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Re: Staying in Forms for Checkboxes

Gene
 

I don't recall screen-readers I've used making such a distinction.  and in quick navigation keys, there is the letter c for move to next combo box but I don't recall any screen-reader I've used having a letter d command for move to next drop down box, nor any other letter command for it.  In NVDA, the letter d moves you to the next landmark. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 10:10 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Staying in Forms for Checkboxes

It's also important here to make a distinction, and it's not a trivial one, between a combo box and a dropdown box.

A dropdown box allows you to make a selection from the dropdown list - that's it.  You may, in some implementations, get away with using the first letter of a choice to get to it quickly, but that's the equivalent of arrowing down to it.  You can't change it in any way, only select it.

A true combo box, hence its name, is a merger of an edit box and a dropdown list.  You can type in a combo box and it will accept the input.  Some do edit checks afterward to ensure that what's there matches one of the items in the dropdown list (most common), while others intentionally don't, so that the end user can essentially give an input that is not one of those things.

I've actually never paid close attention to whether dropdowns and combos are announced differently, but I have to believe they are since their behaviors are, while related, distinctly different.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: Brave Browser

 

Does anyone know how to disable ad blocking for individual websites?


Re: Brave Browser

Sarah k Alawami
 

I'll have to see if this browser is for mac as well. I also might give it a play on windows and nvda as well to see if it is as good as people say it is. I know how to use chrome so the transition should not be rough.

For an android list in the making where android apps, accessibility, phones and development can be discussed  subscribe send a blank email to
androiddiscuss+subscribe@android-discuss.groups.io
and follow the prompts.
to visit the subgroups  and subscribe (note you must be subscribed to the main group as well) visit the following URL:
about-android.tffppodcast.com

On 27 Feb 2019, at 10:41, Devin Prater wrote:

Yeah, I unsubscribed from that list after the high and mighty Google guy
said people couldn't discuss the new Samsung phones on what has become
an Android list for blind people.
--
Devin Prater
r.d.t.prater@...

"molly the blind tech lover" <brainardmolly@...> writes:

I'm done with that list lol.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mallard
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 12:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Brave Browser

Hello Marcio,


Gosh, I'm so fed up with that "it isn't about Android"!!!

It's a stupid attitude, especially because that list has been going
strong for years without any Joe Blow telling us what to say and what
not to say...


Anyway, it's a great browser. Go for it!

Ciao,

Ollie




Il 27/02/2019 15:13, marcio via Groups.Io ha scritto:

Great! I remember asking on that thread if there would be this one for
Windows, but I guess they didn't let me post because this wasn't about
Android :( Anyway, going to test it now!

Cheers,
Marcio
Follow or add me on Facebook <https://facebook.com/firirinfonfon>

Em 27/02/2019 09:24, Mallard escreveu:

Hello list,


Thanks to Jacob Kruger, who posted about this browser on the
eyes-free Android list, I discovered Brave Browser.


It's a Chrome-based browser with an ad-blocker already embedded.


It's very fast and, as far as I've been able to see up to now (I've
only tried it for a day or so), it's very accessible with NVDA.


If someone with better testing abilities than I have would like to
have a go at it, and then post their findings here, it can be found at:


https://brave.com


I've mainly used it in Android for now, but I have installed it in
windows as well, and there's also a version for Linux, if anyone's
interested.


I hope this can be another browser to choose from.


Ciao,

Ollie





Re: Brave Browser

Devin Prater
 

Yeah, I unsubscribed from that list after the high and mighty Google guy
said people couldn't discuss the new Samsung phones on what has become
an Android list for blind people.
--
Devin Prater
r.d.t.prater@gmail.com

"molly the blind tech lover" <brainardmolly@gmail.com> writes:

I'm done with that list lol.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mallard
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 12:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Brave Browser

Hello Marcio,


Gosh, I'm so fed up with that "it isn't about Android"!!!

It's a stupid attitude, especially because that list has been going
strong for years without any Joe Blow telling us what to say and what
not to say...


Anyway, it's a great browser. Go for it!

Ciao,

Ollie




Il 27/02/2019 15:13, marcio via Groups.Io ha scritto:
Great! I remember asking on that thread if there would be this one for
Windows, but I guess they didn't let me post because this wasn't about
Android :( Anyway, going to test it now!

