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Re: Threaded emails view in Outlook
Brian's Mail list account
That is one of the reasons I never used Outlook. Not sure what that is about.
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From: "Governor staten" <govsta@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2019 6:18 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Threaded emails view in Outlook While we're at it, I press enter on an email in Outlook, and it doesn't immediately open. I have to press enter twice. -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Tony Malykh Sent: Saturday, March 9, 2019 12:48 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] Threaded emails view in Outlook Hello all and especially Brian Vogel, I was trying to use Outlook with Threaded list of emails view. Brian Vogel gave me advice that I should navigate through this list using Control+Up and Down arrows to prevent the threads from autoexpanding. That works at first glance, but here is the problem I ran into. Supposed I am initially at the very first email in the list. I press Control+Down a few times until I find the right email that I want to open. Suppose that's just a single email, not a thread. However, when I press Enter on it, Outlook would open the very first email in the list, not the one that I selected using Control+Down arrow. It feels like there are two types of cursors there and Control+Down is moving the wrong type. So how to open the right email? Is there perhaps a keystroke to sync these two cursors? I was trying to do it naive way - Once I'm on the right email with Control+Down, I would try to press up and then down, but then again, because the threads are autoexpanding on me, pressing up and then down doesn't necessarily bring you to the same email. Do you have any other suggestions? Thanks Tony
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Re: NVDA questions
Brian's Mail list account
Does it also not mean that any computer you use must have had the Eloquence voice installed for use with external programs though?
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I do not understand the phonetics bit, but it has been asked here before so maybe a search through the archives might bring something up. Brian bglists@... Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Claire Potter" <claire.potter99@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2019 4:35 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA questions Hi Teri, I can't answer your first question unfortunately, but for your second one, the answer is yes. You can run Eloquence on NVDA portable, just make sure that when you're making the portable copy you check the box to copy user configurations, that's what I do and it works for me. Claire Potter Potter's place, where technology comes to life! www.pottersplace.me.uk NVDA Certified Expert 2019. On 9 Mar 2019, at 06:13, Teri McElroy <shimzin.lists@...> wrote:
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Re: can't select list item in schrome with nvda 2019.1 beta
Alexandre,
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I'm not quite understanding what it's about. I mean, I went to the site, filled in the form with my email, alright, nothing wrong, weird or whatever at this point. However it's after this step that things become odd. After activating the "próxima" button, I find myself into a page with a few links, a edit field and a submenu (or so NVDA calls it). Well I just don't know what to do at this point. Have you ever tried this site with another browser to see if there is any different behavior other than this one? Em 10/03/2019 06:58, Alexandre Alves
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Re: nvda on and off short cut.
Brian's Mail list account
Well if you go to profiles and read the bit in the manual about them it is really easy to do. If I try to explain it, I'll make a hash of it, but for example you can set any of the preferences inn the preferences sheets specifically for the application which is running, ie in the foreground when you are doing the settings and use a nicely descriptive name for this in the profiles dialogue. This is why profiles is not part of the preferences part of nvda.
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From: "DAVID" <davidlacaille2@...> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Saturday, March 09, 2019 1:35 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda on and off short cut. Hi and how do you do that.
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can't select list item in schrome with nvda 2019.1 beta
Alexandre Alves Toco
Hello! The link below opens a google form. It is in portuguese. In the first step you have to fill the e-mail and tab to the “próximo button”. The second step opens a list and the user is required to select one item. In nvda 2018.4.1., the focused item is selected by default. Nvda 2019.1 beta says that the item is unselected. I tried to press spacebar to select the item but schrome closed. I also tried to join the mouse to the navigator object and click it. But it didn’t work eather. https://sites.google.com/site/secretariapiloto188cvv/diarioplantao
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Re: bread crumb
No it is not. It is a way for you to keep track of where you were and what path you too to get there like the bread crumbs Hanzel and grettle used to find their way hrough a forest.
