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Introducing myself

cisco
 

Hello all. my name is Cisco and I am from Italy.

I started using NVDA when i was 8 years old, now I am 14..

i am a musitian, who plays the violin, the guitar and the piano.

well, from me, for now, that's all! have a grate day!


Cisco Tissera.


Re: backing up thunderbird

 

how do you restore your mail using the portable?


On 3/2/2019 6:06 AM, Robert Kingett wrote:

There's an easier way than this. Get ThunderBird portable from portable apps, and just tell the portable apps client to install itself in your DropBox or one drive folder or whatever cloud service you use. This way, the portable apps client, when ran, will automatically check for TB updates and be on every computer you personally use.

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Re: backing up thunderbird

 

There's an easier way than this. Get ThunderBird portable from portable apps, and just tell the portable apps client to install itself in your DropBox or one drive folder or whatever cloud service you use. This way, the portable apps client, when ran, will automatically check for TB updates and be on every computer you personally use.


Re: Easier way to edit exception dictionary?

Gene
 

I know of no such way.  You can't use first letter navigation as you can in a standard list.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Jeff Samco
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2019 12:34 AM
Subject: [nvda] Easier way to edit exception dictionary?

I have set up a sizeable exception dictionary. If I wish to locate
and edit an entry I find it very tedious to arrow through the list.
Is there an easier method for locating a specific entry? Or, is there
a way to alphabetize the list to facilitate moving quickly through the list?
Thanks,
Jeff




Re: application error in latest alpha

Brian's Mail list account
 

I don't see this with add ons on or off but do occasionally hear an error tone on start up.
I'm using windows 7.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jaffar Sidek" <jaffar.sidek10@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2019 1:14 AM
Subject: [nvda] application error in latest alpha


Hi. I am getting this error every time I restart the latest NVDA alpha:

Error message below

//////////

NvdaHelper remote(outProcMgrThreadFunc) Dialog: error registering focus WinEventHook

//////////

There is then an ok button to get out of the dialog. How it affects NVDA's workings, I am not as yet sure as I am just trying the alpha out. Will report if there is any misbehavior. Cheers!



Re: application error in latest alpha

Brian's Mail list account
 

Does it do it if you disable all addones on a restart?
It looks a little like it might be related to an add on.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jaffar Sidek" <jaffar.sidek10@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, March 02, 2019 1:14 AM
Subject: [nvda] application error in latest alpha


Hi. I am getting this error every time I restart the latest NVDA alpha:

Error message below

//////////

NvdaHelper remote(outProcMgrThreadFunc) Dialog: error registering focus WinEventHook

//////////

There is then an ok button to get out of the dialog. How it affects NVDA's workings, I am not as yet sure as I am just trying the alpha out. Will report if there is any misbehavior. Cheers!



Easier way to edit exception dictionary?

Jeff Samco
 

I have set up a sizeable exception dictionary. If I wish to locate and edit an entry I find it very tedious to arrow through the list. Is there an easier method for locating a specific entry? Or, is there a way to alphabetize the list to facilitate moving quickly through the list?
Thanks,
Jeff


Re: Chat Solutions for NVDA users

David Goldfield
 

Sam,

I'm afraid that I don't have answers to the question about navigating by section. When the browse mode cursor is enabled I often press ctrl-home to move to the top of the screen and search for the word "unread", pressing enter on channels with unread messages that I want to read. Once I do this the focus moves to the edit field for entering a message within that channel and you are also below the last unread message. I then press escape to reenable browse mode and use shift-K to move backward by links. Within each message there are two links, one for the sender and another with the timestamp, which helps me to navigate across messages. I admit this is not the most elegant way to navigate this program but as it's how I first learned it I do it so quickly that, for me, it's actually efficient.

This conversation is causing me to consider setting up a mailing list for blind users of Slack.

I just may do that ...

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com

On 3/1/2019 11:35 PM, Sam Bushman wrote:

Is there a better way to get from section to section of the app than pressing f6 – is there a way to see all unread messages with out by mistake making them already read just by passing by them?

