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Off Topic Kindle windows app

ADRIAN POCOCK
 

Email me off list at ampbeast@...

I use a mix of nvda and full screen magnification to read mail in thunderbird.

Kindle reading app for windows 7.

Is there anyway to show you your position of reading as it reads out loud.


Regards Adrian Pocock.


Re: Draft view in Microsoft word.

Jonathan COHN
 

This might be available in the advanced settings of Word. Try the alt-d shortcut once you have the advanced settings open. I am not positive this forces draft mode, but my guess is that it does.

 

Jonathan

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Kingett
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2019 7:12 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Draft view in Microsoft word.
Importance: Low

 

Per a few other blind writers, and the suggestion in the what's new for the beta, I tried draft view in MS word 2016, Office 365, and it is, in fact, much speedier to edit documents and otherwise, but the problem I keep running into is getting word to open in draft view, rather than print layout view.

 

I've tried editing the Normal template directly by opening it through Microsoft word, making changes to it, adding header text, doing all the writer requirement things for literary markets, switching the view to draft view after making all the changes, then, saving by hitting CTRL S, but upon opening a new, blank, document, the view defaults to print layout view. Does anyone know of another way to always open in draft view?

 

I've also tried opening the normal template through Microsoft word, then, immediately switching the view to draft view, then making formatting changes, then saving the template, but it still opens to print layout view.


Re: backing up thunderbird

Arlene
 

At would be nice but the old computer is totally and completely gone! It’s right gone!   Thanks for future use if I need this!  The guy at the sorrce said that old windows system was dying anyway!  I even said scrub it out and put a generic win 7 an see if it will work. He said not worth it.  I told them to recycle it.  So now it’s right right right gone!  No getting it back just for  a ten dollar sound card!  I tell you it’s right right right Gone!  That computer is so old it probably wont even handle a cheep ten dollar sound card!  Here’s to my old win 7 box, to Quat Death on 2 legs Lyrics. “Now you can kiss my but goodbye”

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: March 4, 2019 12:04 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] backing up thunderbird

 

I havn't had ports burn out though I had a ram slot do that once.

Now, atguys.com has a cheap sound card for 10 bucks if you care.

 

 

On 4/03/2019 1:24 PM, Arlene wrote:

I could have done so. But here is the thing! If I did wait for a cheep usb sound card. I would have gotten it in the middle of March.  I’m taking a food safe class.  I got another extension until the end of March.  The guy at the source store said it would not be worth it.  When he was moving documents from my old computer He discovered that I had 3 or 4 ports burned out!  He tried putting speakers into all my usb ports and he found 3 or 4 of them burned out.  He and the people I live with My room mate and her family said just take the new computer and let the old one go.  I didn’t want to but it was time for it to go! I let the source store recycle the old win 7. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: March 1, 2019 4:57 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] backing up thunderbird

 

I would suggest getting a cheap perhaps ten or fifteen U.S. dollar sound card and seeing if you can use the old computer with it.  its good to have another computer available and I always have at least two functioning computers available.  I recall you lost sound but that may mean your built-in sound card is no longer working.  All it may need is a USB sound card to get audio back.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

 

From: Arlene

Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 10:27 PM

Subject: Re: backing up thunderbirdRe: [nvda] POP is unwise [was: Being Unsubscribed for Marking Messages as Spam #adminnotice]

 

Hey list! Arlene here; I'm writing to you on this new win ten laptop.
My win 7 box bit the dust! I lost all sound. A sighted person can
operate it.  But I could not. I just got this computer on Tuesday.
One question I want to ask. Can I put Gmail onto Thunderbird? If so,
How can I do it? Thanks! Have a good night!

