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Re: Outlook (Office 365) not reading message list in NVDA 2019.1 #winten1803

 

I'm making a point of it now to keep a trail of the last several versions of NVDA as portables, creating each just before I apply the latest update.  It makes life much easier when one needs to check whether a bug has crept in with NVDA and, if so, which version (as there have been times when I just hadn't hit it in an earlier version because I wasn't doing whatever it is that triggers the bug).

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Re: tabs on web page

Gene
 

Down arrow from the tabs or move in any other way you want to read the material.  When you select a tab, the information on the page changes below the tabs and you read it as you do any web page information.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Don H
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 12:13 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] tabs on web page

So how do you read the info that comes up?

On 3/27/2019 11:55 AM, Gene wrote:
I just checked.  As I thought would likely happen, when you left click a tab, the text changes under the tabs. 
 
Never assume that if you don't hear speech after taking an action on a web page, that nothing has happened.
Also, If you have JAVA script disabled or are using a script blocker, I don't think the tabs will work.  I believe they are JAVA script controls.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] tabs on web page

It probably won't say anything automatically.  If you activate the tab in that way, the contents of the page may change to reflect the name of the tab.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Don H
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] tabs on web page

I am using Google Chrome and the web site is listed below.  There are
several tabs for description, specs and so on.  If I try to use insert
slash on the tab NVDA says nothing and when I follow by the left click
nothing happens.

http://sightmark.com/product.php?item=277


On 3/27/2019 10:56 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
> Is this a page we can all go and look at?
> Also, it might be that the browser is important.
> also I've had so called tabs that put stuff elsewhere on the page but
> do not indicate to the screenreader anything has changed.
> Brian
>
> bglists@...
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal E-mail to:-
> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
> in the display name field.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don H" <lmddh50@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 1:09 PM
> Subject: [nvda] tabs on web page
>
>
>> I have a web site that I am accessing using Google Chrome on a Win 10
>> 1809 system. I am using NVDA 2019.1.
>>
>> The web page has a series of tabs in the middle of the page for
>> showing the description, specs, faqs and reviews. How do I open one
>> of these tabs? Hitting enter or space bar on them does nothing.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
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>



Re: column/row headers not reading in Excel 2013

Jenine Stanley <jenine@...>
 

HI Quinton,

 

Sorry I wasn’t clear. You are correct in that when I press NVDA+Shift+c it says “Set A1 as column header. It does not read the headers when I navigate though and I will now go try your fix as I’m sure that’s what’s wrong here. I had a feeling it was a setting.

 

And this is why we love NVDA! Thanks.

 

Jenine

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen via Groups.Io
Sent: Tuesday, March 26, 2019 8:38 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] column/row headers not reading in Excel 2013

 

Hi Jenine,

 

When you say you are setting the column header with NVDA+control+c and nothing happens, do you mean NVDA reads nothing when you press NVDA+control+c to set the header, or it's not reading the header as you navigate around your spreadsheet?

 

When you press NVDA+control+c, NVDA should report: "Set A1 as start of column headers" (where I had the focus in A1 when I pressed the command).  If that isn't being read, is the focus on a cell in Excel AND you are not editing the cell?  If you have started typing something in the cell or pressed F2 to edit it, Excel will be in edit mode and you won't be able to set the header until you finish (enter) or cancel (escape) editing that cell.

 

If it's not reporting headers as you navigate, then press NVDA+control+d to open NVDA's document formatting settings, and be sure that "Row / Column headers" is checked (press alt+e until the focus jumps to that option).

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 3:54 AM Jenine Stanley <jenine@...> wrote:

I’ve had this issue since I think the last build, but am just now getting around to asking about it.

 

I use Excel 2013, Windows 10 latest public build and now NVDA 2019.1.

 

I use the command to set a column header, or row header but more often column header, and nothing happens. I’m using NVDA+shift+C.

 

This issue happens no matter the size of the spreadsheet. I’ve tried making it an official table first then choosing the column headers and that doesn’t seem to have an effect. Is there something that’s changed about Excel, a command or setting I need to change?


Otherwise, I love NVDA with Excel! Can’t say that loudly enough.

 

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Re: tabs on web page

Don H
 

So how do you read the info that comes up?

On 3/27/2019 11:55 AM, Gene wrote:
I just checked.  As I thought would likely happen, when you left click a tab, the text changes under the tabs. 
 
