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Re: whats the best version of firefox for using with old systems?
Gene
See this forum discussion. the instructions
are similar, but not the same.
This is a long link. When I went to the
actual link, the page didn't load. This is a Google cache.
I may have been wrong, this appears to be related
to multicore processing but it isn't clear to me if it matters unless you are
doing something such as I described, having multiple tabs open when you start
the browser. I read something indicating that multicore processing should
speed up opening multiple web pages.
I'm still skeptical that it should cause what you,
Brian are describing. Also, the last message in the forum discussion is
very tentative about whether doing this helped. it says something like,
maybe a little faster. I realize that's just one comment from one person
and can't be generalized from. but it adds to my skepticism.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2019 1:05 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] whats the best version of firefox for using with
old systems? The instructions for using about":config in this
way don't sound to me as though they have anything to do with multiple
processors. It sounds like turning off Firefox's ability to open more than
one tab as multiple home pages when you run it. It won't do so anyway
unless you set multiple home pages. I've never looked into how to do
that. The wording of what you are discussing discusses multiple tabs,
which has nothing to do with multiple cores. Multiple core operation means
that a program can use more than one core in a processor so that the tasks are
spread out and can be done faster because, in essence, more than one processing
unit is working on them.
As far as the browser being designed to use
multiple cores, that diagnosis of the slower response in version 52 doesn't
sound correct to me. I am not a tech, and I may be wrong. I would
expect that if a computer only has one core, the program will use that one core
and it will use it as it always did. Where,
Brian, did you get the information that the multicore design is responsible for
the slower operation? that just doesn't sound plausible to
me.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: zahra
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2019 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] whats the best version of firefox for using with
old systems? does it mean that firefox 48 also is not good for me? to disable multiprocess in every version of firefox, in the address bar, type about:config accept the warning message. in the search bar, type browser.tabs.remote.autostart or peist it and press tab to find it. press enter on it to make it false, if its value is true. On 4/3/19, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote: > I the code in the 52 version was optimised for multi processor cores so it > goes in jerks due to it trying to do all the tasks at the same time. There > > is probably a way to turn multi core support off, but I do not know what it > > is. > Brian > > bglists@... > Sent via blueyonder. > Please address personal E-mail to:- > briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' > in the display name field. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@...> > To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> > Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2019 2:11 PM > Subject: Re: [nvda] whats the best version of firefox for using with old > systems? > > >> thanks brian for your great advice for me to use firefox 45. >> its more fast, reliable and needs less system resources in compare to >> firefox 52 i believe. >> my laptop processor is intel, but i am really not satisfied of newer >> versions of firefox. >> one computer engineer told me that i can change user agent in mozilla >> firefox. >> i tested one time, and it did not mention again that my firefox is old >> and i should update it! >> but unfortunately my problems and not working github is not resolved for >> me. >> only it could prevents the message for updating firefox. >> >> i found how to change user agent in different browsers by searching >> google. >> hear you are the link, God bless you! >> >> https://www.howtogeek.com/113439/how-to-change-your-browsers-user-agent-without-installing-any-extensions/ >> >> On 4/3/19, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io >> <bglists@...> wrote: >>> Well if its AMD, myself I use 45, the big problem nowadays is that many >>> >>> web >>> >>> sites do not like these versions, just in the same way as they do not >>> like >>> IE8. I get a banner saying sorry, update your browser goodbye! >>> >>> >>> I am not aware if this is merely sites detecting the browser version, or >>> whether if the browser version presented to the site was spoofed if the >>> site >>> >>> might then work. If anyone knows any hacks to make Firefox older >>> versions >>> pretend to be newer, then its probably off topic here, but maybe post a >>> link to a place where they can be found, at the users risk of course. >>> The thing is there will always be those who just are unable to update >>> their >>> >>> machines either due to poverty or political embargoes etc, so there is >>> always going to be the need for such work arounds like Tor browser for >>> example and its a real shame those making that have messed up >>> accessibility >>> >>> in their recent updates. >>> >>> >>> Brian >>> >>> bglists@... >>> Sent via blueyonder. >>> Please address personal E-mail to:- >>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' >>> in the display name field. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@...> >>> To: <nvda@groups.io> >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2019 8:02 AM >>> Subject: [nvda] whats the best version of firefox for using with old >>> systems? >>> >>> >>>> hi every one. >>>> i used firefox 52.9 and tor version 7.5.6 which is based on this >>>> version of firefox also. >>>> however, i remembered that brian always mentioned that firefox 52 is >>>> not very fast with windows xp and old processors. >>>> can you please tell me between firefox 45.9 and 48, which one is >>>> better? >>>> i am not satisfied with newer versions of firefox and toor, because of >>>> overheating my laptop, unresponsiveness and slowness of nvda and brows >>>> mode not working. >>>> i appreciate any help, God bless you all! >>>> >>>> -- >>>> By God, >>>> were I given all the seven heavens >>>> with all they contain >>>> in order that >>>> I may disobey God >>>> by depriving an ant >>>> from the husk of a grain of barley, >>>> I would not do it. >>>> imam ali >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> By God, >> were I given all the seven heavens >> with all they contain >> in order that >> I may disobey God >> by depriving an ant >> from the husk of a grain of barley, >> I would not do it. >> imam ali >> >> >> > > > > > -- By God, were I given all the seven heavens with all they contain in order that I may disobey God by depriving an ant from the husk of a grain of barley, I would not do it. imam ali
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Re: whats the best version of firefox for using with old systems?
Gene
The instructions for using about":config in this
way don't sound to me as though they have anything to do with multiple
processors. It sounds like turning off Firefox's ability to open more than
one tab as multiple home pages when you run it. It won't do so anyway
unless you set multiple home pages. I've never looked into how to do
that. The wording of what you are discussing discusses multiple tabs,
which has nothing to do with multiple cores. Multiple core operation means
that a program can use more than one core in a processor so that the tasks are
spread out and can be done faster because, in essence, more than one processing
unit is working on them.
As far as the browser being designed to use
multiple cores, that diagnosis of the slower response in version 52 doesn't
sound correct to me. I am not a tech, and I may be wrong. I would
expect that if a computer only has one core, the program will use that one core
and it will use it as it always did. Where,
Brian, did you get the information that the multicore design is responsible for
the slower operation? that just doesn't sound plausible to
me.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: zahra
Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2019 12:05 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] whats the best version of firefox for using with
old systems? does it mean that firefox 48 also is not good for me? to disable multiprocess in every version of firefox, in the address bar, type about:config accept the warning message. in the search bar, type browser.tabs.remote.autostart or peist it and press tab to find it. press enter on it to make it false, if its value is true. On 4/3/19, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote: > I the code in the 52 version was optimised for multi processor cores so it > goes in jerks due to it trying to do all the tasks at the same time. There > > is probably a way to turn multi core support off, but I do not know what it > > is. > Brian > > bglists@... > Sent via blueyonder. > Please address personal E-mail to:- > briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' > in the display name field. > ----- Original Message ----- > From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@...> > To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> > Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2019 2:11 PM > Subject: Re: [nvda] whats the best version of firefox for using with old > systems? > > >> thanks brian for your great advice for me to use firefox 45. >> its more fast, reliable and needs less system resources in compare to >> firefox 52 i believe. >> my laptop processor is intel, but i am really not satisfied of newer >> versions of firefox. >> one computer engineer told me that i can change user agent in mozilla >> firefox. >> i tested one time, and it did not mention again that my firefox is old >> and i should update it! >> but unfortunately my problems and not working github is not resolved for >> me. >> only it could prevents the message for updating firefox. >> >> i found how to change user agent in different browsers by searching >> google. >> hear you are the link, God bless you! >> >> https://www.howtogeek.com/113439/how-to-change-your-browsers-user-agent-without-installing-any-extensions/ >> >> On 4/3/19, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io >> <bglists@...