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Re: image describer addon for NVDA

 

I installed it, but have not played with it.  It absolutely does show up in Add-On Manager if it is actually installed.

I will repeat the link to the reddit page that describes the add-on.  There is a link there to its download page:  https://www.reddit.com/r/Blind/comments/b11tcr/image_describer_nvda_addon/

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Re: image describer addon for NVDA

Oliver Edholm
 

This is so cool! I'm the creator of this add-on, love that it's being useful for people! 

If someone has any idea for improvements or other add-ons, please tell. I'm reachable at oliver.edholm@...


Re: a way to lock the nvda key?

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

It really wouldn't be that difficult for the developers to add a simple toggle (maybe something like nvda-enter), that would simply act like the nvda key was down no matter what other key you hit.  If I can find this numlock add-on, perhaps I'll hack that to do this myself.  I'm an experienced programmer, but python is not my language of choice, and NVDA specifically is not a program to which I have familarized myself with it's source code, so having samples of something to see how it's done would make creating a different add-on to toggle the nvda key into always on mode wouldn't be that hard at that point, but this is something one of the regular NVDA developers would have little trouble completing.  Perhaps an enhancement request should be submitted, and someone could add it as time permits.

On 3/14/2019 1:37 PM, Gene wrote:
How would you lock it, however, without using sticky keys in general?  Using sticky keys, you can lock it as you can any sticky key but my understanding is that the desire is to have only that key be locked. 
 
NVDA, if you press the modifier twice, passes the second command to Windows, so if you press insert twice, you have pressed it once, as far as Windows is concerned.  If you press caps lock twice, you lock or unlock caps lock because you have actually passed the keystroke to Windows once.  So some other means of locking the key would be wanted because you wouldn't want to lose that ability.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a way to lock the nvda key?

Locking the NVDA key is most certainly possible, it has nothing to do
with whether it's a microsoft program or another one, it's just a matter
of keyboard interception, which is something NVDA already does.

On 3/14/2019 12:37 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
> But is this not part of Mac OS to start with? I'm not sure if the
> Windows system allows  external software to act this way. After all
> voice over is an apple program but nvda is not made by Microsoft.
> Brian
>
> bglists@...
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal E-mail to:-
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> in the display name field.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 3:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [nvda] a way to lock the nvda key?
>
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>> I want to lock the modifier what ever that is in terms of nvda. After
>> all, I can  do it in vo with the capslock or the vo keys with one key
>> stroke, all the modifiers are locked no matter what I choose and I can
>> just press let's ssay shift down to interact etc or f to find somethingn
>> or g to find next. Look, one hand. Lol! I want to do this in nvda to
>> make some of the command seaiser especially when I'm doing  a lot  at
>> once.
>>
>> Take care
>>
>> On 14 Mar 2019, at 1:15, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
>>
>>> I think the person wanted it on caps lock but that key is already
>>> multi purpose for caps so adding even more confusion might be a bit
>>> like jumping out of the frying pan into the fire, so to speak.
>>>
>>> This is almost where some kind of hardware device would be handy to
>>> be used to  stick on and turn off a programmed set off keys .
>>> Brian
>>>
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>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Vogel"
>>> <britechguy@...>
>>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 9:05 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] a way to lock the nvda key?
>>>
>>>
>>> As has already been mentioned, Sticky Keys is toggle-able, and almost
>>> everyone I know who uses it does just that. Even though the default
>>> toggle is five sequential presses of the SHIFT key, that can be done
>>> very quickly.
>>>
>>> The message when toggling says it affects CTRL, SHIFT, ALT, and
>>> WinKey. I just tested it though, with the NumPad Insert when in NVDA
>>> and it was sticky-ing it, too, as you get a tone when that's active.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
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>>>
>>> *A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the
>>> need for illusion is deep.*
>>>
>>> ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back
>>>
>>>
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Re: image describer addon for NVDA

Ivan pivac
 

Hi Everyone,


I installed the image app and found it worked extremely well.  The download and installation was seemless.  Although I'll need to use it more, to establish its capabilities, my immediate impression is that the add on is a very useful tool for us. 



Cheers


Ivan

On 15/03/2019 10:35 AM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

hi


it also does not show under the nvda user configuration directory as a add on either. so I am guessing it just did not install unless it was compatible with this version.


Did any one get it to work in earlier versions of nvda? and if so how did you do it?

