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locked Re: NVDA for Android and IOS

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

Not sure what the point would be.

NVDA is a windows application, there's no advantage to porting it to IOS or Android, since those platforms already have screen readers, (IOS even has one built-in), what would be the usage case for making another one?

Android has multiple screen readers, so AI suppose another one there couldn't hurt, but it won't be NVDA, since porting a windows app to a linux environment isn't  really something that can be done easily, (or in some cases) at all, because of the  way they work, and to be honest, NVDA falls into the second category.  To make a linux screen reader, you need to do things entirely differently than on a windows system.  Basically, it would be a matter of rewriting NVDA from scratch, and since there's already some very good screen readers for linux, Android and OSX, there's not much point to it.

On 3/10/2019 11:16 AM, Sociohack AC wrote:
Are there any plans in the pipeline for developing an NVDA app for Android and IOS? Is it possible?
Right now, Talkback and Voiceover do support external keyboard, but it would be so much more convenient if there could be an NVDA application for mobile phones with similar commands as that of a PC. What do you guys think?
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Re: Zoomtext and nvda

ADRIAN POCOCK
 

hi Desert Moon

I have got these cmds written down from their site, but do they interfere with nvda key.

I use win7 mostly and have win 10 on ice.

By what you said it seems not necessary to spend the money on it for win 10, but what about win 7.  Does it give much more than using built in magn full screen with nvda.

Also can you run it from thumb drive or is it for one system only.

Regards Adrian Pocock

On 10/03/2019 20:20, Desert Moon via Groups.Io wrote:

Hello Adrian,

 

I use ZoomText 10.1 at work and soon will be upgrading. ZoomText 11 is a legacy product. The latest version is 2019.

 

In the Desktop Layout Mode, the main modifier key is Caps Lock. And in the Laptop Layout Mode, the modifier keys are Caps Lock + Alt.

 

For your interest, here are some ZoomText Hotkey Commands that every user should know

Zoom In / Out    Caps Lock + Up / Down

Zoom to 1x (toggle)        Caps Lock + Enter

Enhance Colors On/Off   Caps Lock + C

Show User Interface       Caps Lock + Ctrl + U

ZoomText On/Off            Caps Lock + Ctrl + Enter

Launch AppReader         Caps Lock + Alt + A

Voice Faster / Slower     Caps Lock + Alt + Up / Down

Voice On/Off      Caps Lock + Alt + Enter

Quiet    Ctrl

 

If you have Windows 10, I don’ think you need ZoomText. Most of its functions can be achieved with the accessibility features native to Windows 10 and NVDA.

 

 


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Desert


Re: using nvda to cancel Kindle magazine subscriptions

Kwork
 

I can agree here. I'm learning to start looking around the screen more, usually at the bottom, if something I click doesn't seem to do anything at first. That's where the confirmations show up, and on the content and devices page at Amazon, that's almost always true. Maybe some sort of notice that content at bottom of page has changed would alert especially the beginner that something is going on that NVDA isn't focussing on immediately.

Travis

On 3/10/2019 1:18 PM, Gene wrote:
This thread raises the question about whether a feature should be added to NVDA while using browse mode or forms mode.  If you are filling out a form, it might be a useful feature to be able to have new material that comes up in response to an action taken automatically read.  It appears, from comments in this thread, that new material comes up in response to something the user does and it is not in the form or not in a place the user would come across it if just going down the form.  If it were read, the user would be alerted to look elsewhere for the new material. 
 
I'm not sure this feature should be on by default but it might be useful and save people trouble.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Mary Otten
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2019 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] using nvda to cancel Kindle magazine subscriptions

Thank you, Richard. That did the trick. Intuitive it is not, but it is
nice to be able to do this without having to ask my sighted husband.
It'd be cool if focus could be placed on that confirmation box after you
press the cancel button.


