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Re: Why Windows OneCore voices Over eSpeak NG

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


If you do go down the speech platform way for your windows 7 machine let us know and i can drop box the engine  or is it called the driver with all the voices it has both in english and other languages etc.


Gene nz


On 29/03/2019 7:00 AM, Monte Single wrote:

Good response.  I know some blind people listen at rates of speech over three  hundred words per minute.

Personally

  I find 175 to be pretty good for me.

Are the 1 core voices available for win 10 only or can they be used with win 7.?

Thanks,

Monte

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
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To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Why Windows OneCore voices Over eSpeak NG

 

On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 01:33 PM, Monte Single wrote:

Why do some people say the one core voices are slow? Can the speech rate be increased?

Because some people have their speech rates set up to speeds that are incomprehensible to your random listener, but perfectly comprehensible to them, and certain synthesizers do "ultra fast" better than others.   I have yet to see anyone who uses One Core (or other, for that matter) voices at something within normal limits for typical human speech rates say they're either slow or laggy.   If one wants to use ultra fast speech rates, then it narrows one's choice of synthesizers (and, probably, even voices for that synth).

Yes, speech rate can be varied for One Core voices.
 
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Re: Braille Me add-on not working

Christo de Klerk
 

What version of the firmware are you using that is causing you problems? Which version of the BrailleMe add-on are you using?

Kind regards

Christo


On 2019/03/28 02:35PM, Jenine Stanley wrote:

I’ve been having difficulty with this since the last firmware update of the Braille Me, add-on not working and display not being recognized by NVDA.

 

I’m sure this is a Braille Me issue and not and NVDA one but just wondering if anyone else has had this issue and if so, how did you resolve it?

 

I’m considering going back to factory reset and trying a reinstall of the firmware for the Braille Me. When it worked, it was beyond awesome with NVDA.

 

 

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Re: Why Windows OneCore voices Over eSpeak NG

Mohamed
 

No, OneCore voices can only be used with Windows 10, however you might be able to get some of the voices by installing Microsoft Speech Platform, though that does not include newer voices such as Mark. I believe that also suffers from the responsiveness issues of SAPI 5.

On 3/28/2019 2:00 PM, Monte Single wrote:

Good response.  I know some blind people listen at rates of speech over three  hundred words per minute.

Personally

  I find 175 to be pretty good for me.

Are the 1 core voices available for win 10 only or can they be used with win 7.?

Thanks,

Monte

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: March-28-19 11:42 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Why Windows OneCore voices Over eSpeak NG

 

On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 01:33 PM, Monte Single wrote:

Why do some people say the one core voices are slow? Can the speech rate be increased?

Because some people have their speech rates set up to speeds that are incomprehensible to your random listener, but perfectly comprehensible to them, and certain synthesizers do "ultra fast" better than others.   I have yet to see anyone who uses One Core (or other, for that matter) voices at something within normal limits for typical human speech rates say they're either slow or laggy.   If one wants to use ultra fast speech rates, then it narrows one's choice of synthesizers (and, probably, even voices for that synth).

Yes, speech rate can be varied for One Core voices.
 
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Re: Why Windows OneCore voices Over eSpeak NG

Brice Mijares
 

I use the one core voice and my rate is set at 95 which I fine adequate.

On 3/28/2019 11:00 AM, Monte Single wrote:
Good response.  I know some blind people listen at rates of speech over three  hundred words per minute.
Personally
  I find 175 to be pretty good for me.
Are the 1 core voices available for win 10 only or can they be used with win 7.?
Thanks,
Monte
*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Brian Vogel
*Sent:* March-28-19 11:42 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Why Windows OneCore voices Over eSpeak NG
On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 01:33 PM, Monte Single wrote:
Why do some people say the one core voices are slow? Can the speech
rate be increased?
Because some people have their speech rates set up to speeds that are incomprehensible to your random listener, but perfectly comprehensible to them, and certain synthesizers do "ultra fast" better than others.  I have yet to see anyone who uses One Core (or other, for that matter) voices at something within normal limits for typical human speech rates say they're either slow or laggy.   If one wants to use ultra fast speech rates, then it narrows one's choice of synthesizers (and, probably, even voices for that synth).
Yes, speech rate can be varied for One Core voices.
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Re: Why Windows OneCore voices Over eSpeak NG

Monte Single
 

Good response.  I know some blind people listen at rates of speech over three  hundred words per minute.

Personally

  I find 175 to be pretty good for me.

Are the 1 core voices available for win 10 only or can they be used with win 7.?

Thanks,

Monte

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: March-28-19 11:42 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Why Windows OneCore voices Over eSpeak NG

 

On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 01:33 PM, Monte Single wrote:

Why do some people say the one core voices are slow? Can the speech rate be increased?

