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Re: Firefox is driving me crazy!

Mallard
 

Gene,
Of course I'm discussing how FF behaves on my machine!!!
Can you imagine me discussing how it behaves on yours???? lol rofl...

I'm submitting a problem I'm experiencing, and asking whether anyone else has had similar situations and, in any case, an possible suggestions as to how to overcome this.

In any case, no problem.
I'll take care of it and won't bother you anymore.
Thanks.
Ollie

Il 10/03/2016 17:47, Gene ha scritto:
You are discussing how Firefox behaves on your machine. If Firefox behaved this way in general, you would see an avalanche of complaints and questions about it. I have no idea what the problem is. Is it a firefox problem or a screen-reader problem or a Windows problem on your specific system? No systematic testing has been done to make a determination. Since lots of editions of Firefox portable are available and since you can have as many on a machine as desired, I would suggest trying the latest and see how it works. then go back to one that you know worked on your machine and try that. You may remove or keep as many different versions on your machine as you like.
Something appears to be interfering with the calibration of
Browse mode to the actual location of links on the page. I doubt it's malware but that, too, cannot be ruled out.
I have no objection to using Chrome but Chrome isn't perfect either.
I much prefer the Firefox interface. I am not happy that, for example, history in Chrome is a web page interface. There are lots of things that are web page interfaces in Chrome that are not in Firefox. I can work with them but I find it easier and more intuitave to work with things such as lists in Firefox.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Mallard <mailto:mallard@kimabe.eu>
*Sent:* Thursday, March 10, 2016 10:30 AM
*To:* nvda@groups.io <mailto:nvda@groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Firefox is driving me crazy!

Yes, and no....
Only Firefox behaves that way. Chrome doesn't, for instance, but I'm not
very much at ease with it yet.
I'll have to switch over, if FF keeps on playing up this way, though.

Ciao,
Ollie




Il 09/03/2016 23:05, Chris Mullins ha scritto:
Have you tried the same web page in a different browser and got the same
results?

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: Mallard [mailto:mallard@kimabe.eu]
Sent: 09 March 2016 18:34
To: nvda@groups.io <mailto:nvda@groups.io>
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox is driving me crazy!

Yes Patrick,
I do use K and Shift+K too, but it happens anyway...

I've even tried bringing the mouse to focus, and double-clicking
with the
left mouse button on the numpad... The best that happens is that I
have to
click or press enter twice on a link to activate it, the worst is that
something completely diffrent opens.

It started midway through the life of FF44, and it's still here in 45...
Ciao,
Ollie




Il 09/03/2016 17:24, Patrick Le Baudour ha scritto:
Hello,

One thing to be careful of is to make sure nvda only has a link in
focus - I usually use k and shift-k to do that. When there is, for
example, a bullet then a link, then it may open something altogether.
I've been had by that several times those last weeks.

-- Patrick


Le 09/03/2016 17:01, Mallard a écrit :
Hello list,
For a week or so now, Firefox is driving me crazy.

When I click on a link on a webpage, for some reason I end up
clicking on something different from the one I had under my fingers
on my braille display or that is read by the synth.

Today I even upgraded to Firefox 45.0 to see whether the problem
could be solved, but no... Still the same.

I'm using the latest Next snapshot of NVDA, but the same thing
happens with an older version of NVDA (2015.2), so I think it might
be something in Firefox.

Has anyone experienced someghing similar?

Ciao,
Ollie













Re: good, responsive synthesizers?

Albert Ruel
 

Brian, are you willing to give me some step by step instructions on how to do as you've indicated below? I think I want to give it a go.

-----Original Message-----
From: Brian's Mail list account [mailto:bglists@blueyonder.co.uk]
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2016 11:55 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] good, responsive synthesizers?

or Quincyor Quincy :-)
One thing I have noticed on most multicore based machines is that particularly on laptops the speed is turned down for what it terms as idle.
The snag seems to be that some things, and speech and explorer navigation are often two of them, that these seem to be sluggish. I don't know if Windows 10 has this feature or not, but 7 surely does and quite a bit of lag is taken away if you modify the default processor scheme to make idle at least run at 50 percent of the clock speed, instead of the often crippling
10 per cent.
Obviously this will impact on the battery life, but to me more slick operation is worth that and if you don't use the screen, you can turn this off on a laptop and save power that way to compensate.

Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
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----- Original Message -----
From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 4:06 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] good, responsive synthesizers?


hi.
in the espeak, did you try iven3?
its very great, lovely, natural, fast and responsive and made me
completely satisfied.