Mary

On 3/10/2019 12:41 PM, Richard Bartholomew wrote:
> I haven't done this for a while but, from memory, I think that when you hit enter on that element, a confirmation box appears at the bottom of the screen.
>
> Good luck!
> Richard Bartholomew
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mary Otten
> Sent: 10 March 2019 18:49
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] using nvda to cancel Kindle magazine subscriptions
>
> I wonder if anybody can give me some advice as to the exact steps to follow in order to use the Amazon website to cancel Kindle magazine subscriptions.I can get to the "manage content and devices" section as instructed. I even managed to get the site to show my magazine subscriptions, something I was not successful at doing using my iPhone.
>
>
> Once you have the subscriptions showing, there is an "actions" button to the left of each subscription. You are suppose to click on that to reveal choices, such as changing payment method or canceling the subscription. I can find the cancel subscription, but it does not activate when you press enter on it. I can also find it with object navigation, then press the numpad key for left click, also to no avail.
> What am I missing here?
>
>
> Mary
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



locked Re: OT: Stascom 2019 is available for download

Kwork
 

That's because there hasn't been so far. I won't click without some sort of info as it could be a virus alert.

Travis

On 3/10/2019 12:56 PM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:
I've read all the replies and can't find out what it is about until now.
Can you please quote me one of them with this information?
My bad, I'll pay more attention next time.

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy
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Em 10/03/2019 16:41, Antony Stone escreveu:
Please, read the previous replies in the thread.

Antony.

On Sunday 10 March 2019 at 20:36:45, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:

Em 10/03/2019 08:45, Christo de Klerk escreveu:
To those who have not used the program, I recommend that you give it a
try.
I'd like to give it a try, but how I can give something a try if I don't
know what something is about?
At least a short description, please :)

Cheers,
Marcio
AKA /Starboy/


Re: using nvda to cancel Kindle magazine subscriptions

Kwork
 

Mary, after clicking on the cancel, go to the bottom of the screen. When returning a kindle book for refund, that's where the popup is where you have to click yes to confirm. I imagine that magazines are the same way.

Travis

On 3/10/2019 11:49 AM, Mary Otten wrote:
I wonder if anybody can give me some advice as to the exact steps to follow in order to use the Amazon website to cancel Kindle magazine subscriptions.I can get to the "manage content and devices" section as instructed. I even managed to get the site to show my magazine subscriptions, something I was not successful at doing using my iPhone.


Once you have the subscriptions showing, there is an "actions" button to the left of each subscription. You are suppose to click on that to reveal choices, such as changing payment method or canceling the subscription. I can find the cancel subscription, but it does not activate when you press enter on it. I can also find it with object navigation, then press the numpad key for left click, also to no avail. What am I missing here?


Mary




locked Re: OT: Stascom 2019 is available for download

Kwork
 

I agree. That's what one would say when asking someone to click on something that would install a virus on a system.

Travis

On 3/10/2019 9:37 AM, Tyler Wood wrote:

And he has kindly put the website's link in his message.  There shouldn't be any excuse as the info  is just a click away.


And what, prey tell, would clicking that link bring me to? An unknown link for a program I have never heard of, that nobody else is saying anything about?


Sorry, but at least a general description, even if copy pasted from the website, would be very helpful in an instance like this. I don't just click links willy nilly, regardless where they may originate.


On 2019-03-10 10:24 a.m., Jaffar Sidek wrote:

And he has kindly put the website's link in his message.  There shouldn't be any excuse as the info  is just a click away.

On 3/10/2019 7:58 PM, ADRIAN POCOCK wrote:

Hi

There is no real description of what this program is for.  So as not to waste peoples time with something they are not interested in.

Regards Adrian.

On 10/03/2019 11:45, Christo de Klerk wrote:

Hello all

Those of you who use and have come to love the free Stascom utilities by Jacques Stassen, take note that Stascom 2019 has just been released. This release has many new exciting features. To those who have not used the program, I recommend that you give it a try. You can download it from:

https://www.stascom.co.za/stascom.html#content

Kind regards

Christo


locked Re: OT: Stascom 2019 is available for download

Kwork
 

LOL, without a description to want me to click on it, no go. There needs to be some description, even a headline style one liner. Since there isn't, I've already spent too much time on this subject.

Besides, if not NVDA related, this should have been posted to chat in the first place, not here.

Travis

On 3/10/2019 8:24 AM, Jaffar Sidek wrote:

And he has kindly put the website's link in his message.  There shouldn't be any excuse as the info  is just a click away.