Because some people have their speech rates set up to speeds that are incomprehensible to your random listener, but perfectly comprehensible to them, and certain synthesizers do "ultra fast" better than others.   I have yet to see anyone who uses One Core (or other, for that matter) voices at something within normal limits for typical human speech rates say they're either slow or laggy.   If one wants to use ultra fast speech rates, then it narrows one's choice of synthesizers (and, probably, even voices for that synth).

Yes, speech rate can be varied for One Core voices.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

The Internet is so big, so powerful and pointless that for some people it is a complete substitute for life.
          ~ Andrew Brown (1938-1994)

 

 


Re: Can't Access Group Messages Online

 

On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 11:55 AM, Abbie Taylor wrote:
but the groups.io site seems to be under maintenance
No, it isn't and hasn't been, at least not for any period of time during the hours from 9 AM to 12 AM EDT over the last several days.  I use the web interface exclusively, and have remained logged in for days and days now.  The web interface hasn't had a single "burp" during that period.
 
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Getting current column in word when you're in 2 column format?

 

Hello,
Some technical papers need to be written in a 2 column format and I'm having a hard time figuring out what column I'm on both because NVDA likes to jump around columns and because I need to know how to format my paper based off the template.
Is there any way to tell what column I'm in?

To format a document with 2 columns, go to format, columns, and choose 2. You need to have text selected first though I believe.
Thanks,


Re: Why Windows OneCore voices Over eSpeak NG

 

On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 01:33 PM, Monte Single wrote:
Why do some people say the one core voices are slow? Can the speech rate be increased?
Because some people have their speech rates set up to speeds that are incomprehensible to your random listener, but perfectly comprehensible to them, and certain synthesizers do "ultra fast" better than others.   I have yet to see anyone who uses One Core (or other, for that matter) voices at something within normal limits for typical human speech rates say they're either slow or laggy.   If one wants to use ultra fast speech rates, then it narrows one's choice of synthesizers (and, probably, even voices for that synth).

Yes, speech rate can be varied for One Core voices.
 
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          ~ Andrew Brown (1938-1994)

 

 


Re: Why Windows OneCore voices Over eSpeak NG

Monte Single
 

I have not moved to win 10 yet. Why do some people say the one core voices are slow? Can the speech rate be increased?
Thanks,
Monte

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Subject: Re: [nvda] Why Windows OneCore voices Over eSpeak NG

Well it detects windows 10 somehow and makes the default 1 core. It may be possible to tinker with this somewhere but in the end if you want the new voice on those secure screens the settings have to be saved and copied to the user area at boot up etc. I can see no other way if its going to be the same voice .
Brian

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Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 2:11 PM
Subject: [nvda] Why Windows OneCore voices Over eSpeak NG


Hi,

I don’t know when this was done, but NVDA is now defaulting to the Windows
OneCore voices rather than eSpeak NG when it is first installed on Windows
10. It also does this on secure screens.

This is really annoying to me as I find the Windows OneCore voices extremely
annoying in that they are incredibly slow and laggy. Is it possible to force
NVDA to default back to eSpeak NG without copying my entire NVDA
configuration over?

Thanks in Advance,

Noah Carver

Sent from Mail for Windows 10


Auto-Numbered Outlines

Ralph Boersema
 

Friends,

I find that often NVDA does not read the numbers or bullets that were produced automatically in MS Office documents or e-mails. Is there an NVDA preference I need to select to read the numbers of an outline that was automatically produced in Office?

Warmly,
Ralph


Re: Why Windows OneCore voices Over eSpeak NG

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Well it detects windows 10 somehow and makes the default 1 core. It may be possible to tinker with this somewhere but in the end if you want the new voice on those secure screens the settings have to be saved and copied to the user area at boot up etc. I can see no other way if its going to be the same voice .
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 2:11 PM
Subject: [nvda] Why Windows OneCore voices Over eSpeak NG


Hi,

I don’t know when this was done, but NVDA is now defaulting to the Windows OneCore voices rather than eSpeak NG when it is first installed on Windows 10. It also does this on secure screens.

This is really annoying to me as I find the Windows OneCore voices extremely annoying in that they are incredibly slow and laggy. Is it possible to force NVDA to default back to eSpeak NG without copying my entire NVDA configuration over?

Thanks in Advance,

Noah Carver

Sent from Mail for Windows 10


Re: Can't Access Group Messages Online

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

You should be able to do this via email commands. Most of the groups send out an email help with these in, then you can read each message one at a time. I find that any time saved by digest mode is lost trying to reply to them, so use individual messages.
Brian

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Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 3:55 PM
Subject: [nvda] Can't Access Group Messages Online


Since I subscribe in daily summary mode, the only way I can read messages is
online, but the groups.io site seems to be under maintenance, so I can't
access any messages. If you've responded to any of my posts recently and are
waiting for an answer from me, please be patient. As soon as the site is
restored, I'll be able to access everything and will respond as soon as I
can. Thank you.







