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Re: using nvda to cancel Kindle magazine subscriptions

Richard Bartholomew
 

I haven't done this for a while but, from memory, I think that when you hit enter on that element, a confirmation box appears at the bottom of the screen.

Good luck!
Richard Bartholomew

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: 10 March 2019 18:49
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] using nvda to cancel Kindle magazine subscriptions

I wonder if anybody can give me some advice as to the exact steps to follow in order to use the Amazon website to cancel Kindle magazine subscriptions.I can get to the "manage content and devices" section as instructed. I even managed to get the site to show my magazine subscriptions, something I was not successful at doing using my iPhone.


Once you have the subscriptions showing, there is an "actions" button to the left of each subscription. You are suppose to click on that to reveal choices, such as changing payment method or canceling the subscription. I can find the cancel subscription, but it does not activate when you press enter on it. I can also find it with object navigation, then press the numpad key for left click, also to no avail.
What am I missing here?


Mary


locked Re: OT: Stascom 2019 is available for download

Antony Stone
 

Please, read the previous replies in the thread.

Antony.

On Sunday 10 March 2019 at 20:36:45, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:

Em 10/03/2019 08:45, Christo de Klerk escreveu:
To those who have not used the program, I recommend that you give it a
try.
I'd like to give it a try, but how I can give something a try if I don't
know what something is about?
At least a short description, please :)

Cheers,
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locked Re: OT: Stascom 2019 is available for download

 

Em 10/03/2019 08:45, Christo de Klerk escreveu:

To those who have not used the program, I recommend that you give it a try.

I'd like to give it a try, but how I can give something a try if I don't know what something is about?
At least a short description, please :)

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy
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using nvda to cancel Kindle magazine subscriptions

Mary Otten
 

I wonder if anybody can give me some advice as to the exact steps to follow in order to use the Amazon website to cancel Kindle magazine subscriptions.I can get to the "manage content and devices" section as instructed. I even managed to get the site to show my magazine subscriptions, something I was not successful at doing using my iPhone.


Once you have the subscriptions showing, there is an "actions" button to the left of each subscription. You are suppose to click on that to reveal choices, such as changing payment method or canceling the subscription. I can find the cancel subscription, but it does not activate when you press enter on it. I can also find it with object navigation, then press the numpad key for left click, also to no avail. What am I missing here?


Mary


locked Re: NVDA for Android and IOS

 

As many other people have already mentioned, it seems there's not any plan, for now ou the future, to make NVDA a screen reader to a smartphone.
It actually would be quite nice, though, and I'd be the first to grab it if it ever existed.
Considering how powerful NVDA can be on the Windows platform, if such power could be applied on a smartphone, it would be wonderful!
But unfortunately, I don't see it happening :(

Cheers,
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Em 10/03/2019 12:16, Sociohack AC escreveu:

Are there any plans in the pipeline for developing an NVDA app for Android and IOS? Is it possible?
Right now, Talkback and Voiceover do support external keyboard, but it would be so much more convenient if there could be an NVDA application for mobile phones with similar commands as that of a PC. What do you guys think?
--
Regards,
Sociohack


Re: A web site with a double life

 

I'm not fond of mobile-optimized websites.
The reason is most of the time I'm using my laptop and almost never use my smartphone or any other mobile device to really browse through something.
And, while using a mobile-optimized website on a mobile can be excellent, on the other hand it can be a real hell to use the same website on the computer, because of how things are organized on the screen on a mobile-optimized website.
After all, it's all about preference :)

Cheers,
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Em 10/03/2019 14:06, Antony Stone escreveu:

Many websites do present different content based on the browser they detect is 
visiting them.

Sometimes this is good (eg: for mobile devices, they get the mobile-optimised 
version), but sometimes it is bad.

I recommend contacting the admin of the website to tell them how this is 
interfering with usability.


Antony.