Cheers,
Marcio
Follow or add me on Facebook <https://facebook.com/firirinfonfon>

Em 27/02/2019 09:24, Mallard escreveu:
Hello list,


Thanks to Jacob Kruger, who posted about this browser on the
eyes-free Android list, I discovered Brave Browser.


It's a Chrome-based browser with an ad-blocker already embedded.


It's very fast and, as far as I've been able to see up to now (I've
only tried it for a day or so), it's very accessible with NVDA.


If someone with better testing abilities than I have would like to
have a go at it, and then post their findings here, it can be found at:


https://brave.com


I've mainly used it in Android for now, but I have installed it in
Windoes as well, and there's also a version for Linux, if anyone's
interested.


I hope this can be another browser to choose from.


Ciao,

Ollie









Re: Being Unsubscribed for Marking Messages as Spam #adminnotice

 

By the way, for any of you who want to know more about what's happening and why, there is an excellent Wiki Page on the Group Managers Forum that gives you the skinny.  For those who want more of the background on this, the actual mechanisms involved, and what you can do about it, please read:

      Members Removed for Marking Messages as Spam
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: Extraneous text in Windows Settings after 1809 upgrade

molly the blind tech lover
 

This text that NVDA reads, it seems to be gone from my machine today. Maybe a windows update fixed it?

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of bering.p
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 12:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Extraneous text in Windows Settings after 1809 upgrade

 

Hi,
Onmy Pc,with "windows+i" , I ear also  this words.
I don't think it's a live   region. It's the name of a static window.
This is the windows hierarchy:

niveau 1   windowClass: ApplicationFrameTitleBarWindow, name: Paramètres, role: fenêtre, description: , value: Paramètres   windowClass: Windows.UI.Core.CoreWindow, name: CN=Microsoft Windows, O=Microsoft Corporation, L=Redmond, S=Washington, C=US, role: fenêtre, description: , value: None  réduit  2 sur 4  niveau 1
 windowClass: ApplicationFrameTitleBarWindow, name: Paramètres, role: fenêtre, description: , value: Paramètres  3 sur 4  niveau 1
 windowClass: ApplicationFrameInputSinkWindow, name: None, role: inconnu, description: None, value:   4 sur 4  niveau 1

Cheers.

Paul.

Le 27/02/2019 16:59, Joseph Lee a écrit :

Hi,
A few weeks ago someone sent me a debug log of this problem, and it appears it is a live region text that is being read by NvDA. I can't reproduce this on my systems running 1809 and later, but that doesn't mean I have forgotten about this problem.
Cheers,
Joseph
 
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Felix G.
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 7:58 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Extraneous text in Windows Settings after 1809 upgrade
 
Same here. Seems to be system-specific, though, as it does not happen for all installations of 1809. Most curious.
Best,
Felix
 
Am Mi., 27. Feb. 2019 um 15:56 Uhr schrieb molly the blind tech lover
<brainardmolly@...>:
 
Hi.
 
I get the same thing when I open the settings app on my laptop and my tablet. Not sure why this is happening lol.
 
 
 
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris 
Mullins
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 7:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Extraneous text in Windows Settings after 1809 upgrade
 
 
 
Hi
 
I have just upgraded from Windows 1803 to 1809 and now when I use the ~Windows Settings app I hear the following :
 
 
 
CN=Microsoft Windows, O=Microsoft Corporation, L=Redmond, 
S=Washington, C=US
 
 
 
It sounds like the type of thing a developer would put into a program when debugging to check variable contents at a particular point in execution.  Does anyone else get this?
 
 
 
Cheers
 
Chris
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 

 


Re: Extraneous text in Windows Settings after 1809 upgrade

bering.p
 

Hi,
Onmy Pc,with "windows+i" , I ear also  this words.
I don't think it's a live   region. It's the name of a static window.
This is the windows hierarchy:

niveau 1   windowClass: ApplicationFrameTitleBarWindow, name: Paramètres, role: fenêtre, description: , value: Paramètres   windowClass: Windows.UI.Core.CoreWindow, name: CN=Microsoft Windows, O=Microsoft Corporation, L=Redmond, S=Washington, C=US, role: fenêtre, description: , value: None  réduit  2 sur 4  niveau 1
 windowClass: ApplicationFrameTitleBarWindow, name: Paramètres, role: fenêtre, description: , value: Paramètres  3 sur 4  niveau 1
 windowClass: ApplicationFrameInputSinkWindow, name: None, role: inconnu, description: None, value:   4 sur 4  niveau 1

