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Re: Why Windows OneCore voices Over eSpeak NG

Quentin Christensen
 

In 2019.1 we've reduced that pause between sentences with OneCore voices.  If that was your main issue, try OneCore voices again and see what you think of the change (do let us know).  Otherwise for the OP, as others have said, if you change your synth to eSpeak NG or any other, then:
1. Set your synth to eSpeak (or whatever you want) and make any other changes.
2. Press NVDA+control+c to save your settings
3. Open NVDA's general settings: NVDA+control+g
4. Tab to "Use Currently saved settings on Windows logon and other secure screens"
5. Press ENTER, then accept the warnings and notifications about copying settings etc.

We made the change in NVDA 2018.2 as a lot of new users found eSpeak NG very robotic and we felt that OneCore voices were at a point where they were quite useable for new users.  For users who preferred eSpeak NG, we still bundle it with NVDA and it is relatively easy to change to it (note that if you are upgrading from an earlier version of NVDA, you will keep your existing settings - the change to the default only affects new installations).

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Fri, Mar 29, 2019 at 8:00 AM JM Casey <jmcasey@...> wrote:

The problem I found with the 1core voices was that there was always a really long pause between sentences, and a shorter but still annoying pause after commas. I was able to get rid of this by editing an .ini file within windows, but most times when there was a windows update, the setting went back to its default. Very irritating.

 

Someone suggested setting the rate within windows to its maximum, and setting the rate within NVDA to normal listening speed. This did seem to help the problem, although I can’t really say why. Now every time I turn on narrator, it’s incomprehensibly fast. :D

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: March 28, 2019 3:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Why Windows OneCore voices Over eSpeak NG

 

There is a procedure to speed up the One Core Voices.  I don't know it, I don't have Windows 10 and I'd probably far rather use Eloquence or Via Voice if I did, but I've seen the procedure written about before. 

Gene

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: March-28-19 11:42 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Why Windows OneCore voices Over eSpeak NG

 

On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 01:33 PM, Monte Single wrote:

Why do some people say the one core voices are slow? Can the speech rate be increased?

Because some people have their speech rates set up to speeds that are incomprehensible to your random listener, but perfectly comprehensible to them, and certain synthesizers do "ultra fast" better than others.   I have yet to see anyone who uses One Core (or other, for that matter) voices at something within normal limits for typical human speech rates say they're either slow or laggy.   If one wants to use ultra fast speech rates, then it narrows one's choice of synthesizers (and, probably, even voices for that synth).

Yes, speech rate can be varied for One Core voices.
 
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Re: Firefox's extensions' section: The Saga goes on

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

I guess there are no other options, NVDA counts any header columns/rows into the index.

 

Cheers,

Ralf

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of marcio via Groups.Io
Sent: Donnerstag, 28. März 2019 22:29
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Firefox's extensions' section: The Saga goes on

 

Hello guys,
Quite a while ago I posted about an issue regarding Firefox working with NVDA, where these little guys weren't wanting to read properly the options - plugins, extensions and such - as we went through them.
Well as said before by Brian - or at least one of the Brians we have here right now (LOL) - this is fortunately fixed, for what I'm infinitely thankful.
Trouble is, now when navigating through the options, I'm hearing something like that:
Plugins - 1 of 7
Extensions - 2 of 7
And so on until the fourth item.
And here's where thing gets weird. I just can't keep arrowing down to see the other 3 options that would be there according with the NVDA items' numbering.
So, all of this to ask, is anyone having this behavior using the latest Firefox version?
That's all guys.
Thanks.

Cheers,
Marcio

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Re: Kindle for PC

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


thanks.


I am wondering also how much information is needed in the tutorial  for people to use it.


It covers stuff like what version where to get it from how to navigate the program when looking for a new book what to look for if they want nvda to read it pointing also towards the user manual for kindle for pc in the nvda manual etc


I have not got a kindle device only the program.


Just not sure where to point to the nvda user manual or section or have it all in the tutorial for that section.


