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Re: Windows10.1803 Having to restart NVDA every so often to get it to stay focused?

Pascal Lambert <coccinelle86@...>
 

Please, where can I find the audio effect to turn it off?
Thanks
Blessings
Pascal

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jackie
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 11:35 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows10.1803 Having to restart NVDA every so often to get it to stay focused?

The other thing to check, folks, is whether you have audio effects turned on. This seems to cause NVDA real problems.

On 2/25/19, Joseph Lee <@joslee> wrote:
Hi,

Does restarting without any add-ons help?

Cheers,

Joseph



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pascal
Lambert

Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 8:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows10.1803 Having to restart NVDA every so
often to get it to stay focused?



Hi All,

I am having the same problem no matter what voice I am using. I have
to restart NVDA so often because is starts stuttering and sputtering
or goes silent. This is happening on both my Acer and HP laptops both have 8GB RAM.
This is also happening with the latest version of NVDA and prior versions.
I have on both laptops Windows version 1809 built 17763. I do not
believe the problem, is my sound card as I have no problems when I am
playing music or listening to an E-book. This is getting very
frustrating. Your help is greatly appreciated.

Blessings

Pascal

P.S. I have restarted NVDA 4 times while writing this message!



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 11:05 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Windows10.1803 Having to restart NVDA every so often
to get it to stay focused?



Lately, I’ve had to restartNVDA every so often, to get it back focused
on what’s supposed to do; to read the screen! Sometimes I’m working
along, in apps like Windows10 Mail, Windows Explorer or others, and
suddenly while arrowing around, it doesn’t read, having to invoke the
Read Line NVDA+L to read where I’m on in the menú, list or whatever.
When I restart it (I assigned it a shortcut of nvda+Shift+Control+N,
it solves itself out, but a few minutes later, the same thing happens!
Which is kind of starting to drive me crazy! Any ideas?




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Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I had to compact my trash folder last night and it didn't have thousands of messages.



On 2/25/2019 8:40 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

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Re: Windows10.1803 Having to restart NVDA every so often to get it to stay focused?

Pascal Lambert <coccinelle86@...>
 

No it does not.

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 11:29 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows10.1803 Having to restart NVDA every so often to get it to stay focused?

 

Hi,

Does restarting without any add-ons help?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pascal Lambert
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 8:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows10.1803 Having to restart NVDA every so often to get it to stay focused?

 

Hi All,

I am having the same problem no matter what voice I am using.  I have to restart NVDA so often because is starts stuttering and sputtering or goes silent.  This is happening on both my Acer and HP laptops both have 8GB RAM. This is also happening with the latest version of NVDA and prior versions.  I have on both laptops Windows version 1809 built 17763.  I do not believe the problem, is my sound card as I have no problems when I am playing music or listening to an E-book. This is getting very frustrating.  Your help is greatly appreciated.

Blessings

Pascal

P.S.  I have restarted NVDA 4 times while writing this message!

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 11:05 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Windows10.1803 Having to restart NVDA every so often to get it to stay focused?

 

Lately, I’ve had to restartNVDA every so often, to get it back focused on what’s supposed to do; to read the screen! Sometimes I’m working along, in apps like Windows10 Mail, Windows Explorer or others, and suddenly while arrowing around, it doesn’t read, having to invoke the Read Line NVDA+L to read where I’m on in the menú, list or whatever. When I restart it (I assigned it a shortcut of nvda+Shift+Control+N, it solves itself out, but a few minutes later, the same thing happens! Which is kind of starting to drive me crazy! Any ideas?

 

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Re: Emailing: NVDA Excel losing focus

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Nothing useful, Im afraid!

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 12:05 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Emailing: NVDA Excel losing focus

 

What happens if you use read current line when speech starts?  I don't use Excel (spelling) but in general, if I use something like browser mode search on an Internet page or elsewhere and excess verbiage is spoken, as it usually is, using read current line immediately reads what is found.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 2:43 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Emailing: NVDA Excel losing focus

 

Quentin,

 

Thanks, the double tap of the left alt key does bring back the focus.

 

It begins with a lengthy statement:

ribbon tab tab control expanded. Home tab alt h, 2 of 13

before stating the cell contents!

 

Despite the verbiage, That is much better than swapping out and back which involves a delay because the workbook is very big.

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 4:03 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Emailing: NVDA Excel losing focus

 

Hi Cearbhall,

 

Excel is mostly behaving for me, however, I did find sometimes using F5 to jump between cells, particularly when it changes pages, it sometimes loses focus like you found, although mine didn't throw up errors like yours.  When it does lose focus in Excel, you should be able to press ALT twice quickly to get the focus back.  I was sure we had an issue for it, probably several, but they are hiding from me this afternoon, so I can't check where they are at.  I will keep looking.

 

Quentin.

 

On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 12:00 AM Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

Most lists don't allow attachments for security reasons.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 5:48 AM

Subject: [nvda] Emailing: NVDA Excel losing focus

 

Quentin and friends,

I apologise for sending this several times. It seems that the system,
somewhere, will not allow the log file to remain attached so I am pasting it
to the bottom of the message and sending it again. I hope you forgive the
long message that results!

Here is the issue:

I wonder if you can help me with this problem?

I am running Windows 10, Office 365, and the latest NVDA. I am working on an
Excel worksheet where I have three panels of data that must correlate in
various ways.     One of the tasks is to compare the contents of cells in
columns "K", "Z" and "AK for the same row.

When I press F5 to go to, say, K19, NVDA echoes the contents of the cell
perfectly and I can review the data under the numpad key 5 .
I then press F5 again and type in AK19 and press enter to reach that cell.
NVDA does not call out the contents of the cell but focusses on the top of
the screen and will not be moved for love or money!
I then press alt+tab to swap out of Excel elsewhere and press alt+tab again
to get back into excel. Now NVDA reports the contents of the cell and I can
review the contents under the numpad 5 key.
Pressing F5 again, brings me back to the K19 cell and this time NVDA does
not focus on the cell and so I must switch away and back again with alt+tab
to read the cell contents.

This is the repeated pattern. Occasionally, NVDA does echo the target cell
on landing but more often than not, it does not do so.

I have attached the log file but all I can see in it are errors and no sign
of my keystrokes.

I tried these steps with JAWS and each cell is echoed perfectly. I take it,
then, that Windows is working perfectly.
Is this a known bug in NVDA?
Is there an options setting that I should set?

All advice welcome!

All the best,

Cearbhall

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

Here is the log file:
INFO - __main__ (23:02:40.913):
Starting NVDA
INFO - core.main (23:02:41.256):
Config dir: C:\Users\Cearbhall\AppData\Roaming\nvda
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (23:02:41.256):
Loading config: C:\Users\Cearbhall\AppData\Roaming\nvda\nvda.ini
INFO - core.main (23:02:41.444):
NVDA version 2018.4
INFO - core.main (23:02:41.444):
Using Windows version 10.0.17134 workstation
INFO - core.main (23:02:41.444):
Using Python version 2.7.15 (v2.7.15:ca079a3ea3, Apr 30 2018, 16:22:17) [MSC
v.1500 32 bit (Intel)]
INFO - core.main (23:02:41.444):
Using comtypes version 1.1.3
INFO - core.main (23:02:41.444):
Using configobj version 5.1.0 with validate version 1.0.1
DEBUGWARNING - touchHandler.touchSupported (23:02:41.631):
No touch devices found
INFO - synthDriverHandler.setSynth (23:02:42.461):
Loaded synthDriver eloquence
INFO - core.main (23:02:42.461):
Using wx version 4.0.3 msw (phoenix) wxWidgets 3.0.5
INFO - brailleInput.initialize (23:02:42.467):
Braille input initialized
INFO - braille.initialize (23:02:42.467):
Using liblouis version 3.7.0
INFO - braille.BrailleHandler.setDisplayByName (23:02:42.471):
Loaded braille display driver noBraille, current display has 0 cells.
WARNING - core.main (23:02:42.512):
Java Access Bridge not available
INFO - _UIAHandler.UIAHandler.MTAThreadFunc (23:02:42.536):
UIAutomation: IUIAutomation5
DEBUGWARNING - inputCore.InputManager.loadLocaleGestureMap (23:02:44.267):
No locale gesture map for language en
DEBUGWARNING - inputCore.InputManager.loadUserGestureMap (23:02:44.267):
No user gesture map
DEBUGWARNING - touchHandler.touchSupported (23:02:44.328):
No touch devices found
DEBUGWARNING - Python warning (23:02:44.542):
C:\Users\Cearbhall\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\remote\globalPlugins\remoteCl
ient\configuration.py:5: DeprecationWarning: Importing validate directly is
deprecated. Please use configobj.validate instead
INFO - core.main (23:02:45.365):
NVDA initialized
DEBUGWARNING - characterProcessing._getSpeechSymbolsForLocale
(23:02:45.382):
No CLDR data for locale en_UK
DEBUGWARNING - RPC process 7160 (SearchUI.exe) (23:02:48.476):
Thread 7520, build\x86_64\remote\ia2Support.cpp,
IA2Support_inProcess_initialize, 121:
disabling IA2 support