Cheers.
Paul.
Le 27/02/2019 16:59, Joseph Lee a écrit :

Hi,
A few weeks ago someone sent me a debug log of this problem, and it appears it is a live region text that is being read by NvDA. I can't reproduce this on my systems running 1809 and later, but that doesn't mean I have forgotten about this problem.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Felix G.
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 7:58 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Extraneous text in Windows Settings after 1809 upgrade

Same here. Seems to be system-specific, though, as it does not happen for all installations of 1809. Most curious.
Best,
Felix

Am Mi., 27. Feb. 2019 um 15:56 Uhr schrieb molly the blind tech lover
<brainardmolly@...>:
Hi.

I get the same thing when I open the settings app on my laptop and my tablet. Not sure why this is happening lol.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris 
Mullins
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 7:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Extraneous text in Windows Settings after 1809 upgrade



Hi

I have just upgraded from Windows 1803 to 1809 and now when I use the ~Windows Settings app I hear the following :



CN=Microsoft Windows, O=Microsoft Corporation, L=Redmond, 
S=Washington, C=US



It sounds like the type of thing a developer would put into a program when debugging to check variable contents at a particular point in execution.  Does anyone else get this?



Cheers

Chris










Re: virtualbox gui

Didier Colle
 

Hi,

Not really an answer to your question, but is there any reason why you
need the GUI?
I am happy to use the vboxmanage command (simple purely text based
command with all possible flexibility I ever needed so far...) in a
cygwin shell window...

Kind regards,

Didier

mattias writes:

how can jaws read the virtualbox gui without issues

jaws 2018

but nvda cant realy do that yet



Re: Brave Browser

molly the blind tech lover
 

I'm done with that list lol.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mallard
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 12:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Brave Browser

Hello Marcio,


Gosh, I'm so fed up with that "it isn't about Android"!!!

It's a stupid attitude, especially because that list has been going strong for years without any Joe Blow telling us what to say and what not to say...


Anyway, it's a great browser. Go for it!

Ciao,

Ollie




Il 27/02/2019 15:13, marcio via Groups.Io ha scritto:
Great! I remember asking on that thread if there would be this one for
Windows, but I guess they didn't let me post because this wasn't about
Android :( Anyway, going to test it now!

Cheers,
Marcio
Follow or add me on Facebook <https://facebook.com/firirinfonfon>

Em 27/02/2019 09:24, Mallard escreveu:
Hello list,


Thanks to Jacob Kruger, who posted about this browser on the
eyes-free Android list, I discovered Brave Browser.


It's a Chrome-based browser with an ad-blocker already embedded.


It's very fast and, as far as I've been able to see up to now (I've
only tried it for a day or so), it's very accessible with NVDA.


If someone with better testing abilities than I have would like to
have a go at it, and then post their findings here, it can be found at:


https://brave.com


I've mainly used it in Android for now, but I have installed it in
Windoes as well, and there's also a version for Linux, if anyone's
interested.


I hope this can be another browser to choose from.


Ciao,

Ollie





Re: NVDA PR, was NVDA podcast or representative

molly the blind tech lover
 

Agree 100%

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Janet Brandly
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 11:58 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA PR, was NVDA podcast or representative

 

This is a great idea. It’s so important for people to know about what resources are out there, especially those without funding sources available. Even if we can’t donate, let’s spread the word about NVDA. After all, NVDA has the best customer support out there. Thnks for all you do.

jan

 

 

From: Robert Doc Wright godfearer

Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 8:14 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA podcast or representative

 

That is what I think he is talking about. He would prefer having someone to talk to in a type of interview so that blind persons in Jamaica can be informed about what is available. They get no support from their government at all.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 9:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA podcast or representative

 

Hmmph you could always try the coolblindtech guys not sure if they would exactly do a cast on nvda necessarily but its worth a shot.

The guy may even get a spotlight cast back, its been a long time since they actuall broadcast anything themselves though there are articles and stuff going up every week so they aren't down and out.

For our own materials we aren't to shabby.