Does any one want to look at the draft? do not worry about the format or how it is set out.


It is the basic's of using the program.


Gene nz


On 26/03/2019 5:04 PM, Aravind R wrote:
https://www.amazon.in/kindle-dbs/fd/kcp


On 3/26/19, Quentin Christensen <quentin@...> wrote:
At one point, Amazon brought out an "accessible version" of the Kindle app,
which was separate from the regular download.  When they brought out
version 1.19, it was early 2017 and around the time we released NVDA 2017.1
which brought accessibility to the "standard" kindle for PC app.
Essentially, any version of Kindle since then should be accessible.

Re the website for books, I must admit, I don't read many kindle books
myself so haven't played with it much, but if there is a problem, do raise
it.  If it's with the website, it's likely an issue for Amazon, but of
course it is worth us being aware of it as well.

Quentin.

On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 8:45 PM hurrikennyandopo ... <
hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

Hi Brian


Just looking at the site for a accessible version of kindle for pc. funny
thing was on the accessibility page for it it is a very old version and
when downloaded apart from the menus was in not accessible.

I think it was like version 1.4 and 1.9 now and above is recommended.


I did read up you needed a later version of which i got but not from them
as i could not find it any where on there amazon website it seems like
you
go in circles.


the version i got now is accessible but if some one knows more of a
direct
link i will add that into the tutorial.




Would any one have a direct link to the latest version of it on there
website to download instead of searching for it off the net.

This is for the amazon website.


Just putting to together a tutorial on the basic's of using it once i
figure it out.

Or could you call it notes.


I see there are users on the list using it. I might have to sus out how
to
download other free books to or does some one on the list know how? and
what hoops i might have to jump through.

Or tips i can add into it.




Gene nz



On 25/03/2019 10:28 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

Was there not an issue with the web site for Kindle books, a link that
did
not show up properly?
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, March 25, 2019 2:20 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Kindle for PC


Hi Don,

NVDA first got support for Kindle for PC (version 1.19 at the time) in
NVDA
2017.1, and it has improved since then.

We do have a few notes on using Kindle for PC in the NVDA user guide:
https://www.nvaccess.org/files/nvda/documentation/userGuide.html#Kindle

If you do have any specific questions or run into any problems, please do
let us know.  Note that as per the first line in that section I linked
to,
this functionality is only available in Kindle books designated with
"Screen Reader: Supported" which you can check on the details page for
the
book.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Mon, Mar 25, 2019 at 7:49 AM Don H <lmddh50@...>
<lmddh50@...> wrote:

Does NVDA work well with Kindle for PC for reading Kindel books?

Thanks







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Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa).
To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
 

To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
 
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Re: Can't Access Group Messages Online

Sarah k Alawami
 

It actually had some down time according to an email I got in the beta group. This was I think some time this morning if I recall. It should be back up now.

On 28 Mar 2019, at 10:45, Brian Vogel wrote:

On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 11:55 AM, Abbie Taylor wrote:
but the groups.io site seems to be under maintenance
No, it isn't and hasn't been, at least not for any period of time during the hours from 9 AM to 12 AM EDT over the last several days.  I use the web interface exclusively, and have remained logged in for days and days now.  The web interface hasn't had a single "burp" during that period.
 
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Re: Why Windows OneCore voices Over eSpeak NG

Sarah k Alawami
 

I use one core at microsoft's 100 percent and nvda's maybe 40. It's rapid fast and only I can understand it. And they are as responsive as ever.

Take care

On 28 Mar 2019, at 10:41, Brian Vogel wrote:

On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 01:33 PM, Monte Single wrote:
Why do some people say the one core voices are slow? Can the speech rate be increased?
Because some people have their speech rates set up to speeds that are incomprehensible to your random listener, but perfectly comprehensible to them, and certain synthesizers do "ultra fast" better than others.   I have yet to see anyone who uses One Core (or other, for that matter) voices at something within normal limits for typical human speech rates say they're either slow or laggy.   If one wants to use ultra fast speech rates, then it narrows one's choice of synthesizers (and, probably, even voices for that synth).

