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Re: Microsoft Narrator VS NVDA

Ján Kulik
 

However, the behavior during site navigation is a bit different than NVDA. I wanted to get through the narrator to navigate the site so reading the links is almost the same as with NVDA but switching between the forms so Narator has a problem. At least that's how I see it.


Re: Microsoft Narrator VS NVDA

Kevin Cussick
 

I am the same but at some point I will get down and dirty with narrator, as I have been meaning to do this folks, please remember Narrator is getting there it might b e a viable screen reader in a few versions of windows yet.

On 3/18/2019 10:23 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Most of the time I use NVDA but I have used narrator to get me out of jams from time to time.
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Don H
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 2:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft Narrator VS NVDA
Although Narrator is getting better NVDA still works much better on the things I do.
On 3/18/2019 4:49 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
I have edited the topic here, and also on the Windows 10 forum, to reflect Narrator and NVDA.


trying to find an older message in the windows 10 mail app

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, everyone,

 

I’m trying to find an older message from a pen pal in the windows 10 mail app. How do you do a search?

 

Thanks in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

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Re: Learning page number in MS Word

Abbie Taylor
 

You don't need to number pages in Word in order for NVDA to read them. As you read through a document, you'll automatically hear the page numbers when navigating to the next page, whether you're using the Say All command or reading by line, paragraph, sentence, or other elements. As I said earlier, if you need to know what page you're on, simply press NVDA plus Home to read the status bar.
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Re: Microsoft Narrator VS NVDA

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Most of the time I use NVDA but I have used narrator to get me out of jams from time to time.

 

 

 

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From: Don H
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 2:54 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft Narrator VS NVDA

 

Although Narrator is getting better NVDA still works much better on the things I do.

On 3/18/2019 4:49 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:

I have edited the topic here, and also on the Windows 10 forum, to reflect Narrator and NVDA.

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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 

 


Re: Microsoft Narrator VS NVDA

Brice Mijares
 

You do mean Narrator? NVDA 99 percent of the time, then Narrator.

On 3/18/2019 2:31 PM, J�n Kulik wrote:
Hi everyone,
I just want to know what voice program you use most often. NVDA or Moderator? I'm impressed with your opinion. It is true that when I used the Moderator program and went to browse the Google chrome website, for example Facebook, there is somewhat different than NVDA.
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Re: Microsoft Narrator VS NVDA

Don H
 

Although Narrator is getting better NVDA still works much better on the things I do.

On 3/18/2019 4:49 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
I have edited the topic here, and also on the Windows 10 forum, to reflect Narrator and NVDA.

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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: Microsoft Narrator VS NVDA

 

I have edited the topic here, and also on the Windows 10 forum, to reflect Narrator and NVDA.

--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: Microsoft Narrator VS NVDA

Ján Kulik
 

Moderator is a Microsoft interface narrator that you can use as sapi5. Thus, it is a Microsoft speech sapy5 narrator. in other words, it converts text to speech.
Therefore, I wonder if you are using Microsoft Narator or you prefer more NVDA.


Re: Microsoft Narrator VS NVDA

Dan Beaver
 

I think they mean Narrator.


Dan

On 3/18/2019 5:34 PM, Chris via Groups.Io wrote:

What is moderator?

 

 

From: Ján Kulik
Sent: 18 March 2019 21:31
To: win10@win10.groups.io; nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Microsoft moderator VS NVDA

 

Hi everyone,

I just want to know what voice program you use most often. NVDA or Moderator? I'm impressed with your opinion. It is true that when I used the Moderator program and went to browse the Google chrome website, for example Facebook, there is somewhat different than NVDA.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

-- 
Dan Beaver (KC4DOY)


Re: Microsoft Narrator VS NVDA

Lino Morales <linomorales001@...>
 

Narrator not Moderator.

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> on behalf of Chris via Groups.Io <chrismedley@...>
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 5:34:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Microsoft moderator VS NVDA
 

What is moderator?

 

 

From: Ján Kulik
Sent: 18 March 2019 21:31
To: win10@win10.groups.io; nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Microsoft moderator VS NVDA

 

Hi everyone,

I just want to know what voice program you use most often. NVDA or Moderator? I'm impressed with your opinion. It is true that when I used the Moderator program and went to browse the Google chrome website, for example Facebook, there is somewhat different than NVDA.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Microsoft Narrator VS NVDA

Chris
 

What is moderator?

 

 

From: Ján Kulik
Sent: 18 March 2019 21:31
To: win10@win10.groups.io; nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Microsoft moderator VS NVDA

 

Hi everyone,

I just want to know what voice program you use most often. NVDA or Moderator? I'm impressed with your opinion. It is true that when I used the Moderator program and went to browse the Google chrome website, for example Facebook, there is somewhat different than NVDA.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Punctuation/Symbol pronunciation

enes sarıbaş
 

Hi Brian,

So basicly it works that if you capatilize the letters  of a word, they are read one by one. While if you write lowercase, they are read as a word. Example. vip is read as vip  however VIP is read as v i p. That is why lower case nvda isn't read as n v d a.

On 3/18/2019 3:10 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
Jackie,

           But, since virtually no one ever sets the NVDA level itself to "all," that's the reason for my little proviso in the last message, "under typical NVDA settings conditions." I think virtually anyone would be driven mad were NVDA's own level set to "all" as its default (or even temporarily).

           I thought about the dictionary, too, but wasn't sure how single characters (symbols, really) strung together would be treated.  It seems to me that the speech dictionaries use the concept of "word" and in most cases for the IPA reading we want character by character announcement whenever an IPA word is encountered.  If each IPA symbol were a word in the dictionary it seemed to me that this would prevent the very character by character announcement in all cases that I was seeking for non-whitespace-separated sequences of the IPA symbols wherever they occurred.   Perhaps I'm mistaken about that.

