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Re: backing up thunderbird
Oh, yay! thank you for letting me know that. glad everything was
saved for you. :)
Annette
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On 2/28/2019 8:48 PM, Ron Canazzi
wrote:
Hi Annette,
As far as I can tell, everything is saved. I just updated a day
ago and when I opened the back up version of Thunderbird on my
back up system, the address book, the folder structure (I have
17 sub folders under Inbox) the layout and even the order of
message selection was saved.
On 2/28/2019 4:07 PM, Annette Moore
wrote:
ron, does this save all of your configuration, as well as
your messages? I care more about the configuration than about
actually keeping any of my messages because it took about an
hour for me to get everything I wanted/needed configured to
the way I needed it sinceI have three email accounts. I have
the instructions saved that Richard Wels gave me, but shoot,
if I could back all that up and not have to go through that
again with any clean install of thunderbird on a future new
computer, that would be great!
Annette
On 2/28/2019 1:13 PM, Ron Canazzi
wrote:
Hi Group,
This probably varies from mail program to mail program, but
when using Thunderbird, you can back up almost everything by
doing the following.
1. Close Thunderbird.
2. From the run dialogue, type %appdata% and press enter.
3. You are in the roaming folder. This folder contains
all the application data, settings, address book and e-mails
from Thunderbird.
4. navigate to the folder named Thunderbird and when
highlighted, press control + C to copy that folder.
5. Then paste this folder onto a thumb drive, external
hard drive or some similar device and you have everything
backed up.
6. Now if for some reason, you need a fresh install of
Thunderbird or if you get a new computer and use
Thunderbird, you can simply install Thunderbird and navigate
to the Roaming folder as described in steps 1 through 3
above and paste the contents of the Thunderbird folder that
you have copied into the Roaming folder.
I do this every few days to keep the mail and settings of
Thunderbird backed up.
On 2/28/2019 1:14 PM, marcio via
Groups.Io wrote:
100% agreed. Very, very well said, indeed.
Now I definitely would like to know how I can backup my
messages. I never did it before just because I never knew it
was even possible. Help me with this, please?
Em 28/02/2019 15:09, Travis
Siegel escreveu:
Wishing something would go away because it doesn't fit
your definition of what is useful is just plain silly.
If that were the case, then I wish narrator would go
away, I whish jaws wold go away, I wish windows would go
away. Hell, I wish microsoft would go away.
\See, it serves no purpose.
There are people who use pop3, and it works just fine
for them. There are definitely use cases where pop3 is
a better fit than imap, and there are use cases where
imap is clearly the better alternative. Wishing one or
the other would go away is just ignorance talking.
If you don't wish to use it, then don't, but that
doesn't mean that others who are fully aware of what
they're getting, and do wish to use it shouldn't do so.
I for one much prefer pop3, for several reasons,
including disk usage, security, issues, ease of backup,
and others.
When folks talk about folks loosing years worth of
emails because they used pop3, my question is did those
folks ever backup their mail? I'm thinking no. Sure,
it's not the easiest thing to move mail from one email
client to another, but you're just as likely to loose
all your imap messages if your email provider goes
bye-bye as well, and nobody here can tell me that's
never happened.
It's six of one, and half dozen of the other, use what
works for you, and allow others to use what works for
them.
On 2/28/2019 12:47 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
With my old internet
provider, I had a pop 3 account. After I got to a
certain amount of messages, my email started
bouncing. I don't think people are using pop so
much anymore but I could be wrong. I wish pop 3
would go away too.
Yes you can. I have about 200 thousand
messages on gmail's server and it doesn't
really complain at me. You can also clean them
up using iMap as well. I use iMap and wish
that pop 3 would just go away and die. All the
email and attachments are backed up in the
cloud and no matter what device as stated you
are on you can always get your mail. I lost
over 3 years worth of messages once so am not
going back to pop3.
On 28 Feb 2019, at 7:49, Gene wrote:
I don't use IMAP
so others can answer the question. But
I'm sure you can delete messages if you
wish. As I understand it, you can keep
a large number on the server if you
wish.
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Re: [nvda] POP is unwise [was: Being
Unsubscribed for Marking Messages as
Spam #adminnotice]
Em 28/02/2019
12:34, Gene escreveu:
unless you want
a permanent collection of all your
received messages off site.