On 2/28/19, Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@...> wrote:
> Hi Annette,
>
>
> As far as I can tell, everything is saved. I just updated a day ago and
> when I opened the back up version of Thunderbird on my back up system,
> the address book, the folder structure (I have 17 sub folders under
> Inbox) the layout and even the order of message selection was saved.
>
>
> On 2/28/2019 4:07 PM, Annette Moore wrote:
>>
>> ron, does this save all of your configuration, as well as your
>> messages? I care more about the configuration than about actually
>> keeping any of my messages because it took about an hour for me to get
>> everything I wanted/needed configured to the way I needed it sinceI
>> have three email accounts. I have the instructions saved that Richard
>> Wels gave me, but shoot, if I could back all that up and not have to
>> go through that again with any clean install of thunderbird on a
>> future new computer, that would be great!
>>
>> Annette
>>
>> On 2/28/2019 1:13 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Group,
>>>
>>>
>>> This probably varies from mail program to mail program, but when
>>> using Thunderbird, you can back up almost everything by doing the
>>> following.
>>>
>>>
>>> 1.  Close Thunderbird.
>>>
>>> 2.  From the run dialogue, type %appdata% and press enter.
>>>
>>> 3.  You are in the roaming folder.  This folder contains all the
>>> application data, settings, address book and e-mails from Thunderbird.
>>>
>>> 4.  navigate to the folder named Thunderbird and when highlighted,
>>> press control + C to copy that folder.
>>>
>>> 5.  Then paste this folder onto a thumb drive, external hard drive or
>>> some similar device and you have everything backed up.
>>>
>>> 6.  Now if for some reason, you need a fresh install of Thunderbird
>>> or if you get a new computer and use Thunderbird, you can simply
>>> install Thunderbird and navigate to the Roaming folder as described
>>> in steps 1 through 3 above and paste the contents of the Thunderbird
>>> folder that you have copied into the Roaming folder.
>>>
>>>
>>> I do this every few days to keep the mail and settings of Thunderbird
>>> backed up.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/28/2019 1:14 PM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:
>>>> 100% agreed. Very, very well said, indeed.
>>>>
>>>> Now I definitely would like to know how I can backup my messages. I
>>>> never did it before just because I never knew it was even possible.
>>>> Help me with this, please?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Marcio
>>>> Follow or add me on Facebook <https://facebook.com/firirinfonfon>
>>>>
>>>> Em 28/02/2019 15:09, Travis Siegel escreveu:
>>>>>
>>>>> Wishing something would go away because it doesn't fit your
>>>>> definition of what is useful is just plain silly.
>>>>>
>>>>> If that were the case, then I wish narrator would go away, I whish
>>>>> jaws wold go away, I wish windows would go away.  Hell, I wish
>>>>> microsoft would go away.
>>>>>
>>>>> \See, it serves no purpose.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are people who use pop3, and it works just fine for them.
>>>>> There are definitely use cases where pop3 is a better fit than
>>>>> imap, and there are use cases where imap is clearly the better
>>>>> alternative.  Wishing one or the other would go away is just
>>>>> ignorance talking.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you don't wish to use it, then don't, but that doesn't mean that
>>>>> others who are fully aware of what they're getting, and do wish to
>>>>> use it shouldn't do so.  I for one much prefer pop3, for several
>>>>> reasons, including disk usage, security, issues, ease of backup,
>>>>> and others.
>>>>>
>>>>> When folks talk about folks loosing years worth of emails because
>>>>> they used pop3, my question is did those folks ever backup their
>>>>> mail? I'm thinking no.  Sure, it's not the easiest thing to move
>>>>> mail from one email client to another, but you're just as likely to
>>>>> loose all your imap messages if your email provider goes bye-bye as
>>>>> well, and nobody here can tell me that's never happened.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's six of one, and half dozen of the other, use what works for
>>>>> you, and allow others to use what works for them.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/28/2019 12:47 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> With my old internet provider, I had a pop 3 account. After I got
>>>>>> to a certain amount of messages, my email started bouncing. I
>>>>>> don't think people are using pop so much anymore but I could be
>>>>>> wrong. I wish pop 3 would go away too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf
>>>>>> Of *Sarah k Alawami
>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 28, 2019 8:27 AM
>>>>>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] POP is unwise [was: Being Unsubscribed for
>>>>>> Marking Messages as Spam #adminnotice]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes you can. I have about 200 thousand messages on gmail's server
>>>>>> and it doesn't really complain at me. You can also clean them up
>>>>>> using iMap as well. I use iMap and wish that pop 3 would just go
>>>>>> away and die. All the email and attachments are backed up in the
>>>>>> cloud and no matter what device as stated you are on you can
>>>>>> always get your mail. I lost over 3 years worth of messages once
>>>>>> so am not going back to pop3.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 28 Feb 2019, at 7:49, Gene wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     I don't use IMAP so others can answer the question.  But I'm
>>>>>>     sure you can delete messages if you wish. As I understand it,
>>>>>>     you can keep a large number on the server if you wish.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Gene
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     *From:*marcio via Groups.Io
>>>>>>     <mailto:marcinhorj21@...>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     *Sent:*Thursday, February 28, 2019 9:37 AM
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     *To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     *Subject:*Re: [nvda] POP is unwise [was: Being Unsubscribed
>>>>>>     for Marking Messages as Spam #adminnotice]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Em 28/02/2019 12:34, Gene escreveu:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         unless you want a permanent collection of all your
>>>>>>         received messages off site.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Does it means that using IMAP I won't be able to delete any
>>>>>>     message?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Marcio
>>>>>>     Follow or add me on Facebook <https://facebook.com/firirinfonfon>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=icon>
>>>>>
>>>>> Virus-free. www.avast.com
>>>>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=link>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
>>>>
>>> --
>>> They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
>>> They ask: "How Happy are You?"
>>> I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
>>
>
> --
> They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
> They ask: "How Happy are You?"
> I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
>
>
>
>
>