On 3/10/2019 7:58 PM, ADRIAN POCOCK wrote:

Hi

There is no real description of what this program is for.  So as not to waste peoples time with something they are not interested in.

Regards Adrian.

On 10/03/2019 11:45, Christo de Klerk wrote:

Hello all

Those of you who use and have come to love the free Stascom utilities by Jacques Stassen, take note that Stascom 2019 has just been released. This release has many new exciting features. To those who have not used the program, I recommend that you give it a try. You can download it from:

https://www.stascom.co.za/stascom.html#content

Kind regards

Christo


Re: Zoomtext and nvda

Desert Moon
 

Hello Adrian,

 

I use ZoomText 10.1 at work and soon will be upgrading. ZoomText 11 is a legacy product. The latest version is 2019.

 

In the Desktop Layout Mode, the main modifier key is Caps Lock. And in the Laptop Layout Mode, the modifier keys are Caps Lock + Alt.

 

For your interest, here are some ZoomText Hotkey Commands that every user should know

Zoom In / Out    Caps Lock + Up / Down

Zoom to 1x (toggle)        Caps Lock + Enter

Enhance Colors On/Off   Caps Lock + C

Show User Interface       Caps Lock + Ctrl + U

ZoomText On/Off            Caps Lock + Ctrl + Enter

Launch AppReader         Caps Lock + Alt + A

Voice Faster / Slower     Caps Lock + Alt + Up / Down

Voice On/Off      Caps Lock + Alt + Enter

Quiet    Ctrl

 

If you have Windows 10, I don’ think you need ZoomText. Most of its functions can be achieved with the accessibility features native to Windows 10 and NVDA.

 

 


--
Desert


Re: using nvda to cancel Kindle magazine subscriptions

Gene
 

This thread raises the question about whether a feature should be added to NVDA while using browse mode or forms mode.  If you are filling out a form, it might be a useful feature to be able to have new material that comes up in response to an action taken automatically read.  It appears, from comments in this thread, that new material comes up in response to something the user does and it is not in the form or not in a place the user would come across it if just going down the form.  If it were read, the user would be alerted to look elsewhere for the new material. 
 
I'm not sure this feature should be on by default but it might be useful and save people trouble.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Mary Otten
Sent: Sunday, March 10, 2019 3:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] using nvda to cancel Kindle magazine subscriptions

Thank you, Richard. That did the trick. Intuitive it is not, but it is
nice to be able to do this without having to ask my sighted husband.
It'd be cool if focus could be placed on that confirmation box after you
press the cancel button.


Mary

On 3/10/2019 12:41 PM, Richard Bartholomew wrote:
> I haven't done this for a while but, from memory, I think that when you hit enter on that element, a confirmation box appears at the bottom of the screen.
>
> Good luck!
> Richard Bartholomew
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mary Otten
> Sent: 10 March 2019 18:49
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] using nvda to cancel Kindle magazine subscriptions
>
> I wonder if anybody can give me some advice as to the exact steps to follow in order to use the Amazon website to cancel Kindle magazine subscriptions.I can get to the "manage content and devices" section as instructed. I even managed to get the site to show my magazine subscriptions, something I was not successful at doing using my iPhone.
>
>
> Once you have the subscriptions showing, there is an "actions" button to the left of each subscription. You are suppose to click on that to reveal choices, such as changing payment method or canceling the subscription. I can find the cancel subscription, but it does not activate when you press enter on it. I can also find it with object navigation, then press the numpad key for left click, also to no avail.
> What am I missing here?
>
>
> Mary
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>



locked Re: NVDA for Android and IOS

Mallard
 

Yes, it would be fantastic... Also on Linux...