Does it means that
using IMAP I won't be able to delete any
message?
Cheers,
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They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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Hello. I have been reading about the browser and I did download it and I have it on both windows 10 machines. One of them is a windows 10 home 64 bit and the other one is a windows 10 pro 64 bit and the browsers work great on both PCS. What I did was I turned a lot of the stuff I wanted off and the stuff I wanted on just like how I have it set up in Chrome and opera and it works great. I do have the adds blocked on and the tracking protection on plus after I installed it I did a scan with addwcleaner and it did not find anything. Plus I downloaded the extensions just like in chrome the sound on click extensions and the download sound extention and it works great. You guys should really give it a try with NVDA cause it is similar to Chrome and opera. I am impressed and happy. ____________________________________________________________ Top Gut Doctor: I Beg Americans To Throw Out This Vegetable dr-pedre-md.com http://thirdpartyoffers.juno.com/TGL3131/5c789d67cc0dd1d675980st01vuc
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Re: backing up thunderbird
Hi Annette,
As far as I can tell, everything is saved. I just updated a day
ago and when I opened the back up version of Thunderbird on my
back up system, the address book, the folder structure (I have 17
sub folders under Inbox) the layout and even the order of message
selection was saved.
On 2/28/2019 4:07 PM, Annette Moore
wrote:
ron, does this save all of your configuration, as well as your
messages? I care more about the configuration than about
actually keeping any of my messages because it took about an
hour for me to get everything I wanted/needed configured to the
way I needed it sinceI have three email accounts. I have the
instructions saved that Richard Wels gave me, but shoot, if I
could back all that up and not have to go through that again
with any clean install of thunderbird on a future new computer,
that would be great!
Annette
On 2/28/2019 1:13 PM, Ron Canazzi
wrote:
Hi Group,
This probably varies from mail program to mail program, but
when using Thunderbird, you can back up almost everything by
doing the following.
1. Close Thunderbird.
2. From the run dialogue, type %appdata% and press enter.
3. You are in the roaming folder. This folder contains all
the application data, settings, address book and e-mails from
Thunderbird.
4. navigate to the folder named Thunderbird and when
highlighted, press control + C to copy that folder.
5. Then paste this folder onto a thumb drive, external hard
drive or some similar device and you have everything backed
up.
6. Now if for some reason, you need a fresh install of
Thunderbird or if you get a new computer and use Thunderbird,
you can simply install Thunderbird and navigate to the Roaming
folder as described in steps 1 through 3 above and paste the
contents of the Thunderbird folder that you have copied into
the Roaming folder.
I do this every few days to keep the mail and settings of
Thunderbird backed up.
On 2/28/2019 1:14 PM, marcio via
Groups.Io wrote:
100% agreed. Very, very well said, indeed.
Now I definitely would like to know how I can backup my
messages. I never did it before just because I never knew it
was even possible. Help me with this, please?
Em 28/02/2019 15:09, Travis
Siegel escreveu:
Wishing something would go away because it doesn't fit
your definition of what is useful is just plain silly.
If that were the case, then I wish narrator would go
away, I whish jaws wold go away, I wish windows would go
away. Hell, I wish microsoft would go away.
\See, it serves no purpose.
There are people who use pop3, and it works just fine for
them. There are definitely use cases where pop3 is a
better fit than imap, and there are use cases where imap
is clearly the better alternative. Wishing one or the
other would go away is just ignorance talking.
If you don't wish to use it, then don't, but that doesn't
mean that others who are fully aware of what they're
getting, and do wish to use it shouldn't do so. I for one
much prefer pop3, for several reasons, including disk
usage, security, issues, ease of backup, and others.
When folks talk about folks loosing years worth of emails
because they used pop3, my question is did those folks
ever backup their mail? I'm thinking no. Sure, it's not
the easiest thing to move mail from one email client to
another, but you're just as likely to loose all your imap
messages if your email provider goes bye-bye as well, and
nobody here can tell me that's never happened.
It's six of one, and half dozen of the other, use what
works for you, and allow others to use what works for
them.