DEBUGWARNING - RPC process 7668 (ShellExperienceHost.exe) (23:02:51.595):
Thread 10536, build\x86_64\remote\ia2Support.cpp,
IA2Support_inProcess_initialize, 121:
disabling IA2 support

DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:02:54.650):
Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:
  File "nvda.pyw", line 217, in <module>
  File "core.pyo", line 515, in main
  File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
  File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 963, in Notify
  File "core.pyo", line 485, in run
  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 897, in pumpAll
  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 620, in processGenericWinEvent
  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 524, in winEventToNVDAEvent
  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 378, in isUIAWindow
  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 366, in _isUIAWindowHelper

DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:02:56.904):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 66800, objectID -4 and childID
0: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect
INFO - config.ConfigManager._loadConfig (23:02:57.153):
Loading config:
C:\Users\Cearbhall\AppData\Roaming\nvda\profiles\spreadsheet.ini
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelBase._getDropdown
(23:02:57.194):
Could not locate dropdown list in previous objects
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:02:57.364):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 66984, objectID 12 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:02:57.367):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 66984, objectID 6 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:03:07.131):
Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:
  File "nvda.pyw", line 217, in <module>
  File "core.pyo", line 515, in main
  File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
  File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 963, in Notify
  File "core.pyo", line 485, in run
  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 897, in pumpAll
  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 620, in processGenericWinEvent
  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 524, in winEventToNVDAEvent
  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 378, in isUIAWindow
  File "_UIAHandler.pyo", line 366, in _isUIAWindowHelper

DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (23:03:09.135):
Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:
  File "nvda.pyw", line 217, in <module>
  File "core.pyo", line 515, in main
  File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
  File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 963, in Notify
  File "core.pyo", line 486, in run
  File "queueHandler.pyo", line 86, in pumpAll
  File "queueHandler.pyo", line 53, in flushQueue
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 62, in _queueEventCallback
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 155, in executeEvent
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 92, in __init__
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
  File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 908, in event_typedCharacter
  File "speech.pyo", line 679, in speakTypedCharacters
  File "api.pyo", line 248, in isTypingProtected
  File "baseObject.pyo", line 34, in __get__
  File "baseObject.pyo", line 115, in _getPropertyViaCache
  File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 782, in _get_isProtected
  File "baseObject.pyo", line 34, in __get__
  File "baseObject.pyo", line 115, in _getPropertyViaCache
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 1071, in _get_states
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 738, in
_prefetchUIACacheForPropertyIDs

