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Re: NVDA podcast or representative

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

That is what I think he is talking about. He would prefer having someone to talk to in a type of interview so that blind persons in Jamaica can be informed about what is available. They get no support from their government at all.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 9:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA podcast or representative

 

Hmmph you could always try the coolblindtech guys not sure if they would exactly do a cast on nvda necessarily but its worth a shot.

The guy may even get a spotlight cast back, its been a long time since they actuall broadcast anything themselves though there are articles and stuff going up every week so they aren't down and out.

For our own materials we aren't to shabby.

We have audio tutorials, whatsnews and nvda con archive casts as well as promo videos and the like joseph lee has done.

Could it be possible for us to have enough material to set something up if not a cast for ourselves we have enough archived materials  to blow our own trumpet.

Now I do co admin a site that does casts on a few things, but I use nvda for myself and not for everything under the sun.

Saying this, if this guydoesn't mind interviews himself or even depending on things a cast on something, tech@... is the guy's address of the guy that makes the cast I co run.

Weather he wants to do whatever is his call though I am just a site admin with a few articles thrown in.

We are looking for things to cast though, as its mostly security breaches and some braille and app casts on various things.

I havn't really had anything audio related to contribute for a little though.

 

 

On 27/02/2019 3:24 PM, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote:

Earlier I was speaking with the President of the Montego Bay Society for the Blind. He is looking to speak with someone on his internet station or get permission to play a podcast that gives information about NVDA. His name is Robert Blake. Who can I put him in contact with?


Points arising

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The invisible window in Dropbox.
1, see my new thread containing the dropbox ticket and the offer to send them other peoples experiences.
and, I just disabled dropbox own update routing by calling it dropboxold.exe in the program files x 86 sub folder for updates and thus far I've not seen the window. I wonder if it might be an alert to tell you its downloading an update to the software but is inaccessible so we do not see the message?
2:
Issues of nvda missing events. I would suggest everyone who has this as an issue fills out a ticket on the github issue tracker. Somebody may then see it and add it to existing issues of the same type. at the moment while catching up this morning it seems that this has many different faces, and could be all part of the same problem, but of course may not be, so unless folk report them nothing will get done.
I remember reporting the first of these some time ago now, and to be honest the problem has actually become worse in some cases like opening a folder or launching a browser but there are nearly always no smoking guns visible in the log, and disabling add ons is inconclusive as sometimes just restarting nvda will fix it for a while.
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Re: How to Select a Link While n Browse Mode

Jackie
 

& there are some times when neither enter or spacebar work to activate
a link. In cases like that, you either employ the elements list (NVDA
f7), choose the element/object you want, & activate it, or use object
navigation. Sometimes you find doing that that there are 2 objects
there, only 1 of which works for activation purposes.

On 2/27/19, Cohn, Jonathan <jcohn@air.org> wrote:
OK, when in browse mode, after NVDA has read a link, if you press enter then
to the best of my knowledge NVDA will move the mouse to the location of the
link and then perform a pseudo click.  If the link (or occasionally) parts
of the link are off screen this action can sometimes fail. Is this perhaps
what you are experiencing.



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Re: Extraneous text in Windows Settings after 1809 upgrade

molly the blind tech lover
 

Hi.

I get the same thing when I open the settings app on my laptop and my tablet. Not sure why this is happening lol.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris Mullins
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 7:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Extraneous text in Windows Settings after 1809 upgrade

 

Hi

I have just upgraded from Windows 1803 to 1809 and now when I use the ~Windows Settings app I hear the following :

 

CN=Microsoft Windows, O=Microsoft Corporation, L=Redmond, S=Washington, C=US

 

It sounds like the type of thing a developer would put into a program when debugging to check variable contents at a particular point in execution.  Does anyone else get this?

 

Cheers

Chris


Re: How to Select a Link While n Browse Mode

Jonathan COHN
 

OK, when in browse mode, after NVDA has read a link, if you press enter then to the best of my knowledge NVDA will move the mouse to the location of the link and then perform a pseudo click.  If the link (or occasionally) parts of the link are off screen this action can sometimes fail. Is this perhaps what you are experiencing. 


