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Re: adding exceptions to the windows firewall in windows 10

 

It depends on what ports are the issues.

Usb ports can fail, if a system hasn't had a good restart or reformat in a while then that could be a problem.

Your first bet if you have a problem on 1 system is try to make it happen on another.

If you can't, then a reformat may fix it, and if that doesn't you have a broken port or ports so maybe a new board or a new system or whatever.

Driver and bios updates may fix things to.

However its usually unlikely that any blocked port especially online is ever a computer issue as such.

Most routers are isp ones and if you do have your won router and make sure its firmware is updated extenders, computers and tablets you do probably have an isp modem at least.

Your isp is responsible to manage it, so asking for a firmware upgrade push may fix this.

I had an issue at a client who got burgled last year, cameras should have worked but half of them didn't function most of them were new.

All of them had various things to do but still.

Well after trying on mutiple tablets both ios and droid and multiple windows laptops including my own laptop, it was decided to go from the top.

That would be, firstly testing lines, asking the isp then to the camera manufacturers, to checking the hardware we used, and probably eventually reformatting and reinstalling windows on all the computers, to replacing everything, to probably bashing head against a wooden serface in defeat.

The lines were fibre and were fine enough.

The cameras were designed to directly connect to the router and were not needing any special ports to open or anything.

After mentioning the issue to several people I got someone that did the security of the isp and he suggested an update to fix compatability with plug and play devices in the router firmware which he did.

All devices which had been having issues, the camera router, the cameras, the extenders, and everything did connect fine.

Once they were connected all cameras bitched about needing firmware updates for 5 hours straight but as far as I know all cameras have run successfully without trouble.

Due to all the hacking though isps don't like to open ports to anything.

If you have to open a port then its your own risk of course so is the fallout you have to pay if things go wrong for you.

In this case I was lucky.

I have had issues where the isp or company hasn't have anything wrong their end or refuses to acknowledge that there is actually anything wrong at all even though there probably was.

So I have had to go down the line trying to fix it myself, and eventually had to drop whatever it was.

Last year I had such an issue trying to update some older photo and dvd server software for various bits of the net, the software would install but brick the workstation it was on.

After working through trouble shooting and about 5 reformats to the mangled windows system, I have had to basically chuck a grands worth of what was really good software.

I have since replaced some of tit with some free software but still its one of those losses which is just hard to swallow, maybe I held on to that software for to long and hardware to so well thats life I guess.

On 4/03/2019 11:34 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
That is the same basic idea as windows 7 then. Occasionally you can find issues of blocked ports, but its not always windows fault. It can be the ISP or the router or both.
Brian

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Subject: Re: [nvda] adding exceptions to the windows firewall in windows 10


1. Press your windows key
2.  Type allow an app then press enter

2. Press alt+n to change settings
3. Press alt+r  to allow another app
4. Press alt+b to browse to the app you wish to add
When you find the executable for the app press enter on it.
5. Tab to add and enter.

Repeat 4 – 6 to add another app.

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From: Tony Ballou
Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2019 2:14 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] adding exceptions to the windows firewall in windows 10

Howdy folks,


Using windows 10 version 1803 on my desktop system. For some reason it
doesn't want version 1809. I have to create a couple of exceptions in
windows firewall so that two programs that I frequently use run
properly. I haven't had to do this in years. Has anybody done this
successfully, and could share with me the steps for how to do it. Thanks
a bunch.


Tony












Re: Reading subtitles in Netflix with NVDA

JM Casey
 

I don't really know anything about Netflix, and this might not be avilable for some of the new shows there, but it might well be for older ones and movies. I usually just find a file with an .srt extension on the internet, and download it to my braille display device. It's not the best arrangement as the subtitles don't move with the dialogue as they are supposed to, but it's not so bad once you get the hang of it; you just have to focus pretty hard. I'd much rather do this than listen to a synth or a human reading the subtitles, talking over the actual actors in the film!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mallard
Sent: March 4, 2019 2:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reading subtitles in Netflix with NVDA

Hello Gene,


Thanks.


I know how to get around Netflix in Android, although subtitles there aren't very usable.


A friend and I were trying to see them on computers, so I'll have a look
at the page you recommended.