On Sunday 10 March 2019 at 17:41:52, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io 
wrote:

There is a website called  doubletap.online
 Its a Canadian site, but has podcasts about accessible tech.
 However, when I view it in foirefox or waterfox I cannot find a link to
the basic podcast address, only I tunes and some specific apps. However
when I visit it in Safari on the I phone I see the normal link leaving me
in the silly position of copying over the  link feeds.bla bala to the pc
podcatcher address  field manually. Is this a  waterfox/firefox thing? or
is it me or perhaps an nvda thing. I'm using the latest beta of nvda
2019.1.
 Brian

    


Re: reviewing a web page

 

Hi,
Same case of the guy asking about breadcrumb yesterday, if it wasn't you, I actually don't remember :)
"inserted" is an HTML tag which indicates that something was deleted and some other thing is on the place of the old one now.
Suppose you have an original price for something but this thing is with an off for a limited time. You may well want use the "inserted" HTML tag to delete the price and replace it with the new one.
Actually, most of the time it's a combo of two tags, one to delete the old and the other to insert the new content.
I forgot what the other tag is so you may google it if you want more info.
And, while it may be useless for some people, no, as far as I know, there's no way of turning such announcement off using NVDA.

Hth


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Em 10/03/2019 15:18, Don H escreveu:

Sometimes I simply use the down and up arrow keys to review a web page.  In many cases Icome accross lines on the web page that start by NVDA saying inserted followed by some useless info,  What does the term inserted mean in these cases?

Thanks








Re: A web site with a double life

Gene
 

Are you saying you want an address to subscribe to a podcast?  I see, using an older version of Chrome, specific episodes linked to, such as a link to Episode 72 of a podcast after a dewscription of it.  Where are links to subscribe found when you look using another platform?  At this point we have far too little information to say that it is at all likely the site is tailoring content.  It may just be that this or that browser is showing code on the page that other browsers don't. 
 
Here is the direct link to episode 72 of a podcast.  I used to copy shortcut feature in Chrome, the same as copy link location in Firefox.  Is the link to the general podcast series based on this link?
 
Gene

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Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2019 12:06 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] A web site with a double life

Many websites do present different content based on the browser they detect is
visiting them.

Sometimes this is good (eg: for mobile devices, they get the mobile-optimised
version), but sometimes it is bad.

I recommend contacting the admin of the website to tell them how this is
interfering with usability.


Antony.

On Sunday 10 March 2019 at 17:41:52, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
wrote:

> There is a website called  doubletap.online
>  Its a Canadian site, but has podcasts about accessible tech.
>  However, when I view it in foirefox or waterfox I cannot find a link to
> the basic podcast address, only I tunes and some specific apps. However
> when I visit it in Safari on the I phone I see the normal link leaving me
> in the silly position of copying over the  link feeds.bla bala to the pc
> podcatcher address  field manually. Is this a  waterfox/firefox thing? or
> is it me or perhaps an nvda thing. I'm using the latest beta of nvda
> 2019.1.
>  Brian

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reviewing a web page

Don H
 

Sometimes I simply use the down and up arrow keys to review a web page.  In many cases Icome accross lines on the web page that start by NVDA saying inserted followed by some useless info,  What does the term inserted mean in these cases?

Thanks


Re: A web site with a double life

JM Casey
 

In addition to what you mentioned above, geography can also be a factor in
determining what site you "get" to view. Some redirect according to IP
address. I think Amazon used to do this, though it doesn't seem to anymore
for amazon.com and amazon.ca.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Antony Stone
Sent: March 10, 2019 1:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] A web site with a double life

Many websites do present different content based on the browser they detect
is visiting them.

Sometimes this is good (eg: for mobile devices, they get the
mobile-optimised version), but sometimes it is bad.

I recommend contacting the admin of the website to tell them how this is
interfering with usability.


Antony.

On Sunday 10 March 2019 at 17:41:52, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io

wrote:

There is a website called doubletap.online
Its a Canadian site, but has podcasts about accessible tech.
However, when I view it in foirefox or waterfox I cannot find a link to
the basic podcast address, only I tunes and some specific apps. However
when I visit it in Safari on the I phone I see the normal link leaving me
in the silly position of copying over the link feeds.bla bala to the pc
podcatcher address field manually. Is this a waterfox/firefox thing? or
is it me or perhaps an nvda thing. I'm using the latest beta of nvda
2019.1.
Brian
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locked Re: NVDA for Android and IOS

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

Hello,

As many other people already stated, no, it is not possible right now and I personally don’t see a need for it. We have talkback and voiceover which are pretty good screen readers on their platforms.

NVDA is my choice of screen reader for the Windows platform and I would prefer that the NVDA community spend their power to make it better on that platform instead of trying to  transform it for other platforms.