On 9 Mar 2019, at 18:39, Monte Single wrote:
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Re: bread crumb
Arlene
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From: Monte Single
Sent: March 9, 2019 9:00 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] bread crumb
Yes, Mario sent a link explaining breadcrumbs as being part of web page navigation and not a feature of nvda. I checked the cela website An hour ago and it is still virtualy l useless to me. So, things can only improve; the question is, when? From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Hi there: I’m not sure if that’s a feature with NVDA or not. I seen this with my win 7 before. I thought it was the site. Yes Cela is under construction. I’ve been busy with an online course. I haven’t been on the cela site since January. Or early February. During that time, my win 7 bit the dust. I now have a win ten box. I now use Chrome as a default browser. I’ll try Cela using it. I find Chrome preforms faster then IE and firefox.
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Using win 7 with nvda and firefox.
Currently, well for the last two weeks, the CELA library here in Canada has been undergoin y a major makeover along with a bookshare merge. Most of it seems pretty haywire; when I do a search I think I am getting just bookshare results. The CELA help people tell me they are working on it. When I do a search, I am getting something I have never heard before. After I press the search button and press h for heading a couple of times, I hear;
“bread crumb navigation”
Is this a NVDA feature? Thanks, Monte
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Re: bread crumb
Monte Single
Yes, Mario sent a link explaining breadcrumbs as being part of web page navigation and not a feature of nvda. I checked the cela website An hour ago and it is still virtualy l useless to me. So, things can only improve; the question is, when?
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: March-09-19 10:45 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] bread crumb
Hi there: I’m not sure if that’s a feature with NVDA or not. I seen this with my win 7 before. I thought it was the site. Yes Cela is under construction. I’ve been busy with an online course. I haven’t been on the cela site since January. Or early February. During that time, my win 7 bit the dust. I now have a win ten box. I now use Chrome as a default browser. I’ll try Cela using it. I find Chrome preforms faster then IE and firefox.
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From: Monte Single
Using win 7 with nvda and firefox.
Currently, well for the last two weeks, the CELA library here in Canada has been undergoin y a major makeover along with a bookshare merge. Most of it seems pretty haywire; when I do a search I think I am getting just bookshare results. The CELA help people tell me they are working on it. When I do a search, I am getting something I have never heard before. After I press the search button and press h for heading a couple of times, I hear;
“bread crumb navigation”
Is this a NVDA feature? Thanks, Monte
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Re: bread crumb
Arlene
Hi there: I’m not sure if that’s a feature with NVDA or not. I seen this with my win 7 before. I thought it was the site. Yes Cela is under construction. I’ve been busy with an online course. I haven’t been on the cela site since January. Or early February. During that time, my win 7 bit the dust. I now have a win ten box. I now use Chrome as a default browser. I’ll try Cela using it. I find Chrome preforms faster then IE and firefox.
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From: Monte Single
Sent: March 9, 2019 6:39 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] bread crumb
Using win 7 with nvda and firefox.
Currently, well for the last two weeks, the CELA library here in Canada has been undergoin y a major makeover along with a bookshare merge. Most of it seems pretty haywire; when I do a search I think I am getting just bookshare results. The CELA help people tell me they are working on it. When I do a search, I am getting something I have never heard before. After I press the search button and press h for heading a couple of times, I hear;
“bread crumb navigation”
Is this a NVDA feature? Thanks, Monte
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Re: Firefox and Extensions' section
Oops, my bad. Indeed, I meant 66 :)
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Em 09/03/2019 05:26, Brian's Mail list
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It is supposed to be back ported to 66 according to how I interpret it.
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Re: NVDA questions
Hi,
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I just saw this email since I was catching up with all of the emails I got today. Although this email has been sent quite earlier, it seems there wasn't any answer. I'm making it come up again hoping someone could help this time. So, anyone, please? :) Em 09/03/2019 03:13, Teri McElroy
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bread crumb
Monte Single
Using win 7 with nvda and firefox.