On 3/10/16, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
The eloquence add on, unless it has been corrected, has lots of annoying
anomalies that shouldn't be in Eloquence. Don't buy it unless you try
the
demo first. I haven't seen anything on the list indicating that the
problems have been correct and I've seen recent messages indicating that
the
problems have not been.

Let's hope that they will be in future but they may well not be yet.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Kenny Peyattt jr.
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 9:18 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] good, responsive synthesizers?


Hi I know that eloquence addon from code factory works well with nvda and
is
responsive. There is also vocalizer adddon for nvda.
Kenny Peyatt jr.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Beaver [mailto:dbeaver888@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 9:35 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] good, responsive synthesizers?

Hi,

I have a new laptop which has windows 10 onit. It is so new that some
of the old synths I have used in the past on my old laptop won't even
install.

Now I guess I am in the market for a new synth with some new voices.

Which of those offered out there are good in response time and which
handle pronunciation of the most words correctly?

Please do not suggest ESpeak because I have tried it every release of
NVDA and I just can't deal with the voices it has.

I have been using MS David since getting this machine and it is painful
with the sluggish response times.

Thanks for any info. I hope to learn from others rather than having to
learn by painful experience.

Dan Beaver







--
O people! there has come to you indeed an admonition from your Lord
and a healing for what is in the breasts and a guidance and a mercy
for the believers.
Say: In the grace of Allah and in His mercy-- in that they should
rejoice; it is better than that which they gather.
holy quran, chapter 10 verses 57 and 58.

please visit al-islam.org



Re: Firefox is driving me crazy!

Gene
 

You are discussing how Firefox behaves on your machine.  If Firefox behaved this way in general, you would see an avalanche of complaints and questions about it.  I have no idea what the problem is.  Is it a firefox problem or a screen-reader problem or a Windows problem on your specific system?  No systematic testing has been done to make a determination.  Since lots of editions of Firefox portable are available and since you can have as many on a machine as desired, I would suggest trying the latest and see how it works.  then go back to one that you know worked on your machine and try that.  You may remove or keep as many different versions on your machine as you like. 
 
Something appears to be interfering with the calibration of
Browse mode to the actual location of links on the page.  I doubt it's malware but that, too, cannot be ruled out. 
 
I have no objection to using Chrome but Chrome isn't perfect either.  I much prefer the Firefox interface.  I am not happy that, for example, history in Chrome is a web page interface.  There are lots of things that are web page interfaces in Chrome that are not in Firefox.  I can work with them but I find it easier and more intuitave to work with things such as lists in Firefox. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Mallard
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 10:30 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox is driving me crazy!

Yes, and no....
Only Firefox behaves that way. Chrome doesn't, for instance, but I'm not
very much at ease with it yet.
I'll have to switch over, if FF keeps on playing up this way, though.

Ciao,
Ollie




Il 09/03/2016 23:05, Chris Mullins ha scritto:
> Have you tried the same web page in a different browser and got the same
> results?
>
> Cheers
> Chris
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Mallard [mailto:mallard@...]
> Sent: 09 March 2016 18:34
> To: nvda@groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox is driving me crazy!
>
> Yes Patrick,
> I do use K and Shift+K too, but it happens anyway...
>
> I've even tried bringing the mouse to focus, and double-clicking with the
> left mouse button on the numpad... The best that happens is that I have to
> click or press enter twice on a link to activate it, the worst is that
> something completely diffrent opens.
>
> It started midway through the life of FF44, and it's still here in 45...
> Ciao,
> Ollie
>
>
>
>
> Il 09/03/2016 17:24, Patrick Le Baudour ha scritto:
>> Hello,
>>
>> One thing to be careful of is to make sure nvda only has a link in
>> focus - I usually use k and shift-k to do that. When there is, for
>> example, a bullet then a link, then it may open something altogether.
>> I've been had by that several times those last weeks.
>>
>> -- Patrick
>>
>>
>> Le 09/03/2016 17:01, Mallard a écrit :
>>> Hello list,
>>> For a week or so now, Firefox is driving me crazy.
>>>
>>> When I click on a link on a webpage, for some reason I end up
>>> clicking on something different from the one I had under my fingers
>>> on my braille display or that is read by the synth.
>>>
>>> Today I even upgraded to Firefox 45.0 to see whether the problem
>>> could be solved, but no... Still the same.
>>>
>>> I'm using the latest Next snapshot of NVDA, but the same thing
>>> happens with an older version of NVDA (2015.2), so I think it might
>>> be something in Firefox.
>>>
>>> Has anyone experienced someghing similar?
>>>
>>> Ciao,
>>> Ollie
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>





Re: Firefox is driving me crazy!