We have audio tutorials, whatsnews and nvda con archive casts as well as promo videos and the like joseph lee has done.

Could it be possible for us to have enough material to set something up if not a cast for ourselves we have enough archived materials  to blow our own trumpet.

Now I do co admin a site that does casts on a few things, but I use nvda for myself and not for everything under the sun.

Saying this, if this guydoesn't mind interviews himself or even depending on things a cast on something, tech@... is the guy's address of the guy that makes the cast I co run.

Weather he wants to do whatever is his call though I am just a site admin with a few articles thrown in.

We are looking for things to cast though, as its mostly security breaches and some braille and app casts on various things.

I havn't really had anything audio related to contribute for a little though.

 

 

On 27/02/2019 3:24 PM, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote:

Earlier I was speaking with the President of the Montego Bay Society for the Blind. He is looking to speak with someone on his internet station or get permission to play a podcast that gives information about NVDA. His name is Robert Blake. Who can I put him in contact with?


Being Unsubscribed for Marking Messages as Spam #adminnotice

 

Hello All,

           You can consider this my first formal communication as group moderator, and I'm hoping that it will help not only the group as a whole but Groups.io as a whole, too.

           First, let me say, that I know that many of you who've experienced this have not done this marking yourself.   If, however, you did, and you did it intentionally:  Please STOP!!   There are all sorts of mechanisms in place these days behind the scenes that feed information about messages marked by users as spam up to their e-mail service providers, that then gets shared among e-mail service providers, to create spam filters.    This is absolutely marvelous when messages are marked correctly, but if non-spam gets marked, then non-spam starts to get identified as spam by the e-mail service providers, leading everyone to have things blocked that they'd rather be getting.

           If you are not intentionally marking anything as spam, but are getting a message from Groups.io saying that you have been unsubscribed for marking a message as spam, this means that your own e-mail service provider is doing that marking, which is not a good thing.  Thus, I'm asking you to please make the effort to contact your e-mail service provider and ask them to remove anything that comes from any groups.io address from their spam filters.   The only way anyone should be getting messages from groups.io is if they went to the effort to subscribe, and by definition subscription e-mail lists cannot be spam.  You may get messages you don't want, and if they're few and far between, then delete them, but don't mark them as spam.

            If you are on any Groups.io group where traffic is substantial, and you don't want to deal with individual messages, you can change your subscription to digest to cut down on your traffic or use a number of controls provided to really limit what you're going to see from Groups.io for a given group.  I will post the instructions on what exists, and how to use it, here again now:

         Controlling the Messages You Receive via E-Mail from Groups.io

 


            There has been a lot of recent conversation on a couple of the administrators groups about people being unsubscribed for having marked messages as spam, even when they personally have not done so.   I wanted you all to know why this is happening when you have not done any marking and what you can do to at least try to educate your e-mail service provider about Groups.io messages not being spam.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: Brave Browser

Mallard
 

Hello Marcio,


Gosh, I'm so fed up with that "it isn't about Android"!!!

It's a stupid attitude, especially because that list has been going strong for years without any Joe Blow telling us what to say and what not to say...


Anyway, it's a great browser. Go for it!

Ciao,

Ollie

Il 27/02/2019 15:13, marcio via Groups.Io ha scritto:
Great! I remember asking on that thread if there would be this one for Windows, but I guess they didn't let me post because this wasn't about Android :(
Anyway, going to test it now!

Cheers,
Marcio
Follow or add me on Facebook <https://facebook.com/firirinfonfon>

Em 27/02/2019 09:24, Mallard escreveu:
Hello list,


Thanks to Jacob Kruger, who posted about this browser on  the eyes-free Android list, I discovered Brave Browser.


It's a Chrome-based browser with an ad-blocker already embedded.


It's very fast and, as far as I've been able to see up to now (I've only tried it for a day or so), it's very accessible with NVDA.


If someone with better testing abilities than I have would like to have a go at it, and then post their findings here, it can be found at:


https://brave.com


I've mainly used it in Android for now, but I have installed it in Windoes as well, and there's also a version for Linux, if anyone's interested.


I hope this can be another browser to choose from.