On 2/28/2019 12:47 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
With my old internet
provider, I had a pop 3 account. After I got to a
certain amount of messages, my email started
bouncing. I don't think people are using pop so much
anymore but I could be wrong. I wish pop 3 would go
away too.
Yes you can. I have about 200 thousand
messages on gmail's server and it doesn't really
complain at me. You can also clean them up using
iMap as well. I use iMap and wish that pop 3
would just go away and die. All the email and
attachments are backed up in the cloud and no
matter what device as stated you are on you can
always get your mail. I lost over 3 years worth
of messages once so am not going back to pop3.
On 28 Feb 2019, at 7:49, Gene wrote:
I don't use IMAP so
others can answer the question. But I'm
sure you can delete messages if you wish.
As I understand it, you can keep a large
number on the server if you wish.
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Message -----
Sent:
Thursday, February 28, 2019 9:37 AM
Subject:
Re: [nvda] POP is unwise [was: Being
Unsubscribed for Marking Messages as
Spam #adminnotice]
Em 28/02/2019 12:34,
Gene escreveu:
unless you want a
permanent collection of all your
received messages off site.
Does it means that
using IMAP I won't be able to delete any
message?
Cheers,
--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
--
They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
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That is a problem what happened when you tried to uninstall that
brouser out of interest.
That what eventually drove me away from a lot of bundled things,
they always managed to screw somet6hing up after uninstall.
I once had a network wide security package which was really good
till it did something I didn't want it to do and decided to change
it.
On removing it completely, it blocked and dammaged so much of
windows I had to reformat all my pcs to say the least I was happy
I never payed money for it.
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On 1/03/2019 11:57 AM, Travis Siegel
wrote:
When I tried it several months ago, it worked, though it didn't
work well enough to make it a primary browser. I did have one
heck of a time getting it uninstalled though.
This brave browser is based on chromium, which means it's
opensource, so if you're concerned about security, go look at
the source code, and set your mind to rest.
On 2/28/2019 4:28 PM, Andy wrote:
Vivaldi! What a neat name for a browser!
Andy
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Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 12:30 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Brave browser
Indeed, there are
many other Chromium browsers out there.
Which reminds me,
has anybody else taken Vivaldi for a spin?
I love how
customisable it is but so far my screen-reader
experience is a bit cluttered, and not all controls
behave as I think they should.
It should be
tweakable though.
Well its the latest chromium alternertive.
FFull add blocking and extra security.
review here.
https://www.computerworld.com/article/3292619/web-browsers/the-brave-browser-basics-what-it-does-how-it-differs-from-rivals.html
I do caution users, in the article link I pasted above
the eventual plan for brave is to replace all adds from
other's websites and tracks with its own adds and trackers
or at least thats what I read.
Some antimalware and security tools detect brave as
malware though they say its false.
Reviews seem generally good now, but I am not sure.
If this brouser is replacing adds with its own, there is
no garantee that eventually you trade a malware free
environment with using another echosystem, with its own
adds, trackers, and malware thrown in.
This is a really new project, its not the first chromium
sourced brouser and it will not be the last.
One other thing to note, its not a main stay brouser like
chrome, firefox, ie and edge, so interface wize while it
may be good, a supported brouser that is supported is
better than one which may have issues.
Now saying that with nvda that probably doesn't matter as
such because of the fact nvda itself is basically a
scripted program built using modern techniques and using
commen os access commands and apis.
But Its probable that if you run something like dolphin
stuff you won't get access and its unlikely that it would
be supported by jaws or anything like that.
The thing I don't care for is trading all the malware I
have to deal with now with eventually another person's
adds.
If I am ready to do this, I may as well uninstall my
antimalware software and turn off my firewall.
Users do have glowing reviews right now but its new.
Now if you want to try it you probably won't have any
issues doing so however who knows.
Ports come and go.
It may have some big names developing it but look at
piriform.
CCleaner is a good program, it used to be really good
till piriform went with avast.
Now ccleaner is its own malware, and sadly it does do
malwareish things, trying to have quickclean run, and a
entire load of other things I have to modify my ini file
every day or so.
Its interface or at least the main interface panel is
total crap access wize.
And it comes with avast which is total crap access wize
to.
I used to use programs with dvdvideosoftware they used to
have google spyware in them and I don't care about google
because I use that but later it had conduit then
opencandy, then a lot of other junk and I had to get rid
of it and reformat my system to get rid of all the extra
junkware.