 

 


Off Topic Thunderbird reading messages view

ADRIAN POCOCK
 

Email me off list at ampbeast@...

I use a mix of nvda and full screen magnification to read mail in thunderbird.


I noticed that there is no text cursor to follow where i am whilst nvda reads the message.

Is this normal and if so is there a way to do it apart from editing the original message.

Also is there a way of having more than one filter applied to the sorting order of emails in inbox.

Lastly does anyone know of any add-on to move all messages from one subject as in the threads to create one combined email.

I know i have asked a lot, but if anyone knows anything that would help me out a lot.

Regards Adrian Pocock.


Re: NVDA 2019.1 beta 1 available for testing

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

You should only hear it when starting up outlook, right?

Cheers,
Ralf

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Montag, 4. März 2019 17:36
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2019.1 beta 1 available for testing

I only get it in outlook.



-----Original Message-----
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Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019 2:39 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2019.1 beta 1 available for testing

Now I don't get the dinging. I thought it was an issue with an add on?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2019 4:10 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2019.1 beta 1 available for testing


Hi, Quentin,



I just downloaded the beta version and it's working great for me. I do get
the dinging sound but other than that, it's working great for me.



Rosemarie







From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin
Christensen
Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2019 5:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2019.1 beta 1 available for testing



Original post at:
https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-1beta1-available-for-testing/




NVDA 2019.1beta1 available for testing




March 4, 2019 10:10 am

Beta1 of NVDA 2019.1 is now available for download and testing. For anyone
who is interested in trying out what NVDA 2019.1 has to offer before it is
officially released, we welcome you to download the beta and provide
feedback.

Highlights of this release include performance improvements when accessing
both Microsoft word and Excel, stability and security improvements such as
support for add-ons with version compatibility information, and many other
bug fixes.

Although we recommend always reading the full list of changes (linked
below), it is worth noting several important changes in regards to add-ons
and other custom code:

NVDA will no longer automatically load custom appModules, globalPlugins and
braille and synth drivers from the NVDA user configuration directory. This
code should be instead packaged as an add-on with correct version
information, ensuring that incompatible code is not run with current
versions of NVDA. For developers who need to test code as it is being
developed, enable NVDA’s developer scratchpad directory in the Advanced
category of NVDA settings, and place your code in the ‘scratchpad’ directory
found in the NVDA user configuration directory when this option is enabled.

Also, add-ons can now specify a minimum required NVDA version, and the last
tested NVDA version, in their manifest. If this version of NVDA is outside
of the specified range, NVDA will refuse to install or enable that
particular add-on. This version of NVDA will however still allow installing
and loading of add-ons that do not yet contain Minimum and Last Tested NVDA
version information at all, but upgrading to future versions of NVDA (E.g.
2019.2) may automatically cause these older add-ons to be disabled.



*
<https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/releases/2019.1beta1/nvda_2019.1beta1.exe>
Download NVDA 2019.1beta1

*
<https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/releases/2019.1beta1/nvda_2019.1beta1_changes.html>
What’s new in this release of NVDA

* Please report any issues
<https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues> on GitHub.

--

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Training and Support Manager



Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available:
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Re: nvda addon for eurofly, a flight simulator from stefan kiss.