Yes, speech rate can be varied for One Core voices.
 
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The Internet is so big, so powerful and pointless that for some people it is a complete substitute for life.
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Firefox's extensions' section: The Saga goes on

 

Hello guys,
Quite a while ago I posted about an issue regarding Firefox working with NVDA, where these little guys weren't wanting to read properly the options - plugins, extensions and such - as we went through them.
Well as said before by Brian - or at least one of the Brians we have here right now (LOL) - this is fortunately fixed, for what I'm infinitely thankful.
Trouble is, now when navigating through the options, I'm hearing something like that:
Plugins - 1 of 7
Extensions - 2 of 7
And so on until the fourth item.
And here's where thing gets weird. I just can't keep arrowing down to see the other 3 options that would be there according with the NVDA items' numbering.
So, all of this to ask, is anyone having this behavior using the latest Firefox version?
That's all guys.
Thanks.

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy
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Re: Why Windows OneCore voices Over eSpeak NG

JM Casey
 

The problem I found with the 1core voices was that there was always a really long pause between sentences, and a shorter but still annoying pause after commas. I was able to get rid of this by editing an .ini file within windows, but most times when there was a windows update, the setting went back to its default. Very irritating.

 

Someone suggested setting the rate within windows to its maximum, and setting the rate within NVDA to normal listening speed. This did seem to help the problem, although I can’t really say why. Now every time I turn on narrator, it’s incomprehensibly fast. :D

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: March 28, 2019 3:25 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Why Windows OneCore voices Over eSpeak NG

 

There is a procedure to speed up the One Core Voices.  I don't know it, I don't have Windows 10 and I'd probably far rather use Eloquence or Via Voice if I did, but I've seen the procedure written about before. 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: March-28-19 11:42 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Why Windows OneCore voices Over eSpeak NG

 

On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 01:33 PM, Monte Single wrote:

Why do some people say the one core voices are slow? Can the speech rate be increased?

Because some people have their speech rates set up to speeds that are incomprehensible to your random listener, but perfectly comprehensible to them, and certain synthesizers do "ultra fast" better than others.   I have yet to see anyone who uses One Core (or other, for that matter) voices at something within normal limits for typical human speech rates say they're either slow or laggy.   If one wants to use ultra fast speech rates, then it narrows one's choice of synthesizers (and, probably, even voices for that synth).

Yes, speech rate can be varied for One Core voices.
 
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The Internet is so big, so powerful and pointless that for some people it is a complete substitute for life.
          ~ Andrew Brown (1938-1994)

 

 


Re: Why Windows OneCore voices Over eSpeak NG

George McCoy <slr1bpz@...>
 

Obviously, voices like espeak and elloquence can be cranked up to phenomally fast rates.  But you can speed up onecore voices to a respectable rate by going into settings, time and language speech and advancing the speed slider to 100 and then adjusting NVDA's rate accordingly.  I can get speeds with Microsoft Mark that are roughly equivalent to espeak with rate boost checked and rate set to 40 or so.


George

On 3/28/2019 12:41 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 01:33 PM, Monte Single wrote:
Why do some people say the one core voices are slow? Can the speech rate be increased?
Because some people have their speech rates set up to speeds that are incomprehensible to your random listener, but perfectly comprehensible to them, and certain synthesizers do "ultra fast" better than others.   I have yet to see anyone who uses One Core (or other, for that matter) voices at something within normal limits for typical human speech rates say they're either slow or laggy.   If one wants to use ultra fast speech rates, then it narrows one's choice of synthesizers (and, probably, even voices for that synth).

Yes, speech rate can be varied for One Core voices.
 
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Re: Why Windows OneCore voices Over eSpeak NG

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


To grab the whole package of the runtime file and all the voices you can get it from the following link at https://www.dropbox.com/s/0rokrf6a4qijsvf/Speech%20Platform%2011%20engine%20and%20voices.zip?dl=0

I will leave it there for 24 hours or so.