Was it just a matter of installing the add on and using the shortcut or did you have to sign up so you could use it?


I did a while ago see reference to this add on which did have more information but do not know where it has gone.


Gene nz


On 15/03/2019 10:23 AM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi


Just tried it. It does not show up under the add on manager as a add on so apart from the shortcut given on one of the pages there is no real way to see if there are any steps missed to make it work. it also does not show up any where else. has any one else got it to work? If it does work it will need to be updated so it works with the latest version of nvda.


I just got to remember how to remove the ones with out it be shown in the add on manager. maybe more info can be found under the explore user configuration directory i think it is called.


Gene nz


Gene nz


On 15/03/2019 6:24 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 01:12 PM, abdul muhamin wrote:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Blind/comments/b11tcr/image_describer_nvda_addon/
For some reason that link didn't "linkify" in your original message, so I'm repeating it here.  The actual download page for the add on is listed here:  http://www.screenreader.ai/ 

This topic is again giving me the chance to call on the powers that be that control the NVDA Add-Ons pages to create a third one under the hierarchy:  Community Developed but Unvetted.   There are scads of NVDA Add-Ons that get mentioned in passing over time and I have little doubt that a number of the individuals who've developed same would jump at the chance to have their work listed in a central repository just like the Stable Add-Ons and Add-Ons Under Development pages at https://addons.nvda-project.org/index.en.html.   It can be made perfectly clear by the chosen page title or text at the top of said page that use of these add-ons is entirely "at your own risk" and they have not passed any official vetting process.   So many of them are just great, and work just fine.   A mechanism on that page should also exist for reporting back if something has broken, not because those maintaining the page will fix the add-on itself, but it might be noted and/or delisted entirely if that persists.

 
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A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 

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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
 
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa).
To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
 

To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
 
To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
 
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa).
To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
 

To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
 
To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

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Re: nvda mouse tracking problem on google chrome browsers on laptops

Vytautas Ziedelis
 

thanks for your answer. i will try with default nvda configuration  both of my laptops are dell  actually so maby it could be the drivers problem. hmm. 


Re: image describer addon for NVDA

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

hi


it also does not show under the nvda user configuration directory as a add on either. so I am guessing it just did not install unless it was compatible with this version.


Did any one get it to work in earlier versions of nvda? and if so how did you do it?

Was it just a matter of installing the add on and using the shortcut or did you have to sign up so you could use it?


I did a while ago see reference to this add on which did have more information but do not know where it has gone.


Gene nz


On 15/03/2019 10:23 AM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi


Just tried it. It does not show up under the add on manager as a add on so apart from the shortcut given on one of the pages there is no real way to see if there are any steps missed to make it work. it also does not show up any where else. has any one else got it to work? If it does work it will need to be updated so it works with the latest version of nvda.


I just got to remember how to remove the ones with out it be shown in the add on manager. maybe more info can be found under the explore user configuration directory i think it is called.


Gene nz


Gene nz


On 15/03/2019 6:24 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 01:12 PM, abdul muhamin wrote:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Blind/comments/b11tcr/image_describer_nvda_addon/
For some reason that link didn't "linkify" in your original message, so I'm repeating it here.  The actual download page for the add on is listed here:  http://www.screenreader.ai/ 

This topic is again giving me the chance to call on the powers that be that control the NVDA Add-Ons pages to create a third one under the hierarchy:  Community Developed but Unvetted.   There are scads of NVDA Add-Ons that get mentioned in passing over time and I have little doubt that a number of the individuals who've developed same would jump at the chance to have their work listed in a central repository just like the Stable Add-Ons and Add-Ons Under Development pages at https://addons.nvda-project.org/index.en.html.   It can be made perfectly clear by the chosen page title or text at the top of said page that use of these add-ons is entirely "at your own risk" and they have not passed any official vetting process.   So many of them are just great, and work just fine.   A mechanism on that page should also exist for reporting back if something has broken, not because those maintaining the page will fix the add-on itself, but it might be noted and/or delisted entirely if that persists.

 
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A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 

--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
 
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa).
To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
 

To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
 
To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
 
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa).
To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
 

To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
 
To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: image describer addon for NVDA

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


Just tried it. It does not show up under the add on manager as a add on so apart from the shortcut given on one of the pages there is no real way to see if there are any steps missed to make it work. it also does not show up any where else. has any one else got it to work? If it does work it will need to be updated so it works with the latest version of nvda.