DEBUGWARNING - eventHandler.executeEvent (23:03:12.355):
error executing event: typedCharacter on <NVDAObjects.UIA.ListItem object at
0x068AD290> with extra args of {'ch': u'\r'}
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 155, in executeEvent
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 92, in __init__
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
  File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 908, in event_typedCharacter
  File "speech.pyo", line 679, in speakTypedCharacters
  File "api.pyo", line 248, in isTypingProtected
  File "baseObject.pyo", line 34, in __get__
  File "baseObject.pyo", line 115, in _getPropertyViaCache
  File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 782, in _get_isProtected
  File "baseObject.pyo", line 34, in __get__
  File "baseObject.pyo", line 115, in _getPropertyViaCache
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 1071, in _get_states
  File "NVDAObjects\UIA\__init__.pyo", line 738, in
_prefetchUIACacheForPropertyIDs
COMError: (-2147220991, 'An event was unable to invoke any of the
subscribers', (None, None, None, 0, None))
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IA2WindowHandle
(23:03:12.638):
IAccessible2::windowHandle failed: (-2147467259, 'Unspecified error', (None,
None, None, 0, None))
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible.__init__ (23:03:12.648):
Resorting to WindowFromPoint on accLocation
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IA2WindowHandle
(23:03:12.716):
IAccessible2::windowHandle failed: (-2147467259, 'Unspecified error', (None,
None, None, 0, None))
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible.__init__ (23:03:12.717):
Resorting to WindowFromPoint on accLocation
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IA2WindowHandle
(23:03:13.559):
IAccessible2::windowHandle failed: (-2147467259, 'Unspecified error', (None,
None, None, 0, None))
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible.__init__ (23:03:13.562):
Resorting to WindowFromPoint on accLocation
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IA2WindowHandle
(23:03:17.036):
IAccessible2::windowHandle failed: (-2147467259, 'Unspecified error', (None,
None, None, 0, None))
DEBUGWARNING - Python warning (23:03:19.766):
C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\library.zip\keyboardHandler.py:511:
DeprecationWarning: Yield() is deprecated
DEBUGWARNING - Python warning (23:03:19.766):
C:\Program Files (x86)\NVDA\library.zip\api.py:274: DeprecationWarning:
Yield() is deprecated
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:19.766):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 131 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:19.766):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 133 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:20.470):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 139 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:20.470):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 140 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:20.470):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 142 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:28.325):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 144 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelBase._getDropdown
(23:03:28.364):
Could not locate dropdown list in previous objects
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:28.484):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 175 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:28.484):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 176 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:28.484):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 177 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:28.489):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 178 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:28.489):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 179 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:28.489):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 180 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:28.489):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 181 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:28.489):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 182 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:28.489):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 183 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:28.489):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 184 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:28.489):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 223 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:28.489):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 186 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:37.490):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 230 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:37.490):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 320 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:37.490):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 323 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:37.490):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 324 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:37.490):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 327 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:37.490):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 328 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:37.490):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 330 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:37.490):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 2147483647 and
childID 1: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:37.490):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 2147483647 and
childID 2: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:37.500):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 350 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:37.500):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 344 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING -
NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelBrowseModeTreeInterceptor._get_isAlive
(23:03:40.201):
could not compare sheet names
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "NVDAObjects\window\excel.pyo", line 452, in _get_isAlive
  File "comtypesMonkeyPatches.pyo", line 35, in new__getattr__
  File "comtypes\client\lazybind.pyo", line 168, in __getattr__
  File "comtypes\automation.pyo", line 729, in _invoke
COMError: (-2147418111, 'Call was rejected by callee.', (None, None, None,
0, None))
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:43.065):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 720986, objectID -4 and childID
5: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:43.118):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 356 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:43.118):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 354 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:43.118):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 442 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:43.118):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 445 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:43.118):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 446 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:43.118):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 449 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:43.118):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 450 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:43.118):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 453 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:43.134):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 454 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:43.134):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 461 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelBase._getDropdown
(23:03:43.173):
Could not locate dropdown list in previous objects
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:43.286):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 481 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:43.286):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 475 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:50.282):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 486 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:50.283):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 500 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:50.285):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 494 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:50.285):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 488 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:51.148):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 506 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:51.148):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 507 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:51.148):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 525 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:51.148):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 517 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:51.148):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 509 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:54.016):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 532 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:54.016):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 579 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:54.016):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 580 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:54.026):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 583 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:54.026):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 584 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:54.026):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 586 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:54.026):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 587 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:54.026):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 2147483647 and
childID 1: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:54.026):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 2147483647 and
childID 2: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:54.026):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 611 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:54.026):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 601 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:56.048):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 618 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:56.048):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 665 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:56.048):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 666 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:56.048):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 669 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:56.048):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 670 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:56.048):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 672 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:56.048):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 673 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:56.048):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 2147483647 and
childID 1: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:56.048):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 2147483647 and
childID 2: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:56.058):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 701 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:56.058):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 695 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:57.197):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 708 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:57.197):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 755 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:57.197):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 756 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:57.197):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 759 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:57.197):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 760 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:57.197):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 762 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:57.197):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 763 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:57.197):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 2147483647 and
childID 1: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:57.197):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 2147483647 and
childID 2: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:57.207):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 787 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:57.207):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 777 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:58.022):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 793 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:58.244):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 805 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:03:58.244):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 799 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING -
NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelBrowseModeTreeInterceptor._get_isAlive
(23:03:59.503):
could not compare sheet names
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "NVDAObjects\window\excel.pyo", line 452, in _get_isAlive
  File "comtypesMonkeyPatches.pyo", line 35, in new__getattr__
  File "comtypes\client\lazybind.pyo", line 168, in __getattr__
  File "comtypes\automation.pyo", line 729, in _invoke
COMError: (-2147418111, 'Call was rejected by callee.', (None, None, None,
0, None))
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:04.174):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 262252, objectID -4 and childID
5: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:04.275):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 811 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:04.275):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 809 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:04.275):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 896 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:04.275):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 899 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:04.275):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 900 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:04.275):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 903 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:04.275):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 904 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:04.275):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 907 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:04.275):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 908 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:04.275):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 915 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelBase._getDropdown
(23:04:04.328):
Could not locate dropdown list in previous objects
DEBUGWARNING -
NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelBrowseModeTreeInterceptor._get_isAlive
(23:04:09.213):
could not compare sheet names
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "NVDAObjects\window\excel.pyo", line 452, in _get_isAlive
  File "comtypesMonkeyPatches.pyo", line 35, in new__getattr__
  File "comtypes\client\lazybind.pyo", line 168, in __getattr__
  File "comtypes\automation.pyo", line 729, in _invoke
COMError: (-2147418111, 'Call was rejected by callee.', (None, None, None,
0, None))
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:12.256):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 197100, objectID -4 and childID
5: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:12.302):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 964 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:12.318):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 959 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:12.318):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 957 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:12.318):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 997 and childID
0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:12.318):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1000 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:12.318):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1001 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:12.318):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1004 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:12.318):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1005 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:12.318):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1008 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:12.318):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1009 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:12.325):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1012 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:12.325):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1013 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:12.325):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1020 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:20.865):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1038 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelBase._getDropdown
(23:04:20.895):
Could not locate dropdown list in previous objects
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:21.006):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1056 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:21.006):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1044 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING -
NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelBrowseModeTreeInterceptor._get_isAlive
(23:04:25.884):
could not compare sheet names
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "NVDAObjects\window\excel.pyo", line 452, in _get_isAlive
  File "comtypesMonkeyPatches.pyo", line 35, in new__getattr__
  File "comtypes\client\lazybind.pyo", line 168, in __getattr__
  File "comtypes\automation.pyo", line 729, in _invoke
COMError: (-2147418111, 'Call was rejected by callee.', (None, None, None,
0, None))
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:26.611):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 48301500, objectID -8 and
childID 0: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:26.671):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1067 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:26.671):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1062 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:26.671):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1060 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:26.671):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1100 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:26.681):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1103 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:26.681):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1104 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:26.681):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1107 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:26.681):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1108 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:26.681):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1111 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:26.681):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1112 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:26.681):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1115 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:26.681):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1116 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:26.681):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1123 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:33.898):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1153 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelBase._getDropdown
(23:04:33.928):
Could not locate dropdown list in previous objects
DEBUGWARNING -
NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelBrowseModeTreeInterceptor._get_isAlive
(23:04:39.108):
could not compare sheet names
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "NVDAObjects\window\excel.pyo", line 452, in _get_isAlive
  File "comtypesMonkeyPatches.pyo", line 35, in new__getattr__
  File "comtypes\client\lazybind.pyo", line 168, in __getattr__
  File "comtypes\automation.pyo", line 729, in _invoke
COMError: (-2147418111, 'Call was rejected by callee.', (None, None, None,
0, None))
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:41.723):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 132762, objectID -4 and childID
5: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:41.786):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1179 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:41.786):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1174 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:41.786):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1172 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:41.786):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1212 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:41.786):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1215 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:41.786):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1216 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:41.786):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1219 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:41.786):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1220 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:41.786):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1223 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:41.786):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1224 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:41.786):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1227 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:41.786):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1228 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:41.786):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1235 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:46.788):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1261 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelBase._getDropdown
(23:04:46.822):
Could not locate dropdown list in previous objects
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:46.937):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1278 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:46.937):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1267 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING -
NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelBrowseModeTreeInterceptor._get_isAlive
(23:04:51.917):
could not compare sheet names
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "NVDAObjects\window\excel.pyo", line 452, in _get_isAlive
  File "comtypesMonkeyPatches.pyo", line 35, in new__getattr__
  File "comtypes\client\lazybind.pyo", line 168, in __getattr__
  File "comtypes\automation.pyo", line 729, in _invoke
COMError: (-2147418111, 'Call was rejected by callee.', (None, None, None,
0, None))
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:52.842):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 329370, objectID -8 and childID
0: [Error -2147024809] The parameter is incorrect
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:52.903):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1289 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:52.911):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1284 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:52.911):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1282 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:52.911):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1322 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:52.911):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1325 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:52.911):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1326 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:52.911):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1329 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:52.911):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1330 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:52.911):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1333 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:52.911):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1334 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:52.911):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1337 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:52.911):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1338 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:52.911):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1345 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - IAccessibleHandler.accessibleObjectFromEvent (23:04:57.441):
oleacc.AccessibleObjectFromEvent with window 67262, objectID 1375 and
childID 0: [Error -2147467259] Unspecified error
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.window.excel.ExcelBase._getDropdown
(23:04:57.492):
Could not locate dropdown list in previous objects

That is the end fo the log file! Any ideas?


 

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Re: Windows10.1803 Having to restart NVDA every so often to get it to stay focused?

Adriano Barbieri
 

Hi,


I would try to restart nvda without the addons to see if it is one of these that causes the problem

Then enabling them one by one.


Regards

Adriano


Il 25/02/2019 17:27, Pascal Lambert ha scritto:

Hi All,

I am having the same problem no matter what voice I am using.  I have to restart NVDA so often because is starts stuttering and sputtering or goes silent.  This is happening on both my Acer and HP laptops both have 8GB RAM. This is also happening with the latest version of NVDA and prior versions.  I have on both laptops Windows version 1809 built 17763.  I do not believe the problem, is my sound card as I have no problems when I am playing music or listening to an E-book. This is getting very frustrating.  Your help is greatly appreciated.

Blessings

Pascal

P.S.  I have restarted NVDA 4 times while writing this message!

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 11:05 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Windows10.1803 Having to restart NVDA every so often to get it to stay focused?

 

Lately, I’ve had to restartNVDA every so often, to get it back focused on what’s supposed to do; to read the screen! Sometimes I’m working along, in apps like Windows10 Mail, Windows Explorer or others, and suddenly while arrowing around, it doesn’t read, having to invoke the Read Line NVDA+L to read where I’m on in the menú, list or whatever. When I restart it (I assigned it a shortcut of nvda+Shift+Control+N, it solves itself out, but a few minutes later, the same thing happens! Which is kind of starting to drive me crazy! Any ideas?