It is in a zip format so it will need to be opened. There is 28 files or so. Locate the speech platform runtime one first it will then have to be installed all the rest with TTs are text to speech voices in english and other languages.


it is 340 meg with them all zipped so hopefully you are not on limited bandwith.


Gene nz


On 29/03/2019 7:58 AM, Narayan wrote:

Please provide the link of this.

On 29 March 2019 12:11:24 AM "hurrikennyandopo ..." <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

Hi


If you do go down the speech platform way for your windows 7 machine let us know and i can drop box the engine  or is it called the driver with all the voices it has both in english and other languages etc.


Gene nz


On 29/03/2019 7:00 AM, Monte Single wrote:

Good response.  I know some blind people listen at rates of speech over three  hundred words per minute.

Personally

  I find 175 to be pretty good for me.

Are the 1 core voices available for win 10 only or can they be used with win 7.?

Thanks,

Monte

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: March-28-19 11:42 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Why Windows OneCore voices Over eSpeak NG

 

On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 01:33 PM, Monte Single wrote:

Why do some people say the one core voices are slow? Can the speech rate be increased?

Because some people have their speech rates set up to speeds that are incomprehensible to your random listener, but perfectly comprehensible to them, and certain synthesizers do "ultra fast" better than others.   I have yet to see anyone who uses One Core (or other, for that matter) voices at something within normal limits for typical human speech rates say they're either slow or laggy.   If one wants to use ultra fast speech rates, then it narrows one's choice of synthesizers (and, probably, even voices for that synth).

Yes, speech rate can be varied for One Core voices.
 
--

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The Internet is so big, so powerful and pointless that for some people it is a complete substitute for life.
          ~ Andrew Brown (1938-1994)

 

 

--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
 
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa).
To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
 

To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
 
To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.

--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
 
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa).
To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
 

To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
 
To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Why Windows OneCore voices Over eSpeak NG

Gene
 

There is a procedure to speed up the One Core Voices.  I don't know it, I don't have Windows 10 and I'd probably far rather use Eloquence or Via Voice if I did, but I've seen the procedure written about before. 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: March-28-19 11:42 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Why Windows OneCore voices Over eSpeak NG

 

On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 01:33 PM, Monte Single wrote:

Why do some people say the one core voices are slow? Can the speech rate be increased?

Because some people have their speech rates set up to speeds that are incomprehensible to your random listener, but perfectly comprehensible to them, and certain synthesizers do "ultra fast" better than others.   I have yet to see anyone who uses One Core (or other, for that matter) voices at something within normal limits for typical human speech rates say they're either slow or laggy.   If one wants to use ultra fast speech rates, then it narrows one's choice of synthesizers (and, probably, even voices for that synth).

Yes, speech rate can be varied for One Core voices.
 
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The Internet is so big, so powerful and pointless that for some people it is a complete substitute for life.
          ~ Andrew Brown (1938-1994)

 

 


Re: Request: require assistance make NVDA read the status bar in file explorer of windows ten

Andre Fisher
 

Hi.

It's much more convoluted to do it this way. I would consider myself to be an advanced user of NVDA, yet I found it difficult to find it. I could offer up another solution in the form of the Virtual Review add-on. When it is installed, press NVDA+Control+W while in Windows/File Explorer.


Re: Why Windows OneCore voices Over eSpeak NG

Narayan <krishnashree1221@...>
 

Please provide the link of this.

On 29 March 2019 12:11:24 AM "hurrikennyandopo ..." <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

Hi


If you do go down the speech platform way for your windows 7 machine let us know and i can drop box the engine  or is it called the driver with all the voices it has both in english and other languages etc.


Gene nz


On 29/03/2019 7:00 AM, Monte Single wrote:

Good response.  I know some blind people listen at rates of speech over three  hundred words per minute.

Personally

  I find 175 to be pretty good for me.

Are the 1 core voices available for win 10 only or can they be used with win 7.?