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

It really depends on whether those numbers exist as numbers in an accessible way. However there is more to landing a plane than altitude, airspeed is rather important as well!
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "cisco" <audiogamer2004@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2019 5:01 PM
Subject: [nvda] nvda addon for eurofly, a flight simulator from stefan kiss.


hey all. Cisco talking. i wanted to ask you if someone was available to try and develop an add-on which will announce, when landing, the altitudes 1000, 500, 400, 300, 200, 100, 50, 40, 30, 20 and 10. i think that this may be done, hmm, detecting the altitude via the z key but with out affecting the user END.

i could provide the sounds, if you guys want.

if you want to try just private email me.

i am asking this because i don't know how to code in Pithon.

THANKS IN ADVANCE.


CISCO.



Re: Joseph Lee's add-ons and NVDA 2019.1: supported add-ons are compatible

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Well good luck to you Joseph. It can be hard sometimes as there is a proverb here in the uK Let the willing horse carry the load, but they forget about the limits of that load!

It can be hard even at my age when lots of things I feel passionate about come along to prioritise what to do.
Lets just say one humbling statement for us all to remember is this. The cemeteries are full of people who were indispensable.
The world will get along, in the end, you can only do so much.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2019 4:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Joseph Lee's add-ons and NVDA 2019.1: supported add-ons are compatible


Hi all,

Also, I'm taking a break from everything that has to do with NVDA for a few
weeks so I can get my health back. After a busy weekend and doing some
internal translations work, it has become clear to me that I have sort of
reached the limit as to how many things I can do at once. Thus, in order to
concentrate on things outside of NVDA, I'm suspending all work related to
NVDA, including add-on releases and development, code contribution and what
not (for translators: I have resigned from translation work, but did say
I'll help out with 2019.1 translations).

In case folks would like to reach me online, emails will work. For those
wishing to (finally) meet me offline, although I won't be going to CSUN
conference due to scheduling conflicts, I'll be going to a national speech
tournament in April to be held at Santa Ana, California.

Cheers,

Joseph



From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via
Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019 8:19 AM
To: 'NVDA screen reader development' <nvda-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>
Subject: [nvda] Joseph Lee's add-ons and NVDA 2019.1: supported add-ons are
compatible



Hi everyone,



As agreed to between add-on authors a few weeks ago (announcing
compatibility statements between beta 1 and official release), I'd like to
let folks know that supported add-ons coming from me are compatible with
NVDA 2019.1. Supported add-ons include:



* Add-on Updater
* Easy Table Navigator
* Enhanced Touch Gestures
* Golden Cursor (maintenance only)
* GoldWave
* ObjPad
* Object Location Tones
* Resource Monitor
* Screen Curtain (experimental)
* StationPlaylist Studio
* SystrayList
* Virtual Review
* Windows 10 App Essentials



Important notices regarding some of these:



* Add-on Updater: 30 days after release of NVDA 2019.1, support for
2018.4 will be dropped from this add-on.
* StationPlaylist Studio: for people using 18.09.x-LTS, after release
of 18.09.8 in April, 18.09.x will enter bug fix only mode. Also, for those
using stable releases, version 19.06 and later will require Studio 5.20 and
later.
* Windows 10 App Essentials: 30 days after release of NVDA 2019.1,
support for 2018.3 will be dropped from this add-on as for add-on
maintenance policy (supporting current and immediate past releases).



For add-ons dropping support for older NVDA releases:



1. Although I did say 30 days, the schedule is a bit flexible, and I'll
let you know when support for older NVDA releases ends.
2. For people using Add-on Updater (or for that matter, NVDA 2019.1
beta 1 and later), ending support for old NVDA releases means add-on
manifest will be edited to reflect this change.



Lastly, although not stated in the subject line, once Python 3 version of
NVDA ships, most (if not all) add-ons maintained by me will require that
version of NVDA at some point in the future. To help out with transitions,
I'll give you a grace period where you can evaluate that future version of
NVDA. Once the grace period closes, there's no going back.



Cheers,

Joseph






Re: NVDA 2019.1 beta 1 available for testing

cisco
 

for me, the beta is working very nicely.

On 3/4/2019 6:35 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
What external synth? Those are pretty old fashioned and had limited abilities so maybe its just not capable of doing  it with the driver in use?
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Nancy Shackelford" <n.k.nancelady@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2019 1:16 PM
Subject: [nvda] Quentin - NVDA 2019.1 beta 1 available for testing


When using external synth with NVDA, starting with 2018... I believe
3-something, synth speaks "less than" with any movement of a cursor.
Has nothing to do with punctuation settings.