Re: Hearing "Unknown" when Using a Mouse

Jonathan COHN
 

This is most likely NVDA telling you the name of the mouse cursor. Did you perchance use a custom cursor in a MouseOver? Generally, I just look for the mouse type to change when I pay attention to it. Also, if it is the mouse announcement, then when you move off the check box you should hear “pointer”, “hand” or other such descriptions.

 

 

From: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of bestuiexperience <bestuiexperience@...>
Reply-To: "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Date: Monday, February 25, 2019 at 10:13 PM
To: "nvda@nvda.groups.io" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Subject: [nvda] Hearing "Unknown" when Using a Mouse

 

I am a software developer trying to develop accessible software. I am working with some checkboxes that always announce "unknown" before announcing the label. This occurs only in forms mode and only when using a mouse (which I understand some NVDA users do). Any clue as to what might be causing the issue?


Re: Brave Browser

 

Great! I remember asking on that thread if there would be this one for Windows, but I guess they didn't let me post because this wasn't about Android :(
Anyway, going to test it now!
Em 27/02/2019 09:24, Mallard escreveu:

Hello list,


Thanks to Jacob Kruger, who posted about this browser on  the eyes-free Android list, I discovered Brave Browser.


It's a Chrome-based browser with an ad-blocker already embedded.


It's very fast and, as far as I've been able to see up to now (I've only tried it for a day or so), it's very accessible with NVDA.


If someone with better testing abilities than I have would like to have a go at it, and then post their findings here, it can be found at:


https://brave.com


I've mainly used it in Android for now, but I have installed it in Windoes as well, and there's also a version for Linux, if anyone's interested.


I hope this can be another browser to choose from.


Ciao,

Ollie







Extraneous text in Windows Settings after 1809 upgrade

Chris Mullins
 

Hi

I have just upgraded from Windows 1803 to 1809 and now when I use the ~Windows Settings app I hear the following :

 

CN=Microsoft Windows, O=Microsoft Corporation, L=Redmond, S=Washington, C=US

 

It sounds like the type of thing a developer would put into a program when debugging to check variable contents at a particular point in execution.  Does anyone else get this?

 

Cheers

Chris


Re: Staying in Forms for Checkboxes

Gene
 

Here is a thorough explanation of combo boxes in terms of opening them.  It is a little long but many people may find it useful.
 
The command to open a combo box is alt down arrow.  But you first have to be in forms mode.  You can manually go into forms mode, then issue the command alt down arrow.  If the combo box makes the screen-reader automatically go into forms mode, you still have to open the combo box.  The two actions are completely separate.
 
Some combo boxes don't have to be opened.  Some do.  If you are in a combo box that needs to be opened, trying to move in the combo box will cause it to take an action.  For example, if you are in a list of states, down arrowing will cause the combo box to do something, such as open a page or register the state you have moved to as the one you want and take you out of forms mode and put you back in browse mode again.  If you open such combo boxes, you can move up and down as much as you want and no action will be taken until you press enter or, I believe tab may cause the action to be taken as well.
 
In combo boxes that don't require opening, yu can move up and down as often as you want with no action being taken.  Some people go into forms mode at a combo box and then issue the open command.  That is so that no combo box will take an action they don't want taken.
 
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Subject: Re: [nvda] Staying in Forms for Checkboxes

Can you have it manually switch between browse and focus modes without it automatically opening a combo box when you come to one? having it do so in a combo box is why I don't have it manually switch between the two. System Access, the screen reader I previously used, would automatically allow you to start typing in an edit box, but when you got to a combo box or a drop-down menu, you had to hit alt+d I believe. I don't recall now if that keystroke opened combo boxes or just drop-down menus, but anyway, when I started using NVDA, I had it set to automatically switch, but then, one time, I was shopping and ran into a combo box. Not realizing the thing had opened automatically, I nearly ended up buying way, way more than I'd intended to by inadvertently selecting a high number of whatever item it was I was trying to purchase. I don't even remember now what the item was, but I remember thinking, OK, I don't want this thing automatically opening the combo box and confusing the heck out of me! So I'm just wondering: Can you have it switch between browse and focus modes, while not automatically opening combo boxes. I'd rather open those myself. If not, I'll just keep it the way it is. It's nothing, really, to hit alt space when I need to write something. Only takes a second to do.