Sadly it seems to be the rage, any software that is
bundled with any software is pritty much malware because
most of the time the user has not requested that software
so its malware.
THats another issue with brave, it does not block google
adds or google trackers, so we know who is funding brave
now.
Now if brave got cash from doubleclick, yahoo adds and
all the other add makers to have their adds unblocked then
we have a problem.
I know that with waterfox I have full control, and I have
blocked google and all sort of extras.
On 28/02/2019 11:12 AM, Gene wrote:
If people do a Google or
other search engine search for something like Brave
browser review, they may find knowledgeable
assessments of the browser.
----- Original Message
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Sent:
Wednesday, February 27, 2019 4:09 PM
Subject:
Re: [nvda] Brave browser
How do we know this is a safe browser?
--
Dan Beaver (KC4DOY)
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Re: Windows OCR Programs for jpg and pdf files
I have abbyy fine reader, thats 300 australian, and I have the
latest upgrades for that, I looked at omnipage though and thats
210 dollars nz just for that.
Is omnipage ultimate worth it, I don't use it much at 500 bucks,
I wasn't really thinking of getting that, pluss my brother scanner
has paperport with it to.
At any rate, I have spent a few weeks trying to get back my
serial from abbyy for my scanner ocr product and I have spent
about 600 on synths and and windows addition upgrades on this new
laptop I got last year.
To be honest if I could afford it, I'd get the k1000 program,
which has everything in it but its probably more than omnipage
ultimate.
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On 1/03/2019 11:13 AM, ADRIAN POCOCK
wrote:
Hi Kwork
One outstanding piece of software is OmniPage Ultimate.
It also has the ability to convert a document into mp3.
Depends if you want to spend a lot or not, if you are going to
use it a lot then maybe or use an android phone using adobe and
acrobat apps together which does work well but a bit of a
learning curve.
Hope this helps a bit.
Best Adrian Pocock.
On 28/02/2019 21:52, Kwork wrote:
I'm looking for a good and NVDA accessible OCR program that will
work on jpg and pdf files. I've heard that ABBYY FineReader has
been recommended in the past, but wondered what would fill my
needs now. I don't have a physical scanner, so that's not a
consideration at this time. Thank you.
Travis
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Re: windows 10 mail app tutorial
Robert Doc Wright godfearer
using Windows 10 mail. - Open mail either by typing mail in cortana or pressing window s key t and arrowing to mail and enter
- Tab to
Manage and enter - Tab to add and enter
- Arrow down to the type of account you are creating and enter
If you need to enter specific information for a particular domain then choose advance and enter 6 follow the prompts entering all of the needed information and enter on next. 7. enter on done Now that you have an account entered when you open the mail app it will place you in your list of emails. If this account such as gmail has extra folders you can tab to folders and enter to find the folder you need. Sent from Mail for Windows 10 From: anthony borg
Sent: Wednesday, February 27, 2019 12:55 PM
Subject: [nvda] windows 10 mail app tutorial Hi folks I need to learn how to use fully the windows 10 mail app. Could anyone suggested me where I can get a tutorial please? With thanks in advance Anthony Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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Re: how to know when a thread is locked
Hi Adrian,
Oh, that's just part of my signature. I'm Glad you sent me a friend
request though.
And if anyone wants to do the same, feel free! :)
Em 28/02/2019 21:52, ADRIAN POCOCK
escreveu:
hi Marcio
Thank you very much for your reply, very helpful.
I do not do the follow me thing on any social platform, not
really into it.
But i did send friend request on Facebook, i do occasionally
use Facebook messenger.
All the Best Adrian Pocock. Email
ampbeast@...
On 01/03/2019 00:20, marcio via
Groups.Io wrote:
Em 28/02/2019 21:15, ADRIAN POCOCK escreveu:
You
mentioned a subgroup, is there just one or are there many
and if so is there a clearly labelled list of them and if
there is one whats its name.
Hi Adrian,
See this link, it contains all
subgroups to this list.
Cheers,
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Re: how to know when a thread is locked
hi Marcio
Thank you very much for your reply, very helpful.
I do not do the follow me thing on any social platform, not really into it.