 

Cheers,

  Ralf

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sociohack AC
Sent: Sonntag, 10. März 2019 16:17
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA for Android and IOS

 

Are there any plans in the pipeline for developing an NVDA app for Android and IOS? Is it possible?
Right now, Talkback and Voiceover do support external keyboard, but it would be so much more convenient if there could be an NVDA application for mobile phones with similar commands as that of a PC. What do you guys think?
--
Regards,
Sociohack


Re: A web site with a double life

Antony Stone
 

Many websites do present different content based on the browser they detect is
visiting them.

Sometimes this is good (eg: for mobile devices, they get the mobile-optimised
version), but sometimes it is bad.

I recommend contacting the admin of the website to tell them how this is
interfering with usability.


Antony.

On Sunday 10 March 2019 at 17:41:52, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
wrote:

There is a website called doubletap.online
Its a Canadian site, but has podcasts about accessible tech.
However, when I view it in foirefox or waterfox I cannot find a link to
the basic podcast address, only I tunes and some specific apps. However
when I visit it in Safari on the I phone I see the normal link leaving me
in the silly position of copying over the link feeds.bla bala to the pc
podcatcher address field manually. Is this a waterfox/firefox thing? or
is it me or perhaps an nvda thing. I'm using the latest beta of nvda
2019.1.
Brian
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A web site with a double life

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There is a website called doubletap.online
Its a Canadian site, but has podcasts about accessible tech.
However, when I view it in foirefox or waterfox I cannot find a link to the basic podcast address, only I tunes and some specific apps. However when I visit it in Safari on the I phone I see the normal link leaving me in the silly position of copying over the link feeds.bla bala to the pc podcatcher address field manually. Is this a waterfox/firefox thing? or is it me or perhaps an nvda thing. I'm using the latest beta of nvda 2019.1.
Brian

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locked Re: OT: Stascom 2019 is available for download

Tyler Wood
 

And he has kindly put the website's link in his message.  There shouldn't be any excuse as the info  is just a click away.


And what, prey tell, would clicking that link bring me to? An unknown link for a program I have never heard of, that nobody else is saying anything about?


Sorry, but at least a general description, even if copy pasted from the website, would be very helpful in an instance like this. I don't just click links willy nilly, regardless where they may originate.


On 2019-03-10 10:24 a.m., Jaffar Sidek wrote:

And he has kindly put the website's link in his message.  There shouldn't be any excuse as the info  is just a click away.

On 3/10/2019 7:58 PM, ADRIAN POCOCK wrote:

Hi

There is no real description of what this program is for.  So as not to waste peoples time with something they are not interested in.

Regards Adrian.

On 10/03/2019 11:45, Christo de Klerk wrote:

Hello all

Those of you who use and have come to love the free Stascom utilities by Jacques Stassen, take note that Stascom 2019 has just been released. This release has many new exciting features. To those who have not used the program, I recommend that you give it a try. You can download it from:

https://www.stascom.co.za/stascom.html#content

Kind regards

Christo


locked Re: OT: Stascom 2019 is available for download

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A lot of these can be done with nvda add ons, though the prevent mute might be of interest if a stand alone package, given the mess sighted people ooften leave our machines in in just a ten second useage!
Brian

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From: "Christo de Klerk" <christodeklerk@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2019 11:45 AM
Subject: [nvda] OT: Stascom 2019 is available for download


Hello all

Those of you who use and have come to love the free Stascom utilities by Jacques Stassen, take note that Stascom 2019 has just been released. This release has many new exciting features. To those who have not used the program, I recommend that you give it a try. You can download it from:

https://www.stascom.co.za/stascom.html#content

Kind regards

Christo




locked Re: NVDA for Android and IOS

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We have many times been down this route. The short answer is no, since the dependencies used by NVDA are PC specific and indeed windows specific. If you really wanted to do it it would in effect be a completely new screenreader that emulated the windows system but then of course mobile operating systems are nothing like windows and the concepts are totally different anyway. I think this in itself is why we have not seen massive adoption of touch screen windows systems except in niche environments.
Horses for courses as they say.
Brian

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Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2019 3:16 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA for Android and IOS


Are there any plans in the pipeline for developing an NVDA app for Android and IOS? Is it possible?
Right now, Talkback and Voiceover do support external keyboard, but it would be so much more convenient if there could be an NVDA application for mobile phones with similar commands as that of a PC. What do you guys think?
--
Regards,
Sociohack