Ciao,

Ollie





NVDA PR, was NVDA podcast or representative

Janet Brandly
 

This is a great idea. It’s so important for people to know about what resources are out there, especially those without funding sources available. Even if we can’t donate, let’s spread the word about NVDA. After all, NVDA has the best customer support out there. Thnks for all you do.
jan
 
 

From: Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 8:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA podcast or representative
 

That is what I think he is talking about. He would prefer having someone to talk to in a type of interview so that blind persons in Jamaica can be informed about what is available. They get no support from their government at all.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Shaun Everiss
Sent: Tuesday, February 26, 2019 9:55 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA podcast or representative

 

Hmmph you could always try the coolblindtech guys not sure if they would exactly do a cast on nvda necessarily but its worth a shot.

The guy may even get a spotlight cast back, its been a long time since they actuall broadcast anything themselves though there are articles and stuff going up every week so they aren't down and out.

For our own materials we aren't to shabby.

We have audio tutorials, whatsnews and nvda con archive casts as well as promo videos and the like joseph lee has done.

Could it be possible for us to have enough material to set something up if not a cast for ourselves we have enough archived materials  to blow our own trumpet.

Now I do co admin a site that does casts on a few things, but I use nvda for myself and not for everything under the sun.

Saying this, if this guydoesn't mind interviews himself or even depending on things a cast on something, tech@... is the guy's address of the guy that makes the cast I co run.

Weather he wants to do whatever is his call though I am just a site admin with a few articles thrown in.

We are looking for things to cast though, as its mostly security breaches and some braille and app casts on various things.

I havn't really had anything audio related to contribute for a little though.

 

 

On 27/02/2019 3:24 PM, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote:

Earlier I was speaking with the President of the Montego Bay Society for the Blind. He is looking to speak with someone on his internet station or get permission to play a podcast that gives information about NVDA. His name is Robert Blake. Who can I put him in contact with?


Re: Extraneous text in Windows Settings after 1809 upgrade

Sarah k Alawami
 

No mine got an upgrade, not direct of 1809. My machine is from origin though. It's hand made, well customized anyway

On 27 Feb 2019, at 8:28, Michel Such wrote:

Hi all,


I get the problem on some machines and not on some others.

Here, it seems that it does not happen on machines that have drectly been setup with 1809, but happen on those which have got to 1809 by upgrading previous versions.

But 5 machines are not enough to make sure.


Michel Such
Le 27/02/2019 à 17:21, Sarah k Alawami a écrit :

I've ben using 1809 for about 3 months now and have ot yet seen this issue. I've heard of it on this list somewhare though.

Take care

On 27 Feb 2019, at 4:42, Chris Mullins wrote:

Hi

I have just upgraded from Windows 1803 to 1809 and now when I use the ~Windows Settings app I hear the following :

 

CN=Microsoft Windows, O=Microsoft Corporation, L=Redmond, S=Washington, C=US

 

It sounds like the type of thing a developer would put into a program when debugging to check variable contents at a particular point in execution.  Does anyone else get this?

 

Cheers

Chris


Re: Extraneous text in Windows Settings after 1809 upgrade

Michel Such
 

Hi all,


I get the problem on some machines and not on some others.

Here, it seems that it does not happen on machines that have drectly been setup with 1809, but happen on those which have got to 1809 by upgrading previous versions.

But 5 machines are not enough to make sure.


Michel Such
Le 27/02/2019 à 17:21, Sarah k Alawami a écrit :

I've ben using 1809 for about 3 months now and have ot yet seen this issue. I've heard of it on this list somewhare though.

Take care

On 27 Feb 2019, at 4:42, Chris Mullins wrote:

Hi

I have just upgraded from Windows 1803 to 1809 and now when I use the ~Windows Settings app I hear the following :

 

CN=Microsoft Windows, O=Microsoft Corporation, L=Redmond, S=Washington, C=US

 

It sounds like the type of thing a developer would put into a program when debugging to check variable contents at a particular point in execution.  Does anyone else get this?

 

Cheers

Chris


Re: Extraneous text in Windows Settings after 1809 upgrade

Sarah k Alawami
 

I've ben using 1809 for about 3 months now and have ot yet seen this issue. I've heard of it on this list somewhare though.