I do find it basically accessible but hard to navigate and vary slow by the time you move around – it’s quite clunky and hard to use.

 

Any thoughts to improve things? Any settings to turn on or off that helps?

 

Thanks,

Sam

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 9:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Chat Solutions for NVDA users

 

Hi, Sam.

If you are in a channel where you have a list of messages, disabling browse mode and then pressing shift-f6 should move your focus to the list of messages. You will likely find yourself at the bottom of the list, pointing to the newest message in the stack. Pressing up arrow should move from one message to the next, going from newest to oldest. I have not tested this method with NVDA as I usually use browse mode. Admittedly, this may not be the most efficient way to read messages. However, it's the way that I first learned how to navigate in Slack and I find that my muscle memory just kicks in and allows me to navigate very quickly.

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com

On 3/1/2019 11:17 PM, Sam Bushman wrote:

Hi David,

 

I have been playing with slack. The added keyboard support is truly quite helpful.

I often have a problem using the f6 key taking me from section to section.

 

Can you please write me off list and maybe provide a few navigation tips?

 

I would be most grateful. I need this badly for work.

 

Thanks so much for your help.

 

Sam

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 8:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Chat Solutions for NVDA users

 

Regarding Slack I have used it and the program is accessible. However, just because a program is screen reader accessible doesn't necessarily mean that it has an intuitive user-friendly interface. While the UI could do with some improvements to make the program more usable for a screen reader user the fact is that it is usable enough that someone with decent screen reader skills should, after a bit of practice, be able to use it. The Windows version can either be used with browse mode disabled which, for some, may be more efficient or it can be used with browse mode enabled by navigating through messages as you would navigate a Web page. The iOS version, on the whole, is also fairly good. As someone else on this list has stated, the development team is extremely good at responding to users very quickly. Sometime last year, one of the developers inadvertently disabled the ability to navigate through messages using the virtual or browse mode cursor. As this is the way that I use Slack and since using the program is essential for me I was in a bit of a panic and contacted them via their Twitter account (their handle is @SlackHQ.) This was on a Thursday. I very shortly received an apology from one of the developers who understood what the issue was and he promptly fixed it by the end of Friday. That is certainly excellent service.

 

 

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com

On 3/1/2019 10:00 PM, David Goldfield wrote:

Hi, Gene.

Jonathan Mosen offers a tutorial covering the use of Zoom from a blindness perspective, which you can acquire from this link.



David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com

On 3/1/2019 2:06 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi

 

is there a tutorial on how to use zoom? with nvda? or a section to guide you on how to use it?

 

I have never used it.

 

Gene nz

 

On 2/03/2019 3:47 AM, Robert Kingett wrote:

I'd also try writing Zoom's accessibility team as well. I haven't used the chat feature all that much, so can't comment, but below is zoom's accessibility team email.

access@...

below is their ticket system.

http://support.zoom.us/

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
 
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
 
To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
 
To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Chat Solutions for NVDA users

Sam Bushman
 

Is there a better way to get from section to section of the app than pressing f6 – is there a way to see all unread messages with out by mistake making them already read just by passing by them?

I do find it basically accessible but hard to navigate and vary slow by the time you move around – it’s quite clunky and hard to use.

 

Any thoughts to improve things? Any settings to turn on or off that helps?

 

Thanks,

Sam

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 9:22 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Chat Solutions for NVDA users

 

Hi, Sam.

If you are in a channel where you have a list of messages, disabling browse mode and then pressing shift-f6 should move your focus to the list of messages. You will likely find yourself at the bottom of the list, pointing to the newest message in the stack. Pressing up arrow should move from one message to the next, going from newest to oldest. I have not tested this method with NVDA as I usually use browse mode. Admittedly, this may not be the most efficient way to read messages. However, it's the way that I first learned how to navigate in Slack and I find that my muscle memory just kicks in and allows me to navigate very quickly.

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com

On 3/1/2019 11:17 PM, Sam Bushman wrote:

Hi David,

 

I have been playing with slack. The added keyboard support is truly quite helpful.