           Also, as an aside, does NVDA interpret lower case single characters as sometimes being pronounced differently than uppercase?   For example, if I were to use 'a' (sans the quotes, of course) as the replacement text for something might I get "ah" being pronounced while if I were to use 'A' I'd get what you'd expect for saying the name of the letter A?    One substitution I've made long ago in my default dictionary is that 'nvda' is replaced for the synth with 'NVDA' because the two were not treated as the equivalent, and the former came out as something close to phonotactically impossible under the rules of English pronunciation.
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Microsoft Narrator VS NVDA

Ján Kulik
 

Hi everyone,

I just want to know what voice program you use most often. NVDA or Moderator? I'm impressed with your opinion. It is true that when I used the Moderator program and went to browse the Google chrome website, for example Facebook, there is somewhat different than NVDA.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10


Re: weather plus addon

David Moore
 

Hi!

I tried the weather plus add-on again today, and it says that the temperatures are much higher than they really are.

For example, in Columbus, it says the temp is 93 degrees.

All of the information is wrong for every city I check around the world.

I did everything correctly, changing everything to the knew API.

Is anyone having trouble in the United States with this?

Is anyone using the add-on in the united states who can tell me how the information for every city is being given to them?

Have a great one, guys, and thanks for what you are doing!

David Moore

 

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From: Don H
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 10:12 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] weather plus addon

 

I wonder if it is a simple case of decimal points being missed.

 

On 3/18/2019 9:05 AM, Richard Wells wrote:

> Yeah, I got wind speed out of the north-east at 88 miles per hour a

> couple days ago. It was totally calm outside. I don't think this is

> the fault of the add-on; it is most likely the data it is receiving

> which cannot be controlled by the author.

> On 3/18/2019 8:34 AM, Don H wrote:

>> I really appreciate all the effort that went into bring the weather

>> plus addon back.  Only issue I am having is that the information it

>> shows is randomly wrong. Examples are wind speeds, visibility, and

>> rainfall are wrong.

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>

 

 

 

 


Re: Punctuation/Symbol pronunciation

enes sarıbaş
 

Hi Brian,

From the exchange here, I think the answer to your question is none. If you set the symbols to none, they will never be ignored, and always spoken, which is why the fractions are set at this level.

On 3/18/2019 2:18 AM, Brian Vogel wrote:
I need to step away from this for the evening.  I have a history as a programmer and I still cannot comprehend in which orders these levels ensure that something is said versus when it isn't.

Based on Tony's description these seem to be "skip speaking the item levels," with none meaning always spoken, while what I'm getting from your description is the opposite.

It would be so much easier for me if these were numbers rather than English descriptions.   At least then the hierarchy order would be clear.

In any case, my main concern at the moment is if one has a series of symbols that compose a word, but those symbols are not letters, and you want to be certain that these symbols are always spoken each and every time they're encountered, what does one set the level to in order to ensure that.  They'd never be passed to the synth since it's the symbol name (replacement text) that will need to be spoken.
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

A great deal of intelligence can be invested in ignorance when the need for illusion is deep.

          ~ Saul Bellow, To Jerusalem and Back

 

 


Re: NVDA reading PowerPoint slide titles twice

molly the blind tech lover
 

I don’t think it’s supposed to read the title twice. I really dislike powerpoints.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Todd Venie
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 1:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA reading PowerPoint slide titles twice

 

Hello Everyone,

 

Is NVDA supposed to read each title of a PowerPoint slide twice? By default, it is reading the slide title twice at the beginning of each slide. I changed the order of the objects in the selection pane, but that only changed when it read the title for the second time. Is there a way to edit my slides so that NVDA will read the slide titles only once?

 

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

 

 

Todd Venie

Assistant Dean and Director for the Library and Information Technology Services

Professor of Professional Practice

LSU Paul M. Hebert Law Center
L114, 1 East Campus Drive, Baton Rouge, LA 70803
office 225-578-4952 | fax 225-578-5773
tvenie@... | www.law.lsu.edu

 


Re: NVDA reading PowerPoint slide titles twice

Todd Venie <tvenie@...>
 

Hello Everyone,

 

Is NVDA supposed to read each title of a PowerPoint slide twice? By default, it is reading the slide title twice at the beginning of each slide. I changed the order of the objects in the selection pane, but that only changed when it read the title for the second time. Is there a way to edit my slides so that NVDA will read the slide titles only once?

 

Thanks in advance for any help.

 

 

 

Todd Venie

Assistant Dean and Director for the Library and Information Technology Services

Professor of Professional Practice

LSU Paul M. Hebert Law Center
L114, 1 East Campus Drive, Baton Rouge, LA 70803
office 225-578-4952 | fax 225-578-5773
tvenie@... | www.law.lsu.edu

 


Re: question about rc1

Brian's Mail list account
 

Not quite sure what that last bit means.

At any rate its working the same here as the beta was. I also downloaded the latest alpha as a portable at the same time.
Brian

bglists@...
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Please address personal E-mail to:-
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Joseph Lee" <joseph.lee22590@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 18, 2019 5:18 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] question about rc1


Hi,

They are not really the same thing. RC1 includes localization updates provided by a group of volunteer translators, along with internal fix so code contributors can have an easier time testing their work before asking for a code review from others.

Cheers,

Joseph


Re: question about rc1

 

Hi,

They are not really the same thing. RC1 includes localization updates provided by a group of volunteer translators, along with internal fix so code contributors can have an easier time testing their work before asking for a code review from others.

Cheers,

Joseph