I can find audiodescriptions without diffilulties. I'm currently
watching The Crown and Black Mirror, plus a couple of Italian series and
La Casa de Papel in Spanish, which I'd started watching last year, but
now I discovered audiodescriptions, and it's a great thing...


Ciao and thanks,

Ollie




Il 04/03/2019 20:41, hurrikennyandopo ... ha scritto:

Hi


I was lazy but this page will mostly cover what you want depending on
the device you use. It also has it for the computer if you use that.


The link to this page is https://help.netflix.com/en/node/372
<https://help.netflix.com/en/node/372>

They also do audio description a lot of people do not know that. Also
net flix works with the google mini or smart speakers from them with a
chrome cast.


When setup you use your voice to control it like play, resume rewind etc.


Gene nz


On 5/03/2019 4:16 AM, Mallard wrote:
Hello all,


Is it possible to read subtitles in Netflix with NVDA?


I found a great tutorial in Accessibility Central, but can't find any
reference to subtitles.


Thanks, stay well,


Ollie



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To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City
Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to
the following links. Software available
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start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers
https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/

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link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page
contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around
the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Best Javascript IDE to work with NVDA

Ryan Boudwin
 

Hey everyone,

I am learning Javascript; I am wondering which Javascript IDE works the best with NVDA right now. I'd like to learn one that I know is accessible.

Best regards,

Ryan



Re: Reading subtitles in Netflix with NVDA

Mallard
 

Hello Gene,


Thanks.


I know how to get around Netflix in Android, although subtitles there aren't very usable.


A friend and I were trying to see them on computers, so I'll have a look at the page you recommended.


I can find audiodescriptions without diffilulties. I'm currently watching The Crown and Black Mirror, plus a couple of Italian series and La Casa de Papel in Spanish, which I'd started watching last year, but now I discovered audiodescriptions, and it's a great thing...


Ciao and thanks,

Ollie

Il 04/03/2019 20:41, hurrikennyandopo ... ha scritto:

Hi


I was lazy but this page will mostly cover what you want depending on the device you use. It also has it for the computer if you use that.


The link to this page is https://help.netflix.com/en/node/372 <https://help.netflix.com/en/node/372>

They also do audio description a lot of people do not know that. Also net flix works with the google mini or smart speakers from them with a chrome cast.


When setup you use your voice to control it like play, resume rewind etc.


Gene nz


On 5/03/2019 4:16 AM, Mallard wrote:
Hello all,


Is it possible to read subtitles in Netflix with NVDA?


I found a great tutorial in Accessibility Central, but can't find any reference to subtitles.


Thanks, stay well,


Ollie



--
Image NVDA certified expert
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following linkhttp://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following linkhttp://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda

To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/

To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Reading subtitles in Netflix with NVDA

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


I was lazy but this page will mostly cover what you want depending on the device you use. It also has it for the computer if you use that.


The link to this page is https://help.netflix.com/en/node/372

They also do audio description a lot of people do not know that. Also net flix works with the google mini or smart speakers from them with a chrome cast.


When setup you use your voice to control it like play, resume rewind etc.


Gene nz


On 5/03/2019 4:16 AM, Mallard wrote:
Hello all,


Is it possible to read subtitles in Netflix with NVDA?


I found a great tutorial in Accessibility Central, but can't find any reference to subtitles.


Thanks, stay well,


Ollie




--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
 
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa).
To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
 

To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
 
To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: nvda addon for eurofly, a flight simulator from stefan kiss.

Iván Novegil
 

Why don’t you contact the developer? I think that should be a native functionality, not a specific NVDA add-on.

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El 4 mar 2019, a las 18:01, cisco <audiogamer2004@...> escribió:

hey all. Cisco talking. i wanted to ask you if someone was available to try and develop an add-on which will announce, when landing, the altitudes 1000, 500, 400, 300, 200, 100, 50, 40, 30, 20 and 10. i think that this may be done, hmm, detecting the altitude via the z key but with out affecting the user END.

i could provide the sounds, if you guys want.

if you want to try just private email me.

i am asking this because i don't know how to code in Pithon.

THANKS IN ADVANCE.