I often have a problem using the f6 key taking me from section to section.

 

Can you please write me off list and maybe provide a few navigation tips?

 

I would be most grateful. I need this badly for work.

 

Thanks so much for your help.

 

Sam

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 8:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Chat Solutions for NVDA users

 

Regarding Slack I have used it and the program is accessible. However, just because a program is screen reader accessible doesn't necessarily mean that it has an intuitive user-friendly interface. While the UI could do with some improvements to make the program more usable for a screen reader user the fact is that it is usable enough that someone with decent screen reader skills should, after a bit of practice, be able to use it. The Windows version can either be used with browse mode disabled which, for some, may be more efficient or it can be used with browse mode enabled by navigating through messages as you would navigate a Web page. The iOS version, on the whole, is also fairly good. As someone else on this list has stated, the development team is extremely good at responding to users very quickly. Sometime last year, one of the developers inadvertently disabled the ability to navigate through messages using the virtual or browse mode cursor. As this is the way that I use Slack and since using the program is essential for me I was in a bit of a panic and contacted them via their Twitter account (their handle is @SlackHQ.) This was on a Thursday. I very shortly received an apology from one of the developers who understood what the issue was and he promptly fixed it by the end of Friday. That is certainly excellent service.

 

 

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com

On 3/1/2019 10:00 PM, David Goldfield wrote:

Hi, Gene.

Jonathan Mosen offers a tutorial covering the use of Zoom from a blindness perspective, which you can acquire from this link.



David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com

On 3/1/2019 2:06 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi

 

is there a tutorial on how to use zoom? with nvda? or a section to guide you on how to use it?

 

I have never used it.

 

Gene nz

 

On 2/03/2019 3:47 AM, Robert Kingett wrote:

I'd also try writing Zoom's accessibility team as well. I haven't used the chat feature all that much, so can't comment, but below is zoom's accessibility team email.

access@...

below is their ticket system.

http://support.zoom.us/

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
 
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
 
To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
 
To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Chat Solutions for NVDA users

David Goldfield
 

Hi, Sam.

If you are in a channel where you have a list of messages, disabling browse mode and then pressing shift-f6 should move your focus to the list of messages. You will likely find yourself at the bottom of the list, pointing to the newest message in the stack. Pressing up arrow should move from one message to the next, going from newest to oldest. I have not tested this method with NVDA as I usually use browse mode. Admittedly, this may not be the most efficient way to read messages. However, it's the way that I first learned how to navigate in Slack and I find that my muscle memory just kicks in and allows me to navigate very quickly.

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com

On 3/1/2019 11:17 PM, Sam Bushman wrote:

Hi David,

 

I have been playing with slack. The added keyboard support is truly quite helpful.

I often have a problem using the f6 key taking me from section to section.

 

Can you please write me off list and maybe provide a few navigation tips?

 

I would be most grateful. I need this badly for work.

 

Thanks so much for your help.

 

Sam

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 8:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Chat Solutions for NVDA users

 

Regarding Slack I have used it and the program is accessible. However, just because a program is screen reader accessible doesn't necessarily mean that it has an intuitive user-friendly interface. While the UI could do with some improvements to make the program more usable for a screen reader user the fact is that it is usable enough that someone with decent screen reader skills should, after a bit of practice, be able to use it. The Windows version can either be used with browse mode disabled which, for some, may be more efficient or it can be used with browse mode enabled by navigating through messages as you would navigate a Web page. The iOS version, on the whole, is also fairly good. As someone else on this list has stated, the development team is extremely good at responding to users very quickly. Sometime last year, one of the developers inadvertently disabled the ability to navigate through messages using the virtual or browse mode cursor. As this is the way that I use Slack and since using the program is essential for me I was in a bit of a panic and contacted them via their Twitter account (their handle is @SlackHQ.) This was on a Thursday. I very shortly received an apology from one of the developers who understood what the issue was and he promptly fixed it by the end of Friday. That is certainly excellent service.