Ciao,

Ollie

Il 10/03/2019 19:42, marcio via Groups.Io ha scritto:
As many other people have already mentioned, it seems there's not any plan, for now ou the future, to make NVDA a screen reader to a smartphone.
It actually would be quite nice, though, and I'd be the first to grab it if it ever existed.
Considering how powerful NVDA can be on the Windows platform, if such power could be applied on a smartphone, it would be wonderful!
But unfortunately, I don't see it happening :(

Cheers,
Marcio AKA /Starboy/
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Em 10/03/2019 12:16, Sociohack AC escreveu:
Are there any plans in the pipeline for developing an NVDA app for Android and IOS? Is it possible?
Right now, Talkback and Voiceover do support external keyboard, but it would be so much more convenient if there could be an NVDA application for mobile phones with similar commands as that of a PC. What do you guys think?
--
Regards,
Sociohack


Re: irc clients and nvda

JM Casey
 

I used MIRC very successfully with JAWS until recently; I think it would work well with NVDA too, but you’d probably want to use screen review a lot.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of marcio via Groups.Io
Sent: March 10, 2019 3:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] irc clients and nvda

 

IRC! I can't tell you how much time I haven't heard of it :)

Well I don't know of any accessible client. Last time I used it, quite a while back, I've used a basic client developed by brazilian folks for another program called DOSVOX. I doubt anyone on this list will know about this program, by the way.

Cheers,
Marcio

AKA Starboy


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Em 10/03/2019 09:36, Daniel Wolak escreveu:

        Hi all,
 
I'm just wondering if anyone has any recommendations for an irc client 
that works with NVDA? I was using chatzilla for the longest time, and 
liked how I could review the output window as well.
 
 
I tried mirc, however found that reviewing output with object nav 
(assuming there's not a more affective way to do it) often didn't 
contain all the text, and missed the last few lines.
 
Thanks for any help,
 
 
Daniel
 
 
 
 

 


locked Re: OT: Stascom 2019 is available for download

Antony Stone
 

On Sunday 10 March 2019 at 20:56:11, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:

I've read all the replies and can't find out what it is about until now.
Can you please quote me one of them with this information?
My bad, I'll pay more attention next time.

Cheers,
Marcio
AKA /Starboy/

Em 10/03/2019 16:41, Antony Stone escreveu:
Please, read the previous replies in the thread.

Antony.

On Sunday 10 March 2019 at 20:36:45, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:
Em 10/03/2019 08:45, Christo de Klerk escreveu:
To those who have not used the program, I recommend that you give it a
try.
I'd like to give it a try, but how I can give something a try if I don't
know what something is about?
At least a short description, please :)

Cheers,
Marcio
AKA /Starboy/
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inadvertently renders them relatively incompetent.

- Daniel C Dennett

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Re: using nvda to cancel Kindle magazine subscriptions

Mary Otten
 

Thank you, Richard. That did the trick. Intuitive it is not, but it is nice to be able to do this without having to ask my sighted husband. It'd be cool if focus could be placed on that confirmation box after you press the cancel button.


Mary

On 3/10/2019 12:41 PM, Richard Bartholomew wrote:
I haven't done this for a while but, from memory, I think that when you hit enter on that element, a confirmation box appears at the bottom of the screen.

Good luck!
Richard Bartholomew


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: 10 March 2019 18:49
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] using nvda to cancel Kindle magazine subscriptions

I wonder if anybody can give me some advice as to the exact steps to follow in order to use the Amazon website to cancel Kindle magazine subscriptions.I can get to the "manage content and devices" section as instructed. I even managed to get the site to show my magazine subscriptions, something I was not successful at doing using my iPhone.


Once you have the subscriptions showing, there is an "actions" button to the left of each subscription. You are suppose to click on that to reveal choices, such as changing payment method or canceling the subscription. I can find the cancel subscription, but it does not activate when you press enter on it. I can also find it with object navigation, then press the numpad key for left click, also to no avail.
What am I missing here?


Mary







locked Re: OT: Stascom 2019 is available for download

 

I've read all the replies and can't find out what it is about until now.
Can you please quote me one of them with this information?
My bad, I'll pay more attention next time.

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy
Follow or add me on Facebook

Em 10/03/2019 16:41, Antony Stone escreveu:

Please, read the previous replies in the thread.

Antony.