 

                                                                                              Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10

 

Re: Thunderbird and trash

Sarah k Alawami
 

I've never had this issue. I've removed thousands of messages to the trash and never yet compacted. Knock on wood of corse.

On 25 Feb 2019, at 5:57, Adriano Barbieri via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi to every body,


Version 60.5.1,

I'm forced to compact / empty the basket every 4 or 5 messages deleted, otherwise Thunderbird does not delete others.It only happens to me?

What can be done to solve?

Thanks!


Regards

Adriano


Re: Windows10.1803 Having to restart NVDA every so often to get it to stay focused?

Jackie
 

The other thing to check, folks, is whether you have audio effects
turned on. This seems to cause NVDA real problems.

On 2/25/19, Joseph Lee <@joslee> wrote:
Hi,

Does restarting without any add-ons help?

Cheers,

Joseph



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pascal Lambert

Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 8:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows10.1803 Having to restart NVDA every so often to
get it to stay focused?



Hi All,

I am having the same problem no matter what voice I am using. I have to
restart NVDA so often because is starts stuttering and sputtering or goes
silent. This is happening on both my Acer and HP laptops both have 8GB RAM.
This is also happening with the latest version of NVDA and prior versions.
I have on both laptops Windows version 1809 built 17763. I do not believe
the problem, is my sound card as I have no problems when I am playing music
or listening to an E-book. This is getting very frustrating. Your help is
greatly appreciated.

Blessings

Pascal

P.S. I have restarted NVDA 4 times while writing this message!



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
[mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 11:05 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Windows10.1803 Having to restart NVDA every so often to get
it to stay focused?



Lately, I’ve had to restartNVDA every so often, to get it back focused on
what’s supposed to do; to read the screen! Sometimes I’m working along, in
apps like Windows10 Mail, Windows Explorer or others, and suddenly while
arrowing around, it doesn’t read, having to invoke the Read Line NVDA+L to
read where I’m on in the menú, list or whatever. When I restart it (I
assigned it a shortcut of nvda+Shift+Control+N, it solves itself out, but a
few minutes later, the same thing happens! Which is kind of starting to
drive me crazy! Any ideas?




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Add-on Updater 19.03 #addonrelease

 

Hi all,

 

Add-on Updater 19.03 is now available. This release includes some localization updates and adds Outlook Extended add-on to list of add-ons enabled for update checks.

Cheers,

Joseph

Re: Windows10.1803 Having to restart NVDA every so often to get it to stay focused?

 

Hi,

Does restarting without any add-ons help?

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Pascal Lambert
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 8:28 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Windows10.1803 Having to restart NVDA every so often to get it to stay focused?

 

Hi All,

I am having the same problem no matter what voice I am using.  I have to restart NVDA so often because is starts stuttering and sputtering or goes silent.  This is happening on both my Acer and HP laptops both have 8GB RAM. This is also happening with the latest version of NVDA and prior versions.  I have on both laptops Windows version 1809 built 17763.  I do not believe the problem, is my sound card as I have no problems when I am playing music or listening to an E-book. This is getting very frustrating.  Your help is greatly appreciated.

Blessings

Pascal

P.S.  I have restarted NVDA 4 times while writing this message!

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 11:05 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Windows10.1803 Having to restart NVDA every so often to get it to stay focused?

 

Lately, I’ve had to restartNVDA every so often, to get it back focused on what’s supposed to do; to read the screen! Sometimes I’m working along, in apps like Windows10 Mail, Windows Explorer or others, and suddenly while arrowing around, it doesn’t read, having to invoke the Read Line NVDA+L to read where I’m on in the menú, list or whatever. When I restart it (I assigned it a shortcut of nvda+Shift+Control+N, it solves itself out, but a few minutes later, the same thing happens! Which is kind of starting to drive me crazy! Any ideas?

 

                                                                                              Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10

 

Re: Thunderbird and trash

Adriano Barbieri
 

Thanks  Brayan, but the problem is, why the trash can't work normally?

It seems that the trash folder has a limit of 10/12 messages only at a time.

I also tried to repair it from its properties, but the problem persists and it is quite frustrating to delete 70 or more messages, always having to compact or empty this trash folder.

Other ideas?


Regards

Adriano


Il 25/02/2019 17:03, Brian Vogel ha scritto:

Adriano, 

          See:  https://www.hampshire.edu/it/thunderbird-compacting-folders

or the source material used to write it:  http://kb.mozillazine.org/Compacting_folders
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A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

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Re: Windows10.1803 Having to restart NVDA every so often to get it to stay focused?

Pascal Lambert <coccinelle86@...>
 

Hi All,

I am having the same problem no matter what voice I am using.  I have to restart NVDA so often because is starts stuttering and sputtering or goes silent.  This is happening on both my Acer and HP laptops both have 8GB RAM. This is also happening with the latest version of NVDA and prior versions.  I have on both laptops Windows version 1809 built 17763.  I do not believe the problem, is my sound card as I have no problems when I am playing music or listening to an E-book. This is getting very frustrating.  Your help is greatly appreciated.

Blessings

Pascal

P.S.  I have restarted NVDA 4 times while writing this message!

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gerardo Corripio
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 11:05 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Windows10.1803 Having to restart NVDA every so often to get it to stay focused?

 

Lately, I’ve had to restartNVDA every so often, to get it back focused on what’s supposed to do; to read the screen! Sometimes I’m working along, in apps like Windows10 Mail, Windows Explorer or others, and suddenly while arrowing around, it doesn’t read, having to invoke the Read Line NVDA+L to read where I’m on in the menú, list or whatever. When I restart it (I assigned it a shortcut of nvda+Shift+Control+N, it solves itself out, but a few minutes later, the same thing happens! Which is kind of starting to drive me crazy! Any ideas?

 

                                                                                              Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10

 

Re: spelling back a suggested word in Word 2010 on a laptop with the numpad?

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!

Have you set your keyboard layout in NVDA to Laptop?
If yes, please see the commands quick guide in the NVDA, Help menu...

Rui Fontes


Às 16:09 de 25/02/2019, Dan Thompson escreveu:

Good morning,
How can I review the suggested word in Word 10’ spellchecker if the laptop does not have a Numpad?
Thank you very much for any help.

spelling back a suggested word in Word 2010 on a laptop with the numpad?

Dan Thompson
 

Good morning,

How can I review the suggested word in Word 10’ spellchecker if the laptop does not have a Numpad?

 

Thank you very much for any help.

 

Windows10.1803 Having to restart NVDA every so often to get it to stay focused?

Gerardo Corripio
 

Lately, I’ve had to restartNVDA every so often, to get it back focused on what’s supposed to do; to read the screen! Sometimes I’m working along, in apps like Windows10 Mail, Windows Explorer or others, and suddenly while arrowing around, it doesn’t read, having to invoke the Read Line NVDA+L to read where I’m on in the menú, list or whatever. When I restart it (I assigned it a shortcut of nvda+Shift+Control+N, it solves itself out, but a few minutes later, the same thing happens! Which is kind of starting to drive me crazy! Any ideas?

 

                                                                                              Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10

 

Re: Thunderbird and trash

 

Adriano, 

          See:  https://www.hampshire.edu/it/thunderbird-compacting-folders

or the source material used to write it:  http://kb.mozillazine.org/Compacting_folders
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 

Re: Having troubles to play with a website

 

On Mon, Feb 25, 2019 at 07:45 AM, marcio wrote:
Seems like the problem is with Firefox.
It shouldn't be, at least not with Firefox Quantum 65.0.1.    If I do exactly what I did in Chrome under Firefox, I get precisely the same result.

That being said, trying another browser is, as Gene noted, the first diagnostic step one should take.  There are absolutely a number of sites, when used with a screen reader, that don't "play well" with one browser and are just fine with another.
 