Never assume that if you don't hear speech after taking an action on a web page, that nothing has happened.
Also, If you have JAVA script disabled or are using a script blocker, I don't think the tabs will work.  I believe they are JAVA script controls.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] tabs on web page

It probably won't say anything automatically.  If you activate the tab in that way, the contents of the page may change to reflect the name of the tab.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Don H
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] tabs on web page

I am using Google Chrome and the web site is listed below.  There are
several tabs for description, specs and so on.  If I try to use insert
slash on the tab NVDA says nothing and when I follow by the left click
nothing happens.

http://sightmark.com/product.php?item=277


On 3/27/2019 10:56 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
> Is this a page we can all go and look at?
> Also, it might be that the browser is important.
> also I've had so called tabs that put stuff elsewhere on the page but
> do not indicate to the screenreader anything has changed.
> Brian
>
> bglists@...
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal E-mail to:-
> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
> in the display name field.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don H" <lmddh50@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 1:09 PM
> Subject: [nvda] tabs on web page
>
>
>> I have a web site that I am accessing using Google Chrome on a Win 10
>> 1809 system. I am using NVDA 2019.1.
>>
>> The web page has a series of tabs in the middle of the page for
>> showing the description, specs, faqs and reviews. How do I open one
>> of these tabs? Hitting enter or space bar on them does nothing.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>



Re: tabs on web page

Gene
 

I just checked.  As I thought would likely happen, when you left click a tab, the text changes under the tabs. 
 
Never assume that if you don't hear speech after taking an action on a web page, that nothing has happened.
Also, If you have JAVA script disabled or are using a script blocker, I don't think the tabs will work.  I believe they are JAVA script controls.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] tabs on web page

It probably won't say anything automatically.  If you activate the tab in that way, the contents of the page may change to reflect the name of the tab.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Don H
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] tabs on web page

I am using Google Chrome and the web site is listed below.  There are
several tabs for description, specs and so on.  If I try to use insert
slash on the tab NVDA says nothing and when I follow by the left click
nothing happens.

http://sightmark.com/product.php?item=277


On 3/27/2019 10:56 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
> Is this a page we can all go and look at?
> Also, it might be that the browser is important.
> also I've had so called tabs that put stuff elsewhere on the page but
> do not indicate to the screenreader anything has changed.
> Brian
>
> bglists@...
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal E-mail to:-
> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
> in the display name field.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don H" <lmddh50@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 1:09 PM
> Subject: [nvda] tabs on web page
>
>
>> I have a web site that I am accessing using Google Chrome on a Win 10
>> 1809 system. I am using NVDA 2019.1.
>>
>> The web page has a series of tabs in the middle of the page for
>> showing the description, specs, faqs and reviews. How do I open one
>> of these tabs? Hitting enter or space bar on them does nothing.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>



Re: Windows one core voice with nvda

 

Under the settings mentioned previously for Languages under Windows 10, when a language (or language pack) is selected from the list of those installed a Remove button appears.

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Re: tabs on web page

Gene
 

It probably won't say anything automatically.  If you activate the tab in that way, the contents of the page may change to reflect the name of the tab.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Don H
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 11:21 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] tabs on web page

I am using Google Chrome and the web site is listed below.  There are
several tabs for description, specs and so on.  If I try to use insert
slash on the tab NVDA says nothing and when I follow by the left click
nothing happens.

http://sightmark.com/product.php?item=277


On 3/27/2019 10:56 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
> Is this a page we can all go and look at?
> Also, it might be that the browser is important.
> also I've had so called tabs that put stuff elsewhere on the page but
> do not indicate to the screenreader anything has changed.
> Brian
>
> bglists@...
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal E-mail to:-
> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
> in the display name field.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Don H" <lmddh50@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 1:09 PM
> Subject: [nvda] tabs on web page
>
>
>> I have a web site that I am accessing using Google Chrome on a Win 10
>> 1809 system. I am using NVDA 2019.1.
>>
>> The web page has a series of tabs in the middle of the page for
>> showing the description, specs, faqs and reviews. How do I open one
>> of these tabs? Hitting enter or space bar on them does nothing.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>



Re: tabs on web page

Don H
 

I am using Google Chrome and the web site is listed below.  There are several tabs for description, specs and so on.  If I try to use insert slash on the tab NVDA says nothing and when I follow by the left click nothing happens.

http://sightmark.com/product.php?item=277

On 3/27/2019 10:56 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Is this a page we can all go and look at?
Also, it might be that the browser is important.
also I've had so called tabs that put stuff elsewhere on the page but do not indicate to the screenreader anything has changed.
Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message ----- From: "Don H" <lmddh50@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 1:09 PM
Subject: [nvda] tabs on web page


I have a web site that I am accessing using Google Chrome on a Win 10 1809 system. I am using NVDA 2019.1.