Mallard
 

Yes, and no....
Only Firefox behaves that way. Chrome doesn't, for instance, but I'm not very much at ease with it yet.
I'll have to switch over, if FF keeps on playing up this way, though.

Ciao,
Ollie

Il 09/03/2016 23:05, Chris Mullins ha scritto:
Have you tried the same web page in a different browser and got the same
results?

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: Mallard [mailto:mallard@kimabe.eu]
Sent: 09 March 2016 18:34
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Firefox is driving me crazy!

Yes Patrick,
I do use K and Shift+K too, but it happens anyway...

I've even tried bringing the mouse to focus, and double-clicking with the
left mouse button on the numpad... The best that happens is that I have to
click or press enter twice on a link to activate it, the worst is that
something completely diffrent opens.

It started midway through the life of FF44, and it's still here in 45...
Ciao,
Ollie




Il 09/03/2016 17:24, Patrick Le Baudour ha scritto:
Hello,

One thing to be careful of is to make sure nvda only has a link in
focus - I usually use k and shift-k to do that. When there is, for
example, a bullet then a link, then it may open something altogether.
I've been had by that several times those last weeks.

-- Patrick


Le 09/03/2016 17:01, Mallard a écrit :
Hello list,
For a week or so now, Firefox is driving me crazy.

When I click on a link on a webpage, for some reason I end up
clicking on something different from the one I had under my fingers
on my braille display or that is read by the synth.

Today I even upgraded to Firefox 45.0 to see whether the problem
could be solved, but no... Still the same.

I'm using the latest Next snapshot of NVDA, but the same thing
happens with an older version of NVDA (2015.2), so I think it might
be something in Firefox.

Has anyone experienced someghing similar?

Ciao,
Ollie









Re: Mouse Navigation with NVDA - Do you use it? Do you like it?

Mallard
 

David,

Now I know where I'd met you before this list... Was it on the Optacon list?

Yes, the Optacon is still the most direct way to approach any printed matters or screen content, and it isn't true that it's less efficient.

When I worked at IBM, I wasn't less productive than my sighted colleagues - actually I was moer productive, if anything. That was recognised by both colleagues, boss, and users of teh service.

I used my Optacon to read the text to be translated, consult dictianries, and read teh screen.

This technical ability is now helping me a lot to profit from NVDA's capability to use a physical mouse.
Not all screen readers work well with a physical mouse, and for this I'm particularly grateful to the NVDA devs, who thought of making the programme usable in this mode also.

It's so great to have multiple choices, and technical features that integrate and complement one another.

Ciao,
Ollie

Il 09/03/2016 23:26, David Moore ha scritto:
Hi Ollie,
I am an Optacon user as well. For those who do not know, the Optacon has a small camera you roll over printed material and pins vibrate on a display that form the exact shape of the printed material. You can read any Computer screen with the Optacon, and I can feel right where the mouse pointer is and use the Optacon to read the print around the mouse pointer. One must get their hands on an Optacon. In my opinion, it is the best technology there is, but younger blind people have probably never felt one. How sad, indeed. Have a great one.

-----Original Message----- From: Mallard
Sent: Wednesday, March 9, 2016 1:29 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Mouse Navigation with NVDA - Do you use it? Do you like it?


I read something about thie Golden Cursor, but I have no clue as to
where it can be found.
Any ideas or links, please? I'd be interested...
Ciao,
Ollie




Il 09/03/2016 17:36, Aravind R ha scritto:
one add on called golden cursor helps us to navigate mouse using
keyboard by typing pixal positions.
but, we have to experiment the various pixal coordinate positions and learn

On 3/9/16, Mallard <mallard@kimabe.eu> wrote:
Hello Brian,

I use a mouse from time to time. I have been using an Optacon since 1977
(I still use it daily, especially for multilanguage book reading), so
using a physical mouse isn't all that complicated for me.
Being used to exploring physical, printed pages, certainly represents a
significant advantage in mouse use.

My main difficulty is dealing with the boundaries of the mouse pad...

Ciao,
Ollie




Il 09/03/2016 16:15, Brian Vogel ha scritto:
The subject pretty much says it all. One of the most interesting
features of NVDA from this sighted guy's perspective is mouse
tracking, which announces what's under the mouse pointer, used in
conjunction with the NVDA left and right click keystrokes (or the
actual left and right click buttons on a mouse or mousepad).

By moving the mouse around the screen you get an experience that
strikes me as far more like what someone who can see gets when they're
scanning a webpage quickly to see if there's anything that interests
them. Of course, it takes some getting used to, and you'll probably
have to do some adjustments on mouse behavior (speed and distance of
movement, coasting, and others) to get mouse movement that's
comfortable for you.