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Re: Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

Jaffar Sidek
 

Hi.  I didn't find anything in the dropbox options menu to stop notifications, which I find especially annoying as i am a paying customer.  ☹.

On 2/25/2019 11:38 PM, Gene wrote:
It isn't clear to me if this discussion is relevant. 
But the message that talks about possibly stopping all notifications may be helpful.  Each comment is preceded by a line with the word menu.  Searching for this word will efficiently get you from one answer to the next.  A lot of people are disgusted by these notifications and Dropbox will have to address the problem, as you will see.
 
I didn't find anything about Snooze notifications by searching for snooze notifications Dropbox.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 9:19 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

When it opens it acts just like the tray, ie pressing space gives a menu.
One of the options on the menu that I've never heard of is snooze
notifications. Could this be a new feature which uses inaccessible display
routines. so we need somebody to go on the web site for us and report this
problem in accessibility. Somebody on here must be sighted and able to help
their web site is rather unfriendly so I have given up on the thing going
around in circles.


If somebody can look at preferences who has a working preferences system,
unlike my windows 7, could they look for this snooze function? It seems you
can stop dropbox for some minutes hours or till the next day. Not really
sure what on earth is the point in alerting people that its not active when
the whole point of dropbox as it just does its thing. I can understand it on
a portable app, where mobile data is a t a premium and you may only want it
to update on wifi, but for goodness sake the mobile app is not an off line
solution unless you pay for it on mobiles its basically just looking at the
web site. These are two different use cases.


Seems crazy if this is what it is.

 It would also explain why my  people at the studio have been having some
odd things going on on recordings if programs are shoving windows up for no
apparent reason and mouse clickers close them and  muck up the recording in
the process.

 Its been fine for years, if its not bust dont fix it.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "marcio via Groups.Io" <marcinhorj21@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups


> On my side, I have a feeling that I'm getting the same window, although
> it's not as the firs poster described.
> It's more like yours, Brian, it opens mostly when the Windows starts
> and, every now and then, randomly.
> I just don't know what this window is about, so I'm not sure it's the
> same. May well be so, though.
>
> Cheers,
> Marcio
> Follow or add me on Facebook <https://facebook.com/firirinfonfon>
>
> Em 25/02/2019 06:17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io escreveu:
>> I mentioned this a couple of weeks ago, only at the moment its only at
>> start up. If I leave it for about three mins then it can be closed,
>> but not until. Last time it was according to a friend a picture of a
>> cartoon dog promoting one of the paid for services, such as business
>> services. I'm getting the impression that they are short of money and
>> need moor of us to pay. Now they are not making any friends by this
>> sort of nagging are they?
>>
>> Its even worse if the nag screen does not contain any readable text.
>> I do have worries though as we use dropbox a lot for talking
>> newspapers and if this goes on some of us will be looking for
>> something less inaccessible
>>
>> I only have version 67 here so maybe this mess is on the latest version.
>> Brian
>>
>> bglists@...
>> Sent via blueyonder.
>> Please address personal E-mail to:-
>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
>> in the display name field.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Scholes"
>> <james@...>
>> To: <nvda@groups.io>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 3:32 PM
>> Subject: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups
>>
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I'm running Dropbox v68.3.92. Approximately every half an hour or
>>> so, NVDA's focus is being moved to a Dropbox window which only seems
>>> to contain a single, blank edit field. The window doesn't seem to
>>> stay on the screen, but focus isn't returned to where it was
>>> previously after it disappears. In fact, NVDA reports it as taking
>>> up a rectangle of 0 pixels, so I don't know if anything shows up
>>> visually on the screen at all.
>>>
>>> As you can imagine, having to dismiss these boxes several times per
>>> day is irritating. Does anybody have a work-around?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> James Scholes
>>> https://twitter.com/JamesScholes
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>



Re: Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

Gene
 

It isn't clear to me if this discussion is relevant. 
But the message that talks about possibly stopping all notifications may be helpful.  Each comment is preceded by a line with the word menu.  Searching for this word will efficiently get you from one answer to the next.  A lot of people are disgusted by these notifications and Dropbox will have to address the problem, as you will see.
 
I didn't find anything about Snooze notifications by searching for snooze notifications Dropbox.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 9:19 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

When it opens it acts just like the tray, ie pressing space gives a menu.
One of the options on the menu that I've never heard of is snooze
notifications. Could this be a new feature which uses inaccessible display
routines. so we need somebody to go on the web site for us and report this
problem in accessibility. Somebody on here must be sighted and able to help
their web site is rather unfriendly so I have given up on the thing going
around in circles.


If somebody can look at preferences who has a working preferences system,
unlike my windows 7, could they look for this snooze function? It seems you
can stop dropbox for some minutes hours or till the next day. Not really
sure what on earth is the point in alerting people that its not active when
the whole point of dropbox as it just does its thing. I can understand it on
a portable app, where mobile data is a t a premium and you may only want it
to update on wifi, but for goodness sake the mobile app is not an off line
solution unless you pay for it on mobiles its basically just looking at the
web site. These are two different use cases.


Seems crazy if this is what it is.

 It would also explain why my  people at the studio have been having some
odd things going on on recordings if programs are shoving windows up for no
apparent reason and mouse clickers close them and  muck up the recording in
the process.

 Its been fine for years, if its not bust dont fix it.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "marcio via Groups.Io" <marcinhorj21@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups


> On my side, I have a feeling that I'm getting the same window, although
> it's not as the firs poster described.
> It's more like yours, Brian, it opens mostly when the Windows starts
> and, every now and then, randomly.
> I just don't know what this window is about, so I'm not sure it's the
> same. May well be so, though.
>
> Cheers,
> Marcio
> Follow or add me on Facebook <https://facebook.com/firirinfonfon>
>
> Em 25/02/2019 06:17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io escreveu:
>> I mentioned this a couple of weeks ago, only at the moment its only at
>> start up. If I leave it for about three mins then it can be closed,
>> but not until. Last time it was according to a friend a picture of a
>> cartoon dog promoting one of the paid for services, such as business
>> services. I'm getting the impression that they are short of money and
>> need moor of us to pay. Now they are not making any friends by this
>> sort of nagging are they?
>>
>> Its even worse if the nag screen does not contain any readable text.
>> I do have worries though as we use dropbox a lot for talking
>> newspapers and if this goes on some of us will be looking for
>> something less inaccessible
>>
>> I only have version 67 here so maybe this mess is on the latest version.
>> Brian
>>
>> bglists@...
>> Sent via blueyonder.
>> Please address personal E-mail to:-
>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
>> in the display name field.
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "James Scholes"
>> <james@...>
>> To: <nvda@groups.io>
>> Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 3:32 PM
>> Subject: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups
>>
>>
>>> Hi all,
>>>
>>> I'm running Dropbox v68.3.92. Approximately every half an hour or
>>> so, NVDA's focus is being moved to a Dropbox window which only seems
>>> to contain a single, blank edit field. The window doesn't seem to
>>> stay on the screen, but focus isn't returned to where it was
>>> previously after it disappears. In fact, NVDA reports it as taking
>>> up a rectangle of 0 pixels, so I don't know if anything shows up
>>> visually on the screen at all.
>>>
>>> As you can imagine, having to dismiss these boxes several times per
>>> day is irritating. Does anybody have a work-around?
>>>
>>> Regards,
>>>
>>> James Scholes
>>> https://twitter.com/JamesScholes
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>



Re: Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

When it opens it acts just like the tray, ie pressing space gives a menu. One of the options on the menu that I've never heard of is snooze notifications. Could this be a new feature which uses inaccessible display routines. so we need somebody to go on the web site for us and report this problem in accessibility. Somebody on here must be sighted and able to help their web site is rather unfriendly so I have given up on the thing going around in circles.


