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locked Re: OT: Stascom 2019 is available for download

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A lot of these can be done with nvda add ons, though the prevent mute might be of interest if a stand alone package, given the mess sighted people ooften leave our machines in in just a ten second useage!
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From: "Christo de Klerk" <christodeklerk@gmail.com>
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Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2019 11:45 AM
Subject: [nvda] OT: Stascom 2019 is available for download


Hello all

Those of you who use and have come to love the free Stascom utilities by Jacques Stassen, take note that Stascom 2019 has just been released. This release has many new exciting features. To those who have not used the program, I recommend that you give it a try. You can download it from:

https://www.stascom.co.za/stascom.html#content

Kind regards

Christo
locked Re: NVDA for Android and IOS

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We have many times been down this route. The short answer is no, since the dependencies used by NVDA are PC specific and indeed windows specific. If you really wanted to do it it would in effect be a completely new screenreader that emulated the windows system but then of course mobile operating systems are nothing like windows and the concepts are totally different anyway. I think this in itself is why we have not seen massive adoption of touch screen windows systems except in niche environments.
Horses for courses as they say.
Brian

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From: "Sociohack AC" <acsociopath@gmail.com>
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Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2019 3:16 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA for Android and IOS


Are there any plans in the pipeline for developing an NVDA app for Android and IOS? Is it possible?
Right now, Talkback and Voiceover do support external keyboard, but it would be so much more convenient if there could be an NVDA application for mobile phones with similar commands as that of a PC. What do you guys think?
--
Regards,
Sociohack
Re: Question about NVDA profiles and layouts

Marcio
 

Yep, I got this add-on a while back.
However, as for layout switching in the way I described, I've never heard of anything about. So am wondering if it's possible at all :)

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy
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Em 10/03/2019 13:21, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io escreveu:

I've never tried it, but  there is certainly an application dictionary add on so one can have bespoke words defined as spoken a certain way in an application. I've not seen it on the list, but it seems to work.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "marcio via Groups.Io" <marcinhorj21@...>
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Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2019 10:25 AM
Subject: [nvda] Question about NVDA profiles and layouts


Hi folks,
So I have a question for you all, perhaps it has been asked here but if
so it was way before I joined this list so here it goes.
Is there any way to switch between the desktop and the laptop layout as
we switch between profiles created?
That is, suppose I have a profile created for a certain program and
there I configured to use the laptop keyboard, whereas out of this
profile my default layout is the desktop one.
When exiting that window of that program, would NVDA get back to the
default layout of my choice? Would it actually never change because
there isn't any way to do such a thing?
In case of it's the second option, don't you think it'd be interesting
trying to develop an add-on that would allow one to do that if so one wants?

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locked Re: OT: Stascom 2019 is available for download

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Unless you are reading off line of course which some third world users often do.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jaffar Sidek" <jaffar.sidek10@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2019 3:24 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] OT: Stascom 2019 is available for download


And he has kindly put the website's link in his message. There
shouldn't be any excuse as the info is just a click away.

On 3/10/2019 7:58 PM, ADRIAN POCOCK wrote:

Hi

There is no real description of what this program is for. So as not
to waste peoples time with something they are not interested in.

Regards Adrian.

On 10/03/2019 11:45, Christo de Klerk wrote:

Hello all

Those of you who use and have come to love the free Stascom utilities
by Jacques Stassen, take note that Stascom 2019 has just been
released. This release has many new exciting features. To those who
have not used the program, I recommend that you give it a try. You
can download it from:

https://www.stascom.co.za/stascom.html#content

Kind regards

Christo
Re: Question about NVDA profiles and layouts

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I've never tried it, but there is certainly an application dictionary add on so one can have bespoke words defined as spoken a certain way in an application. I've not seen it on the list, but it seems to work.
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2019 10:25 AM
Subject: [nvda] Question about NVDA profiles and layouts


Hi folks,
So I have a question for you all, perhaps it has been asked here but if
so it was way before I joined this list so here it goes.
Is there any way to switch between the desktop and the laptop layout as
we switch between profiles created?
That is, suppose I have a profile created for a certain program and
there I configured to use the laptop keyboard, whereas out of this
profile my default layout is the desktop one.
When exiting that window of that program, would NVDA get back to the
default layout of my choice? Would it actually never change because
there isn't any way to do such a thing?
In case of it's the second option, don't you think it'd be interesting
trying to develop an add-on that would allow one to do that if so one wants?