But i did send friend request on Facebook, i do occasionally use Facebook messenger.
All the Best Adrian Pocock. Email
ampbeast@...
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On 01/03/2019 00:20, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:
Em 28/02/2019 21:15, ADRIAN POCOCK escreveu:
You mentioned a subgroup, is there just one or are there many and if so is there a clearly labelled list of them and if there is one whats its name.
Hi Adrian,
See this link, it contains all subgroups to this list.
Cheers,
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Re: The NVDA Chat Subgroup
On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 07:36 PM, Kwork wrote:
I would encourage those of us going off topic in the regular group on a thread, pointing at myself at times, to send a message to the effect that all future answers not related to NVDA will be made in the chat group.
Which would almost certainly make more people happy all-around. Please do! --
Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763
A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.
~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back
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Re: The NVDA Chat Subgroup
And, I would encourage those of us going off topic in the regular
group on a thread, pointing at myself at times, to send a message
to the effect that all future answers not related to NVDA will be
made in the chat group. That way those who don't want to read the
off topic posts don't have to, and those who do can switch groups
and keep on chatting and participating in the non-NVDA related
discussions.
Travis
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On 2/28/2019 5:26 PM, Brian Vogel
wrote:
This information needs the occasional bump and repetition, so I'm
giving it one:
For those who really wish to chat about any topic not directly
NVDA-related with people they know from the NVDA Group via a list,
you can subscribe to the chat subgroup. Here are the addresses:
Since the Chat Group is really just beginning to ramp up, I'd even
encourage you to make "See Chat" posts to the main group as the
signal flare that you're asking about something there, or sharing
information there. For example, "See Chat: Looking for Advice on
TalkBack from those who use it," after you've created a topic
there to let people know that the topic exists and to take a
look. It then allows the conversation to be as freewheeling as
the participants wish in the Chat subgroup.
--
Brian - Windows 10
Home, 64-Bit, Version
1809, Build 17763
A great
deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the
need for illusion is deep.
~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and
Back
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Re: how to know when a thread is locked
On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 07:15 PM, ADRIAN POCOCK wrote:
Do you see the irony ....
No, but I've seen the problem on every e-mailing list I've ever been on. Luckily, topic locking is very seldom necessary. I'm actually kind of glad things have worked out as they did. This will happen on rare occasion not only on this group, but any e-mailing group (whether groups.io or not) if a topic is locked. Any moderator or owner should show the basic courtesy to announce a topic is being locked when that occurs so it can be known and that message should show up as the most recent one in an e-mail thread/conversation. I really doubt I'll end up locking a topic again for quite a while, but I would always state it has occurred in a message immediately before it were to be locked. The "locked bounce" is an insoluble side-effect in an e-mail list where topics can be locked and where someone attempts to respond after that has occurred. --
Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763
A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.
~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back
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This information needs the occasional bump and repetition, so I'm giving it one: For those who really wish to chat about any topic not directly NVDA-related with people they know from the NVDA Group via a list, you can subscribe to the chat subgroup. Here are the addresses:
Since the Chat Group is really just beginning to ramp up, I'd even encourage you to make "See Chat" posts to the main group as the signal flare that you're asking about something there, or sharing information there. For example, "See Chat: Looking for Advice on TalkBack from those who use it," after you've created a topic there to let people know that the topic exists and to take a look. It then allows the conversation to be as freewheeling as the participants wish in the Chat subgroup. --
Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763
A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.
~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back
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Re: how to know when a thread is locked
Em 28/02/2019 21:15, ADRIAN POCOCK escreveu:
You
mentioned a subgroup, is there just one or are there many and
if so is there a clearly labelled list of them and if there is
one whats its name.
Hi Adrian,
See this link, it
contains all subgroups to this list.
Cheers,
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Re: how to know when a thread is locked
hi
Brian - Windows
10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763
Do you see the irony ....
Well you have to laugh.
It does seem to be quite a discouraging way of
doing things.
Some things are not quite as clear cut as others
such as you could say the discussion of social media aps etc is not directly connected to nvda for example.
You mentioned a subgroup, is there just one or
are there many and if so is there a clearly labelled list of them and if there is one whats its name.