Re: Question about NVDA profiles and layouts

 

Yep, I got this add-on a while back.
However, as for layout switching in the way I described, I've never heard of anything about. So am wondering if it's possible at all :)

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy
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Em 10/03/2019 13:21, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io escreveu:

I've never tried it, but  there is certainly an application dictionary add on so one can have bespoke words defined as spoken a certain way in an application. I've not seen it on the list, but it seems to work.
Brian

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Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2019 10:25 AM
Subject: [nvda] Question about NVDA profiles and layouts


Hi folks,
So I have a question for you all, perhaps it has been asked here but if
so it was way before I joined this list so here it goes.
Is there any way to switch between the desktop and the laptop layout as
we switch between profiles created?
That is, suppose I have a profile created for a certain program and
there I configured to use the laptop keyboard, whereas out of this
profile my default layout is the desktop one.
When exiting that window of that program, would NVDA get back to the
default layout of my choice? Would it actually never change because
there isn't any way to do such a thing?
In case of it's the second option, don't you think it'd be interesting
trying to develop an add-on that would allow one to do that if so one wants?

-- 

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locked Re: OT: Stascom 2019 is available for download

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Unless you are reading off line of course which some third world users often do.
Brian

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From: "Jaffar Sidek" <jaffar.sidek10@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2019 3:24 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] OT: Stascom 2019 is available for download


And he has kindly put the website's link in his message. There
shouldn't be any excuse as the info is just a click away.

On 3/10/2019 7:58 PM, ADRIAN POCOCK wrote:

Hi

There is no real description of what this program is for. So as not
to waste peoples time with something they are not interested in.

Regards Adrian.

On 10/03/2019 11:45, Christo de Klerk wrote:

Hello all

Those of you who use and have come to love the free Stascom utilities
by Jacques Stassen, take note that Stascom 2019 has just been
released. This release has many new exciting features. To those who
have not used the program, I recommend that you give it a try. You
can download it from:

https://www.stascom.co.za/stascom.html#content

Kind regards

Christo


Re: Question about NVDA profiles and layouts

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I've never tried it, but there is certainly an application dictionary add on so one can have bespoke words defined as spoken a certain way in an application. I've not seen it on the list, but it seems to work.
Brian

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From: "marcio via Groups.Io" <marcinhorj21=yahoo.com.br@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2019 10:25 AM
Subject: [nvda] Question about NVDA profiles and layouts


Hi folks,
So I have a question for you all, perhaps it has been asked here but if
so it was way before I joined this list so here it goes.
Is there any way to switch between the desktop and the laptop layout as
we switch between profiles created?
That is, suppose I have a profile created for a certain program and
there I configured to use the laptop keyboard, whereas out of this
profile my default layout is the desktop one.
When exiting that window of that program, would NVDA get back to the
default layout of my choice? Would it actually never change because
there isn't any way to do such a thing?
In case of it's the second option, don't you think it'd be interesting
trying to develop an add-on that would allow one to do that if so one wants?

--

Cheers,
Marcio
AKA /Starboy/


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Re: bread crumb

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Well and how would the great unwashed know what a unix path was like?
Not being nasty, but the industry seems to invent terms for what worked before as go back or previous.
Brian

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Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2019 3:22 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] bread crumb


I've seen it on the pc versions of unlv, some forusm, and some general
websites , so they do exist. It might not be a heading but it's obvious
what it is by looking at the page. It looks like a unix path

On 10 Mar 2019, at 3:29, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

No its a term I see a lot on mobile web sites which seems to be a
basic trail back the way you came in, kind of like a ball of string
unwound as you move through a maze. I've not encountered it on pc web
sites but maybe its coming there as well. I am seeing more and more
tap here etc instead of click here though.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Monte Single"
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2019 2:39 AM
Subject: [nvda] bread crumb


Using win 7 with nvda and firefox.



Currently, well for the last two weeks, the CELA library here in
Canada has
been undergoin y a major makeover along with a bookshare merge.

Most of it seems pretty haywire; when I do a search I think I am
getting
just bookshare results. The CELA help people tell me they are
working on
it.

When I do a search, I am getting something I have never heard
before.
After I press the search button and press h for heading a couple of
times,
I hear;



"bread crumb navigation"



Is this a NVDA feature?

Thanks,

Monte