Annette

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On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 04:05 PM, Steve Nutt wrote:
ChromeVox
This reply is not meant as a "jumping down your throat," but once you get to an ecosystem other than Windows we're talking about an entirely different world.

You are not alone, however, in liking the automatic switching between modes.   I prefer it except in very specific circumstances, and those occur so seldom that I'd never make the default be manual switching.

Some of this comes from when different people began using screen readers, too, as at one time manual switching was the default.  It's all pretty much in what you got used to and comfortable with.
 
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Brave Browser

Mallard
 

Hello list,


Thanks to Jacob Kruger, who posted about this browser on  the eyes-free Android list, I discovered Brave Browser.


It's a Chrome-based browser with an ad-blocker already embedded.


It's very fast and, as far as I've been able to see up to now (I've only tried it for a day or so), it's very accessible with NVDA.


If someone with better testing abilities than I have would like to have a go at it, and then post their findings here, it can be found at:


https://brave.com


I've mainly used it in Android for now, but I have installed it in Windoes as well, and there's also a version for Linux, if anyone's interested.


I hope this can be another browser to choose from.


Ciao,

Ollie


Re: Re invisible annoying dropbox windows

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Further to the invisible window in dropbox. Those that have this issue. read this email from Dropbox and send any allied reports to me so I can forward them to the team at Dropbox.
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk


Ticket #8941340: Invisible windows appearing generated by dropbox for blind users
Iliana, Feb 26, 9:17 AM PST:
Hello Brian,

Thanks for contacting Dropbox Support! My name is Iliana, and I am happy to assist you with your screenreader issue.

We aim to make our services accessible for all users, so in order to troubleshoot this accessibility issue, I'll need you to provide as much of the following information as you can with as much detail as you can.

We will use this information to help our specialist team investigate and establish the cause of the behaviour.

1.
Please provide the step by step process you follow to get the error in question. Provide as many steps as possible.
2.
What system are you using? (for example Mac OSX El Capitan version 10.11.5)
3.
What browser are you using if the issue is appearing on the website? (for example Google Chrome version 50.0.2661.102)
4.
What accessibility software are you using? (for example VoiceOver on Mac)
5.
Any other information you think might be relevant.

Once I have this information, I will escalate it to our specialist team. Thanks in advance for your response.

Regards,
Iliana


So I'm happy to forward your reports. Include a valid email address in any emails you send to me so I can cut and paste them into the email I send them.
Thanks.
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Subject: [nvda] Re invisible annoying dropbox windows


Ticket #8941340: Invisible windows appearing generated by dropbox for blind users
Hey there,
Your question is safely in our support team's inbox. We'll reach out for more details or with a solution.
The Dropbox Support team


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Re: Fw: [Nvda-devel] NV Access accepted as a mentor organization in Google Summer of Code 2019

 

Wow, it's indeed good news!
GO NVDA!

Em 27/02/2019 05:41, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io escreveu:

As I saw this suggestion first on this  list, I thought I'd forwarded this message here as well for your delectation...
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Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 10:59 PM
Subject: [Nvda-devel] NV Access accepted as a mentor organization in Google Summer of Code 2019


Hi all,


NV Access can officially announce that it has been accepted as a mentor organization in this year's Google Summer of Code.

You can find us on the Google Summer of Code website at: https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/organizations/5317267756154880/


We look forward to reviewing student proposals starting at the end of march.


If you do have any questions about creating a proposal etc, please contact info@....


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Re: allied issue to - alt tab quits working at random when nvda is running

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Hi as I mentioned above. NVDA misses stuff, Sadly there is no smoking gun in the log.
In the log below, taken from the latest alpha build, you will observe I left a gap after pressing enter on a shortcut to open a folder in explorer.
I am reliably informed that the folder opened for sighted users almost immediately, but was only registered by nvda when later I pressed down arrow and woke it up to read the screen.