I just got to remember how to remove the ones with out it be shown in the add on manager. maybe more info can be found under the explore user configuration directory i think it is called.


Gene nz


Gene nz


On 15/03/2019 6:24 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Thu, Mar 14, 2019 at 01:12 PM, abdul muhamin wrote:
https://www.reddit.com/r/Blind/comments/b11tcr/image_describer_nvda_addon/
For some reason that link didn't "linkify" in your original message, so I'm repeating it here.  The actual download page for the add on is listed here:  http://www.screenreader.ai/ 

This topic is again giving me the chance to call on the powers that be that control the NVDA Add-Ons pages to create a third one under the hierarchy:  Community Developed but Unvetted.   There are scads of NVDA Add-Ons that get mentioned in passing over time and I have little doubt that a number of the individuals who've developed same would jump at the chance to have their work listed in a central repository just like the Stable Add-Ons and Add-Ons Under Development pages at https://addons.nvda-project.org/index.en.html.   It can be made perfectly clear by the chosen page title or text at the top of said page that use of these add-ons is entirely "at your own risk" and they have not passed any official vetting process.   So many of them are just great, and work just fine.   A mechanism on that page should also exist for reporting back if something has broken, not because those maintaining the page will fix the add-on itself, but it might be noted and/or delisted entirely if that persists.

 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 

--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
 
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa).
To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
 

To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
 
To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: help

 

Used to happen a lot when you didn'

't have ssl and were trying to handle mail remotely.

Google had an outage a couple days ago so did facebook and other google sites.

I am fine but others may have issues.

Your isp may or may not use google for something so thats why you may be bouncing.

I had the entire net drop out completely because the gogle datacentre had a hardware issue so it can happen with cloud networks.



On 15/03/2019 2:38 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Unbounce messages will be automatically generated if your e-mail service provider is detected as having bounced what would have been your incoming messages from groups.io.   The links to unbounce are perfectly safe, and if you don't activate them your e-mail from groups.io will not be making it to you until or unless you do.

A bounce is pretty much a "return to sender" event that Groups.io can detect.

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A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: Microsofts latest accessibility blog post.

Devin Prater
 

Oh yes, I love the tell me feature. I used it a lot when I had to learn to use Powerpoint and Ex-ell.
Devin Pratersent from Gmail.


On Wed, Mar 13, 2019 at 2:42 PM Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
The smaller ribbon is way behind schedule, as it was supposed to debut last year.

That being said, for those who don't already know how to use the ribbon interface they're still going to have to learn.  This is just a "ribbon lite" where a number of the options currently shown will not be shown.  You will still navigate the smaller ribbon just like the larger one, there will just be fewer controls visible by default within each control group.   See:  Using the Ribbon Interface in Windows via the Keyboard

The standard menu is never coming back.  Also, I know of few users who actually brute force traverse the ribbon or menu system once they know how to perform their most commonly used functions via key press sequences.  The need to hunt through seldom occurs except for seldom used functions.  Also, the advent of the "Tell me what you want to do" function (ALT+Q), which is very much akin to the search function in Windows 10 Settings, but for the Office program you're using, generally lets you find those obscure controls much more quickly if you have the vaguest idea of either what they're called or can give a natural language description of what you're trying to do.
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A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

George McCoy <slr1bpz@...>
 

That didn't help on my systems and doing that removes all notifications about changes made to any shared folders you may have.


George

On 3/13/2019 2:13 PM, Richard Bartholomew wrote:
Try unchecking all notifications in the Dropbox preferences - this is how I have things and I've never seen this window - mind you, this is under Windows 10 and not 7!


-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sile via Groups.Io
Sent: 13 March 2019 16:05
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

Yes, it is happening to me on Windows 7. It is extremely frustrating because I can't dismiss these dialog boxes and they pop up while I am teaching and using ppt ...


Please, someone, tell me how to make them stop. I can't uninstall dropbox as I use it all the time for manageing uploads and downloads from our CMS,


--Sile


On 3/13/2019 11:54 AM, Gene wrote:
I wonder if this happens on other versions of Windows than Windows 10. I use Windows 7. I don't have Drop Box start on boot up, but when I run Drop Box, I don't have this problem and if I let it run for considerable periods of time, I don't have the problem.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 10:19 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups


Mine appears sometimes every 15 to 20 minutes, sometimes every hour, sometimes never throughout the day. I could be in my flight sim and get the pop ups. And that's when the trouble starts especially if I'm trying to land. I'm glad they are finally looking into this.