CISCO.






Re: Reading subtitles in Netflix with NVDA

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


when it was written it was more for the visually impaired person. I do know they do sub titles on alot of there shows. I could have a sus for you and get back on what to do. I know with audio description it could be done through the player and i think the settings but may depend if you are doing it on a phone or computer.


Gene nz


On 5/03/2019 4:16 AM, Mallard wrote:
Hello all,


Is it possible to read subtitles in Netflix with NVDA?


I found a great tutorial in Accessibility Central, but can't find any reference to subtitles.


Thanks, stay well,


Ollie




--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
 
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa).
To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
 

To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
 
To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: NVDA the miracle of modern assistive technology

Lino Morales
 

I think I’m going to subscribe to NVDA Chat. If this subject hasn’t been moved to their yet I’ll comment their. Now back to NVDA already in progress.

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Sky Mundell <skyt@...>
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019 12:00:03 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA the miracle of modern assistive technology
 

Yup. Doug Geoffray and Jeremy curry from what used to be GW Micro are now working at Microsoft now and both of them, along with Jeff bishop, Matt Campbell from Serotek are making Narrator a superb product. I think Narrator is going to have scripting support eventually enabling it to work with proprietary applications.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Sunday, March 03, 2019 8:21 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA the miracle of modern assistive technology

 

You forgot narrator, it's an upcoming screen reader but it to me deserves a place in the standing tall category.

On 3 Mar 2019, at 18:37, Pascal Lambert wrote:

Thank you. Eloquently stated. Ditto.
Blessings
Pascal

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Jaffar Sidek
Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2019 9:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA the miracle of modern assistive technology

Hi all. In 2006, when Michael Currant conceived the idea of developing an open source screen reader to neutralize the high cost of commercial screen readers, and when he and James Teh founded NVAccess, The feeling going around was that sooner or later, this upstart in the screen reader industry would shortly be gobbled up by the more recognized players. Well, Window eyes has gone down the proverbial plug hole. SaraTech and Dolphin has gone almost quiet, and the two left standing proud and tall in the boxing ring is JFW and NVDA. These are the facts, not mere conjecture, and the facts are clear enough to see. Why am I writing this? Financial reward is a big factor in motivating a company to work towards improving a product. However, the demand for immediate rewards can also lead to a product being rushed out in the hope that it will satisfy the needs of the customers as well as filling up the company's coffers. But hope is one thing, delivery is another vital factor. I do not have to revise the recent debacle experienced by the end users of Windows 1809. Jaws is now into it's 2019 version. Yet their new driver is not as stable as it should be and there are complains about it from users and Jaws scripters alike.

And what about NVDA? O yes! NVDA does have it's quirks, No software can avoid that. But there is an almost daily alpha version released that tries to fix reported issues. Then we must not leave out a dedicated community of users who do their very best to help in the form of advise and tutorials, some even dedicating part of their website to put up materials for reference for those who need them. And then there are those from the community who help with NVDA's development, Translators who help translate NVDA itself and it's numerous addons into the many languages, and the addon developers who develop addons that make NVDA more than just a mere screen reader, All these done in their own spare time and without the apparent rewards in dollars. Which reminds me, Is there a clock addon for JFW? Which brings me back to motivation. I did earlier allude to the fact that monetary reward is a big incentive. But you know, humanity can be a bigger incentive than finance. For most blind people, and especially for those living in the poorer countries, just getting a working computer makes a dent in their pockets. Add the cost of a screen reader and the dent could be astronomical. NVDA has provided us from rich and poor regions of the world with another alternative, and that in itself is a modern miracle. And, most important, NVDA, as I said earlier is not just a mere screen reader. It goes way beyond basic screen reading tasks like browsing the web or checking emails or formatting documents. It works seemlessly with programming IDES like visual Studio, and Android Studio, just to name a few, and then musicians use it in association with DAWS like Reaper to make music as a hobby or as a profession, and broadcasters benefit from addons developed for Station playlist studio. I use both Jaws and NVDA, and I had to pay almost 2000 Singapore dollars to get my new version of Jaws. And after all that, I had to pay for some scripts by independent Jaws Scripters to make jaws work with some applications. NVDA is open source and free, it's addons are free, and therein lies the difference.