On Sunday 10 March 2019 at 20:36:45, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:

Em 10/03/2019 08:45, Christo de Klerk escreveu:
To those who have not used the program, I recommend that you give it a
try.
I'd like to give it a try, but how I can give something a try if I don't
know what something is about?
At least a short description, please :)

Cheers,
Marcio
AKA /Starboy/

    


Re: irc clients and nvda

 

IRC! I can't tell you how much time I haven't heard of it :)
Well I don't know of any accessible client. Last time I used it, quite a while back, I've used a basic client developed by brazilian folks for another program called DOSVOX. I doubt anyone on this list will know about this program, by the way.

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy
Follow or add me on Facebook

Em 10/03/2019 09:36, Daniel Wolak escreveu:

        Hi all,

I'm just wondering if anyone has any recommendations for an irc client 
that works with NVDA? I was using chatzilla for the longest time, and 
liked how I could review the output window as well.


I tried mirc, however found that reviewing output with object nav 
(assuming there's not a more affective way to do it) often didn't 
contain all the text, and missed the last few lines.

Thanks for any help,


Daniel






Re: using nvda to cancel Kindle magazine subscriptions

Richard Bartholomew
 

I haven't done this for a while but, from memory, I think that when you hit enter on that element, a confirmation box appears at the bottom of the screen.

Good luck!
Richard Bartholomew

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Mary Otten
Sent: 10 March 2019 18:49
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] using nvda to cancel Kindle magazine subscriptions

I wonder if anybody can give me some advice as to the exact steps to follow in order to use the Amazon website to cancel Kindle magazine subscriptions.I can get to the "manage content and devices" section as instructed. I even managed to get the site to show my magazine subscriptions, something I was not successful at doing using my iPhone.


Once you have the subscriptions showing, there is an "actions" button to the left of each subscription. You are suppose to click on that to reveal choices, such as changing payment method or canceling the subscription. I can find the cancel subscription, but it does not activate when you press enter on it. I can also find it with object navigation, then press the numpad key for left click, also to no avail.
What am I missing here?


Mary


locked Re: OT: Stascom 2019 is available for download

Antony Stone
 

Please, read the previous replies in the thread.

Antony.

On Sunday 10 March 2019 at 20:36:45, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:

Em 10/03/2019 08:45, Christo de Klerk escreveu:
To those who have not used the program, I recommend that you give it a
try.
I'd like to give it a try, but how I can give something a try if I don't
know what something is about?
At least a short description, please :)

Cheers,
Marcio
AKA /Starboy/
--
BASIC is to computer languages what Roman numerals are to arithmetic.

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locked Re: OT: Stascom 2019 is available for download

 

Em 10/03/2019 08:45, Christo de Klerk escreveu:

To those who have not used the program, I recommend that you give it a try.

I'd like to give it a try, but how I can give something a try if I don't know what something is about?
At least a short description, please :)

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy
Follow or add me on Facebook


using nvda to cancel Kindle magazine subscriptions

Mary Otten
 

I wonder if anybody can give me some advice as to the exact steps to follow in order to use the Amazon website to cancel Kindle magazine subscriptions.I can get to the "manage content and devices" section as instructed. I even managed to get the site to show my magazine subscriptions, something I was not successful at doing using my iPhone.


Once you have the subscriptions showing, there is an "actions" button to the left of each subscription. You are suppose to click on that to reveal choices, such as changing payment method or canceling the subscription. I can find the cancel subscription, but it does not activate when you press enter on it. I can also find it with object navigation, then press the numpad key for left click, also to no avail. What am I missing here?


Mary


locked Re: NVDA for Android and IOS

 

As many other people have already mentioned, it seems there's not any plan, for now ou the future, to make NVDA a screen reader to a smartphone.
It actually would be quite nice, though, and I'd be the first to grab it if it ever existed.
Considering how powerful NVDA can be on the Windows platform, if such power could be applied on a smartphone, it would be wonderful!
But unfortunately, I don't see it happening :(

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy
Follow or add me on Facebook

Em 10/03/2019 12:16, Sociohack AC escreveu:

Are there any plans in the pipeline for developing an NVDA app for Android and IOS? Is it possible?
Right now, Talkback and Voiceover do support external keyboard, but it would be so much more convenient if there could be an NVDA application for mobile phones with similar commands as that of a PC. What do you guys think?
--
Regards,
Sociohack