On 12 Mar 2019, at 21:58, Ron Canazzi wrote:

Hi Group,




While this Drop Box issue is an annoyance, it goes away within a few minutes after system boot on my computer. Are others having the phantom windows stay visible indefinitely?




On 3/12/2019 10:57 PM, Gene wrote:

I'm sure if the program weren't running, you wouldn't get such notifications. But some people want the program to be constantly running and for those people this would be a problem. And even if you have the program run at boot up, you can close it in the system tray.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Annette Moore
Sent: Tuesday, March 12, 2019 9:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups


Would simply disabling it from Startup stop these invisible Dropbox windows from popping up?, or would the notifications also need to be turned off?

Annette


On 3/12/2019 8:17 PM, Curtis Delzer wrote:

it certainly is, and until you turn off drop box, though you might like to know if a friend or colleague sends you stuff or gets stuff, you have to put up with this s**t.


On 3/11/2019 12:52 PM, Lino Morales wrote:

Its annoying as hell.



Sent from Mail for Windows 10





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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Sam Bushman <libertyroundtable@gmail.com>
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 3:50:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups

That is correct – it’s not a notification. It is a box that comes up over and over though.





From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of George McCoy
Sent: Monday, March 11, 2019 1:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups



For me, this is not a notification. It looks exactly like the screen that comes up when I click the dropbox button in the system tray/user notifications area of windows 10.



George

On 3/11/2019 11:11 AM, Dave Grossoehme wrote:

Good Morning: I read this information a little late. However, I check notifications, which are in settings and the notification for Drop Box is uncheck.

Dave



On 2/25/2019 5:10 AM, Gene wrote:

Has anyone looked through options in Dropbox to see if anything is available about not showing notifications or messages? These are, presumably, shown in the system tray. I almost never use DropBox, though I have it, and I usually don't have it running. I don't know if I have the latest version. But the first thing I would do is look through the options to see if anything is available. I may check later today but it might be better if someone checks who uses it regularly, and knows they have the problem version. Presumably, I either do or it would update if I leave it on.



Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io

Sent: Monday, February 25, 2019 3:18 AM

To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups



The whole thrust of it for us is that you can hear when new updates come in.
To try to schedule everything at the studio will cause our non tech folk a
problem
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 3:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups


Is there any reason to have it running constantly? You can exit it and only
run it when you want to use it.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: James Scholes
Sent: Sunday, February 24, 2019 9:32 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Invisible Dropbox pop-ups


Hi all,

I'm running Dropbox v68.3.92. Approximately every half an hour or so,
NVDA's focus is being moved to a Dropbox window which only seems to
contain a single, blank edit field. The window doesn't seem to stay on
the screen, but focus isn't returned to where it was previously after it
disappears. In fact, NVDA reports it as taking up a rectangle of 0
pixels, so I don't know if anything shows up visually on the screen at all.

As you can imagine, having to dismiss these boxes several times per day
is irritating. Does anybody have a work-around?

Regards,

James Scholes
https://twitter.com/JamesScholes












Question about Firefox and nvda

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Hi, I just decided to go to about and the whats new in Firefox option. I went to the show the complete list of bug fixes. It said loading document, but that was it. I could get to the desktop, but no response from Firefox in nvda after that, the log seems to just show the keys being pressed.
What format is this file trying to display in? It is obviously not one nvda knows about as even screen nave gives the old null context handle passed error in nvda latest version. On Jaws 2018 it still allows the menu bar and things to be selected unlike nvda, but the screen is still blank and all you can do is close Firefox.
Interesting. This is the new release 66, not tried it previously so I do not know what used to happen.
Brian

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NVDA labeling controls guide for developers?

Joshua Tubbs
 

Hi all,

I'm not a developer myself, but I'm in communication with a developer
trying to make his app accessible, and isn't having much luck labeling
his controls to read using NVDA.

Can anyone point me to a guide on how to do this in general? This is
the first time he's trying to make his controls accessible, so help
for all screen readers would be helpful, not just NVDA.

Thanks.


Re: Problems With Weather Plus New Add On

Ron Canazzi
 

OK, My city is Cheektowaga USNY

Here is the copy of my forecast with the check box unchecked.

See how the commas appear and this is what is read.


