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Re: Odd behavior with Contact Group member list in Outlook 2016

 

On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 12:03 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
How would one rattle Microsofts cage on this.
Feedback Hub feedback as well as contacting the Microsoft Disability Answer desk.   And I'd think both would be important.

I haven't played with this with Narrator at all, so can't answer that part.
 
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Re: Windows one core voice with nvda

 

On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 11:46 AM, Christopher Bartlett wrote:
Where does one find the onecore voices?  I'm running 1903.
As was mentioned earlier, one downloads them.

Settings, Time & Language, Language Pane.   I cannot say how the links, etc., on that pane may have changed for Version 1903, as I am not doing Insider Builds these days.  In 1809 there is an Add Language button, which starts the process of selecting the language you wish to download.  If the intention is to use it with a screen reader then you have to make sure that the particular choice you're about to make has the Text-to-Speech feature associated with it.  Some do not.
 
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Re: Odd behavior with Contact Group member list in Outlook 2016

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How would one rattle Microsofts cage on this. The question is, does Narrator work?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Odd behavior with Contact Group member list in Outlook 2016


That isn't a good work around but I brought it up in case someone needs to work with a list. It sounds as though you can do so in that tedious way.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 10:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Odd behavior with Contact Group member list in Outlook 2016


Gene,

This is apparently an issue of very long standing, and it impacts JAWS, too. I added a comment to the following NVDA issue on Github:
NVDA does not read members of distribution lists in at least Outlook 2007, 2010 and 2013

This issue was opened in 2012, and was still being tracked in 2017, and I did "cage rattling" to see if anything is still being looked into with regard to it.

and there is another one, also still open, clearly related: Outlook: Distribution Lists not or incorrectly Read

I'm surprised that this has remained unresolved for this long a period, and all appearances are that it's an issue on the Outlook side, not the screen reader side.

You can jump out of the list to the list name, then back into the member list and it will read the member you were last focused on, but this is just untenable if you're working with Contact Groups (formerly Distribution Lists) of any size.

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nvda got stuck on taskbar

marvin kotler
 

Good afternoon list; marv here.  Running the latest update of nvda and windows 10.  Nvda got stuck on the taskbar and I had to restart my computer; probably a minor issue, just wanted to see if anyone else had this problem.

 

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Re: reading console output by word

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There seems to be no logic to the times it happens though. I have a number of batch files and in the main its fine, but every so often its not.. Very strange goings on.
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Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] reading console output by word


Invite me for the party! I'm not that much time into it, but surely I
witnessed many many cases of the very same complaint LOL

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Em 27/03/2019 11:44, Felix G. disse:
Hi,
soon we'll be able to celebrate its 10th anniversary:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/513
Best,
Felix

Am Mi., 27. März 2019 um 14:25 Uhr schrieb Tyler Spivey <tspivey@...>:
Turn off character and word echo. If you have them on, NVDA spells
console output sometimes.
Alternatively, review manually.

On 3/27/2019 3:52 AM, John wrote:
I'd like to start programming a console application that receives and
outputs text. I wrote a little "hello world" test. the console window
opens but nvda reads the text by character instead of by word. what can
I do about this?




NVDA not reading bullets etc.

Dan Thompson
 

Hi all,

When adding bullets, NVDA doesn’t read them on some of the computers I am using with students in class and others it does. 

I have installed the reportSymbols-2.1.nvda-addon add-on and still it doesn’t announce them.

I also checked “ document formatting but didn’t find anything to help in this situation. But I am sure it is something I am not noticing.  That is why I come to you wizards.

Have a  great day.

 

Re: tabs on web page

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Is this a page we can all go and look at?
Also, it might be that the browser is important.
also I've had so called tabs that put stuff elsewhere on the page but do not indicate to the screenreader anything has changed.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 1:09 PM
Subject: [nvda] tabs on web page


I have a web site that I am accessing using Google Chrome on a Win 10 1809 system. I am using NVDA 2019.1.

The web page has a series of tabs in the middle of the page for showing the description, specs, faqs and reviews. How do I open one of these tabs? Hitting enter or space bar on them does nothing.