Currently, well for the last two weeks, the CELA library here in Canada has been undergoin y a major makeover along with a bookshare merge. Most of it seems pretty haywire; when I do a search I think I am getting just bookshare results. The CELA help people tell me they are working on it. When I do a search, I am getting something I have never heard before. After I press the search button and press h for heading a couple of times, I hear;
“bread crumb navigation”
Is this a NVDA feature? Thanks, Monte
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NV Access at CSUN
Quentin Christensen
Hi everyone, We're away at the CSUN conference in Anaheim, California for the next week. If anyone is going, we're presenting and would love to see you: Title: NVDA: Updates, new features and the 2019 Outlook Date: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 Time: 9:00 AM Location: Grand Ballroom G&H Otherwise, I'll be back in a week and a bit to catch up on the group. Regards Quentin. -- Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess
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Re: Threaded emails view in Outlook
Tony Malykh
This is exactly what I was looking for, it works! Thanks for the tip!
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On 3/9/2019 10:13 AM, Rui Fontes wrote:
Have you tried to press spacebar to select the message?
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Re: Threaded emails view in Outlook
Tony Malykh
Brian, I have View ribbon > show messages as conversations > Conversation Settings > Always expand selected conversation unchecked, yet Outlook still keeps autoexpanding conversations. Am I doing something wrong? As a result Up arrow / Down arrow trick doesn't work for me.
On 3/9/2019 11:21 AM, Brian Vogel
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Re: Threaded emails view in Outlook
Jason White
You can turn off the auto-expansion of threads in the mail options of Outlook.
I find threaded view easier to use in Outlook for Mac. I know that doesn't help NVDA users though, but in case any of you have a Mac and an Office 365 subscription, it's worth trying. On 3/9/19, 12:48, "Tony Malykh" <nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of anton.malykh@...> wrote: Hello all and especially Brian Vogel, I was trying to use Outlook with Threaded list of emails view. Brian Vogel gave me advice that I should navigate through this list using Control+Up and Down arrows to prevent the threads from autoexpanding. That works at first glance, but here is the problem I ran into. Supposed I am initially at the very first email in the list. I press Control+Down a few times until I find the right email that I want to open. Suppose that's just a single email, not a thread. However, when I press Enter on it, Outlook would open the very first email in the list, not the one that I selected using Control+Down arrow. It feels like there are two types of cursors there and Control+Down is moving the wrong type. So how to open the right email? Is there perhaps a keystroke to sync these two cursors? I was trying to do it naive way - Once I'm on the right email with Control+Down, I would try to press up and then down, but then again, because the threads are autoexpanding on me, pressing up and then down doesn't necessarily bring you to the same email. Do you have any other suggestions? Thanks Tony
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Re: Accessible Lightweight PDF Viewers
Jason White
I've experienced good results from the PDF viewer included in Google Chrome (both under Windows and Mac). I haven't run Adobe Reader for quite a while now, as Chrome tends to give as good, if not better, presentation of many of the PDF files that I read. The rest are images that require OCR in any case.
On 3/7/19, 15:27, "Bhavya shah" <nvda@nvda.groups.io on behalf of bhavya.shah125@...> wrote: Dear all, I currently have a 144 mb file that is one of my Physics textbooks. From the file size, it is easy to infer the massiveness of this document. Hence, opening it in Adobe Acrobat DC is not always practical as it takes an infeasible amount of time to load all pages. Hence, I am in need of some alternate accessible PDF viewing solution which is relatively lightweight and is likely to be substantially quicker in loading a large PDF for viewership. Alternatively, another approach towards addressing my needs that I can think of is to split this huge PDF into a bunch of different PDFs which individually are smaller files and thus likely to be faster to open. In case you are aware of some tool to split a large PDF file into a few smaller ones, I would appreciate if you could share those as well. I am open to using both of the above approaches simultaneously for maximally mitigating the current problem as well, if need be. Thanks. -- Best Regards Bhavya Shah Blogger at Hiking Across Horizons: https://bhavyashah125.wordpress.com/ Contacting Me E-mail Address: bhavya.shah125@... LinkedIn: https://www.linkedin.com/in/bhavyashah125/ Twitter: @BhavyaShah125 Skype: bhavya.09
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Re: Ad blocker for NVDA and Firefox?