Best Adrian Pocock
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On 28/02/2019 23:12, Brian Vogel wrote:
Adrian,
Quite literally, you don't, unless you've read through the topic and the person (moderator or group owner) has stated they are locking the topic. If you are talking about the POP topic, I locked it and stated that I was locking it in the message
I added to it just before doing so.
That's one of the disadvantages of e-mail lists when it comes to locked topics. There's no lock icon as there is on the web interface that shows that a topic is locked and no other way to communicate that information other than to state it in a message
immediately prior to locking.
As a general note to the readership at large, when the Group Owner of any group suggests a topic be closed, that should never be taken as an invitation to open a new topic on the same subject. It's a clear indicator that the subject itself is not
felt to be suitable to the venue in question. Since the NVDA group does have a chat subgroup, and it seems to have picked up some new "regulars" recently, I would encourage those with topics that may be technical, but not tied in to using NVDA in any meaningful
way, to start those topics on the chat subgroup.
--
Brian - Windows
10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763
A great deal of intelligence can be
invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.
~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back
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Re: Windows OCR Programs for jpg and pdf files
Abbyy FineReader, OmniPage and KNFB Reader are some of the best options...
Rui Fontes
Às 21:52 de 28/02/2019, Kwork escreveu:
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I'm looking for a good and NVDA accessible OCR program that will work on jpg and pdf files. I've heard that ABBYY FineReader has been recommended in the past, but wondered what would fill my needs now. I don't have a physical scanner, so that's not a consideration at this time. Thank you.
Travis
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Re: backing up thunderbird
Thank you for the info.
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On 2/28/2019 2:36 PM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote: it is a program for backing up everything in any Mozilla program and then you can restore it say on a clean install and have all your stuff like address books and so on in mail. and bookmarks. in your firefox.
On 28/02/2019 22:29, Brice Mijares wrote:
Would you explain what this most backup is? thank you.
On 2/28/2019 2:14 PM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi, the easy way is download moz backup and install it this will back up everything I have used it for years. download link from my one drive folder below.
https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ame5fFtwuKO3zFyN0iTjnA0hiJe3
On 28/02/2019 21:07, Annette Moore wrote:
ron, does this save all of your configuration, as well as your messages? I care more about the configuration than about actually keeping any of my messages because it took about an hour for me to get everything I wanted/needed configured to the way I needed it sinceI have three email accounts. I have the instructions saved that Richard Wels gave me, but shoot, if I could back all that up and not have to go through that again with any clean install of thunderbird on a future new computer, that would be great!
Annette
On 2/28/2019 1:13 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
Hi Group,
This probably varies from mail program to mail program, but when using Thunderbird, you can back up almost everything by doing the following.
1. Close Thunderbird.
2. From the run dialogue, type %appdata% and press enter.
3. You are in the roaming folder. This folder contains all the application data, settings, address book and e-mails from Thunderbird.
4. navigate to the folder named Thunderbird and when highlighted, press control + C to copy that folder.
5. Then paste this folder onto a thumb drive, external hard drive or some similar device and you have everything backed up.
6. Now if for some reason, you need a fresh install of Thunderbird or if you get a new computer and use Thunderbird, you can simply install Thunderbird and navigate to the Roaming folder as described in steps 1 through 3 above and paste the contents of the Thunderbird folder that you have copied into the Roaming folder.
I do this every few days to keep the mail and settings of Thunderbird backed up.
On 2/28/2019 1:14 PM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:
100% agreed. Very, very well said, indeed.
Now I definitely would like to know how I can backup my messages. I never did it before just because I never knew it was even possible. Help me with this, please?
Cheers,
Marcio
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Em 28/02/2019 15:09, Travis Siegel escreveu:
Wishing something would go away because it doesn't fit your definition of what is useful is just plain silly.
If that were the case, then I wish narrator would go away, I whish jaws wold go away, I wish windows would go away. Hell, I wish microsoft would go away.
\See, it serves no purpose.
There are people who use pop3, and it works just fine for them. There are definitely use cases where pop3 is a better fit than imap, and there are use cases where imap is clearly the better alternative. Wishing one or the other would go away is just ignorance talking.
If you don't wish to use it, then don't, but that doesn't mean that others who are fully aware of what they're getting, and do wish to use it shouldn't do so. I for one much prefer pop3, for several reasons, including disk usage, security, issues, ease of backup, and others.