In Cheektowaga, , the weather report is currently 66 degrees Fahrenheit, partly cloudy.
The wind direction is from south southwest with speed of 12.56 miles per hour.
The perceived temperature is 66 degrees.
The humidity is 43%, and the visibility is up to 9.95 miles.
The cloudiness is 75%, and the precipitation is 0 inches.
The pressure is 29.83 inches of mercury.
The sun rises at 07:29 AM and sets at 07:20 PM.
The moon rises at 12:10 PM and sets at 02:31 AM.


On 3/14/2019 11:57 AM, Adriano Barbieri via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi Ron,


What city are we talking about?

I have tried  and the comma is not pronounced when disabled.

You can very well try to paste the text (if you have activated the checkbox: copy to clipboard) and see if there are commas in the values.

In this new API the barometric status does not exist, but we can be be satisfied anyway, what do you say? :)

Anyway tomorrow I have to update that fixes to minor bugs, so if I have time to try your city it would be better.

Thank you


Regards

Adriano


Il 14/03/2019 15:48, Ron Canazzi ha scritto:
Hi Group,


I am getting odd readings from this new server for the Weather Pulse Add on.  For example, on my own city, I am getting a wind speed of 88 MPH.  It is actually 8 MPH.  I have seen this with some of the other world cities that I have included in my alternative cities list.


In addition, while the barometer readings are showing up properly, the state of the barometer is not being read--as in steady, rising or falling.


Using the older server, the barometric state was read, but for some reason, in my area, it never read anything else except steady--regardless of what was being stated on NOA radio or other apps.


And the comma delimited setting does not work on mmy system. That is to say, the check box is uncecked, but I still hear commas separating everything.


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They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"


Re: a way to lock the nvda key?

Chris
 

Maybe one of the addon developers can create a addon not too much unlike the num lock addon for example

 

Just a thought

 

 

From: Sarah k Alawami
Sent: 14 March 2019 17:48
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] a way to lock the nvda key?

 

Which is why I'm suggesting g a key stroke to do this. If I hit vo semi it will lock the vo keys. Hitting vo semi again and not just semi will unlock the vo keys. So this should in theory be possible in nvda. Hitting nvda plus something would cause the key to lock, hitting that same key again would cause nvda's modifier to unlock.

 

On 14 Mar 2019, at 10:37, Gene wrote:

How would you lock it, however, without using sticky keys in general?  Using sticky keys, you can lock it as you can any sticky key but my understanding is that the desire is to have only that key be locked. 

 

NVDA, if you press the modifier twice, passes the second command to Windows, so if you press insert twice, you have pressed it once, as far as Windows is concerned.  If you press caps lock twice, you lock or unlock caps lock because you have actually passed the keystroke to Windows once.  So some other means of locking the key would be wanted because you wouldn't want to lose that ability.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 12:28 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] a way to lock the nvda key?

 

Locking the NVDA key is most certainly possible, it has nothing to do
with whether it's a microsoft program or another one, it's just a matter
of keyboard interception, which is something NVDA already does.

On 3/14/2019 12:37 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
> But is this not part of Mac OS to start with? I'm not sure if the
> Windows system allows  external software to act this way. After all
> voice over is an apple program but nvda is not made by Microsoft.
> Brian
>
> bglists@...
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal E-mail to:-
> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
> in the display name field.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 3:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [nvda] a way to lock the nvda key?
>
>
>> I want to lock the modifier what ever that is in terms of nvda. After
>> all, I can  do it in vo with the capslock or the vo keys with one key
>> stroke, all the modifiers are locked no matter what I choose and I can
>> just press let's ssay shift down to interact etc or f to find somethingn
>> or g to find next. Look, one hand. Lol! I want to do this in nvda to
>> make some of the command seaiser especially when I'm doing  a lot  at
>> once.
>>
>> Take care
>>
>> On 14 Mar 2019, at 1:15, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
>>
>>> I think the person wanted it on caps lock but that key is already
>>> multi purpose for caps so adding even more confusion might be a bit
>>> like jumping out of the frying pan into the fire, so to speak.
>>>
>>> This is almost where some kind of hardware device would be handy to
>>> be used to  stick on and turn off a programmed set off keys .
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> bglists@...
>>> Sent via blueyonder.
>>> Please address personal E-mail to:-
>>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
>>> in the display name field.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Vogel"
>>> <britechguy@...>
>>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 9:05 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] a way to lock the nvda key?
>>>
>>>
>>> As has already been mentioned, Sticky Keys is toggle-able, and almost
>>> everyone I know who uses it does just that. Even though the default
>>> toggle is five sequential presses of the SHIFT key, that can be done
>>> very quickly.
>>>
>>> The message when toggling says it affects CTRL, SHIFT, ALT, and
>>> WinKey. I just tested it though, with the NumPad Insert when in NVDA
>>> and it was sticky-ing it, too, as you get a tone when that's active.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Brian *-* Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763
>>>
>>> *A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the
>>> need for illusion is deep.*
>>>
>>> ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>