Thank you,

Nance

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Re: Joseph Lee's add-ons and NVDA 2019.1: supported add-ons are compatible

cisco
 

Josef. just one thing to say, thanks for your grate work! now, ricaveri and stay well.

On 3/4/2019 6:11 PM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:
Joseph,
First, thank for your wonderful work to this NVDA community. You are so kind donating your time to help improving others' lives.
So, take your time and I hope you'll stay well.

Until and even after we meet here again,
All the very best to you.

Em 04/03/2019 13:43, Joseph Lee escreveu:

Hi all,

Also, I’m taking a break from everything that has to do with NVDA for a few weeks so I can get my health back. After a busy weekend and doing some internal translations work, it has become clear to me that I have sort of reached the limit as to how many things I can do at once. Thus, in order to concentrate on things outside of NVDA, I’m suspending all work related to NVDA, including add-on releases and development, code contribution and what not (for translators: I have resigned from translation work, but did say I’ll help out with 2019.1 translations).

In case folks would like to reach me online, emails will work. For those wishing to (finally) meet me offline, although I won’t be going to CSUN conference due to scheduling conflicts, I’ll be going to a national speech tournament in April to be held at Santa Ana, California.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019 8:19 AM
To: 'NVDA screen reader development' <nvda-devel@...>
Subject: [nvda] Joseph Lee's add-ons and NVDA 2019.1: supported add-ons are compatible

 

Hi everyone,

 

As agreed to between add-on authors a few weeks ago (announcing compatibility statements between beta 1 and official release), I’d like to let folks know that supported add-ons coming from me are compatible with NVDA 2019.1. Supported add-ons include:

 

  • Add-on Updater
  • Easy Table Navigator
  • Enhanced Touch Gestures
  • Golden Cursor (maintenance only)
  • GoldWave
  • ObjPad
  • Object Location Tones
  • Resource Monitor
  • Screen Curtain (experimental)
  • StationPlaylist Studio
  • SystrayList
  • Virtual Review
  • Windows 10 App Essentials

 

Important notices regarding some of these:

 

  • Add-on Updater: 30 days after release of NVDA 2019.1, support for 2018.4 will be dropped from this add-on.
  • StationPlaylist Studio: for people using 18.09.x-LTS, after release of 18.09.8 in April, 18.09.x will enter bug fix only mode. Also, for those using stable releases, version 19.06 and later will require Studio 5.20 and later.
  • Windows 10 App Essentials: 30 days after release of NVDA 2019.1, support for 2018.3 will be dropped from this add-on as for add-on maintenance policy (supporting current and immediate past releases).

 

For add-ons dropping support for older NVDA releases:

 

  1. Although I did say 30 days, the schedule is a bit flexible, and I’ll let you know when support for older NVDA releases ends.
  2. For people using Add-on Updater (or for that matter, NVDA 2019.1 beta 1 and later), ending support for old NVDA releases means add-on manifest will be edited to reflect this change.

 

Lastly, although not stated in the subject line, once Python 3 version of NVDA ships, most (if not all) add-ons maintained by me will require that version of NVDA at some point in the future. To help out with transitions, I’ll give you a grace period where you can evaluate that future version of NVDA. Once the grace period closes, there’s no going back.

 

Cheers,

Joseph



Re: NVDA 2019.1 beta 1 available for testing

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What external synth? Those are pretty old fashioned and had limited abilities so maybe its just not capable of doing it with the driver in use?
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2019 1:16 PM
Subject: [nvda] Quentin - NVDA 2019.1 beta 1 available for testing


When using external synth with NVDA, starting with 2018... I believe
3-something, synth speaks "less than" with any movement of a cursor.
Has nothing to do with punctuation settings.

Thank you,

Nance

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Re: Controlling NVDA in speaking Accessibility help and description property

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I don't see one either, but there is an advanced settings mode in the latest beta release.
Not sure if the item in there about uia will help or hinder you.
Brian

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Subject: [nvda] Controlling NVDA in speaking Accessibility help and description property


All,

I haven't found an option to turn off MS UIA or MSAA help and description accessibility property field. I am using an application where the developers are using the description field incorrectly. So I am wondering if this is possible in NVDA?


Re: Draft view in Microsoft word.

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Is this still going on, blimey it was a pest in 2002!
Brian

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Sent: Monday, March 04, 2019 12:12 PM
Subject: [nvda] Draft view in Microsoft word.


