019 4:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Having troubles to play with a website

 

Well I tried to use the said commands to make whatever there play, but still no luck.
As I am using a Dell laptop, I do:
Hit B until I hear play.
Press NVDA+SHIFT+BACKSPACE twice until hear play again.
Press NVDA+].
And that's it. Nothing happens :(

Em 24/02/2019 16:56, Brian Vogel escreveu:

Indeed, all of the following are true:

  1. You will not find the buttons for audio control on the https://golubovsky.bandcamp.com/album/unhuman-voices page except by using the B quick navigation shortcut
  2. Hitting spacebar or enter when you have gained focus on those buttons does nothing.
  3. Using NVDA+/ to route the PC mouse pointer to the NVDA navigator object, then using NumPad slash to activate it will make it play (or, if you're on the jump to next track or other audio control button do what that button does).

-- 

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 

 


Re: Having troubles to play with a website

 

Well I tried to use the said commands to make whatever there play, but still no luck.
As I am using a Dell laptop, I do:
Hit B until I hear play.
Press NVDA+SHIFT+BACKSPACE twice until hear play again.
Press NVDA+].
And that's it. Nothing happens :(

Em 24/02/2019 16:56, Brian Vogel escreveu:

Indeed, all of the following are true:

  1. You will not find the buttons for audio control on the https://golubovsky.bandcamp.com/album/unhuman-voices page except by using the B quick navigation shortcut
  2. Hitting spacebar or enter when you have gained focus on those buttons does nothing.
  3. Using NVDA+/ to route the PC mouse pointer to the NVDA navigator object, then using NumPad slash to activate it will make it play (or, if you're on the jump to next track or other audio control button do what that button does).
-- 

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 



Re: NVDA CodeFactory imbedded pro voices

Kevin Cussick
 

I prefer the compact voices my self.

On 24/02/2019 17:52, Steve Nutt wrote:
Hi,
That's subjective. I find the compact versions don't mangle some
pronunciations.
All the best
Steve
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of luke scholey
Sent: 22 February 2019 12:12
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA CodeFactory imbedded pro voices
Higher is better quality.
Luke

On 22 Feb 2019, at 02:53, Chris Shook <chris0309@...> wrote:

Hi,
WHen using Eloquence and Vocalizer expressive for NVDA, what is the
difference in the imbedded pro and the imbedded high?
I know the imbedded pro is more precise in it's pronunciation and takes up
less space, but is there an official difference?
Thanks
Chris