When folks talk about folks loosing years worth of emails because they used pop3, my question is did those folks ever backup their mail? I'm thinking no. Sure, it's not the easiest thing to move mail from one email client to another, but you're just as likely to loose all your imap messages if your email provider goes bye-bye as well, and nobody here can tell me that's never happened.
It's six of one, and half dozen of the other, use what works for you, and allow others to use what works for them.
On 2/28/2019 12:47 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
With my old internet provider, I had a pop 3 account. After I got to a certain amount of messages, my email started bouncing. I don't think people are using pop so much anymore but I could be wrong. I wish pop 3 would go away too.
*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Sarah k Alawami
*Sent:* Thursday, February 28, 2019 8:27 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] POP is unwise [was: Being Unsubscribed for Marking Messages as Spam #adminnotice]
Yes you can. I have about 200 thousand messages on gmail's server and it doesn't really complain at me. You can also clean them up using iMap as well. I use iMap and wish that pop 3 would just go away and die. All the email and attachments are backed up in the cloud and no matter what device as stated you are on you can always get your mail. I lost over 3 years worth of messages once so am not going back to pop3.
On 28 Feb 2019, at 7:49, Gene wrote:
I don't use IMAP so others can answer the question. But I'm
sure you can delete messages if you wish. As I understand it,
you can keep a large number on the server if you wish.
Gene
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Em 28/02/2019 12:34, Gene escreveu:
unless you want a permanent collection of all your received
messages off site.
Does it means that using IMAP I won't be able to delete any
message?
Cheers,
Marcio
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Re: Windows OCR Programs for jpg and pdf files
Thank you adrian. I've heard of OmniPage, and remember it being
the defacto for many before Finereader came along.
All suggestions are welcome.
Travis
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On 2/28/2019 3:13 PM, ADRIAN POCOCK
wrote:
Hi Kwork
One outstanding piece of software is OmniPage Ultimate.
It also has the ability to convert a document into mp3.
Depends if you want to spend a lot or not, if you are going to
use it a lot then maybe or use an android phone using adobe and
acrobat apps together which does work well but a bit of a
learning curve.
Hope this helps a bit.
Best Adrian Pocock.
On 28/02/2019 21:52, Kwork wrote:
I'm looking for a good and NVDA accessible OCR program that will
work on jpg and pdf files. I've heard that ABBYY FineReader has
been recommended in the past, but wondered what would fill my
needs now. I don't have a physical scanner, so that's not a
consideration at this time. Thank you.
Travis
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Re: Windows OCR Programs for jpg and pdf files
Yes. Thank you. That's an option though I'm also for finding a
program to do that locally to save the uploading/downloading of
files to an external server.
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On 2/28/2019 3:06 PM, hurrikennyandopo
... wrote:
Hi
Try the following website i have not used it for a long time
but was very accessible with nvda when i used it. It will do the
formats you want and or convert them. I am sure it could ocr 2
in the document and email it back to you.
it can be found at
https://www.robobraille.org/
It does the job well. You do not need a scanner.
hope it helps.
Gene nz
On 1/03/2019 10:52 AM, Kwork wrote:
I'm looking for a good and NVDA accessible OCR program that will
work on jpg and pdf files. I've heard that ABBYY FineReader has
been recommended in the past, but wondered what would fill my
needs now. I don't have a physical scanner, so that's not a
consideration at this time. Thank you.
Travis
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Re: Being Unsubscribed for Marking Messages as Spam
#adminnotice
On Thu, Feb 28, 2019 at 06:03 PM, Travis Siegel wrote:
Deleting junk messages is no different from deleting nonjunk messages, it's only the action of marking them spam that (sometimes) has the undesired result of making lots of other servers mark them as spam as well.