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Re: Request: require assistance make NVDA read the status bar in file explorer of windows ten

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I don't have win10, but I thought this was fixed a while back by Josephs add on orhas it made it to core nvda. Probably find windows has mucked it up again!
Brian

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Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 4:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Request: require assistance make NVDA read the status bar in file explorer of windows ten


Can you not use object nav and get there then interact with the status
line and read it that way? It's slower but it should work just as well.

On 28 Mar 2019, at 6:05, Sandesh computer trainer HR wrote:

Hi friends,

I am using NVDA latest version. I selected files and folders in file
explorer of windows ten.
When I try to read the status bar NVDA is not reading in both keyboard
layouts laptop mode and desktop mode.
Kindly share the solution to overcome of above challenge.

With regards,
Sandesh HR



Re: Podcast website accessibility

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Are you saying one is not accessible with nvda?
Brian

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Sent: Thursday, March 28, 2019 11:57 AM
Subject: [nvda] Podcast website accessibility


Podcasts are hugely great for us, because of their audio nature, but below are 2 links on podcast website accessibility that's getting, at the moment, huge traction in the podcast communities. I like audio fiction, myself, but enjoy anyway.

[Medium article on podcast website accessibility.](https://medium.com/@blindwriter/make-sure-your-podcast-website-is-as-accessible-as-your-content-c8791a6c80f2?source=friends_link&sk=30072f1c433674adc59c4ec14fa97b62)

[Follow-up interview about podcast accessibility as a whole.](https://hotpodnews.com/on-accessibility-qa-with-robert-kingett/)


Re: Request: require assistance make NVDA read the status bar in file explorer of windows ten

Sarah k Alawami
 

Can you not use object nav and get there then interact with the status line and read it that way? It's slower but it should work just as well.

On 28 Mar 2019, at 6:05, Sandesh computer trainer HR wrote:

Hi friends,

I am using NVDA latest version. I selected files and folders in file
explorer of windows ten.
When I try to read the status bar NVDA is not reading in both keyboard
layouts laptop mode and desktop mode.
Kindly share the solution to overcome of above challenge.

With regards,
Sandesh HR


Can't Access Group Messages Online

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Since I subscribe in daily summary mode, the only way I can read messages is online, but the groups.io site seems to be under maintenance, so I can’t access any messages. If you’ve responded to any of my posts recently and are waiting for an answer from me, please be patient. As soon as the site is restored, I’ll be able to access everything and will respond as soon as I can. Thank you.

 

 

 

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Re: Request: require assistance make NVDA read the status bar in file explorer of windows ten

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!

I have written a small addon to read the status bar in File explorer in Windows 10...

Do you want me to send it?

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


Às 13:05 de 28/03/2019, Sandesh computer trainer HR escreveu:

Hi friends,
I am using NVDA latest version. I selected files and folders in file
explorer of windows ten.
When I try to read the status bar NVDA is not reading in both keyboard
layouts laptop mode and desktop mode.
Kindly share the solution to overcome of above challenge.
With regards,
Sandesh HR


Re: Why Windows OneCore voices Over eSpeak NG

Mohamed
 

This was done because many users find ESpeak to be very robotic sounding, which negatively affected people's first impression of NVDA. You'd need to copy your settings over if you want to use ESpeak NG. Alternatively, you could edit nvda.ini by hand, but that's a very involved process.

On 3/28/2019 10:11 AM, Noah Carver via Groups.Io wrote:

Hi,

 

I don’t know when this was done, but NVDA is now defaulting to the Windows OneCore voices rather than eSpeak NG when it is first installed on Windows 10. It also does this on secure screens.

 

This is really annoying to me as I find the Windows OneCore voices extremely annoying in that they are incredibly slow and laggy. Is it possible to force NVDA to default back to eSpeak NG without copying my entire NVDA configuration over?

 

Thanks in Advance,

 

Noah Carver

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 


Re: Why Windows OneCore voices Over eSpeak NG

 

Actually it's happening for a while now.
Well, you still can change the voice to Espeak then save the settings, nothing hard, not really :)

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy
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Em 28/03/2019 11:11, Noah Carver via Groups.Io disse:

Hi,

 

I don’t know when this was done, but NVDA is now defaulting to the Windows OneCore voices rather than eSpeak NG when it is first installed on Windows 10. It also does this on secure screens.

 

This is really annoying to me as I find the Windows OneCore voices extremely annoying in that they are incredibly slow and laggy. Is it possible to force NVDA to default back to eSpeak NG without copying my entire NVDA configuration over?

 

Thanks in Advance,

 

Noah Carver

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 



Why Windows OneCore voices Over eSpeak NG

 

Hi,

 

I don’t know when this was done, but NVDA is now defaulting to the Windows OneCore voices rather than eSpeak NG when it is first installed on Windows 10. It also does this on secure screens.

 

This is really annoying to me as I find the Windows OneCore voices extremely annoying in that they are incredibly slow and laggy. Is it possible to force NVDA to default back to eSpeak NG without copying my entire NVDA configuration over?

 

Thanks in Advance,

 

Noah Carver

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10