Re: Can't Post to Timeline with m.facebook.com

Sarah k Alawami
 

Nothingn to do with nvda. I click into the element then go back into the page and then go into the edit field. It works then.

Take care

On 27 Mar 2019, at 7:44, Abbie Taylor wrote:

Yesterday, I upgraded to the latest version of NVDA. This morning, when I tried to post on my timeline with m.facebook.com, the element “what’s on your mind” didn’t work. I tried pressing Enter and accessing it with object navigation, but nothing happened. This element worked before the latest update, so I’m not sure what to think.

 

 

 

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Re: reading console output by word

Sarah k Alawami
 

If you have key echo on turn it off. Thisis a bug that has ben around for years.

Take care

On 27 Mar 2019, at 3:52, John wrote:

I'd like to start programming a console application that receives and outputs text. I wrote a little "hello world" test. the console window opens but nvda reads the text by character instead of by word. what can I do about this?

Re: Windows one core voice with nvda

Christopher Bartlett
 

Where does one find the onecore voices?  I'm running 1903.


On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 9:24 AM Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
And after doing this you have to remember to change your synthesizer to OneCore as well.
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Re: tabs on web page

Gene
 

using default settings in NVDA, that is how you route the mouse.  Hold nnumpad insert and press divide, or slash, as it is more often called.  Then release both keys and left click the mouse with just slash.  See if that activates the tab and causes the content you want to be displayed.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Don H
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] tabs on web page

I am using the desktop keyboard setting.  I am unsure how to route the mouse.  I thought it was by using the insert and divide key on the numpad.

On 3/27/2019 10:05 AM, Gene wrote:
What keyboard layout are you using?  Do you know how to route the simulated mouse and left click it?  If you don't, ask here. 
Move to the tab you want to work with.  Route the mouse to it and left click the mouse.
There is a good chance that will cause the tab to do what you want.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Don H
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 8:09 AM
Subject: [nvda] tabs on web page

I have a web site that I am accessing using Google Chrome on a Win 10
1809 system.  I am using NVDA 2019.1.

The web page has a series of tabs in the middle of the page for showing
the description, specs, faqs and reviews.  How do I open one of these
tabs?  Hitting enter or space bar  on them does nothing.




Re: Outlook (Office 365) not reading message list in NVDA 2019.1 #winten1803

 

Corbb,

           By the way, if you have the time it's worth testing if the same issue is occurring in earlier versions of NVDA, or just 2019.1.   I was given this link yesterday to download 2018.4.1:
https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/releases/2018.4.1/nvda_2018.4.1.exe

You don't have to install it over your existing 2019.1 copy, but fire it up and have it make a portable copy instead, then fire up the portable copy.  It can help a great deal to determine if the issue has crept in with the latest release or predates it.
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Re: tabs on web page

Don H
 

I am using the desktop keyboard setting.  I am unsure how to route the mouse.  I thought it was by using the insert and divide key on the numpad.

On 3/27/2019 10:05 AM, Gene wrote:
What keyboard layout are you using?  Do you know how to route the simulated mouse and left click it?  If you don't, ask here. 
Move to the tab you want to work with.  Route the mouse to it and left click the mouse.
There is a good chance that will cause the tab to do what you want.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Don H
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 8:09 AM
Subject: [nvda] tabs on web page

I have a web site that I am accessing using Google Chrome on a Win 10
1809 system.  I am using NVDA 2019.1.

The web page has a series of tabs in the middle of the page for showing
the description, specs, faqs and reviews.  How do I open one of these
tabs?  Hitting enter or space bar  on them does nothing.




Re: Odd behavior with Contact Group member list in Outlook 2016

Gene
 

That isn't a good work around but I brought it up in case someone needs to work with a list.  It sounds as though you can do so in that tedious way.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 10:17 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Odd behavior with Contact Group member list in Outlook 2016

Gene,

          This is apparently an issue of very long standing, and it impacts JAWS, too.   I added a comment to the following NVDA issue on Github:
NVDA does not read members of distribution lists in at least Outlook 2007, 2010 and 2013

This issue was opened in 2012, and was still being tracked in 2017, and I did "cage rattling" to see if anything is still being looked into with regard to it.

and there is another one, also still open, clearly related:  Outlook: Distribution Lists not or incorrectly Read

I'm surprised that this has remained unresolved for this long a period, and all appearances are that it's an issue on the Outlook side, not the screen reader side.