How then can a thread about NVDA dying be ever posted is way beyond my understanding. Negative posts like this are rather disturbing because it could put a huge dent into the efforts of all concerned with NVDA's development. And one must not forget the extraneous update routines put out by Microsoft which not only affects NVDA but JFW as well. Pardon this long and rambling email, but I felt that I had to pen my thoughts onto paper, as it were, just to remind ourselves that we do owe these people dedicated to ever improving NVDA a huge debt, and to remind us all that as long as this great effort continues, NVDA will be far from dying a slow death or disappearing into the ether. To me, NVDA is, and always will be a modern miracle. Cheers!






Re: nvda addon for eurofly, a flight simulator from stefan kiss.

cisco
 

i know, but airspeed can be checked by pressing r.

i need that little feature because i want eurofly to be a little more realistic.

On 3/4/2019 6:41 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
It really depends on whether those numbers exist as numbers in an accessible way. However there is more to landing a plane than altitude, airspeed is rather important as well!
Brian

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Sent: Monday, March 04, 2019 5:01 PM
Subject: [nvda] nvda addon for eurofly, a flight simulator from stefan kiss.


hey all. Cisco talking. i wanted to ask you if someone was available to try and develop an add-on which will announce, when landing, the altitudes 1000, 500, 400, 300, 200, 100, 50, 40, 30, 20 and 10. i think that this may be done, hmm, detecting the altitude via the z key but with out affecting the user END.

i could provide the sounds, if you guys want.

if you want to try just private email me.

i am asking this because i don't know how to code in Pithon.

THANKS IN ADVANCE.


CISCO.





Re: Joseph Lee's add-ons and NVDA 2019.1: supported add-ons are compatible

 


Em 04/03/2019 16:17, Brian Vogel escreveu:
And, in the end, you only should do so much.  Everyone is entitled to "have a life" and preferably one where one's health, be it physical, mental, or both is not sacrificed in an effort to serve or please others.  It is not selfish to take care of oneself, first, so that one can continue taking care of whatever and whoever else one chooses to.  It's essential, in fact.
Very well said. BRAVO!

Cheers,


Re: Joseph Lee's add-ons and NVDA 2019.1: supported add-ons are compatible

 

On Mon, Mar 4, 2019 at 12:39 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
you can only do so much.
And, in the end, you only should do so much.  Everyone is entitled to "have a life" and preferably one where one's health, be it physical, mental, or both is not sacrificed in an effort to serve or please others.  It is not selfish to take care of oneself, first, so that one can continue taking care of whatever and whoever else one chooses to.  It's essential, in fact.
 
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Re: Joseph Lee's add-ons and NVDA 2019.1: supported add-ons are compatible

Pascal Lambert <coccinelle86@...>
 

A wise decision, take care of yourself and thanks for your contributions to the NVDA community.

Best of luck and God bless.

Pascal

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019 11:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Joseph Lee's add-ons and NVDA 2019.1: supported add-ons are compatible

 

Hi all,

Also, I’m taking a break from everything that has to do with NVDA for a few weeks so I can get my health back. After a busy weekend and doing some internal translations work, it has become clear to me that I have sort of reached the limit as to how many things I can do at once. Thus, in order to concentrate on things outside of NVDA, I’m suspending all work related to NVDA, including add-on releases and development, code contribution and what not (for translators: I have resigned from translation work, but did say I’ll help out with 2019.1 translations).

In case folks would like to reach me online, emails will work. For those wishing to (finally) meet me offline, although I won’t be going to CSUN conference due to scheduling conflicts, I’ll be going to a national speech tournament in April to be held at Santa Ana, California.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019 8:19 AM
To: 'NVDA screen reader development' <nvda-devel@...>
Subject: [nvda] Joseph Lee's add-ons and NVDA 2019.1: supported add-ons are compatible

 

Hi everyone,

 

As agreed to between add-on authors a few weeks ago (announcing compatibility statements between beta 1 and official release), I’d like to let folks know that supported add-ons coming from me are compatible with NVDA 2019.1. Supported add-ons include:

 