If somebody can look at preferences who has a working preferences system, unlike my windows 7, could they look for this snooze function? It seems you can stop dropbox for some minutes hours or till the next day. Not really sure what on earth is the point in alerting people that its not active when the whole point of dropbox as it just does its thing. I can understand it on a portable app, where mobile data is a t a premium and you may only want it to update on wifi, but for goodness sake the mobile app is not an off line solution unless you pay for it on mobiles its basically just looking at the web site. These are two different use cases.


Seems crazy if this is what it is.

It would also explain why my people at the studio have been having some odd things going on on recordings if programs are shoving windows up for no apparent reason and mouse clickers close them and muck up the recording in the process.

Its been fine for years, if its not bust dont fix it.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "marcio via Groups.Io" <marcinhorj21=yahoo.com.br@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 10:18 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups


On my side, I have a feeling that I'm getting the same window, although
it's not as the firs poster described.
It's more like yours, Brian, it opens mostly when the Windows starts
and, every now and then, randomly.
I just don't know what this window is about, so I'm not sure it's the
same. May well be so, though.

Cheers,
Marcio
Follow or add me on Facebook <https://facebook.com/firirinfonfon>

Em 25/02/2019 06:17, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io escreveu:
I mentioned this a couple of weeks ago, only at the moment its only at
start up. If I leave it for about three mins then it can be closed,
but not until. Last time it was according to a friend a picture of a
cartoon dog promoting one of the paid for services, such as business
services. I'm getting the impression that they are short of money and
need moor of us to pay. Now they are not making any friends by this
sort of nagging are they?

Its even worse if the nag screen does not contain any readable text.
I do have worries though as we use dropbox a lot for talking
newspapers and if this goes on some of us will be looking for
something less inaccessible

I only have version 67 here so maybe this mess is on the latest version.
Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
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----- Original Message ----- From: "James Scholes"
<james@...>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 3:32 PM
Subject: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups


Hi all,

I'm running Dropbox v68.3.92. Approximately every half an hour or
so, NVDA's focus is being moved to a Dropbox window which only seems
to contain a single, blank edit field. The window doesn't seem to
stay on the screen, but focus isn't returned to where it was
previously after it disappears. In fact, NVDA reports it as taking
up a rectangle of 0 pixels, so I don't know if anything shows up
visually on the screen at all.

As you can imagine, having to dismiss these boxes several times per
day is irritating. Does anybody have a work-around?

Regards,

James Scholes
https://twitter.com/JamesScholes







Re: Problem with windows10 OCR and NVDA

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!
I think there are more, but I have this one:

Assunto: [nvda] A Text Tutorial on the Mail, People, and Calendar Apps from David Moore
De: "David Moore" <jesusloves1966@...>
Data: 15/08/2017 23:33
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Hi all,

Here, pasted right in this message, is a very understandable, easy to follow, and a step by step tutorial that I did on the Win10 Mail, People, and Calendar Apps.

Please let me know if you have any questions as you do the steps that are in the tutorial.

Here it is, pasted right below:

Here is the start of the tutorial.

Tutorial on the Win10 Mail, People, and Calendar Apps

By

David Moore

All key commands for all three apps, Mail, People, and Calendar, are at the end of this tutorial.

Intruduction:



I will Let you know this first. When you import your email accounts into the win10 Mail app,

your contacts are automatically imported into the People app. All calendar information, is imported into the Calendar app.

So, if you want to work with your contacts, you have to do so in the people app and not the mail app. Think of it like this. Three apps work together to give you that MS outlook client experience.

The people app has all of your contacts. The mail app is where you work with and send your email messages. The Calendar app has all of your appointments and much more.

Now, while you are in the win10 mail app, you can switch to the Calendar app or the People app.

Many of the commands are the same as in WLM.

Mail for Windows 10 supports most types of email services. You can add any of these Microsoft accounts:

Exchange, Office 365, Outlook.com, Hotmail, Live.com, and MSN.com. You can also add any of these accounts:

Gmail, Yahoo Mail, iCloud, or an account with a POP or IMAP server.



Section One

Launching the Windows 10 Mail App

So, let us consider how you can launch the mail app for the first time. The way I did it, was to press the windows key or CTRL+Escape and type mail. I heard windows mail app trusted windows store app.

Now, press enter, and the mail app will open. There you go, you have launched the mail app for the first time. The first time you open Mail, you'll land on the Welcome screen. Press Enter on Get Started. Now, you are ready to start using the Win10 Mail App. If you have a Microsoft Account, your MS email account should already be imported into the mail app.



Section Two:

Putting the Mail, Calendar, and People apps on your Desktop, or pinning them to your taskbar:

Finally, let us begin to learn how to use these three apps.

You may want to pin all three apps, Mail, Calendar, and People, to your taskbar, or put them on your desktop as short cuts.

To put them as short cuts on your Desktop, press Windows key+R to open the run dialog.

just type:

shell:appsfolder

In a second, all of your apps will be in a list. Just press the first letter of the one you want until you hear, Mail, for example.

Now, press your applications key or Shift+F10.

Now, press the up arrow key once to hear:

Create short cut.

Enter on that, and you will hear:

Short cut cannot be created here, do you want to put it on the desktop instead?

Just press enter, and the Mail app will be on your Desktop.

To pen it to the taskbar, just press the Windows Key or CTRL+Escape and type Mail, for example.

When you hear Mail, just press the appllications key or Shift+F10 and arrow down to:

Pin to taskbar and press enter.

The Mail app will be on your Taskbar.

You can do the same for the Calendar and People apps.



Section Three

A Few Key Commands to get started:

Here are a few commands to use the mail app. Tab key: The tab key will get you anywhere you need to go in the mail app. Also, F6 will take you to different sections of the app. These three apps, mail, people, and calendar apps have been made so accessible, that you can use the PC cursor with JAWS. Also, no object navigation needs to be done in these three apps with NVDA. Narrator works great as well.

When you read messages with Narrator, Scan mode needs to be activated by pressing:

Caps Lock+Spacebar.

That command toggles the Scan Mode on and off with Narrator.

You only want to turn on Scan Mode to read messages.

You want it off the rest of the time. Even when you type a message, Scan Mode needs to be turnned off.

Scan Mode is just for reading.

When a message is opened with JAWS, you are put in a virtual viewer so you can use the virtual cursor, just like in a web page.

Now, to work with messages:

to send your message, press

alt+S.

To reply to a message:

press ctrl+R.

to forward a message:

press CTRL+F.

to create a new message:

press CTRL+N.

As you type the email address, choices will populate to choose from.

To insert an attachment, press Alt+I.

You can then brows for the file you want to attach.

All other key commands for all three of these apps, will be put at the end of this tutorial.



Section Four:

Importing your first account into the Mail App

Now, let us add our first account.

From the list of messages for your MS account, tab to manage accounts and press enter.

If you do not have an MS email account imported in to the Mail app, just Tab to Manage Accounts and press enter.

Next, tab to the Add account button and press enter.

You will be in a list of account types you can add. In the Choose an account dialog, use the Down Arrow key to go through the list of account types (Outlook.com, Exchange, Google, Yahoo Mail, and so

on). When you hear the name of your account type, press Enter. For example, if you want to add a Gmail account, press enter on Google. Next, Enter the email address for the account that you want to add. Now, tab to the password box, and enter your password.

Press the Tab key to move to the Sign in button and press enter.

Now, press enter again on the:

done button.

Your email account should import into the Mail app in seconds, and your emails will be in your in box from the last three months.

Now, if it does not work to import an account by choosing Google, for example, any account will import into this choice:

Go to the account choice:

other account, IMAP or POP.

Any account, Pop or IMAP, will import under this choice, even a Google account.

Only a few POP email Accounts will have to be imported by hand with all of the settings.

For most accounts, your email and password will be enough to import the account.

The last account choice, is the advanced account. Enter on this last choice if you need to enter in all of your account settings by hand.

The only reason why you need the advanced account choice is to import a few older POP 3 accounts and set them up by hand.

To import all of your accounts:

Just follow the same instructions written above.