> wrote: >>> Well if its AMD, myself I use 45, the big problem nowadays is that many >>> >>> web >>> >>> sites do not like these versions, just in the same way as they do not >>> like >>> IE8. I get a banner saying sorry, update your browser goodbye! >>> >>> >>> I am not aware if this is merely sites detecting the browser version, or >>> whether if the browser version presented to the site was spoofed if the >>> site >>> >>> might then work. If anyone knows any hacks to make Firefox older >>> versions >>> pretend to be newer, then its probably off topic here, but maybe post a >>> link to a place where they can be found, at the users risk of course. >>> The thing is there will always be those who just are unable to update >>> their >>> >>> machines either due to poverty or political embargoes etc, so there is >>> always going to be the need for such work arounds like Tor browser for >>> example and its a real shame those making that have messed up >>> accessibility >>> >>> in their recent updates. >>> >>> >>> Brian >>> >>> bglists@... >>> Sent via blueyonder. >>> Please address personal E-mail to:- >>> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff' >>> in the display name field. >>> ----- Original Message ----- >>> From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@...> >>> To: <nvda@groups.io> >>> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2019 8:02 AM >>> Subject: [nvda] whats the best version of firefox for using with old >>> systems? >>> >>> >>>> hi every one. >>>> i used firefox 52.9 and tor version 7.5.6 which is based on this >>>> version of firefox also. >>>> however, i remembered that brian always mentioned that firefox 52 is >>>> not very fast with windows xp and old processors. >>>> can you please tell me between firefox 45.9 and 48, which one is >>>> better? >>>> i am not satisfied with newer versions of firefox and toor, because of >>>> overheating my laptop, unresponsiveness and slowness of nvda and brows >>>> mode not working. >>>> i appreciate any help, God bless you all! >>>> >>>> -- >>>> By God, >>>> were I given all the seven heavens >>>> with all they contain >>>> in order that >>>> I may disobey God >>>> by depriving an ant >>>> from the husk of a grain of barley, >>>> I would not do it. >>>> imam ali >>>> >>>> >>>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >>> >> >> >> -- >> By God, >> were I given all the seven heavens >> with all they contain >> in order that >> I may disobey God >> by depriving an ant >> from the husk of a grain of barley, >> I would not do it. >> imam ali >> >> >> > > > > > -- By God, were I given all the seven heavens with all they contain in order that I may disobey God by depriving an ant from the husk of a grain of barley, I would not do it. imam ali
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GoldWave add-on 19.04, localization update and last version to support NVDA releases earlier than 2019.1
#addonrelease
Hi all,
In a few hours GoldWave add-on 19.04 will be released. This one is a minor update that brings latest and greatest localization updates for many languages.
IMPORTANT COMPATIBILITY NOTICE: GoldWave add-on 19.04 will be the last version to support NVDA versions earlier than 2019.1 (currently this add-on supports NVDA 2017.3 and later in consideration for people using Windows XP). At least 30 days after Python 3 version of NVDA is released (TBD), GoldWave add-on will require:
For people who are not using the combination specified above, GoldWave add-on 19.04 will be the last version. The following groups of people will be affected:
Reason for requiring NVDA 2019.1 (or for that matter, 2018.4) and later: NVDA 2018.4 introduces a much improved way to assign multiple commands to a script (specifically, via scriptHandler.script decorator). For GoldWave add-on, this eases assigning GoldWave native commands to routines performed by NVDA.
Python 3 compatibility notice (for reference purposes): GoldWave add-on is compatible with a future Python 3 version of NVDA.
Cheers, Joseph
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Re: Looking for people using NVDA and E-Pubs
Devin Prater
I use Adobe Edition for EPUBs. I wish there were more options, but we take what we can get, the crumbs from the sighted table. Devin Prater sent from Gmail.
On Tue, Apr 2, 2019 at 10:34 PM <prem.translator@...> wrote: I use NVDA to read epub regularly, I read it with QRead 3.21 and Adobe Digital Edition.
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Re: GoldWave
JM Casey
Hi.
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I'm not arguing, but I wonder if you could explain this? I work with both .wav and .mp3 files using version 6.31 of this programme, and although I don't use all features, it works as well or better than it did previously. What's been dropped?
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sile via Groups.Io Sent: April 3, 2019 8:02 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] GoldWave Agreed, Later versions of Goldwave have dropped much of the functionality for working with MP3 files in particular. --Sile On 2019-04-03 3:59 a.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote: No don't do that. Many of us find the 32 bit old version superior for
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Re: GoldWave
JM Casey
Just curious, but why wouldn't one use goldwave 6? Maybe if you were still on XP, I could understand sticking with an old version -- in that case you can no longer keep NVDA up to date either.