  • Add-on Updater
  • Easy Table Navigator
  • Enhanced Touch Gestures
  • Golden Cursor (maintenance only)
  • GoldWave
  • ObjPad
  • Object Location Tones
  • Resource Monitor
  • Screen Curtain (experimental)
  • StationPlaylist Studio
  • SystrayList
  • Virtual Review
  • Windows 10 App Essentials

 

Important notices regarding some of these:

 

  • Add-on Updater: 30 days after release of NVDA 2019.1, support for 2018.4 will be dropped from this add-on.
  • StationPlaylist Studio: for people using 18.09.x-LTS, after release of 18.09.8 in April, 18.09.x will enter bug fix only mode. Also, for those using stable releases, version 19.06 and later will require Studio 5.20 and later.
  • Windows 10 App Essentials: 30 days after release of NVDA 2019.1, support for 2018.3 will be dropped from this add-on as for add-on maintenance policy (supporting current and immediate past releases).

 

For add-ons dropping support for older NVDA releases:

 

  1. Although I did say 30 days, the schedule is a bit flexible, and I’ll let you know when support for older NVDA releases ends.
  2. For people using Add-on Updater (or for that matter, NVDA 2019.1 beta 1 and later), ending support for old NVDA releases means add-on manifest will be edited to reflect this change.

 

Lastly, although not stated in the subject line, once Python 3 version of NVDA ships, most (if not all) add-ons maintained by me will require that version of NVDA at some point in the future. To help out with transitions, I’ll give you a grace period where you can evaluate that future version of NVDA. Once the grace period closes, there’s no going back.

 

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: Off Topic Kindle windows app

Danni
 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2019 10:09 AM
Subject: [nvda] Off Topic Kindle windows app

Email me off list at ampbeast@...

I use a mix of nvda and full screen magnification to read mail in thunderbird.

Kindle reading app for windows 7.

Is there anyway to show you your position of reading as it reads out loud.


Regards Adrian Pocock.


Re: Off Topic Thunderbird reading messages view

 

Em 04/03/2019 14:59, ADRIAN POCOCK escreveu:
Also is there a way of having more than one filter applied to the sorting order of emails in inbox.
To my knowledge, one can have as many filters as one needs. You just need to pay attention on the filters' order, because they will run according with what you have done first.

Lastly does anyone know of any add-on to move all messages from one subject as in the threads to create one combined email.

You don't need an add-on to do it, not really. On the "order by" (or something like that) menu, you'll find an option to group the messages on a certain subject in only one thread.

Sorry, I believe I couldn't help as much as I'd like, but I hope you find at least one thing that I just wrote useful for answering your questions.

Cheers,
Marcio


Re: NVDA and Zotero

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

Ok, so what is it?

On Mon, 4 Mar 2019, Antony Stone wrote:

Why do people ask questions like this instead of just looking things up for
themselves? It's quicker, more informative, and keeps the list tidier.

For example, I also didn't know what Zotero was, so I typed "Zotero" into my
Google search bar.

The first result was https://www.zotero.org/

The second result was https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Zotero

That was quick, simple and informative.

Regards,


Antony.


On Monday 04 March 2019 at 17:37:54, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote:

Sally, may I ask what is Zotero?
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Off Topic Kindle windows app

ADRIAN POCOCK
 

Email me off list at ampbeast@...

I use a mix of nvda and full screen magnification to read mail in thunderbird.

Kindle reading app for windows 7.

Is there anyway to show you your position of reading as it reads out loud.


Regards Adrian Pocock.


Re: Draft view in Microsoft word.

Jonathan COHN
 

This might be available in the advanced settings of Word. Try the alt-d shortcut once you have the advanced settings open. I am not positive this forces draft mode, but my guess is that it does.

 

Jonathan

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Robert Kingett
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2019 7:12 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Draft view in Microsoft word.
Importance: Low

 

Per a few other blind writers, and the suggestion in the what's new for the beta, I tried draft view in MS word 2016, Office 365, and it is, in fact, much speedier to edit documents and otherwise, but the problem I keep running into is getting word to open in draft view, rather than print layout view.