Ian Blackburn
Sounds like a good idea however the malicious software could then click the shortcut key and turn off your ad blocker and put the advertisement in the webpage
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On 10 Mar 2019, at 4:31 am, JM Casey <jmcasey@...> wrote:
Brian, that makes sense; I thought it must be something like that, I was just leary of using the term “power button” without any sort of context for what that meant.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
On Sat, Mar 9, 2019 at 03:41 AM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
Then you would be well advised to contact the developer of your favorite ad-blocker asking for same. Over the years that's how a number of features came to be. Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep. ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back
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Re: Accessible Lightweight PDF Viewers
Bhavya,
I'll try to cover both bases. The first is a utility for splitting or merging PDF files. I absolutely love PDF Split and Merge, more commonly called PDF Sam, which is free and open source. I have used the Basic version for both purposes. I cannot speak to how accessible it is, but even if it were 100% accessible if you can get a sighted assistant to find the actual PDF pages where your chapters would need to be split out and to enter those quickly it will save you a lot of time. I have also repeatedly posted about Tracker Software's PDF-XChange Viewer, which, while not 100% accessible (or even close, really), it has top notch OCR capabilities that are accessible in multiple languages and where, after OCRing the PDF file, you can just save the text layer integrated with the PDF itself, so it can be opened in Adobe Reader or the reader of your choice and never need to be OCRed again. Even though they list this as discontinued, it is only further product enhancement that has been discontinued. They have been issuing other types of updates since it was designated as discontinued. What follows are the instructions I wrote up for a couple of my students who were graduate students who seemed to constantly be getting old and arcane material that had been image scanned to PDF long before the age of OCR upon scan became common. I have also used the language packs that are available for PDF-XChange Viewer with a private client who is a translator, and she has told me that the Swedish OCR capability is every bit as good as the English has been for me. Dealing with Image Scanned PDF Files Using PDF XChange Viewer to perform OCR on any PDF you receive that is an image PDF, step-by-step: 1. Open PDF XChange Viewer from your start menu. 2. Hit ALT+F,O to bring up the file open browsing dialog. 3. Hit ALT+I to jump directly to the Look In combo box 4. Hit down arrow to get into the area that’s somewhat, but not exactly, like the tree view in Windows Explorer. 5. Hit L until you hear, “Libraries,” announced. 6. Hit TAB two times, you should hear, “Documents”. 7. Hit SPACEBAR to select the Documents library. 8. Hit ENTER to open the documents library. 9. Hit the first character of the folder or file name you’re trying to perform OCR on. Keep doing this with the first character until you hear its name announced. 10. Hit Enter to open the file or folder. If you’re dealing with a file at this step go straight to step 11. Otherwise, do the following a. If you know the file is in this folder then use the “hit the first character” technique to locate it and jump to step 11 once you have. b. If you need to drill down another folder level go back to step 9. 11. Hit ALT+O to open the file in PDF XChange Viewer. 12. Hit CTRL+SHIFT+C to open the OCR dialog box. Immediately hit ENTER to initiate the OCR processing. The length of time this takes depends on the size of the file being processed. JAWS does not read the processing status box, but will announce the file’s name with star after it when the processing completes. That’s how you’ll know it’s done. 13. Hit ALT+F,S to save the file and its OCR text into the original file itself. 14. Hit ALT+F4 to close PDF XChange Viewer. --Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep. ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back
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Re: Accessible Lightweight PDF Viewers
I'd suggest the webbie PDF reader because it has OCR built in, but you could also upload it to Google Docs and have Google OCR it for you, if needed, You can then publish the text as a web page, download it in basically any format you wish.
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