Per a few other blind writers, and the suggestion in the what's new for
the beta, I tried draft view in MS word 2016, Office 365, and it is, in
fact, much speedier to edit documents and otherwise, but the problem I
keep running into is getting word to open in draft view, rather than
print layout view.


I've tried editing the Normal template directly by opening it through
Microsoft word, making changes to it, adding header text, doing all the
writer requirement things for literary markets, switching the view to
draft view after making all the changes, then, saving by hitting CTRL S,
but upon opening a new, blank, document, the view defaults to print
layout view. Does anyone know of another way to always open in draft view?


I've also tried opening the normal template through Microsoft word,
then, immediately switching the view to draft view, then making
formatting changes, then saving the template, but it still opens to
print layout view.




Re: Joseph Lee's add-ons and NVDA 2019.1: supported add-ons are compatible

 

Joseph,
First, thank for your wonderful work to this NVDA community. You are so kind donating your time to help improving others' lives.
So, take your time and I hope you'll stay well.

Until and even after we meet here again,
All the very best to you.

Em 04/03/2019 13:43, Joseph Lee escreveu:

Hi all,

Also, I’m taking a break from everything that has to do with NVDA for a few weeks so I can get my health back. After a busy weekend and doing some internal translations work, it has become clear to me that I have sort of reached the limit as to how many things I can do at once. Thus, in order to concentrate on things outside of NVDA, I’m suspending all work related to NVDA, including add-on releases and development, code contribution and what not (for translators: I have resigned from translation work, but did say I’ll help out with 2019.1 translations).

In case folks would like to reach me online, emails will work. For those wishing to (finally) meet me offline, although I won’t be going to CSUN conference due to scheduling conflicts, I’ll be going to a national speech tournament in April to be held at Santa Ana, California.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019 8:19 AM
To: 'NVDA screen reader development' <nvda-devel@...>
Subject: [nvda] Joseph Lee's add-ons and NVDA 2019.1: supported add-ons are compatible

 

Hi everyone,

 

As agreed to between add-on authors a few weeks ago (announcing compatibility statements between beta 1 and official release), I’d like to let folks know that supported add-ons coming from me are compatible with NVDA 2019.1. Supported add-ons include:

 

  • Add-on Updater
  • Easy Table Navigator
  • Enhanced Touch Gestures
  • Golden Cursor (maintenance only)
  • GoldWave
  • ObjPad
  • Object Location Tones
  • Resource Monitor
  • Screen Curtain (experimental)
  • StationPlaylist Studio
  • SystrayList
  • Virtual Review
  • Windows 10 App Essentials

 

Important notices regarding some of these:

 

  • Add-on Updater: 30 days after release of NVDA 2019.1, support for 2018.4 will be dropped from this add-on.
  • StationPlaylist Studio: for people using 18.09.x-LTS, after release of 18.09.8 in April, 18.09.x will enter bug fix only mode. Also, for those using stable releases, version 19.06 and later will require Studio 5.20 and later.
  • Windows 10 App Essentials: 30 days after release of NVDA 2019.1, support for 2018.3 will be dropped from this add-on as for add-on maintenance policy (supporting current and immediate past releases).

 

For add-ons dropping support for older NVDA releases:

 

  1. Although I did say 30 days, the schedule is a bit flexible, and I’ll let you know when support for older NVDA releases ends.
  2. For people using Add-on Updater (or for that matter, NVDA 2019.1 beta 1 and later), ending support for old NVDA releases means add-on manifest will be edited to reflect this change.

 

Lastly, although not stated in the subject line, once Python 3 version of NVDA ships, most (if not all) add-ons maintained by me will require that version of NVDA at some point in the future. To help out with transitions, I’ll give you a grace period where you can evaluate that future version of NVDA. Once the grace period closes, there’s no going back.

 

Cheers,

Joseph



nvda addon for eurofly, a flight simulator from stefan kiss.

cisco
 

hey all. Cisco talking. i wanted to ask you if someone was available to try and develop an add-on which will announce, when landing, the altitudes 1000, 500, 400, 300, 200, 100, 50, 40, 30, 20 and 10. i think that this may be done, hmm, detecting the altitude via the z key but with out affecting the user END.

i could provide the sounds, if you guys want.

if you want to try just private email me.

i am asking this because i don't know how to code in Pithon.