 

I've tried editing the Normal template directly by opening it through Microsoft word, making changes to it, adding header text, doing all the writer requirement things for literary markets, switching the view to draft view after making all the changes, then, saving by hitting CTRL S, but upon opening a new, blank, document, the view defaults to print layout view. Does anyone know of another way to always open in draft view?

 

I've also tried opening the normal template through Microsoft word, then, immediately switching the view to draft view, then making formatting changes, then saving the template, but it still opens to print layout view.


Re: backing up thunderbird

Arlene
 

At would be nice but the old computer is totally and completely gone! It’s right gone!   Thanks for future use if I need this!  The guy at the sorrce said that old windows system was dying anyway!  I even said scrub it out and put a generic win 7 an see if it will work. He said not worth it.  I told them to recycle it.  So now it’s right right right gone!  No getting it back just for  a ten dollar sound card!  I tell you it’s right right right Gone!  That computer is so old it probably wont even handle a cheep ten dollar sound card!  Here’s to my old win 7 box, to Quat Death on 2 legs Lyrics. “Now you can kiss my but goodbye”

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: March 4, 2019 12:04 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] backing up thunderbird

 

I havn't had ports burn out though I had a ram slot do that once.

Now, atguys.com has a cheap sound card for 10 bucks if you care.

 

 

On 4/03/2019 1:24 PM, Arlene wrote:

I could have done so. But here is the thing! If I did wait for a cheep usb sound card. I would have gotten it in the middle of March.  I’m taking a food safe class.  I got another extension until the end of March.  The guy at the source store said it would not be worth it.  When he was moving documents from my old computer He discovered that I had 3 or 4 ports burned out!  He tried putting speakers into all my usb ports and he found 3 or 4 of them burned out.  He and the people I live with My room mate and her family said just take the new computer and let the old one go.  I didn’t want to but it was time for it to go! I let the source store recycle the old win 7. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: March 1, 2019 4:57 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] backing up thunderbird

 

I would suggest getting a cheap perhaps ten or fifteen U.S. dollar sound card and seeing if you can use the old computer with it.  its good to have another computer available and I always have at least two functioning computers available.  I recall you lost sound but that may mean your built-in sound card is no longer working.  All it may need is a USB sound card to get audio back.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

 

From: Arlene

Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2019 10:27 PM

Subject: Re: backing up thunderbirdRe: [nvda] POP is unwise [was: Being Unsubscribed for Marking Messages as Spam #adminnotice]

 

Hey list! Arlene here; I'm writing to you on this new win ten laptop.
My win 7 box bit the dust! I lost all sound. A sighted person can
operate it.  But I could not. I just got this computer on Tuesday.
One question I want to ask. Can I put Gmail onto Thunderbird? If so,
How can I do it? Thanks! Have a good night!