The web page has a series of tabs in the middle of the page for showing the description, specs, faqs and reviews. How do I open one of these tabs? Hitting enter or space bar on them does nothing.







Re: Windows one core voice with nvda

Bobby Vinton
 

I was wondering how to uninstall a voice pack as well because I have Linda butt she doesn't work and I need to remove the voice pack so I can reinstall it.

On 3/27/2019 12:06 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 11:46 AM, Christopher Bartlett wrote:
Where does one find the onecore voices?  I'm running 1903.
As was mentioned earlier, one downloads them.

Settings, Time & Language, Language Pane.   I cannot say how the links, etc., on that pane may have changed for Version 1903, as I am not doing Insider Builds these days.  In 1809 there is an Add Language button, which starts the process of selecting the language you wish to download.  If the intention is to use it with a screen reader then you have to make sure that the particular choice you're about to make has the Text-to-Speech feature associated with it.  Some do not.
 
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Re: Outlook (Office 365) not reading message list in NVDA 2019.1 #winten1803

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I always keep an older copy as a portable with a shortcut on the desktop with a little file to shut the running copy and start the new one. Instant comparisons.
I have not got a sub to 365, so cannot help with this current crop of problems, but Outlook seems to hav been second only to Skype for induced problems through Microsoft.
I find it amusing that using this out of date copy of Outlook Express cludged to run in windows 7, seems to have fewer problems than recent versions of paid for software or the windows email client.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Vogel" <@britechguy>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 3:31 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Outlook (Office 365) not reading message list in NVDA 2019.1 #winten1803 #winten1803


Corbb,

By the way, if you have the time it's worth testing if the same issue is occurring in earlier versions of NVDA, or just 2019.1. I was given this link yesterday to download 2018.4.1:
https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/releases/2018.4.1/nvda_2018.4.1.exe

You don't have to install it over your existing 2019.1 copy, but fire it up and have it make a portable copy instead, then fire up the portable copy. It can help a great deal to determine if the issue has crept in with the latest release or predates it.
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Re: Odd behavior with Contact Group member list in Outlook 2016

 

On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 12:03 PM, Brian's Mail list account wrote:
How would one rattle Microsofts cage on this.
Feedback Hub feedback as well as contacting the Microsoft Disability Answer desk.   And I'd think both would be important.

I haven't played with this with Narrator at all, so can't answer that part.
 
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The Internet is so big, so powerful and pointless that for some people it is a complete substitute for life.
          ~ Andrew Brown (1938-1994)

 

 

Re: Windows one core voice with nvda

 

On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 11:46 AM, Christopher Bartlett wrote:
Where does one find the onecore voices?  I'm running 1903.
As was mentioned earlier, one downloads them.

Settings, Time & Language, Language Pane.   I cannot say how the links, etc., on that pane may have changed for Version 1903, as I am not doing Insider Builds these days.  In 1809 there is an Add Language button, which starts the process of selecting the language you wish to download.  If the intention is to use it with a screen reader then you have to make sure that the particular choice you're about to make has the Text-to-Speech feature associated with it.  Some do not.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

The Internet is so big, so powerful and pointless that for some people it is a complete substitute for life.
          ~ Andrew Brown (1938-1994)

 

 

Re: Odd behavior with Contact Group member list in Outlook 2016

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

How would one rattle Microsofts cage on this. The question is, does Narrator work?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 3:30 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Odd behavior with Contact Group member list in Outlook 2016


That isn't a good work around but I brought it up in case someone needs to work with a list. It sounds as though you can do so in that tedious way.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Brian Vogel
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 10:17 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Odd behavior with Contact Group member list in Outlook 2016


Gene,

This is apparently an issue of very long standing, and it impacts JAWS, too. I added a comment to the following NVDA issue on Github:
NVDA does not read members of distribution lists in at least Outlook 2007, 2010 and 2013

This issue was opened in 2012, and was still being tracked in 2017, and I did "cage rattling" to see if anything is still being looked into with regard to it.

and there is another one, also still open, clearly related: Outlook: Distribution Lists not or incorrectly Read

I'm surprised that this has remained unresolved for this long a period, and all appearances are that it's an issue on the Outlook side, not the screen reader side.