You will need to press enter on Manage Accounts, and enter on Add account, for each account you import.

It is important that you know that your contacts for your accounts, are imported into the People app.

You can get to the People App right from the Mail app.

Also, all calendar data partaning to your accounts, is imported into the Calendar App.

This is how all three apps work together to give you the entire Email Client experience.

After you add your accounts, notice in the manage accounts menu, you will see a choice to link accounts. This means, that you could have all messages from all of your accounts go into one inbox. I would not do this. Each account should have its own inbox.

Now, let us press enter on one of the accounts that you just added and see what happens.

If you press enter on one of your accounts, there is a choice to delete the account if you decide you do not want it in the mail app anymore.

Also, if you press enter on the sync settings, you will see that your emails from three months ago will import. You can change this if you want.

Also, You can change some settings about how the emails are synced in the mail app, but I would not mess with that at all.

Now, just press escape to get out of that, and you will be back in your list of accounts. Press escape to close the manage accounts pane.

We are all done with the Manage accounts option.



Section Five:

Navigating the Maiol App with the Tab Key

Now, we have all of our accounts imported intothe Mail App.

Make sure that you are on a folder list of messages for one of your accounts.

A list of messages will be our starting point, and we will begin to tab.

Now I will Tab.

I am on my list of emails for my MS Outlook account.

Tabbing:

I hear Navigation button collapsed.

You want to press enter to hear:

Navigation button expanded.

If you do not do this, you will not see everything in the Mail app.

Tab again, and you hear:

New Mail Button.

This is what you activate by pressing the key command:

CTRL+N

You do not need this button.

Tab: and you hear:

Manage accounts.

That is where we just were when you imported and customized all of your email accounts.

Tab:

You will see a list of all of your accounts once you import them into the Mail app.

If you press enter on an account, the In Box of messages for that account will open and you are put in the inbox of messages.

Now, we will tab from your list of accounts.

You have Folders Button.

Sub Section:

Folders Button.

When you press enter on Folders Button, there is a lot you can do in here.

In this Sub Section, We will talk about all you can do after you press enter on Folders Button.

Press enter on Folders Button:

The first thing you will be on, is a virticle list of all of your folders for that email account.

You can just up and down arrow to the folder you want, and press enter.

You are then put right in the list of messages for that folder.

Instead of pressing enter on a folder, if you tab once, you can press enter on:

Create New Folder

As soon as you press enter, you have to type in the name of the new folder.

This will create a new folder for that account.

This is all in the Folders Button.

Press enter on Folders Button, again, if you are not still in that pane.

On your list of folders, you can arrow to a folder, and press:

Applications Key or Shift+F10.

You can now down arrow through the following choices:

Add to Favorites Button

Pressing Enter will put that folder on your favorites list of folders, so you do not have to keep coming into the Folders Button to find a folder.

Next choice when pressing applications Key:

, Create new subfolder Button

Pressing enter on that choice, will allow you to create a sub folder under that main folder you arrowed to.

As soon as you press enter, you have to type in the name of the sub folder, and press enter.

The third choice:

Rename Button

The fourth choice:

Delete Button

Pressing enter there wil delete the folder.

Fifth Choice:

Move Button

Sixth Choice:

Empty folder Button

Seventh and last Choice:

Pin to Start Button

To review:

When you arrow to a folder, you can press:

Applications Key or Shift+F10,

and you get a menu of seven choices listed above.

You can press enter on any of those choices to do the action that it says.

We are all done with the Folders Button.

Now, make sure that you are on the Folders Button, and we will start tabbing again.

If you tab from the Folders Button,

You are on your list of Favorite Folders I mentioned.

You can just arrow down through this list of folders that you chose to be your favorite folders.

You do not have to enter on the Folders Button to get to these.

They are right here in a list.

I have my In Box folder, Sent Folder, Trash Folder, and a Saved folder that I created, in my Favorites list.

I keep those four folders in that favorites list, so I do not have to keep pressing enter on the Folders Button to get to those Folders.

I can just tab over to this list of four folders that I use the most.

Pressing enter on one of those four folders will put me right in the list of messages for that folder.

You always get put right on the list of messages when you enter on any folder.

Now, we will tab from this favorites list, and we get:

Moore Button.

This is the exact copy of the Folders Button LOL!

Forget the More Button LOL!

Tab again:

Switch to Calendar Button:

Tab:

Switch to People Button:

Pressing enter on one of those buttons, will Open one of those apps.

You can have all three opened at the same time.

Tab:

Settings Button:



Sub Section:

We have important stuff here, if we press enter on Settings Button, so this will be another sub section, like Folders Button.

Settings Button

Press Enter on Settings Button.

Now, let us look at the settings in the mail app. There are some settings that you might want to change or work with in these groups of settings . The two groups of settings you should open are the reading and signature settings. Do not mess with the other groups of settings.

Reading Settings

There are two choices you might want to change in this settings group.

You can check or uncheck carrot browsing.

I would leave carrot browsing unchecked in the reading settings group.

Now, in this reading group, there is also a button that turns on and off conversation view.

You definitely want this button checked, because your messages will be grouped into their respective threads.

You can delete the entire thread if your messages are in conversation view.

Press enter on the back button to close the reading group.

Each group of Settings has a back button you can press enter on to get out of that group, and you are taken back to the groups of settings.

Signature Settings Group:

This is the only other group of settings where you need to do anything.

Press Enter on Signature Settings.

In here, you can add a signature, or check all accounts to have the same signature

If you check to have a signature, and press Tab, there is a signature that is there by default.

It says:

sent from mail for windows 10.

If you want to create your own signature, check the signature, and over right that default signature to add your own signature you want to appear after every message that you send.

You can have different signatures for each account, or have the same signature for all accounts by checking all accounts.

If you want no signature, you can just press Spacebar to uncheck the signature toggle.

Press the Back Button, to get out of the Signature Settings Group.

If you press:

Escape

You are back on the Settings Button, where we were tabbing across the Mail App.

That is pretty much all I would worry about in settings.

There are just a few more tabs, before we are back to the list of messages.

Tab from Settings Button:

There is a search edit box.

If you type any name, or phrase, and so on in that search box,

it will narrow down the list of email messages that have that Name or phrase in them.

This is a great way to find a particular message very quickly.

I use this a lot.

You can get right to that search box,

by pressing:

CTRL+E

You do not have to tab to that LOL!

Tab, and you have:

Sync this View Button.

If you press that, your messages will load more quickly, but they load quickly anyway for me, and I do not have to press enter on that:

sync this View button.

Tab again, and you have:

Enter Selection Mode Button.

This is important.

When you press enter on that button, you are on your list of messages in that folder, but now, there is a difference.

There is now a check box before each message that you can press spacebar on to check that message. You can check as many messages as you want.

Now, if you shift tab twice, you are back to where the:

Enter sellection Mode Button was.

Now, there is a check box there that says, Select all, check box not checked.

you can press spacebar to check all of your messages. You have to tab twice to get back to the list of messages, but now, they are all checked.

After you check messages, you can press the:

applications Key or Shift+F10

and you will have the following choices:

Archive, Delete, Move, and a few less important choices in that context menu.

If you press enter on delete, all messages that are selected will be deleted. If you press enter on move, your list of all folders come up, and you can move your selected messages to another folder.

Just press enter on the folder, and the selected messages are moved to that folder.



Section Six:

Working with your messages:

Now, we can start working with with our email messages for what ever account you pick from the list of accounts. All the accounts will be in a virticle list, and you just press enter on what ever account you want to work with, and you will be placed in the inbox and the messages will load.

Here we go LOL!

Let us arrow through the messages in the inbox and read some of our messages.

Just enter on the message you want to open. To read messages with NVDA, you must be in brows mode.

When you type a message, you must be in focus mode.

The only time you want to be in Brows Mode, is to read the messages. To attach a file to the message, for example, you want to be in Focus mode with NVDA.

With Narrator, you want to be in scan mode to read messages.