Take care

On 27 Feb 2019, at 4:42, Chris Mullins wrote:

Hi

I have just upgraded from Windows 1803 to 1809 and now when I use the ~Windows Settings app I hear the following :

 

CN=Microsoft Windows, O=Microsoft Corporation, L=Redmond, S=Washington, C=US

 

It sounds like the type of thing a developer would put into a program when debugging to check variable contents at a particular point in execution.  Does anyone else get this?

 

Cheers

Chris


Re: Staying in Forms for Checkboxes

 

It's also important here to make a distinction, and it's not a trivial one, between a combo box and a dropdown box.

A dropdown box allows you to make a selection from the dropdown list - that's it.  You may, in some implementations, get away with using the first letter of a choice to get to it quickly, but that's the equivalent of arrowing down to it.  You can't change it in any way, only select it.

A true combo box, hence its name, is a merger of an edit box and a dropdown list.  You can type in a combo box and it will accept the input.  Some do edit checks afterward to ensure that what's there matches one of the items in the dropdown list (most common), while others intentionally don't, so that the end user can essentially give an input that is not one of those things.

I've actually never paid close attention to whether dropdowns and combos are announced differently, but I have to believe they are since their behaviors are, while related, distinctly different.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: How to Select a Link While n Browse Mode

 

On Tue, Feb 26, 2019 at 04:32 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
I'd be interested in what the page is and if the link is actually in focus
This is one of the things I keep begging people to include when questions like this come up.  They are almost impossible to answer in the abstract because there are so many potential scenarios that can cause misbehavior.

Unless this is occurring somewhere like an online banking page, where one must be logged in to get to it, and involves private information, please, please, please include the URL of the page in question, and the identification for the problematic link on that page.  That's the way any of us here can examine things to get an answer that's both fast, and accurate.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: Extraneous text in Windows Settings after 1809 upgrade

Felix G.
 

Makes me wonder why that live region would be present on some systems
but not others. Windows can be interesting.
Best,
Felix

Am Mi., 27. Feb. 2019 um 16:59 Uhr schrieb Joseph Lee
<joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>:


Hi,
A few weeks ago someone sent me a debug log of this problem, and it appears it is a live region text that is being read by NvDA. I can't reproduce this on my systems running 1809 and later, but that doesn't mean I have forgotten about this problem.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Felix G.
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 7:58 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Extraneous text in Windows Settings after 1809 upgrade

Same here. Seems to be system-specific, though, as it does not happen for all installations of 1809. Most curious.
Best,
Felix

Am Mi., 27. Feb. 2019 um 15:56 Uhr schrieb molly the blind tech lover
<brainardmolly@gmail.com>:

Hi.

I get the same thing when I open the settings app on my laptop and my tablet. Not sure why this is happening lol.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris
Mullins
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 7:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Extraneous text in Windows Settings after 1809 upgrade



Hi

I have just upgraded from Windows 1803 to 1809 and now when I use the ~Windows Settings app I hear the following :



CN=Microsoft Windows, O=Microsoft Corporation, L=Redmond,
S=Washington, C=US



It sounds like the type of thing a developer would put into a program when debugging to check variable contents at a particular point in execution. Does anyone else get this?



Cheers

Chris






Re: Extraneous text in Windows Settings after 1809 upgrade

 

Hi,
A few weeks ago someone sent me a debug log of this problem, and it appears it is a live region text that is being read by NvDA. I can't reproduce this on my systems running 1809 and later, but that doesn't mean I have forgotten about this problem.
Cheers,
Joseph

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Felix G.
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 7:58 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Extraneous text in Windows Settings after 1809 upgrade

Same here. Seems to be system-specific, though, as it does not happen for all installations of 1809. Most curious.
Best,
Felix

Am Mi., 27. Feb. 2019 um 15:56 Uhr schrieb molly the blind tech lover
<brainardmolly@gmail.com>:

Hi.

I get the same thing when I open the settings app on my laptop and my tablet. Not sure why this is happening lol.



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris
Mullins
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 7:43 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Extraneous text in Windows Settings after 1809 upgrade



Hi

I have just upgraded from Windows 1803 to 1809 and now when I use the ~Windows Settings app I hear the following :



CN=Microsoft Windows, O=Microsoft Corporation, L=Redmond,
S=Washington, C=US



It sounds like the type of thing a developer would put into a program when debugging to check variable contents at a particular point in execution. Does anyone else get this?



Cheers

Chris