 


Re: a way to lock the nvda key?

Sarah k Alawami
 

Which is why I'm suggesting g a key stroke to do this. If I hit vo semi it will lock the vo keys. Hitting vo semi again and not just semi will unlock the vo keys. So this should in theory be possible in nvda. Hitting nvda plus something would cause the key to lock, hitting that same key again would cause nvda's modifier to unlock.


On 14 Mar 2019, at 10:37, Gene wrote:

How would you lock it, however, without using sticky keys in general?  Using sticky keys, you can lock it as you can any sticky key but my understanding is that the desire is to have only that key be locked. 
 
NVDA, if you press the modifier twice, passes the second command to Windows, so if you press insert twice, you have pressed it once, as far as Windows is concerned.  If you press caps lock twice, you lock or unlock caps lock because you have actually passed the keystroke to Windows once.  So some other means of locking the key would be wanted because you wouldn't want to lose that ability.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a way to lock the nvda key?

Locking the NVDA key is most certainly possible, it has nothing to do
with whether it's a microsoft program or another one, it's just a matter
of keyboard interception, which is something NVDA already does.

On 3/14/2019 12:37 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
> But is this not part of Mac OS to start with? I'm not sure if the
> Windows system allows  external software to act this way. After all
> voice over is an apple program but nvda is not made by Microsoft.
> Brian
>
> bglists@...
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal E-mail to:-
> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
> in the display name field.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 3:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [nvda] a way to lock the nvda key?
>
>
>> I want to lock the modifier what ever that is in terms of nvda. After
>> all, I can  do it in vo with the capslock or the vo keys with one key
>> stroke, all the modifiers are locked no matter what I choose and I can
>> just press let's ssay shift down to interact etc or f to find somethingn
>> or g to find next. Look, one hand. Lol! I want to do this in nvda to
>> make some of the command seaiser especially when I'm doing  a lot  at
>> once.
>>
>> Take care
>>
>> On 14 Mar 2019, at 1:15, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
>>
>>> I think the person wanted it on caps lock but that key is already
>>> multi purpose for caps so adding even more confusion might be a bit
>>> like jumping out of the frying pan into the fire, so to speak.
>>>
>>> This is almost where some kind of hardware device would be handy to
>>> be used to  stick on and turn off a programmed set off keys .
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> bglists@...
>>> Sent via blueyonder.
>>> Please address personal E-mail to:-
>>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
>>> in the display name field.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Vogel"
>>> <britechguy@...>
>>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 9:05 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] a way to lock the nvda key?
>>>
>>>
>>> As has already been mentioned, Sticky Keys is toggle-able, and almost
>>> everyone I know who uses it does just that. Even though the default
>>> toggle is five sequential presses of the SHIFT key, that can be done
>>> very quickly.
>>>
>>> The message when toggling says it affects CTRL, SHIFT, ALT, and
>>> WinKey. I just tested it though, with the NumPad Insert when in NVDA
>>> and it was sticky-ing it, too, as you get a tone when that's active.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Brian *-* Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763
>>>
>>> *A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the
>>> need for illusion is deep.*
>>>
>>> ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>




Re: getting a weird message when I try to read some messages in thunderbird

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

That was a good one!

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Curtis Delzer
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 10:16 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] getting a weird message when I try to read some messagesin thunderbird

 

if you find that answer, pass it along. :) or, don't bo-gart that joint, :) pass it over ta me. :)

(couldn't help myself.)

On 3/14/2019 3:03 AM, Robert Doc Wright godfearer wrote:

Hurray! I have been using the mail app for over a year now. My only hope is that someone discovers a way to create a hot key to jump me to the list of accounts, I have five, and back to the list of emails.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 11:40 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] getting a weird message when I try to read some messagesin thunderbird

 

I decided to switch to the mail app because it’s not sluggish. So-far it’s working great for me.