To do everything else, even type a message, you need to turn off scan mode. Narrator works very well with the mail app.

Now, with JAWS, you are put in a virtual environment just like on the Internet. The virtual PC cursor, will allow you to select and copy information that is right in the message.

when you are done reading that message, just press escape to get out of the message and back to the list of messages

You do not have to do anything with JAWS to do all that you want to do in the mail app, even type a message.

Now, let me give you some important key commands right here.

tab gets you anywhere in the mail app you want to be. Tabbing will get you to the list of your accounts, and the folders button, that you enter on to get a full list of folders for that account. When you are on the list of folders, tab to the more button and press enter to do more with your folders, like create a new folder. To create a sub folder for a particular folder Tab to the more button again, and press enter. Down arrow to creat a sub folder. and arrow to which folder you want to create the sub folder for and tab to create, and press enter. . Now, you can type the name of the sub folder you want, and press enter. That is how you create a sub folder of a folder that is already there. When you are on a message in the list, you can press the applications key or shift+F10 and get choices of what you can do with that message. One of these choices is move. If you enter on move, you will get a list of folders you can move that message to. I created a folder called saved messages. So when I want to save a message, I just move the message to my saved messages folder. If you press delete, the message goes in the trash folder. To send a message, press ctrl+N. You are put in the to: edit box. Just type in the email, tab to subject, and tab to write your message. To send a message, press Alt+S, and you are back on the list of messages in your inbox. After you open a message and read it, you can reply to it by pressing CTRL+R. Just type your message, and press alt+S to send your reply. You will be in the list of messages, and just press the delete key to delete that message. To forward a message, just press ctrl+F. To spell check your message before sending, just press F7.

Tabs on the ribbon of the mail app:

Here we go with the ribbon. When you are in a message, three tabs show up on the ribbon. Just press the alt key to get to the ribbon. The first tab you will hear is the format tab. Right arrow to the insert tab, and right arrow again to the third and last tab, the options tab. Now, if you press alt a second time while you are still in the mail app, you will be on the tab that you were last working with. If you were working with the options tab lastly, the options tab will show up, and you will have to left arrow to get back to insert and format. You do wrap around in a circle with a couple of other choices in there as you wrap. On any of these tabs, just press the down arrow to get to all of the choices for that tab. Then, press tab to tab through all of the choices. For example, to insert an attachment into an email, press the alt key, and arrow to the insert tab. Then, press the down arrow, and you are right on the files choice. It will not say attach, this is very important. Pressing down arrow on the insert tab, allows you to insert different things into your email. Remember, you can just press:

Alt+I to attach a file.

To attach anything else, you must go to the insert tab on the ribbon. The ribbon is not important, unless you want to insert different things into the email, or if you want to format the email.

Other choices to insert, are table, link, and so on. These are different things that you can insert in your email. Press enter on files, and you can brows your computer to find a file to insert or attach, and press enter on the open button. Now, you are put back on your message you are composing. If you press Shift+tab one time, you will be on your file that you attached to your email. That is how people will find your attachments. They will just shift tab to hear all of the files you inserted or attached to your email. Now, Use Shift+Tab again to move focus to the subject line, and press Shift+Tab again to hear the sender’s name. In other words, when you are in a message, press Shift+tab to hear all of the information like the subject, the sender, the time and date, and so on. There are not key commands to read this information to you like in other clients. When you finish reading the message, press the Escape key to return to the message list. That is the key. If you just press escape, you go back to your list of messages. If you press delete on a message in the list, it goes to the trash folder right away. Now, if you select some text in your email, just press alt, and arrow to the format tab, and press down arrow to the format choices if you want to format your email. just tab through the choices. There are many, you can do about anything here to format your email text. For example, if you down arrow on the format tab, there will be choices to bold, underline, and to do other things to the text that you select in your email that you are composing. Now, for the options tab, the third and last tab, you will not need to use, but feel free to check out the options. The option for Spell Checking, is the same as pressing F7 in your message. Now, here is the thing about spell checking in the mail app. You can go to the win10 settings app, by pressing windows+I to have win10 correct much of your spelling as you type. This only works though, in a win10 app. The mail app qualifies for that. So, in settings, arrow to the devices group and press enter. Then, go to the type choice and press enter. Check two check boxes. The first says something like correct spelling, and the second one says something like high light words that are misspelled. Check those two check boxes and press enter. Now, when you are in the mail app, most of the words will be automatically corrected as you type them. However, this feature will not correct all misspelled words. This is where you press F7 to do a total spell check. Important: There is not a way to have the mail app spell check every message automatically when you send it like with WLM. You definitely have to spell check every message that you compose before you send it just like with each document in Word.

Well, we have covered everything with the mail app itself.

Now, I will show you quickly how to use the people app and calendar app, and then you can use all three apps together as one email client.

People app:

Launch the People app, and tab a few times. You will tab by a new button, where you can manually enter the information for a new contact. If you tab passed the new button, you will come to a list of contacts. You cannot use first letter navigation to jump to a certain contact, but here is what you can do. Tab one more time, and you will be in a list of letters of the alphabet. Again, you cannot use first letter navigation, like you can now use in the all apps. Just arrow down to the letter you want, and shift+tab back to the list of contact starting with that letter. Find the name you want, and tab a few more times. There will be an edit where you can edit the contact's information. Tab passed that, and you will come to profile. Tab one more time, and you will be on their email. To copy that email, you have to press the applications key, or shift+F10, and press enter on copy. You will then have that person's email copied to the clip board. You can go to the mail app, and paste that into the to: edit box to send them an email. That is it with the people app. Remember, your contacts are imported into the people app. As you type an email into the mail app, the populated choices come from the people app.

Calendar app:

Launch the calendar app, and press alt+ctrl+4 to get into month view. You are put on a grid of days of the week. You will land on to day. It will say the date as well. For example, you will hear Friday, October 28. You also hear how many events are linked with that day, like birthday's of your contacts and so on. Tab to each event, and press enter on the event to get the details of the event. If you shift+tab, you will go back to the day of those events. If you press right and left arrow, you will go forward a day or back a day. Up arrow takes you a week before from that day, and downarrow takes you a week ahead of that day. If you want to schedule an event for a certain day, just press enter on that day, and a dialog will come up for you to enter all of the information for the appointment or event, and there is an okay or done button. There you go! That is how you read days, the events for those days, and how to schedule an event for that day. That is about it for the calendar app.



Here are many keyboard shortcuts to use all three apps:

Account Manual Sync (Send and retrieve new mail)

CTRL+M

Or

F9

Mark as read

CTRL+Q

Mark as unread

CTRL+U

Toggle the important property on a conversation

CTRL+SHIFT+G

Delete a conversation

CTRL+D

Or

DEL

Archive a conversation

BACKSPACE

Reply to current mail

CTRL+R

Reply all

CTRL+SHIFT+R

Forward current mail

CTRL+F

Search

CTRL+E

Or

F3

Create a new mail

CTRL+N

Or

CTRL+SHIFT+M

Add Attachment

ALT+I

Send mail

ALT+S

Or

Ctrl + Enter

Switch to Inbox

CTRL+SHIFT+I

Switch to Outbox

CTRL+SHIFT+O

Zoom in

CTRL++ (Plus key on numpad)

Zoom out

CTRL+- (Minus key on numpad)

Move between regions

F6

Toggle Caret Browsing

F7

Key commands for the Calendar app:

Accept Meeting Invitation

Alt+C

Decline Meeting Invitation

Alt+D

Tentative Meeting Invitation

Alt+N

Move to View

CTRL+SHIFT+V

Switch to the calendar in the mail app

CTRL+2



Well, I hope you get so much good out of this tutorial , and you can get a lot out of using the mail app, people, and calendar apps. You can do a lot with three apps. I would pin all three of them to the taskbar, and have them all opened at the same time

Take care,

David Moore



Sent from Mail for Windows 10