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (08:47:18.394):
Input: kb(desktop):s
IO - speech._speakSpellingGen (08:47:18.423):
Speaking character u's'
DEBUG - queueHandler.registerGeneratorObject (08:47:18.424):
Adding generator 6
IO - speech.speak (08:47:18.461):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'sound - Shortcut 67 of 76']
DEBUG - queueHandler.pumpAll (08:47:18.463):
generator 6 finished
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (08:47:22.194):
Input: kb(desktop):enter
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (08:47:43.441):
Input: kb(desktop):downArrow
IO - speech.speak (08:47:43.572):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'C:\\sound']
IO - speech.speak (08:47:43.585):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Items View list']
IO - speech.speak (08:47:43.595):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'000-general phone numbers for brians bitlowband-3.mp3 row 2 column 1 2 of 86']


I think a similar thing happens sometimes in alt tab and indeed in web browsers as well.

Its a lack of focus change or a lack of realisation of any changes on the screen. The gap here is only seconds but i could have left it several minutes. However if some other thing occurs, say a tray message change etc that seems to be announced.
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Subject: Re: [nvda] alt tab quits working at random when nvda is running


No you cannot go back that far. I was merely postulating that the effect might well be missed events of one sort or another by nvda for, as yet reasons unknown.
Brian

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From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] alt tab quits working at random when nvda is running


except I did not have explorer open. I had p3d, obs, firefox, project
fly, skype, I think my mail program and that was about it. Is there a
way retrieve the logs from 2 restarts of nvda ago or am I basically SOL
until it happens again. I really do want to submit the log for this if
possible.

On 26 Feb 2019, at 9:16, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

I also get this but put it down to the same issue like open an
Explorer window and nvda will not register its open yet it is open as
cursor down brings it to life. Same goes sometimes in web sites not
auto reading or indeed not showing having focus either unless you do
something like open a menu and close it

I think that there is a kind of slugging effect going on in all these
scenarios that makes nvda not get the event it needs to detect the
changes reliably.
Brian

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Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 5:03 PM
Subject: [nvda] alt tab quits working at random when nvda is running


Summary: when using alt tab to get from program to program, nvda
will
sometimes not an-ounce the program O'm on when holding alt and
hitting
tab

steps:

1. Launch nvda
2. Use nvda as normal and alt tab between many windows. I sometimes
have
between 5 and 10 running..
3. Notice that sometimes alt tab fails to speak the window I'm on but
when I let go after let's say hitting tab 3 times I will gain focus
on
that window.

Regression: I can regress this to some builds last year, although I
thought it was a windows issue so never actually reported it..

Expected results:

I should be able to see the windows that i'm alt tabbing through
instead of getting silence

Windows version 10 1809 updated last Saturday to the latest.
32 gigs of ram, 4.0 ghz processor and 64 bit architecture.

Work around:
Restarting nvda always works to bring my alt tab behavior back. I
just
shut off my computer last night so no logs will be apparent. Is there
a
way I can retrieve the log from the time before I restarted nvda and
before I shut down the computer?


This is random so I can't really say when this happens or give any
pattern to how to make this happen.







Re: alt tab quits working at random when nvda is running

 

hi.
i remember this issue in nvda 2017.3 dont have newer versions to test with.
but i returned to my favorite version 2017.2 and i dont have this
issue most of times.

On 2/26/19, Sarah k Alawami <marrie12@gmail.com> wrote:
Summary: when using alt tab to get from program to program, nvda will
sometimes not an-ounce the program O'm on when holding alt and hitting
tab

steps:

1. Launch nvda
2. Use nvda as normal and alt tab between many windows. I sometimes have
between 5 and 10 running..
3. Notice that sometimes alt tab fails to speak the window I'm on but
when I let go after let's say hitting tab 3 times I will gain focus on
that window.

Regression: I can regress this to some builds last year, although I
thought it was a windows issue so never actually reported it..

Expected results:

I should be able to see the windows that i'm alt tabbing through
instead of getting silence

Windows version 10 1809 updated last Saturday to the latest.
32 gigs of ram, 4.0 ghz processor and 64 bit architecture.

Work around:
Restarting nvda always works to bring my alt tab behavior back. I just
shut off my computer last night so no logs will be apparent. Is there a
way I can retrieve the log from the time before I restarted nvda and
before I shut down the computer?