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I am using GW 6.31 (I believe that's the version number) with no complaints, working very well.
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee Sent: April 3, 2019 9:32 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] GoldWave Hi, As much as I wish to support GoldWave 5.x forever, we must move on at some point. I know what I just said is very painful for some of you, but given the pace at which technology is changing, we must find a way to keep up somehow (yes, I know this is a repeat of XP arguments from 2017). Don't worry - a version of this add-on that supports GoldWave 5.x will remain posted somewhere so folks can download it if needed. Cheers, Joseph -----Original Message----- From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sile via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2019 5:02 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] GoldWave Agreed, Later versions of Goldwave have dropped much of the functionality for working with MP3 files in particular. --Sile On 2019-04-03 3:59 a.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote: No don't do that. Many of us find the 32 bit old version superior for
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Re: Youtube in Firefox don't automatically plays video after loading Youtube
JM Casey
There have been a lot of messages on the list about this, but the explanation seems to be that firefox does not autoplay by default. This change is welcome by many of us, including me.
As for internet Explorer – yeah, I don’t know, haven’t used that in quite some time.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Giles Turnbull
I don't have any explanation why nor any solution, but I can confirm YouTube is behaving the same for me when using Firefox. The Video page loads but does not automatically play. It started to do this yesterday.
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Re: whats the best version of firefox for using with old systems?
also, firefox 48 supports multiprocess.
does it mean that firefox 48 also is not good for me? to disable multiprocess in every version of firefox, in the address bar, type about:config accept the warning message. in the search bar, type browser.tabs.remote.autostart or peist it and press tab to find it. press enter on it to make it false, if its value is true. On 4/3/19, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote: I the code in the 52 version was optimised for multi processor cores so it -- By God, were I given all the seven heavens with all they contain in order that I may disobey God by depriving an ant from the husk of a grain of barley, I would not do it. imam ali
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Word issues at page boundaries again
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
Hi does everyone have issues when going through a page boundary on various flavours of Microsoft word. Originally making the view normal and the zoom 200 percent seemed to fix this getting stuck issue, but it seems to no longer reliably work in the latest nvda stable version
Is there a trick I'm maybe not seeing on how to set up either nvda or word versions to get it to play nicely? Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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Re: Google Searches
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
Well maybe, but sometimes you do find that their results are if you like a page to subdivide or tighten your search.
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I personally feel they have gone a little too far of late, and tend to use duckduck go or startpage instead as google itself is now getting cluttered. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2019 2:39 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Google Searches I would run the malware scanner of your choosing on your system. This has all the hallmarks of a malware infection. -- Brian *-* Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 *The Internet is so big, so powerful and pointless that for some people it is a complete substitute for life.* * * ~ Andrew Brown (1938-1994)**
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Re: whats the best version of firefox for using with old systems?
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
I the code in the 52 version was optimised for multi processor cores so it goes in jerks due to it trying to do all the tasks at the same time. There is probably a way to turn multi core support off, but I do not know what it is.
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Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, April 03, 2019 2:11 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] whats the best version of firefox for using with old systems? thanks brian for your great advice for me to use firefox 45.
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Re: Youtube in Firefox don't automatically plays video after loading Youtube
I don't have any explanation why nor any solution, but I can confirm YouTube is behaving the same for me when using Firefox. The Video page loads but does not automatically play. It started to do this yesterday.
I just tried opening a YouTube video in Internet Explorer and got this message: ‘Internet Explorer dialog This page is accessing information that is not under its control. This poses a security risk. Do you want to continue?’ Firefox does not give me that prompt but the result is the same. The page loads but I have to manually activate the play button. My conclusion is that this is a change in the YouTube programming so will, fingers crossed, get resolved before long. Giles
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Re: Google Searches
I would run the malware scanner of your choosing on your system. This has all the hallmarks of a malware infection.
-- Brian - Windows 10 Home, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763 The Internet is so big, so powerful and pointless that for some people it is a complete substitute for life.