--

Cheers,
Marcio
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Re: bread crumb

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Well and how would the great unwashed know what a unix path was like?
Not being nasty, but the industry seems to invent terms for what worked before as go back or previous.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2019 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] bread crumb


I've seen it on the pc versions of unlv, some forusm, and some general
websites , so they do exist. It might not be a heading but it's obvious
what it is by looking at the page. It looks like a unix path

On 10 Mar 2019, at 3:29, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

No its a term I see a lot on mobile web sites which seems to be a
basic trail back the way you came in, kind of like a ball of string
unwound as you move through a maze. I've not encountered it on pc web
sites but maybe its coming there as well. I am seeing more and more
tap here etc instead of click here though.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Monte Single"
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Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2019 2:39 AM
Subject: [nvda] bread crumb


Using win 7 with nvda and firefox.



Currently, well for the last two weeks, the CELA library here in
Canada has
been undergoin y a major makeover along with a bookshare merge.

Most of it seems pretty haywire; when I do a search I think I am
getting
just bookshare results. The CELA help people tell me they are
working on
it.

When I do a search, I am getting something I have never heard
before.
After I press the search button and press h for heading a couple of
times,
I hear;



"bread crumb navigation"



Is this a NVDA feature?

Thanks,

Monte
locked Re: NVDA for Android and IOS

Antony Stone
 

The effort involved in "converting" NVDA to run on anything other than Windows
would in my opinion be greater than starting from scratch (but with a good
understanding of what a screenreader should provide for the user) and writing
new code.

Android (alongside which you might as well include Linux systems in general)
and iOS work so completely differently from Windows that very little of the
code which has been created for NVDA would be useful or transferrable.

I've no idea how "easily" the Linux Orca screenreader system might be
transferrable to Android, but that's about the only possibility I can think of
for re-using code from an existing project to work on a different operating
system.

Regards,


Antony.

On Sunday 10 March 2019 at 16:16:45, Sociohack AC wrote:

Are there any plans in the pipeline for developing an NVDA app for Android
and IOS? Is it possible? Right now, Talkback and Voiceover do support
external keyboard, but it would be so much more convenient if there could
be an NVDA application for mobile phones with similar commands as that of
a PC. What do you guys think? --
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Sociohack
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locked Re: NVDA for Android and IOS

Florian Ionașcu
 

I remember that it was discussed a long time ago in the Romanian community. Someone suggested it  for Android and Linux. Anyway, I don't know if this will be possible in the future. However, I consider that an NVDA aapplication for IOS isn't necessary, as VoiceOver is a very good screen reader, That's my opinion as an IOS user.

La 10.03.2019 17:24, Sarah k Alawami a scris:

That would be nice however "I'm not sure how much coding that involves as the android platform is way different to the pc platform in terms of what it can and cannot except. I forgot what android os is coded in I think java (not java script) Plus I'm not sure how hard or easy it is to get api and other access that nvda would need.

On 10 Mar 2019, at 8:16, Sociohack AC wrote:

Are there any plans in the pipeline for developing an NVDA app for Android and IOS? Is it possible?
Right now, Talkback and Voiceover do support external keyboard, but it would be so much more convenient if there could be an NVDA application for mobile phones with similar commands as that of a PC. What do you guys think?
--
Regards,
Sociohack

locked Re: NVDA for Android and IOS

Ali Savas
 

Hi,


first, no, it is not possible.


This would not work, becuase:


  • You should program NVDA from the Scratch for each operating system.
  • Apple does not allow to execute binary Code and grab system information on iOS.
  • And many more problems...


Regards

Ali
locked Re: NVDA for Android and IOS

Daniel Wolak
 

Hi,

Personally, I'd say that both of these are highly unlikely. The amount of effort involved for android would most likely be immense, and apple's sandboxing infrastructure would make this impossible unless something drastically changed in their approach. Apples and oranges and all that.

Cheers,


Daniel

On 10/03/2019 15:16, Sociohack AC wrote:
Are there any plans in the pipeline for developing an NVDA app for Android and IOS? Is it possible?
Right now, Talkback and Voiceover do support external keyboard, but it would be so much more convenient if there could be an NVDA application for mobile phones with similar commands as that of a PC. What do you guys think?
--
Regards,
Sociohack

locked Re: OT: Stascom 2019 is available for download

Jaffar Sidek <jaffar.sidek10@...>
 

And he has kindly put the website's link in his message.  There shouldn't be any excuse as the info  is just a click away.

On 3/10/2019 7:58 PM, ADRIAN POCOCK wrote:

Hi

There is no real description of what this program is for.  So as not to waste peoples time with something they are not interested in.

Regards Adrian.