 

 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Brian Moore
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 2:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] getting a weird message when I try to read some messagesin thunderbird

 

close it and open it again.  Typically, this is when the message hasn't

downloaded from the imap server.  If connection is slow or the server is

stuck or something, this will happen.

 

 

On 3/13/2019 5:06 PM, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:

> some times this can happen read in plain text or hit escape and open

> it again.

> On 3/13/2019 4:17 AM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:

>> Hi, everyone,

>> 

>> 

>> I was trying to read some messages in thunderbird. Here's the message

>> I get.

>> 

>> 

>> imap://knitqueen2007%40gmail%2Ecom@...:993/fetch%3EUID%3E/INBOX%3E249299How

>> do I solve this? Thanks for your help in advance.

>> 

>> 

>> Rosemarie

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>

 

 

 

 

-- 
 
 
Curtis Delzer 
HS
W B 6 H E F
Rialto, CA
 

 


Re: help

 

Jim,

           No problem, really.  Everyone's a neophyte at something at one time or another.

           But take Gene's point to heart, too, and not just here.  For something like this, including a copy of the link received can help others who want to help you.  Sometimes just by seeing a link one can get a very good idea of whether it's legit or not just from having dealt with this sort of stuff for a very long time.

            Requests for assistance with problems related to the group itself are definitely allowed (nay, encouraged) when issues arise.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: a way to lock the nvda key?

Gene
 

How would you lock it, however, without using sticky keys in general?  Using sticky keys, you can lock it as you can any sticky key but my understanding is that the desire is to have only that key be locked. 
 
NVDA, if you press the modifier twice, passes the second command to Windows, so if you press insert twice, you have pressed it once, as far as Windows is concerned.  If you press caps lock twice, you lock or unlock caps lock because you have actually passed the keystroke to Windows once.  So some other means of locking the key would be wanted because you wouldn't want to lose that ability.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 12:28 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a way to lock the nvda key?

Locking the NVDA key is most certainly possible, it has nothing to do
with whether it's a microsoft program or another one, it's just a matter
of keyboard interception, which is something NVDA already does.

On 3/14/2019 12:37 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
> But is this not part of Mac OS to start with? I'm not sure if the
> Windows system allows  external software to act this way. After all
> voice over is an apple program but nvda is not made by Microsoft.
> Brian
>
> bglists@...
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal E-mail to:-
> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
> in the display name field.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 3:40 PM
> Subject: Re: [nvda] a way to lock the nvda key?
>
>
>> I want to lock the modifier what ever that is in terms of nvda. After
>> all, I can  do it in vo with the capslock or the vo keys with one key
>> stroke, all the modifiers are locked no matter what I choose and I can
>> just press let's ssay shift down to interact etc or f to find somethingn
>> or g to find next. Look, one hand. Lol! I want to do this in nvda to
>> make some of the command seaiser especially when I'm doing  a lot  at
>> once.
>>
>> Take care
>>
>> On 14 Mar 2019, at 1:15, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
>>
>>> I think the person wanted it on caps lock but that key is already
>>> multi purpose for caps so adding even more confusion might be a bit
>>> like jumping out of the frying pan into the fire, so to speak.
>>>
>>> This is almost where some kind of hardware device would be handy to
>>> be used to  stick on and turn off a programmed set off keys .
>>> Brian
>>>
>>> bglists@...
>>> Sent via blueyonder.
>>> Please address personal E-mail to:-
>>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
>>> in the display name field.
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Vogel"
>>> <britechguy@...>
>>> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 9:05 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [nvda] a way to lock the nvda key?
>>>
>>>
>>> As has already been mentioned, Sticky Keys is toggle-able, and almost
>>> everyone I know who uses it does just that. Even though the default
>>> toggle is five sequential presses of the SHIFT key, that can be done
>>> very quickly.
>>>
>>> The message when toggling says it affects CTRL, SHIFT, ALT, and
>>> WinKey. I just tested it though, with the NumPad Insert when in NVDA
>>> and it was sticky-ing it, too, as you get a tone when that's active.
>>>
>>> --
>>>
>>> Brian *-* Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763
>>>
>>> *A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the
>>> need for illusion is deep.*
>>>
>>> ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>




Re: help

Gene
 

The reason you need to specify things is that it can't be assumed what is occurring.  The message did say that but if it were spam, it might have said that anyway to encourage people to follow the link.  So it couldn't be determined if you were having delivery problems and that made it harder to definitely answer the question of whether the message was spam.  Once I knew that you hadn't been receiving list mail, I knew that the message was legitimate.
 