THANKS IN ADVANCE.


CISCO.


Re: NVDA and Zotero

Antony Stone
 

Why do people ask questions like this instead of just looking things up for
themselves? It's quicker, more informative, and keeps the list tidier.

For example, I also didn't know what Zotero was, so I typed "Zotero" into my
Google search bar.

The first result was https://www.zotero.org/

The second result was https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zotero

That was quick, simple and informative.

Regards,


Antony.

On Monday 04 March 2019 at 17:37:54, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote:

Sally, may I ask what is Zotero?
--
I lay awake all night wondering where the sun went, and then it dawned on me.

Please reply to the list;
please *don't* CC me.


Re: Joseph Lee's add-ons and NVDA 2019.1: supported add-ons are compatible

 

Hi all,

Also, I’m taking a break from everything that has to do with NVDA for a few weeks so I can get my health back. After a busy weekend and doing some internal translations work, it has become clear to me that I have sort of reached the limit as to how many things I can do at once. Thus, in order to concentrate on things outside of NVDA, I’m suspending all work related to NVDA, including add-on releases and development, code contribution and what not (for translators: I have resigned from translation work, but did say I’ll help out with 2019.1 translations).

In case folks would like to reach me online, emails will work. For those wishing to (finally) meet me offline, although I won’t be going to CSUN conference due to scheduling conflicts, I’ll be going to a national speech tournament in April to be held at Santa Ana, California.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019 8:19 AM
To: 'NVDA screen reader development' <nvda-devel@...>
Subject: [nvda] Joseph Lee's add-ons and NVDA 2019.1: supported add-ons are compatible

 

Hi everyone,

 

As agreed to between add-on authors a few weeks ago (announcing compatibility statements between beta 1 and official release), I’d like to let folks know that supported add-ons coming from me are compatible with NVDA 2019.1. Supported add-ons include:

 

  • Add-on Updater
  • Easy Table Navigator
  • Enhanced Touch Gestures
  • Golden Cursor (maintenance only)
  • GoldWave
  • ObjPad
  • Object Location Tones
  • Resource Monitor
  • Screen Curtain (experimental)
  • StationPlaylist Studio
  • SystrayList
  • Virtual Review
  • Windows 10 App Essentials

 

Important notices regarding some of these:

 

  • Add-on Updater: 30 days after release of NVDA 2019.1, support for 2018.4 will be dropped from this add-on.
  • StationPlaylist Studio: for people using 18.09.x-LTS, after release of 18.09.8 in April, 18.09.x will enter bug fix only mode. Also, for those using stable releases, version 19.06 and later will require Studio 5.20 and later.
  • Windows 10 App Essentials: 30 days after release of NVDA 2019.1, support for 2018.3 will be dropped from this add-on as for add-on maintenance policy (supporting current and immediate past releases).

 

For add-ons dropping support for older NVDA releases:

 

  1. Although I did say 30 days, the schedule is a bit flexible, and I’ll let you know when support for older NVDA releases ends.
  2. For people using Add-on Updater (or for that matter, NVDA 2019.1 beta 1 and later), ending support for old NVDA releases means add-on manifest will be edited to reflect this change.

 

Lastly, although not stated in the subject line, once Python 3 version of NVDA ships, most (if not all) add-ons maintained by me will require that version of NVDA at some point in the future. To help out with transitions, I’ll give you a grace period where you can evaluate that future version of NVDA. Once the grace period closes, there’s no going back.

 

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: NVDA and Zotero

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

Sally, may I ask what is Zotero?

 

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From: Sally Kiebdaj
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019 8:51 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Zotero

 

Hello, 

I haven't cited any books yet so don't have an answer. Would you like me to ask a librarian and see if their instructions help?

For your solution to the multiple references, I see no buttons. Are you in the classic citation view or no? What operating system are you using? I would love to figure this out with your help.

As a side note, I would really like if we could pool our expertise and write up a guide for Gene'S website. I feel strongly that academic Programs like this are just as important to explain and support as more basic ones.

Cheers,
Sally

 

On Sun, Mar 3, 2019, 16:06 enes sarıbaş <enes.saribas@...> wrote:

hi,

There is a solution for multiple citations. There is a numbered button, click one after moving focus to the citation you want to add after the first, and it will add it. IOne of them will add, while the other removes.