Thanks,

Monte

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: March-28-19 11:42 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Why Windows OneCore voices Over eSpeak NG

 

On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 01:33 PM, Monte Single wrote:

Why do some people say the one core voices are slow? Can the speech rate be increased?

Because some people have their speech rates set up to speeds that are incomprehensible to your random listener, but perfectly comprehensible to them, and certain synthesizers do "ultra fast" better than others.   I have yet to see anyone who uses One Core (or other, for that matter) voices at something within normal limits for typical human speech rates say they're either slow or laggy.   If one wants to use ultra fast speech rates, then it narrows one's choice of synthesizers (and, probably, even voices for that synth).

Yes, speech rate can be varied for One Core voices.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

The Internet is so big, so powerful and pointless that for some people it is a complete substitute for life.
          ~ Andrew Brown (1938-1994)

 

 

--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
 
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa).
To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
 

To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
 
To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Auto-Numbered Outlines

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

Yes, that's confusing. I noticed the same. When turning the symbol level to all they got announced. An option to get this bullet symbols spoken would be nice.

Cheers,
Ralf

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ralph Boersema
Sent: Donnerstag, 28. März 2019 18:06
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Auto-Numbered Outlines

Friends,

I find that often NVDA does not read the numbers or bullets that were produced automatically in MS Office documents or e-mails. Is there an NVDA preference I need to select to read the numbers of an outline that was automatically produced in Office?

Warmly,
Ralph


Re: Why Windows OneCore voices Over eSpeak NG

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


If you do go down the speech platform way for your windows 7 machine let us know and i can drop box the engine  or is it called the driver with all the voices it has both in english and other languages etc.


Gene nz


On 29/03/2019 7:00 AM, Monte Single wrote:

Good response.  I know some blind people listen at rates of speech over three  hundred words per minute.

Personally

  I find 175 to be pretty good for me.

Are the 1 core voices available for win 10 only or can they be used with win 7.?

Thanks,

Monte

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: March-28-19 11:42 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Why Windows OneCore voices Over eSpeak NG

 

On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 01:33 PM, Monte Single wrote:

Why do some people say the one core voices are slow? Can the speech rate be increased?

Because some people have their speech rates set up to speeds that are incomprehensible to your random listener, but perfectly comprehensible to them, and certain synthesizers do "ultra fast" better than others.   I have yet to see anyone who uses One Core (or other, for that matter) voices at something within normal limits for typical human speech rates say they're either slow or laggy.   If one wants to use ultra fast speech rates, then it narrows one's choice of synthesizers (and, probably, even voices for that synth).

Yes, speech rate can be varied for One Core voices.
 
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Re: Braille Me add-on not working

Christo de Klerk
 

What version of the firmware are you using that is causing you problems? Which version of the BrailleMe add-on are you using?

Kind regards

Christo


On 2019/03/28 02:35PM, Jenine Stanley wrote:

I’ve been having difficulty with this since the last firmware update of the Braille Me, add-on not working and display not being recognized by NVDA.

 

I’m sure this is a Braille Me issue and not and NVDA one but just wondering if anyone else has had this issue and if so, how did you resolve it?

 

I’m considering going back to factory reset and trying a reinstall of the firmware for the Braille Me. When it worked, it was beyond awesome with NVDA.

 

 

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Re: Why Windows OneCore voices Over eSpeak NG

Mohamed
 

No, OneCore voices can only be used with Windows 10, however you might be able to get some of the voices by installing Microsoft Speech Platform, though that does not include newer voices such as Mark. I believe that also suffers from the responsiveness issues of SAPI 5.

On 3/28/2019 2:00 PM, Monte Single wrote:

Good response.  I know some blind people listen at rates of speech over three  hundred words per minute.

Personally

  I find 175 to be pretty good for me.

Are the 1 core voices available for win 10 only or can they be used with win 7.?

Thanks,

Monte

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: March-28-19 11:42 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Why Windows OneCore voices Over eSpeak NG

 

On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 01:33 PM, Monte Single wrote:

Why do some people say the one core voices are slow? Can the speech rate be increased?