This is random so I can't really say when this happens or give any
pattern to how to make this happen.



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Fw: [Nvda-devel] NV Access accepted as a mentor organization in Google Summer of Code 2019

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As I saw this suggestion first on this list, I thought I'd forwarded this message here as well for your delectation...
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To: "NVDA screen reader development" <nvda-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 10:59 PM
Subject: [Nvda-devel] NV Access accepted as a mentor organization in Google Summer of Code 2019


Hi all,


NV Access can officially announce that it has been accepted as a mentor organization in this year's Google Summer of Code.

You can find us on the Google Summer of Code website at: https://summerofcode.withgoogle.com/organizations/5317267756154880/


We look forward to reviewing student proposals starting at the end of march.


If you do have any questions about creating a proposal etc, please contact info@nvaccess.org.


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Re: Off topic does anyone know of any app for android that makes google maps accessible

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I'd suggest going to the blindphones list for this one.
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Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 5:25 PM
Subject: [nvda] Off topic does anyone know of any app for android that makes google maps accessible


As the subject line says this is off topic but is there any kind souls out there that would know off any android apps capable of accessing google maps to allow talk back to speak them.




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Re: alt tab quits working at random when nvda is running

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Its more often here, however, probably 7 times a day or so in one form or another.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 8:28 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] alt tab quits working at random when nvda is running


Darn. then the next time I turn on my computer it will be lost. I'll
have to reproduce the isue, then send the log over. I can wait. and yeah
this has happened now two times in the past 2 weeks.

Tc

On 26 Feb 2019, at 11:00, Tyler Spivey wrote:

You can only retrieve the log from one restart ago, at
%temp%\nvda-old.log.

This has been an ongoing, annoying problem for NVDA for years. It was
considerably worse before some UIA changes went in to 2018.4 (#7345).
I don't think I've seen it since it was fixed.

On 2/26/2019 9:29 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
except I did not have explorer open. I had p3d, obs, firefox, project
fly, skype, I think my mail program and that was about it. Is there a
way retrieve the logs from 2 restarts of nvda ago or am I basically
SOL until it happens again. I really do want to submit the log for
this if possible.

On 26 Feb 2019, at 9:16, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
wrote:

I also get this but put it down to the same issue like open an
Explorer window and nvda will not register its open yet it is
open
as cursor down brings it to life. Same goes sometimes in web
sites
not auto reading or indeed not showing having focus either unless
you do something like open a menu and close it

I think that there is a kind of slugging effect going on in all
these scenarios that makes nvda not get the event it needs to
detect
the changes reliably.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah k Alawami"
<marrie12@gmail.com>
To: "Nvda List" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 5:03 PM
Subject: [nvda] alt tab quits working at random when nvda is
running

Summary: when using alt tab to get from program to program,
nvda
will
sometimes not an-ounce the program O'm on when holding alt
and
hitting
tab

steps:

1. Launch nvda
2. Use nvda as normal and alt tab between many windows. I
sometimes have
between 5 and 10 running..
3. Notice that sometimes alt tab fails to speak the window
I'm
on but
when I let go after let's say hitting tab 3 times I will gain
focus on
that window.

Regression: I can regress this to some builds last year,
although I
thought it was a windows issue so never actually reported
it..

Expected results:

I should be able to see the windows that i'm alt tabbing
through
instead of getting silence

Windows version 10 1809 updated last Saturday to the latest.
32 gigs of ram, 4.0 ghz processor and 64 bit architecture.

Work around:
Restarting nvda always works to bring my alt tab behavior
back.
I just
shut off my computer last night so no logs will be apparent.
Is
there a
way I can retrieve the log from the time before I restarted
nvda and
before I shut down the computer?


This is random so I can't really say when this happens or
give any
pattern to how to make this happen.






Re: alt tab quits working at random when nvda is running

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I think though as we have no idea which accessibility api is in use in a given piece of software, the problem may well be due to one or more of the others not UIA.
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From: "Tyler Spivey" <tspivey@pcdesk.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 7:00 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] alt tab quits working at random when nvda is running


You can only retrieve the log from one restart ago, at %temp%\nvda-old.log.