 

 

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com

On 3/1/2019 10:00 PM, David Goldfield wrote:

Hi, Gene.

Jonathan Mosen offers a tutorial covering the use of Zoom from a blindness perspective, which you can acquire from this link.



David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com

On 3/1/2019 2:06 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi

 

is there a tutorial on how to use zoom? with nvda? or a section to guide you on how to use it?

 

I have never used it.

 

Gene nz

 

On 2/03/2019 3:47 AM, Robert Kingett wrote:

I'd also try writing Zoom's accessibility team as well. I haven't used the chat feature all that much, so can't comment, but below is zoom's accessibility team email.

access@...

below is their ticket system.

http://support.zoom.us/

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
 
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
 
To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
 
To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Chat Solutions for NVDA users

Sam Bushman
 

Hi David,

 

I have been playing with slack. The added keyboard support is truly quite helpful.

I often have a problem using the f6 key taking me from section to section.

 

Can you please write me off list and maybe provide a few navigation tips?

 

I would be most grateful. I need this badly for work.

 

Thanks so much for your help.

 

Sam

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of David Goldfield
Sent: Friday, March 1, 2019 8:09 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Chat Solutions for NVDA users

 

Regarding Slack I have used it and the program is accessible. However, just because a program is screen reader accessible doesn't necessarily mean that it has an intuitive user-friendly interface. While the UI could do with some improvements to make the program more usable for a screen reader user the fact is that it is usable enough that someone with decent screen reader skills should, after a bit of practice, be able to use it. The Windows version can either be used with browse mode disabled which, for some, may be more efficient or it can be used with browse mode enabled by navigating through messages as you would navigate a Web page. The iOS version, on the whole, is also fairly good. As someone else on this list has stated, the development team is extremely good at responding to users very quickly. Sometime last year, one of the developers inadvertently disabled the ability to navigate through messages using the virtual or browse mode cursor. As this is the way that I use Slack and since using the program is essential for me I was in a bit of a panic and contacted them via their Twitter account (their handle is @SlackHQ.) This was on a Thursday. I very shortly received an apology from one of the developers who understood what the issue was and he promptly fixed it by the end of Friday. That is certainly excellent service.

 

 

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com

On 3/1/2019 10:00 PM, David Goldfield wrote:

Hi, Gene.

Jonathan Mosen offers a tutorial covering the use of Zoom from a blindness perspective, which you can acquire from this link.



David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com

On 3/1/2019 2:06 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi

 

is there a tutorial on how to use zoom? with nvda? or a section to guide you on how to use it?

 

I have never used it.

 

Gene nz

 

On 2/03/2019 3:47 AM, Robert Kingett wrote:

I'd also try writing Zoom's accessibility team as well. I haven't used the chat feature all that much, so can't comment, but below is zoom's accessibility team email.

access@...

below is their ticket system.

http://support.zoom.us/

--

Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
 
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
 
To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
 
To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Chat Solutions for NVDA users

David Goldfield
 

Regarding Slack I have used it and the program is accessible. However, just because a program is screen reader accessible doesn't necessarily mean that it has an intuitive user-friendly interface. While the UI could do with some improvements to make the program more usable for a screen reader user the fact is that it is usable enough that someone with decent screen reader skills should, after a bit of practice, be able to use it. The Windows version can either be used with browse mode disabled which, for some, may be more efficient or it can be used with browse mode enabled by navigating through messages as you would navigate a Web page. The iOS version, on the whole, is also fairly good. As someone else on this list has stated, the development team is extremely good at responding to users very quickly. Sometime last year, one of the developers inadvertently disabled the ability to navigate through messages using the virtual or browse mode cursor. As this is the way that I use Slack and since using the program is essential for me I was in a bit of a panic and contacted them via their Twitter account (their handle is @SlackHQ.) This was on a Thursday. I very shortly received an apology from one of the developers who understood what the issue was and he promptly fixed it by the end of Friday. That is certainly excellent service.



David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com

On 3/1/2019 10:00 PM, David Goldfield wrote:

Hi, Gene.