On 10/03/2019 11:45, Christo de Klerk wrote:

Hello all

Those of you who use and have come to love the free Stascom utilities by Jacques Stassen, take note that Stascom 2019 has just been released. This release has many new exciting features. To those who have not used the program, I recommend that you give it a try. You can download it from:

https://www.stascom.co.za/stascom.html#content

Kind regards

Christo
locked Re: NVDA for Android and IOS

Sarah k Alawami
 

That would be nice however "I'm not sure how much coding that involves as the android platform is way different to the pc platform in terms of what it can and cannot except. I forgot what android os is coded in I think java (not java script) Plus I'm not sure how hard or easy it is to get api and other access that nvda would need.

On 10 Mar 2019, at 8:16, Sociohack AC wrote:

Are there any plans in the pipeline for developing an NVDA app for Android and IOS? Is it possible?
Right now, Talkback and Voiceover do support external keyboard, but it would be so much more convenient if there could be an NVDA application for mobile phones with similar commands as that of a PC. What do you guys think?
--
Regards,
Sociohack

Re: bread crumb

Sarah k Alawami
 

I've seen it on the pc versions of unlv, some forusm, and some general websites , so they do exist. It might not be a heading but it's obvious what it is by looking at the page. It looks like a unix path

On 10 Mar 2019, at 3:29, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

No its a term I see a lot on mobile web sites which seems to be a basic trail back the way you came in, kind of like a ball of string unwound as you move through a maze. I've not encountered it on pc web sites but maybe its coming there as well. I am seeing more and more tap here etc instead of click here though.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Monte Single" <mrsingle@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2019 2:39 AM
Subject: [nvda] bread crumb

Using win 7 with nvda and firefox.



Currently, well for the last two weeks, the CELA library here in Canada has
been undergoin y a major makeover along with a bookshare merge.

Most of it seems pretty haywire; when I do a search I think I am getting
just bookshare results. The CELA help people tell me they are working on
it.

When I do a search, I am getting something I have never heard before.
After I press the search button and press h for heading a couple of times,
I hear;



"bread crumb navigation"



Is this a NVDA feature?

Thanks,

Monte
locked NVDA for Android and IOS

Akshaya Choudhary
 

Are there any plans in the pipeline for developing an NVDA app for Android and IOS? Is it possible?
Right now, Talkback and Voiceover do support external keyboard, but it would be so much more convenient if there could be an NVDA application for mobile phones with similar commands as that of a PC. What do you guys think?
--
Regards,
Sociohack
Re: Accessible Lightweight PDF Viewers

Robert Kingett
 

Microsoft word 2016 and later can open PDF files too.
Re: Seeking U.S. Veterans who use NVDA

brian@...
 

Thanks to those who have registered. We are still seeking Veteran users of NVDA. All participants receive a thank you gift to participate. 

Register at http://veteranusability.us/
Or contact directly at dsva@...
Phone at 540-693-5516.

We hope you can join us,
Brian Moon
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Perigean Technologies
Microsoft Virtual Agent

ADRIAN POCOCK
 

Hi

Microsoft Virtual Agent is mentioned in help and support Microsoft, I can not find it on the page either by nvda or visual inspection.  Does anyone know if Java is necessary for it.

Regards Adrian Pocock Email me at ampbeast@...

irc clients and nvda

Daniel Wolak
 

Hi all,

I'm just wondering if anyone has any recommendations for an irc client
that works with NVDA? I was using chatzilla for the longest time, and
liked how I could review the output window as well.


I tried mirc, however found that reviewing output with object nav
(assuming there's not a more affective way to do it) often didn't
contain all the text, and missed the last few lines.

Thanks for any help,


Daniel
locked Re: OT: Stascom 2019 is available for download

Antony Stone
 

The link already given points to a page which lists the features of this
application. They seem to be quite varied.

Antony.

On Sunday 10 March 2019 at 12:55:27, Ron Canazzi wrote:

For those of us who have never herd of it, you might want to tell us
what it is.

On 3/10/2019 7:45 AM, Christo de Klerk wrote:
Hello all

Those of you who use and have come to love the free Stascom utilities
by Jacques Stassen, take note that Stascom 2019 has just been
released. This release has many new exciting features. To those who
have not used the program, I recommend that you give it a try. You can
download it from:

https://www.stascom.co.za/stascom.html#content

Kind regards

Christo
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locked Re: OT: Stascom 2019 is available for download

ADRIAN POCOCK
 

Hi

There is no real description of what this program is for.  So as not to waste peoples time with something they are not interested in.

Regards Adrian.

On 10/03/2019 11:45, Christo de Klerk wrote:

Hello all

Those of you who use and have come to love the free Stascom utilities by Jacques Stassen, take note that Stascom 2019 has just been released. This release has many new exciting features. To those who have not used the program, I recommend that you give it a try. You can download it from:

https://www.stascom.co.za/stascom.html#content

Kind regards

Christo
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