You can jump out of the list to the list name, then back into the member list and it will read the member you were last focused on, but this is just untenable if you're working with Contact Groups (formerly Distribution Lists) of any size.

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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763

The Internet is so big, so powerful and pointless that for some people it is a complete substitute for life.
~ Andrew Brown (1938-1994)

nvda got stuck on taskbar

marvin kotler
 

Good afternoon list; marv here.  Running the latest update of nvda and windows 10.  Nvda got stuck on the taskbar and I had to restart my computer; probably a minor issue, just wanted to see if anyone else had this problem.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

Re: reading console output by word

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

There seems to be no logic to the times it happens though. I have a number of batch files and in the main its fine, but every so often its not.. Very strange goings on.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "marcio via Groups.Io" <marcinhorj21=yahoo.com.br@groups.io>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] reading console output by word


Invite me for the party! I'm not that much time into it, but surely I
witnessed many many cases of the very same complaint LOL

Cheers,
Marcio
AKA /Starboy/


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Em 27/03/2019 11:44, Felix G. disse:
Hi,
soon we'll be able to celebrate its 10th anniversary:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/513
Best,
Felix

Am Mi., 27. März 2019 um 14:25 Uhr schrieb Tyler Spivey <tspivey@...>:
Turn off character and word echo. If you have them on, NVDA spells
console output sometimes.
Alternatively, review manually.

On 3/27/2019 3:52 AM, John wrote:
I'd like to start programming a console application that receives and
outputs text. I wrote a little "hello world" test. the console window
opens but nvda reads the text by character instead of by word. what can
I do about this?




NVDA not reading bullets etc.

Dan Thompson
 

Hi all,

When adding bullets, NVDA doesn’t read them on some of the computers I am using with students in class and others it does. 

I have installed the reportSymbols-2.1.nvda-addon add-on and still it doesn’t announce them.

I also checked “ document formatting but didn’t find anything to help in this situation. But I am sure it is something I am not noticing.  That is why I come to you wizards.

Have a  great day.

 

Re: tabs on web page

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Is this a page we can all go and look at?
Also, it might be that the browser is important.
also I've had so called tabs that put stuff elsewhere on the page but do not indicate to the screenreader anything has changed.
Brian

bglists@...
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal E-mail to:-
briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.

----- Original Message -----
From: "Don H" <lmddh50@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, March 27, 2019 1:09 PM
Subject: [nvda] tabs on web page


I have a web site that I am accessing using Google Chrome on a Win 10 1809 system. I am using NVDA 2019.1.

The web page has a series of tabs in the middle of the page for showing the description, specs, faqs and reviews. How do I open one of these tabs? Hitting enter or space bar on them does nothing.



Re: Can't Post to Timeline with m.facebook.com

Sarah k Alawami
 

Nothingn to do with nvda. I click into the element then go back into the page and then go into the edit field. It works then.

Take care

On 27 Mar 2019, at 7:44, Abbie Taylor wrote:

Yesterday, I upgraded to the latest version of NVDA. This morning, when I tried to post on my timeline with m.facebook.com, the element “what’s on your mind” didn’t work. I tried pressing Enter and accessing it with object navigation, but nothing happened. This element worked before the latest update, so I’m not sure what to think.

 

 

 

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http://www.abbiejohnsontaylor.com

abbietaylor945@...

 

 

 


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Re: reading console output by word

Sarah k Alawami
 

If you have key echo on turn it off. Thisis a bug that has ben around for years.

Take care

On 27 Mar 2019, at 3:52, John wrote:

I'd like to start programming a console application that receives and outputs text. I wrote a little "hello world" test. the console window opens but nvda reads the text by character instead of by word. what can I do about this?

Re: Windows one core voice with nvda

Christopher Bartlett
 

Where does one find the onecore voices?  I'm running 1903.


On Wed, Mar 27, 2019 at 9:24 AM Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:
And after doing this you have to remember to change your synthesizer to OneCore as well.
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The Internet is so big, so powerful and pointless that for some people it is a complete substitute for life.
          ~ Andrew Brown (1938-1994)

 

 



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