That depends entirely on the e-mail client. It makes me want to scream that Thunderbird, as much as I love it, decided to use the term Junk for what is more generally known as Spam. It's built-in junk filtering also marks junk as spam, because the two are considered synonymous in that particular client. What they did do, which is only helpful if you're sighted, is to make their "junk flame icon" attach to the spam folder for IMAP accounts where one exists. At one time it didn't, which made things entirely confusing. So, if you're a Thunderbird user, Junk and Spam are one and the same. Trash can be deleted under Thunderbird, WLM (any version I know of), and Outlook (again, any version) without any issue. Those messages are not considered to be Spam. --
Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763
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Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
the program files is for 64-bit programs, and the x86 program files is for 32-bit programs. This has already been stated, but then again, the opposite has also been stated. https://www.computerhope.com/issues/ch001266.htmwill clear up any lingering doubts. I actually looked for a page stating this on the microsoft site itself, but couldn't locate one that didn't include all kinds of irrelevant extras along with the required information, so this is the best I could find.
On 2/28/2019 5:06 PM, James AUSTIN wrote: Hi
I could be wrong about this so please correct me somebody if so, but I think that the suffix X 86 for program files points to user installed applications. The original program files points to applications installed by Windows. However in most installation wizards I have used you can choose where to install files.
Best wishes
James
On 28 Feb 2019, at 21:53, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io <the.big.white.shepherd@...> wrote:
Hi, I installed the 64 bit butt yet it is in program files x86 and yes I am sure I have the 64 bit version. at least when I went to the download page it said 64 bit installer. any ideas anyone else had this?
On 28/02/2019 06:42, Mallard wrote:
Well, I haven't seen any ads at all in Brave, neither in Android nor in Windows.
If there are, they are well hidden. And if they're hidden, I don't see the purpose of having them at all
It's only fair that one should be wary.
Il 28/02/2019 04:45, Shaun Everiss ha scritto:
Well its the latest chromium alternertive.
FFull add blocking and extra security.
review here.
https://www.computerworld.com/article/3292619/web-browsers/the-brave-browser-basics-what-it-does-how-it-differs-from-rivals.html
I do caution users, in the article link I pasted above the eventual plan for brave is to replace all adds from other's websites and tracks with its own adds and trackers or at least thats what I read.
Some antimalware and security tools detect brave as malware though they say its false.
Reviews seem generally good now, but I am not sure.
If this brouser is replacing adds with its own, there is no garantee that eventually you trade a malware free environment with using another echosystem, with its own adds, trackers, and malware thrown in.
This is a really new project, its not the first chromium sourced brouser and it will not be the last.
One other thing to note, its not a main stay brouser like chrome, firefox, ie and edge, so interface wize while it may be good, a supported brouser that is supported is better than one which may have issues.
Now saying that with nvda that probably doesn't matter as such because of the fact nvda itself is basically a scripted program built using modern techniques and using commen os access commands and apis.
But Its probable that if you run something like dolphin stuff you won't get access and its unlikely that it would be supported by jaws or anything like that.
The thing I don't care for is trading all the malware I have to deal with now with eventually another person's adds.
If I am ready to do this, I may as well uninstall my antimalware software and turn off my firewall.
Users do have glowing reviews right now but its new.
Now if you want to try it you probably won't have any issues doing so however who knows.
Ports come and go.
It may have some big names developing it but look at piriform.
CCleaner is a good program, it used to be really good till piriform went with avast.
Now ccleaner is its own malware, and sadly it does do malwareish things, trying to have quickclean run, and a entire load of other things I have to modify my ini file every day or so.
Its interface or at least the main interface panel is total crap access wize.
And it comes with avast which is total crap access wize to.
I used to use programs with dvdvideosoftware they used to have google spyware in them and I don't care about google because I use that but later it had conduit then opencandy, then a lot of other junk and I had to get rid of it and reformat my system to get rid of all the extra junkware.
Sadly it seems to be the rage, any software that is bundled with any software is pritty much malware because most of the time the user has not requested that software so its malware.
THats another issue with brave, it does not block google adds or google trackers, so we know who is funding brave now.
Now if brave got cash from doubleclick, yahoo adds and all the other add makers to have their adds unblocked then we have a problem.
I know that with waterfox I have full control, and I have blocked google and all sort of extras.
On 28/02/2019 11:12 AM, Gene wrote:
If people do a Google or other search engine search for something like Brave browser review, they may find knowledgeable assessments of the browser.
Gene
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*From:* Dan Beaver <mailto:dbeaver888@...>
*Sent:* Wednesday, February 27, 2019 4:09 PM
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How do we know this is a safe browser?
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