Jonathan Mosen offers a tutorial covering the use of Zoom from a blindness perspective, which you can acquire from this link.



David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com
On 3/1/2019 2:06 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi


is there a tutorial on how to use zoom? with nvda? or a section to guide you on how to use it?


I have never used it.


Gene nz


On 2/03/2019 3:47 AM, Robert Kingett wrote:

I'd also try writing Zoom's accessibility team as well. I haven't used the chat feature all that much, so can't comment, but below is zoom's accessibility team email.

access@...

below is their ticket system.

http://support.zoom.us/

--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
 
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
 
To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
 
To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Chat Solutions for NVDA users

David Goldfield
 

Hi, Gene.

Jonathan Mosen offers a tutorial covering the use of Zoom from a blindness perspective, which you can acquire from this link.



David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com

On 3/1/2019 2:06 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi


is there a tutorial on how to use zoom? with nvda? or a section to guide you on how to use it?


I have never used it.


Gene nz


On 2/03/2019 3:47 AM, Robert Kingett wrote:

I'd also try writing Zoom's accessibility team as well. I haven't used the chat feature all that much, so can't comment, but below is zoom's accessibility team email.

access@...

below is their ticket system.

http://support.zoom.us/

--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
 
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
 
To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
 
To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Brave browser

David Goldfield
 

It's been a while since I've used this browser and so things may have improved. When I last tried it using the menu was difficult as the menu items were included in the virtual buffer, as though the items were part of the Web page. I believe the items were actionable but, until this issue is resolved, it made using the browser not worth the aggravation.

David Goldfield, Assistive Technology Specialist WWW.David-Goldfield.Com

On 3/1/2019 6:04 PM, Steve Nutt wrote:

Hi,

 

Also, it doesn’t synchronise your stuff like Chrome does across devices.  A No-No for me.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 01 March 2019 21:49
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Brave browser

 

I read the PC World review, which I would suggest people who are interested in the browser read. 

The browser isn't any faster than other browsers.  it is loding considerably less information because, at the moment, it isn't loading advertising.  They will get, at least that is their intention, advertising over time. 

 

I don't understand enough about how their advertising system will work to evaluate itfrom an ethical perspective or from a perspective of whether the browser will survive or how advertising will affect speed as it is added. 

 

Also, and I don't know if people use enough Chrome extensions to matter, but a lot of extensions won't work in Brave.  They have to be adapted.

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Andy

Sent: Friday, March 01, 2019 3:34 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Brave browser

 

I installed it last night, and it feels just like Chrome, in fact, it uses
many Chrome elements including the Chrome Web store.

Andy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bobby Vinton" <vinton.bobby5277@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2019 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Brave browser


> Well brave browser is very fast and the good thing about it is that you
> have a built in add blocker. I am using the windows 10 latest version. It
> is just like google chrome
>
> On 3/1/2019 12:50 PM, Brice Mijares wrote:
>> I won't touch it until a portable version comes out.
>>
>>
>
>
>



application error in latest alpha

Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...>
 

Hi.  I am getting this error every time I restart the latest NVDA alpha:

Error message below

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NvdaHelper remote(outProcMgrThreadFunc) Dialog: error registering focus WinEventHook

//////////

There is then an ok button to get out of the dialog.  How it affects NVDA's workings, I am not as yet sure as I am just trying the alpha out.  Will report if there is any misbehavior.  Cheers!


Re: saving emails

Abbie Taylor
 

If you're using Thunderbird or Outlook, simply choose "Save as" from the file menu. You have the option of saving your message in several formats including html and text. I hope this helps.
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Re: Brave browser

Gene
 

Also, there is a portable version.  If you do a search for Brave Browser portable, you will see that portable apps has one.
 
Gene
----- Original Messsage -----

From: Steve Nutt
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2019 5:04 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Brave browser

Hi,

 

Also, it doesn’t synchronise your stuff like Chrome does across devices.  A No-No for me.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 01 March 2019 21:49
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Brave browser

 

I read the PC World review, which I would suggest people who are interested in the browser read. 