This has been an ongoing, annoying problem for NVDA for years. It was considerably worse before some UIA changes went in to 2018.4 (#7345). I don't think I've seen it since it was fixed.

On 2/26/2019 9:29 AM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:
except I did not have explorer open. I had p3d, obs, firefox, project fly, skype, I think my mail program and that was about it. Is there a way retrieve the logs from 2 restarts of nvda ago or am I basically SOL until it happens again. I really do want to submit the log for this if possible.

On 26 Feb 2019, at 9:16, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

I also get this but put it down to the same issue like open an
Explorer window and nvda will not register its open yet it is open
as cursor down brings it to life. Same goes sometimes in web sites
not auto reading or indeed not showing having focus either unless
you do something like open a menu and close it

I think that there is a kind of slugging effect going on in all
these scenarios that makes nvda not get the event it needs to detect
the changes reliably.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah k Alawami"
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To: "Nvda List" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 5:03 PM
Subject: [nvda] alt tab quits working at random when nvda is running

Summary: when using alt tab to get from program to program, nvda
will
sometimes not an-ounce the program O'm on when holding alt and
hitting
tab

steps:

1. Launch nvda
2. Use nvda as normal and alt tab between many windows. I
sometimes have
between 5 and 10 running..
3. Notice that sometimes alt tab fails to speak the window I'm
on but
when I let go after let's say hitting tab 3 times I will gain
focus on
that window.

Regression: I can regress this to some builds last year, although I
thought it was a windows issue so never actually reported it..

Expected results:

I should be able to see the windows that i'm alt tabbing through
instead of getting silence

Windows version 10 1809 updated last Saturday to the latest.
32 gigs of ram, 4.0 ghz processor and 64 bit architecture.

Work around:
Restarting nvda always works to bring my alt tab behavior back.
I just
shut off my computer last night so no logs will be apparent. Is
there a
way I can retrieve the log from the time before I restarted nvda and
before I shut down the computer?


This is random so I can't really say when this happens or give any
pattern to how to make this happen.





Re: alt tab quits working at random when nvda is running

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No you cannot go back that far. I was merely postulating that the effect might well be missed events of one sort or another by nvda for, as yet reasons unknown.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 5:29 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] alt tab quits working at random when nvda is running


except I did not have explorer open. I had p3d, obs, firefox, project
fly, skype, I think my mail program and that was about it. Is there a
way retrieve the logs from 2 restarts of nvda ago or am I basically SOL
until it happens again. I really do want to submit the log for this if
possible.

On 26 Feb 2019, at 9:16, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

I also get this but put it down to the same issue like open an
Explorer window and nvda will not register its open yet it is open as
cursor down brings it to life. Same goes sometimes in web sites not
auto reading or indeed not showing having focus either unless you do
something like open a menu and close it

I think that there is a kind of slugging effect going on in all these
scenarios that makes nvda not get the event it needs to detect the
changes reliably.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah k Alawami"
<marrie12@gmail.com>
To: "Nvda List" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 5:03 PM
Subject: [nvda] alt tab quits working at random when nvda is running


Summary: when using alt tab to get from program to program, nvda
will
sometimes not an-ounce the program O'm on when holding alt and
hitting
tab

steps:

1. Launch nvda
2. Use nvda as normal and alt tab between many windows. I sometimes
have
between 5 and 10 running..
3. Notice that sometimes alt tab fails to speak the window I'm on but
when I let go after let's say hitting tab 3 times I will gain focus
on
that window.

Regression: I can regress this to some builds last year, although I
thought it was a windows issue so never actually reported it..

Expected results:

I should be able to see the windows that i'm alt tabbing through
instead of getting silence

Windows version 10 1809 updated last Saturday to the latest.
32 gigs of ram, 4.0 ghz processor and 64 bit architecture.

Work around:
Restarting nvda always works to bring my alt tab behavior back. I
just
shut off my computer last night so no logs will be apparent. Is there
a
way I can retrieve the log from the time before I restarted nvda and
before I shut down the computer?


This is random so I can't really say when this happens or give any
pattern to how to make this happen.