Because some people have their speech rates set up to speeds that are incomprehensible to your random listener, but perfectly comprehensible to them, and certain synthesizers do "ultra fast" better than others.   I have yet to see anyone who uses One Core (or other, for that matter) voices at something within normal limits for typical human speech rates say they're either slow or laggy.   If one wants to use ultra fast speech rates, then it narrows one's choice of synthesizers (and, probably, even voices for that synth).

Yes, speech rate can be varied for One Core voices.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

The Internet is so big, so powerful and pointless that for some people it is a complete substitute for life.
          ~ Andrew Brown (1938-1994)

 

 


Re: Why Windows OneCore voices Over eSpeak NG

Brice Mijares
 

I use the one core voice and my rate is set at 95 which I fine adequate.

On 3/28/2019 11:00 AM, Monte Single wrote:
Good response.  I know some blind people listen at rates of speech over three  hundred words per minute.
Personally
  I find 175 to be pretty good for me.
Are the 1 core voices available for win 10 only or can they be used with win 7.?
Thanks,
Monte
*From:*nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] *On Behalf Of *Brian Vogel
*Sent:* March-28-19 11:42 AM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Why Windows OneCore voices Over eSpeak NG
On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 01:33 PM, Monte Single wrote:
Why do some people say the one core voices are slow? Can the speech
rate be increased?
Because some people have their speech rates set up to speeds that are incomprehensible to your random listener, but perfectly comprehensible to them, and certain synthesizers do "ultra fast" better than others.  I have yet to see anyone who uses One Core (or other, for that matter) voices at something within normal limits for typical human speech rates say they're either slow or laggy.   If one wants to use ultra fast speech rates, then it narrows one's choice of synthesizers (and, probably, even voices for that synth).
Yes, speech rate can be varied for One Core voices.
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Brian *-*Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763
/*The Internet is so big, so powerful and pointless that for some people it is a complete substitute for life.*/*/
/**/          ~ Andrew Brown (1938-1994)/*


Re: Why Windows OneCore voices Over eSpeak NG

Monte Single
 

Good response.  I know some blind people listen at rates of speech over three  hundred words per minute.

Personally

  I find 175 to be pretty good for me.

Are the 1 core voices available for win 10 only or can they be used with win 7.?

Thanks,

Monte

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: March-28-19 11:42 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Why Windows OneCore voices Over eSpeak NG

 

On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 01:33 PM, Monte Single wrote:

Why do some people say the one core voices are slow? Can the speech rate be increased?

Because some people have their speech rates set up to speeds that are incomprehensible to your random listener, but perfectly comprehensible to them, and certain synthesizers do "ultra fast" better than others.   I have yet to see anyone who uses One Core (or other, for that matter) voices at something within normal limits for typical human speech rates say they're either slow or laggy.   If one wants to use ultra fast speech rates, then it narrows one's choice of synthesizers (and, probably, even voices for that synth).

Yes, speech rate can be varied for One Core voices.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

The Internet is so big, so powerful and pointless that for some people it is a complete substitute for life.
          ~ Andrew Brown (1938-1994)

 

 


Re: Can't Access Group Messages Online

 

On Thu, Mar 28, 2019 at 11:55 AM, Abbie Taylor wrote:
but the groups.io site seems to be under maintenance
No, it isn't and hasn't been, at least not for any period of time during the hours from 9 AM to 12 AM EDT over the last several days.  I use the web interface exclusively, and have remained logged in for days and days now.  The web interface hasn't had a single "burp" during that period.
 
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Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

The Internet is so big, so powerful and pointless that for some people it is a complete substitute for life.
          ~ Andrew Brown (1938-1994)

 

 


Getting current column in word when you're in 2 column format?

 

Hello,
Some technical papers need to be written in a 2 column format and I'm having a hard time figuring out what column I'm on both because NVDA likes to jump around columns and because I need to know how to format my paper based off the template.
Is there any way to tell what column I'm in?

To format a document with 2 columns, go to format, columns, and choose 2. You need to have text selected first though I believe.
Thanks,