You can jump out of the list to the list name, then back into the member list and it will read the member you were last focused on, but this is just untenable if you're working with Contact Groups (formerly Distribution Lists) of any size.
  
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Re: reading console output by word

John
 

Thanks Tyler, toggling NVDA+2 (speak typed characters) worked.

Re: Outlook (Office 365) not reading message list in NVDA 2019.1 #winten1803

 

Corbb,

            If you do not have an account on GitHub, I would suggest you open one.  Afterward, go to the NVDA Issue Reporting Page:  https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues

            I actually did my first two formal issue reports yesterday, and the template provided when you activate the "New Issue" button makes it very clear what you should fill in under each section heading (as appropriate, sometimes you'll skip one or more).

            If you are able to replicate the issue, and can give the steps required to do so, the best way to bring this to the attention of the NVDA developers is to open a new issue on GitHub if your search in the Filters box doesn't turn up anything currently active for the same thing.  If it does turn up an active issue, you can add a comment to it if you so desire and/or have additional information not already shared by whoever filed the issue to begin with.
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Re: Odd behavior with Contact Group member list in Outlook 2016

 

Gene,

          This is apparently an issue of very long standing, and it impacts JAWS, too.   I added a comment to the following NVDA issue on Github:
NVDA does not read members of distribution lists in at least Outlook 2007, 2010 and 2013

This issue was opened in 2012, and was still being tracked in 2017, and I did "cage rattling" to see if anything is still being looked into with regard to it.

and there is another one, also still open, clearly related:  Outlook: Distribution Lists not or incorrectly Read

I'm surprised that this has remained unresolved for this long a period, and all appearances are that it's an issue on the Outlook side, not the screen reader side.

You can jump out of the list to the list name, then back into the member list and it will read the member you were last focused on, but this is just untenable if you're working with Contact Groups (formerly Distribution Lists) of any size.
  
--

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Outlook (Office 365) not reading message list in NVDA 2019.1 #winten1803

Corbb O’Connor
 

I just installed NVDA 2019.1 and am using Outlook (as part of Office 365). I rebooted after the NVDA install, and--after opening Outlook--I down-arrow through the message list. I only hear the header rows (containing the date information) but nothing else. NVDA does not read anything as I down-arrow through the message list. Furthermore, pressing CapsLock+N while inside Outlook won't read any of the menu options. If I don't open Outlok, though, I'm able to read the NVDA menu.

I've been using NVDA for quite awhile but haven't come across a bug worthy of submitting before, so I'd appreciate any direction that you can provide.

Thanks!

Re: Odd behavior with Contact Group member list in Outlook 2016

Gene
 

What happens if you use the read current line command after you up or down arrow? 
 
If that doesn't work, though it would be very inconvenient, what happens if you up or down arrow, then alt tab out of the field, then alt tab back?
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 9:31 AM
Subject: [nvda] Odd behavior with Contact Group member list in Outlook 2016

I've now tested this with NVDA 2018.3.1 as well as 2019.1, and the results are the same.   Someone on the JAWS list is complaining about a similar behavior, so I suspect the root cause may lie with Outlook itself.   I'm curious as to whether anyone else is encountering this or has a workaround.

If you open a Contact Group (formerly known as a Distribution List) and get into the list of members, the first one on the list (or the one you land on if you're reopening one) is announced, but if you up/down arrow through the list afterward there is dead silence.  The focus is definitely moving from member to member in the list under Outlook, but NVDA's own focus is not following along, which I find incredibly odd.

I'll look on Github to see if this is a known issue, but even if it is, has someone found a workaround that allows you to review the members you have already existing in a Contract Group and delete or edit them?
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Re: Strange Behavior with Microsoft UI Automation

Abbie Taylor <abbietaylor945@...>
 

I'm also using Office 365. I've also noticed that NVDA doesn't automatically read email messages when they open, and it was my understanding that it would do this with UI Automation enabled.
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