On 2/28/19, Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@...> wrote:
> Hi Annette,
>
>
> As far as I can tell, everything is saved. I just updated a day ago and
> when I opened the back up version of Thunderbird on my back up system,
> the address book, the folder structure (I have 17 sub folders under
> Inbox) the layout and even the order of message selection was saved.
>
>
> On 2/28/2019 4:07 PM, Annette Moore wrote:
>>
>> ron, does this save all of your configuration, as well as your
>> messages? I care more about the configuration than about actually
>> keeping any of my messages because it took about an hour for me to get
>> everything I wanted/needed configured to the way I needed it sinceI
>> have three email accounts. I have the instructions saved that Richard
>> Wels gave me, but shoot, if I could back all that up and not have to
>> go through that again with any clean install of thunderbird on a
>> future new computer, that would be great!
>>
>> Annette
>>
>> On 2/28/2019 1:13 PM, Ron Canazzi wrote:
>>>
>>> Hi Group,
>>>
>>>
>>> This probably varies from mail program to mail program, but when
>>> using Thunderbird, you can back up almost everything by doing the
>>> following.
>>>
>>>
>>> 1.  Close Thunderbird.
>>>
>>> 2.  From the run dialogue, type %appdata% and press enter.
>>>
>>> 3.  You are in the roaming folder.  This folder contains all the
>>> application data, settings, address book and e-mails from Thunderbird.
>>>
>>> 4.  navigate to the folder named Thunderbird and when highlighted,
>>> press control + C to copy that folder.
>>>
>>> 5.  Then paste this folder onto a thumb drive, external hard drive or
>>> some similar device and you have everything backed up.
>>>
>>> 6.  Now if for some reason, you need a fresh install of Thunderbird
>>> or if you get a new computer and use Thunderbird, you can simply
>>> install Thunderbird and navigate to the Roaming folder as described
>>> in steps 1 through 3 above and paste the contents of the Thunderbird
>>> folder that you have copied into the Roaming folder.
>>>
>>>
>>> I do this every few days to keep the mail and settings of Thunderbird
>>> backed up.
>>>
>>>
>>> On 2/28/2019 1:14 PM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:
>>>> 100% agreed. Very, very well said, indeed.
>>>>
>>>> Now I definitely would like to know how I can backup my messages. I
>>>> never did it before just because I never knew it was even possible.
>>>> Help me with this, please?
>>>>
>>>> Cheers,
>>>> Marcio
>>>> Follow or add me on Facebook <https://facebook.com/firirinfonfon>
>>>>
>>>> Em 28/02/2019 15:09, Travis Siegel escreveu:
>>>>>
>>>>> Wishing something would go away because it doesn't fit your
>>>>> definition of what is useful is just plain silly.
>>>>>
>>>>> If that were the case, then I wish narrator would go away, I whish
>>>>> jaws wold go away, I wish windows would go away.  Hell, I wish
>>>>> microsoft would go away.
>>>>>
>>>>> \See, it serves no purpose.
>>>>>
>>>>> There are people who use pop3, and it works just fine for them.
>>>>> There are definitely use cases where pop3 is a better fit than
>>>>> imap, and there are use cases where imap is clearly the better
>>>>> alternative.  Wishing one or the other would go away is just
>>>>> ignorance talking.
>>>>>
>>>>> If you don't wish to use it, then don't, but that doesn't mean that
>>>>> others who are fully aware of what they're getting, and do wish to
>>>>> use it shouldn't do so.  I for one much prefer pop3, for several
>>>>> reasons, including disk usage, security, issues, ease of backup,
>>>>> and others.
>>>>>
>>>>> When folks talk about folks loosing years worth of emails because
>>>>> they used pop3, my question is did those folks ever backup their
>>>>> mail? I'm thinking no.  Sure, it's not the easiest thing to move
>>>>> mail from one email client to another, but you're just as likely to
>>>>> loose all your imap messages if your email provider goes bye-bye as
>>>>> well, and nobody here can tell me that's never happened.
>>>>>
>>>>> It's six of one, and half dozen of the other, use what works for
>>>>> you, and allow others to use what works for them.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/28/2019 12:47 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> With my old internet provider, I had a pop 3 account. After I got
>>>>>> to a certain amount of messages, my email started bouncing. I
>>>>>> don't think people are using pop so much anymore but I could be
>>>>>> wrong. I wish pop 3 would go away too.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> *From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf
>>>>>> Of *Sarah k Alawami
>>>>>> *Sent:* Thursday, February 28, 2019 8:27 AM
>>>>>> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
>>>>>> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] POP is unwise [was: Being Unsubscribed for
>>>>>> Marking Messages as Spam #adminnotice]
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yes you can. I have about 200 thousand messages on gmail's server
>>>>>> and it doesn't really complain at me. You can also clean them up
>>>>>> using iMap as well. I use iMap and wish that pop 3 would just go
>>>>>> away and die. All the email and attachments are backed up in the
>>>>>> cloud and no matter what device as stated you are on you can
>>>>>> always get your mail. I lost over 3 years worth of messages once
>>>>>> so am not going back to pop3.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 28 Feb 2019, at 7:49, Gene wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     I don't use IMAP so others can answer the question.  But I'm
>>>>>>     sure you can delete messages if you wish. As I understand it,
>>>>>>     you can keep a large number on the server if you wish.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Gene
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     *From:*marcio via Groups.Io
>>>>>>     <mailto:marcinhorj21@...>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     *Sent:*Thursday, February 28, 2019 9:37 AM
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     *To:*nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     *Subject:*Re: [nvda] POP is unwise [was: Being Unsubscribed
>>>>>>     for Marking Messages as Spam #adminnotice]
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Em 28/02/2019 12:34, Gene escreveu:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>         unless you want a permanent collection of all your
>>>>>>         received messages off site.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Does it means that using IMAP I won't be able to delete any
>>>>>>     message?
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Cheers,
>>>>>>
>>>>>>     Marcio
>>>>>>     Follow or add me on Facebook <https://facebook.com/firirinfonfon>
>>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=icon>
>>>>>
>>>>> Virus-free. www.avast.com
>>>>> <https://www.avast.com/sig-email?utm_medium=email&utm_source=link&utm_campaign=sig-email&utm_content=emailclient&utm_term=link>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> <#DAB4FAD8-2DD7-40BB-A1B8-4E2AA1F9FDF2>
>>>>
>>> --
>>> They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
>>> They ask: "How Happy are You?"
>>> I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
>>
>
> --
> They Ask Me If I'm Happy; I say Yes.
> They ask: "How Happy are You?"
> I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
>
>
>
>
>