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Re: GoldWave
Hi,
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As much as I wish to support GoldWave 5.x forever, we must move on at some point. I know what I just said is very painful for some of you, but given the pace at which technology is changing, we must find a way to keep up somehow (yes, I know this is a repeat of XP arguments from 2017). Don't worry - a version of this add-on that supports GoldWave 5.x will remain posted somewhere so folks can download it if needed. Cheers, Joseph
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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Sile via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, April 3, 2019 5:02 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] GoldWave Agreed, Later versions of Goldwave have dropped much of the functionality for working with MP3 files in particular. --Sile On 2019-04-03 3:59 a.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote: No don't do that. Many of us find the 32 bit old version superior for
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Re: whats the best version of firefox for using with old systems?
thanks brian for your great advice for me to use firefox 45.
its more fast, reliable and needs less system resources in compare to firefox 52 i believe. my laptop processor is intel, but i am really not satisfied of newer versions of firefox. one computer engineer told me that i can change user agent in mozilla firefox. i tested one time, and it did not mention again that my firefox is old and i should update it! but unfortunately my problems and not working github is not resolved for me. only it could prevents the message for updating firefox. i found how to change user agent in different browsers by searching google. hear you are the link, God bless you! https://www.howtogeek.com/113439/how-to-change-your-browsers-user-agent-without-installing-any-extensions/ On 4/3/19, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote: Well if its AMD, myself I use 45, the big problem nowadays is that many web -- By God, were I given all the seven heavens with all they contain in order that I may disobey God by depriving an ant from the husk of a grain of barley, I would not do it. imam ali
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Google Searches
Ralph Boersema
Dear Friends,
I wonder if someone can tell me what is happening with my Google searches and what I need to change. I use Windows 10 and Firefox. Since last night, whenever I do a Google search and click on a result to go to that web page, I get another Google search page instead and with every follow-up click I get another Google page.
Warmly, Ralph
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Re: GoldWave
Sile
Agreed,
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Later versions of Goldwave have dropped much of the functionality for working with MP3 files in particular. --Sile
On 2019-04-03 3:59 a.m., Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
No don't do that. Many of us find the 32 bit old version superior for what we do with it.
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Re: Selecting text in notepad
Sile
Hello Quentin
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I did a little more testing and, as you suggested, the problem is when more than 512 characters are selected. This can only happen in Notepad when word wrap is unchecked as then you can have a whole paragraph appearing as a single line of unwrapped text. If you check the word wrap option in notepad, the problem goes away. --Sile
On 2019-04-03 5:03 a.m., Sile via Groups.Io wrote:
Yes, it’s using shift up arrow or shift down arrow to select text so that you can move it.
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Re: NVDA at logon
Luke Davis
A question on this topic:
In Older days (Vista and possibly Win 7), if NVDA was not set to run on the logon screen, it would also not read UAC dialogs or applications that ran under elevated privileges. Unless that was just a fluke of my machines. Anyway, I just tested under Win 10, and found this no longer to be the case. If I remove NVDA from the logon screen, reboot and log in, it will still read UAC screens, although it does so with the saved configuration that was in effect for the "use on logon and other secure screens", as I can determine from the differing speech rate and volume. I had thought (but never had it confirmed), that in order to run on the logon and other secure screens, a separate instance of NVDA had to run. If that is the case, then the behavior I experienced in Vista seems reasonable. However if that's the case, how is it running now that I have removed NVDA from the logon screen, presumably disabling the ability for that instance to run with administrative privileges? Not that I'm complaining, but I am curious. I ask because this might in some way be related to the original question about NVDA failing to stop running on the logon screen. Then again, i could be totally off base about how this works, and it may not be related in the slightest. I also wonder if you have tried enabling it to run on the logon screen, rebooting, and then disabling it again. Luke
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Re: Weather Plus 5.0 update available
Adriano Barbieri
Hi, Just out of curiosity, you can send the log, even if this version that uses Apixu has momentarily abandoned. Thanks
Regards adriano
You can wait for the new version 6.0 that will return to using the Yahoo weather API.
Il 03/04/2019 06:09, Inam Uddin via
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