Its always better to include too much information.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 10:14 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] help

You hadn't indicated, as I recall, that you had been having delivery problems from groups io lists.  That is very important.  When reporting a problem, don't leave out information unless it is clear beyond a doubt that it is irrelevant.  Groups.io sends unbounce messages to anyone who is bouncing.  If your account is bouncing, you won't receive some or all messages from the list serve from which it is bouncing.  Your e-mail is back so you are again receiving list mail.  The link was legitimate.
 
The reason you don't see a Groups.io part of the address must be because it isn't used in the unbounce links.  While you would expect to see a groups.io address, now you know what the Internet site is that is used in such links from Groups.io.  it's evidently the domain of the actual overall web site, like Go Daddy. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 7:08 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] help

Hello Gene and others who answered, thank you all for your comments,.
I did as Gene suggested and tried to copy the link, copy was unavailable, so I did copy shortcut, this is below, it misses out the https// groups io bit but here is the link below for any further comments and maybe help for others
 
 
My e mails are back, so it seems to have worked, but the fact that I couldn’t copy the actual link is a bit of a concern.
the link put me on what seemed to be the groups i o site, I will try it another way. .
 
Best Regards, Jim.
 
From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 10:21 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] help
 
Also, you can check to see where a link came from.  Be careful, because spammers are making some links look a lot more like authentic links when you check the actual address.
 
If you are reading mail as HTML and see a link with words in an e-mail such as click here or unbounce, as examples, be on the link, open the context menu, and look for something like copy link or copy link location, the wording will vary according to the program.  Press enter on it.  the link will be copied to the clipboard.
Open Notepad, paste in the link, and look at the actual address.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: wayne
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 7:05 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] help
 
Jim, if the message came from groups.io, you're okay. It sounds as if that the message was from groups.io so you have nothing to worry about.
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 2:35 AM
Subject: [nvda] help
 
Hello,
I have received a message purporting to come from Groups IO, it says that my messages are bouncing and I will not receive messages from freelists that I am subscribed to.
I stupidly clicked on a link in the message and, after reading what was in my browser, it said that I had been unbounced.
There’s no fool like an old fool they say, so, if anyone is reading this who can get in touch with Groups IO, I would be grateful for any help, I just hope that my e mail address has not been hacked.
Best Regards, Jim.


Re: a way to lock the nvda key?

Travis Siegel <tsiegel@...>
 

Locking the NVDA key is most certainly possible, it has nothing to do with whether it's a microsoft program or another one, it's just a matter of keyboard interception, which is something NVDA already does.

On 3/14/2019 12:37 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
But is this not part of Mac OS to start with? I'm not sure if the Windows system allows  external software to act this way. After all voice over is an apple program but nvda is not made by Microsoft.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, March 14, 2019 3:40 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a way to lock the nvda key?


I want to lock the modifier what ever that is in terms of nvda. After
all, I can  do it in vo with the capslock or the vo keys with one key
stroke, all the modifiers are locked no matter what I choose and I can
just press let's ssay shift down to interact etc or f to find somethingn
or g to find next. Look, one hand. Lol! I want to do this in nvda to
make some of the command seaiser especially when I'm doing  a lot  at
once.

Take care

On 14 Mar 2019, at 1:15, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

I think the person wanted it on caps lock but that key is already
multi purpose for caps so adding even more confusion might be a bit
like jumping out of the frying pan into the fire, so to speak.

This is almost where some kind of hardware device would be handy to
be used to  stick on and turn off a programmed set off keys .
Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Vogel"
<britechguy@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, March 13, 2019 9:05 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] a way to lock the nvda key?


As has already been mentioned, Sticky Keys is toggle-able, and almost
everyone I know who uses it does just that. Even though the default
toggle is five sequential presses of the SHIFT key, that can be done
very quickly.

The message when toggling says it affects CTRL, SHIFT, ALT, and
WinKey. I just tested it though, with the NumPad Insert when in NVDA
and it was sticky-ing it, too, as you get a tone when that's active.

--

Brian *-* Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763

*A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the
need for illusion is deep.*

~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back