I have another problem. Do you know how to change a book entry to book section, and then add authors and editors? When I change the editor field to an author, or vice versa, wrong author is changed.

On 3/1/2019 10:00 PM, Sally Kiebdaj wrote:

Hi all,

 

To revive this thread, I can give a partial answer to the original question and need to ask one of my own.

 

If you go to the zotero desktop application and under preferences find citation then word processor and check the "use classic citation  checkbox, you will get a dialogue in word that is 99% accessible. 

 

The only thing that has not worked for me is citing multiple works in a single in text citation. In the classic citation dialogue there is an add button that NVDA does not see with any cursor and in the default dialogue I hear only a string of HTML code rather than "unknown." 

 

i have posted to the zotero forum and will let you know what i hear back. 

 

Does anyone else have experience here with zotero or any other free citation manager? 

 

It was a huge help to have this on my last paper and I'd like to see it work or have access to something equivalent for academic writing. 

 

Warmly,

Sally 

 

On Sun, Jul 29, 2018 at 11:56 AM Jason White via Groups.Io <jason=jasonjgw.net@groups.io> wrote:

Reference management and citation generation.

On 7/29/18, 06:30, "Ben J. Bloomgren" <nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of godsquad@...> wrote:

    What does Zotero do?


    Ben


    On 7/29/2018 3:00, James AUSTIN wrote:
    > Morning folks
    >
    > I hope you are all well.
    >
    > Has anyone found a way of using Zotero with NVDA please? I have
    > installed the plugin for Word but am unable to access the dialogue
    > that appears. NVDA reports 'unknown'.
    >
    >
    > Thanks
    >
    > Best
    >
    > James
    >
    >
    >
    >









 


Re: Number pronunciation

 

Hi,

There is an active project to bring you that feature.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Doc Wright godfearer
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019 8:31 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Number pronunciation

 

Is there a way to get NVDA to say individual numbers instead of announcing them as words?

 

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Re: NVDA 2019.1 beta 1 available for testing

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

I only get it in outlook.

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To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2019.1 beta 1 available for testing

Now I don't get the dinging. I thought it was an issue with an add on?
Brian

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Sent: Monday, March 04, 2019 4:10 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2019.1 beta 1 available for testing


Hi, Quentin,



I just downloaded the beta version and it's working great for me. I do get
the dinging sound but other than that, it's working great for me.



Rosemarie







From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin
Christensen
Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2019 5:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2019.1 beta 1 available for testing



Original post at:
https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-1beta1-available-for-testing/




NVDA 2019.1beta1 available for testing




March 4, 2019 10:10 am

Beta1 of NVDA 2019.1 is now available for download and testing. For anyone
who is interested in trying out what NVDA 2019.1 has to offer before it is
officially released, we welcome you to download the beta and provide
feedback.

Highlights of this release include performance improvements when accessing
both Microsoft word and Excel, stability and security improvements such as
support for add-ons with version compatibility information, and many other
bug fixes.

Although we recommend always reading the full list of changes (linked
below), it is worth noting several important changes in regards to add-ons
and other custom code:

NVDA will no longer automatically load custom appModules, globalPlugins and
braille and synth drivers from the NVDA user configuration directory. This
code should be instead packaged as an add-on with correct version
information, ensuring that incompatible code is not run with current
versions of NVDA. For developers who need to test code as it is being
developed, enable NVDA’s developer scratchpad directory in the Advanced
category of NVDA settings, and place your code in the ‘scratchpad’ directory
found in the NVDA user configuration directory when this option is enabled.

Also, add-ons can now specify a minimum required NVDA version, and the last
tested NVDA version, in their manifest. If this version of NVDA is outside
of the specified range, NVDA will refuse to install or enable that
particular add-on. This version of NVDA will however still allow installing
and loading of add-ons that do not yet contain Minimum and Last Tested NVDA
version information at all, but upgrading to future versions of NVDA (E.g.
2019.2) may automatically cause these older add-ons to be disabled.



*
<https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/releases/2019.1beta1/nvda_2019.1beta1.exe>
Download NVDA 2019.1beta1

*
<https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/releases/2019.1beta1/nvda_2019.1beta1_changes.html>
What’s new in this release of NVDA

* Please report any issues
<https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues> on GitHub.

--

Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager



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Number pronunciation

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

Is there a way to get NVDA to say individual numbers instead of announcing them as words?

 

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