The browser isn't any faster than other browsers.  it is loding considerably less information because, at the moment, it isn't loading advertising.  They will get, at least that is their intention, advertising over time. 

 

I don't understand enough about how their advertising system will work to evaluate itfrom an ethical perspective or from a perspective of whether the browser will survive or how advertising will affect speed as it is added. 

 

Also, and I don't know if people use enough Chrome extensions to matter, but a lot of extensions won't work in Brave.  They have to be adapted.

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Andy

Sent: Friday, March 01, 2019 3:34 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Brave browser

 

I installed it last night, and it feels just like Chrome, in fact, it uses
many Chrome elements including the Chrome Web store.

Andy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bobby Vinton" <vinton.bobby5277@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2019 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Brave browser


> Well brave browser is very fast and the good thing about it is that you
> have a built in add blocker. I am using the windows 10 latest version. It
> is just like google chrome
>
> On 3/1/2019 12:50 PM, Brice Mijares wrote:
>> I won't touch it until a portable version comes out.
>>
>>
>
>
>



Re: Brave browser

Steve Nutt
 

Hi,

 

Also, it doesn’t synchronise your stuff like Chrome does across devices.  A No-No for me.

 

All the best


Steve

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: 01 March 2019 21:49
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Brave browser

 

I read the PC World review, which I would suggest people who are interested in the browser read. 

The browser isn't any faster than other browsers.  it is loding considerably less information because, at the moment, it isn't loading advertising.  They will get, at least that is their intention, advertising over time. 

 

I don't understand enough about how their advertising system will work to evaluate itfrom an ethical perspective or from a perspective of whether the browser will survive or how advertising will affect speed as it is added. 

 

Also, and I don't know if people use enough Chrome extensions to matter, but a lot of extensions won't work in Brave.  They have to be adapted.

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Andy

Sent: Friday, March 01, 2019 3:34 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Brave browser

 

I installed it last night, and it feels just like Chrome, in fact, it uses
many Chrome elements including the Chrome Web store.

Andy

----- Original Message -----
From: "Bobby Vinton" <vinton.bobby5277@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, March 01, 2019 9:58 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Brave browser


> Well brave browser is very fast and the good thing about it is that you
> have a built in add blocker. I am using the windows 10 latest version. It
> is just like google chrome
>
> On 3/1/2019 12:50 PM, Brice Mijares wrote:
>> I won't touch it until a portable version comes out.
>>
>>
>
>
>



Re: backing up thunderbird

Kevin Cussick
 

Hi, no problems fully accessible using Nvda.

On 01/03/2019 22:41, Brice Mijares wrote:
I downloaded it, but haven't tried it yet. may do it over the weekend. thanks.
On 3/1/2019 1:23 PM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi,   no worries are you going to try it?

On 28/02/2019 23:45, Brice Mijares wrote:
Thank you for the info.

On 2/28/2019 2:36 PM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
it is a program for backing up everything in any Mozilla program and then you can restore it say on a clean install and have all your stuff like address books and so on in mail.   and bookmarks. in your firefox.

On 28/02/2019 22:29, Brice Mijares wrote:
Would you explain what this most backup is? thank you.

On 2/28/2019 2:14 PM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:
Hi,   the easy way is download moz backup  and install it this will back up everything I have used it for years. download link from my one drive folder below.

https://1drv.ms/u/s!Ame5fFtwuKO3zFyN0iTjnA0hiJe3

On 28/02/2019 21:07, Annette Moore wrote:
ron, does this save all of your configuration, as well as your messages? I care more about the configuration than about actually keeping any of my messages because it took about an hour for me to get everything I wanted/needed configured to the way I needed it sinceI have three email accounts. I have the instructions saved that Richard Wels gave me, but shoot, if I could back all that up and not have to go through that again with any clean install of thunderbird on a future new computer, that would be great!

Annette

On 2/28/2019 1:13 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:

Hi Group,


This probably varies from mail program to mail program, but when using Thunderbird, you can back up almost everything by doing the following.