 

 


Off Topic Thunderbird reading messages view

ADRIAN POCOCK
 

Email me off list at ampbeast@...

I use a mix of nvda and full screen magnification to read mail in thunderbird.


I noticed that there is no text cursor to follow where i am whilst nvda reads the message.

Is this normal and if so is there a way to do it apart from editing the original message.

Also is there a way of having more than one filter applied to the sorting order of emails in inbox.

Lastly does anyone know of any add-on to move all messages from one subject as in the threads to create one combined email.

I know i have asked a lot, but if anyone knows anything that would help me out a lot.

Regards Adrian Pocock.


Re: NVDA 2019.1 beta 1 available for testing

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

You should only hear it when starting up outlook, right?

Cheers,
Ralf

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Montag, 4. März 2019 17:36
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2019.1 beta 1 available for testing

I only get it in outlook.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Monday, March 4, 2019 2:39 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2019.1 beta 1 available for testing

Now I don't get the dinging. I thought it was an issue with an add on?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Rosemarie Chavarria" <knitqueen2007@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 04, 2019 4:10 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA 2019.1 beta 1 available for testing


Hi, Quentin,



I just downloaded the beta version and it's working great for me. I do get
the dinging sound but other than that, it's working great for me.



Rosemarie







From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin
Christensen
Sent: Sunday, March 3, 2019 5:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA 2019.1 beta 1 available for testing



Original post at:
https://www.nvaccess.org/post/nvda-2019-1beta1-available-for-testing/




NVDA 2019.1beta1 available for testing




March 4, 2019 10:10 am

Beta1 of NVDA 2019.1 is now available for download and testing. For anyone
who is interested in trying out what NVDA 2019.1 has to offer before it is
officially released, we welcome you to download the beta and provide
feedback.

Highlights of this release include performance improvements when accessing
both Microsoft word and Excel, stability and security improvements such as
support for add-ons with version compatibility information, and many other
bug fixes.

Although we recommend always reading the full list of changes (linked
below), it is worth noting several important changes in regards to add-ons
and other custom code:

NVDA will no longer automatically load custom appModules, globalPlugins and
braille and synth drivers from the NVDA user configuration directory. This
code should be instead packaged as an add-on with correct version
information, ensuring that incompatible code is not run with current
versions of NVDA. For developers who need to test code as it is being
developed, enable NVDA’s developer scratchpad directory in the Advanced
category of NVDA settings, and place your code in the ‘scratchpad’ directory
found in the NVDA user configuration directory when this option is enabled.

Also, add-ons can now specify a minimum required NVDA version, and the last
tested NVDA version, in their manifest. If this version of NVDA is outside
of the specified range, NVDA will refuse to install or enable that
particular add-on. This version of NVDA will however still allow installing
and loading of add-ons that do not yet contain Minimum and Last Tested NVDA
version information at all, but upgrading to future versions of NVDA (E.g.
2019.2) may automatically cause these older add-ons to be disabled.



*
<https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/releases/2019.1beta1/nvda_2019.1beta1.exe>
Download NVDA 2019.1beta1

*
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What’s new in this release of NVDA

* Please report any issues
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