1.  Close Thunderbird.

2.  From the run dialogue, type %appdata% and press enter.

3.  You are in the roaming folder.  This folder contains all the application data, settings, address book and e-mails from Thunderbird.

4.  navigate to the folder named Thunderbird and when highlighted, press control + C to copy that folder.

5.  Then paste this folder onto a thumb drive, external hard drive or some similar device and you have everything backed up.

6.  Now if for some reason, you need a fresh install of Thunderbird or if you get a new computer and use Thunderbird, you can simply install Thunderbird and navigate to the Roaming folder as described in steps 1 through 3 above and paste the contents of the Thunderbird folder that you have copied into the Roaming folder.


I do this every few days to keep the mail and settings of Thunderbird backed up.


On 2/28/2019 1:14 PM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:
100% agreed. Very, very well said, indeed.

Now I definitely would like to know how I can backup my messages. I never did it before just because I never knew it was even possible. Help me with this, please?

Cheers,
Marcio
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Em 28/02/2019 15:09, Travis Siegel escreveu:

Wishing something would go away because it doesn't fit your definition of what is useful is just plain silly.

If that were the case, then I wish narrator would go away, I whish jaws wold go away, I wish windows would go away. Hell, I wish microsoft would go away.

\See, it serves no purpose.

There are people who use pop3, and it works just fine for them. There are definitely use cases where pop3 is a better fit than imap, and there are use cases where imap is clearly the better alternative.  Wishing one or the other would go away is just ignorance talking.

If you don't wish to use it, then don't, but that doesn't mean that others who are fully aware of what they're getting, and do wish to use it shouldn't do so.  I for one much prefer pop3, for several reasons, including disk usage, security, issues, ease of backup, and others.

When folks talk about folks loosing years worth of emails because they used pop3, my question is did those folks ever backup their mail? I'm thinking no.  Sure, it's not the easiest thing to move mail from one email client to another, but you're just as likely to loose all your imap messages if your email provider goes bye-bye as well, and nobody here can tell me that's never happened.

It's six of one, and half dozen of the other, use what works for you, and allow others to use what works for them.


On 2/28/2019 12:47 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

With my old internet provider, I had a pop 3 account. After I got to a certain amount of messages, my email started bouncing. I don't think people are using pop so much anymore but I could be wrong. I wish pop 3 would go away too.

*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Sarah k Alawami
*Sent:* Thursday, February 28, 2019 8:27 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] POP is unwise [was: Being Unsubscribed for Marking Messages as Spam #adminnotice]

Yes you can. I have about 200 thousand messages on gmail's server and it doesn't really complain at me. You can also clean them up using iMap as well. I use iMap and wish that pop 3 would just go away and die. All the email and attachments are backed up in the cloud and no matter what device as stated you are on you can always get your mail. I lost over 3 years worth of messages once so am not going back to pop3.

On 28 Feb 2019, at 7:49, Gene wrote:

    I don't use IMAP so others can answer the question.  But I'm
    sure you can delete messages if you wish. As I understand it,
    you can keep a large number on the server if you wish.

    Gene

    ----- Original Message -----

    *From:*marcio via Groups.Io
    <mailto:marcinhorj21@...>

    *Sent:*Thursday, February 28, 2019 9:37 AM

    *To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

    *Subject:*Re: [nvda] POP is unwise [was: Being Unsubscribed for
    Marking Messages as Spam #adminnotice]

    Em 28/02/2019 12:34, Gene escreveu:

        unless you want a permanent collection of all your received
        messages off site.

    Does it means that using IMAP I won't be able to delete any
    message?

    Cheers,

    Marcio
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Checking A Web Page For Accessibility

Ervin, Glenn
 

Hi,

A client would like to check out a high school’s new web page for accessibility, because they have had trouble with its accessibility in the past.

What is the best site for checking a web page?

Thanks.

Glenn

 

Glenn Ervin  Orientation Counselor II

Norfolk Nebraska

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Cell: 402 992 0325

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