I'm just curious as to who may be using this method to cruise around
the screen, and for any program, not just web browsers, and what your
experience was like learning how to use this feature and these
methods. I realize that there are certain applications and contexts
where this would be way more trouble than it's worth, too, and
opinions on where it's worth using and not would be interesting.

My gut tells me that it will be a small cadre that uses this feature
set, but I'm trying to decide whether it's something worth trying to
teach up front or not. There's nothing like asking those who do use
it, or have tried to use it, as a functional navigation alternative to
help shape my thoughts on this.

Brian









Re: defending my self

Mallard
 

Before the thread closes, Zoe,

Hugs from me.
Ollie

Il 10/03/2016 15:40, Zoe Fiogkos ha scritto:

Sorry everyone, but I feel like I have to defend myself. I made an innocent comment on another list that obviously was misinterpreted by someone.I want the owners of this list to know I am not an advocator of illegal software.I asked for help using outlook on a windows 10 laptop and someone suggested I use my old outlook cd from my windows 7 laptop to install it now on my windows 10 laptop.I stated that someone installed it for me a long time ago and I don’t have a cd and don’t know if it’s a legal copy.We all have been there, being new to technology and letting one or more people help us with something we have no idea about.

I remember being so new at computers that when I got my first one, it just sat there for months on a desk, because I had no idea even how to turn it on.I remember hearing the terminology desktop, task bar, etc.and me scratching my head and saying to myself huh?If my outlook copy is legal or not, I have no idea.I certainly can’t be held responsible for what people did to help me over 7 years ago.I sent emails to this group asking for help on how to navigate the office.com website so that I may purchase Microsoft word and or outlook.Apparently I was kicked off another list without warning because supposedly I use illegal software.For the record this is not true.My family just spent this Christmas 850 dollars to buy me a new laptop, I continued to spend 300 dollars to upgrade my jaws licence, I spent 100 dollars to by the code factory vocalizer expressive voices for NVDA, and if I need to I will spend money to buy outlook and word.

I hope this clears up to anyone on this list who I am, and my intentions.People shouldn’t be so quick to judge and accuse.If people use illegal software that’s their choice, I am choosing not to go that route, and for someone to refuse me help and label me that way is unfair and unjust.This topic maybe irrelevant to the list and I’m sorry for that but I wanted to clear my name so that I don’t get kicked off anymore lists unfairly.

Please all accept my apologies and thank you for listening.

Regards

Zoe


Re: good, responsive synthesizers?

Dan Beaver
 

Hi,

When I go through the list of voices I only find Iven but no Iven 3. How do I find Iven 3?

Thanks.

Dan Beaver

On 3/9/2016 11:06 PM, nasrin khaksar wrote:
hi.
in the espeak, did you try iven3?
its very great, lovely, natural, fast and responsive and made me
completely satisfied.


On 3/10/16, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
The eloquence add on, unless it has been corrected, has lots of annoying
anomalies that shouldn't be in Eloquence. Don't buy it unless you try the
demo first. I haven't seen anything on the list indicating that the
problems have been correct and I've seen recent messages indicating that the
problems have not been.

Let's hope that they will be in future but they may well not be yet.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Kenny Peyattt jr.
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 9:18 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] good, responsive synthesizers?


Hi I know that eloquence addon from code factory works well with nvda and is
responsive. There is also vocalizer adddon for nvda.
Kenny Peyatt jr.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Beaver [mailto:dbeaver888@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 9:35 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] good, responsive synthesizers?

Hi,

I have a new laptop which has windows 10 onit. It is so new that some
of the old synths I have used in the past on my old laptop won't even
install.

Now I guess I am in the market for a new synth with some new voices.

Which of those offered out there are good in response time and which
handle pronunciation of the most words correctly?

Please do not suggest ESpeak because I have tried it every release of
NVDA and I just can't deal with the voices it has.

I have been using MS David since getting this machine and it is painful
with the sluggish response times.

Thanks for any info. I hope to learn from others rather than having to
learn by painful experience.

Dan Beaver







Re: want to read image pdf and copy the contents

 

hi.
yes. there is OCR addon in the nvda addons website for this goal.

On 3/10/16, Aravind R <aravind.andhrabank@gmail.com> wrote:
friends,
in jaws16, we use document ocr to read pdf on the spot and copy the
text into anywhere we want.
in NVDA, is there any add on or method to achieve the same functionality?

--
nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so.

r. aravind,

Assistant manager
Department of sales
bank of baroda retail loan factory, Chennai.
mobile no: +91 9940369593, 9710945613.
email id : aravind_069@yahoo.com, aravind.andhrabank@gmail.com.



--
O people! there has come to you indeed an admonition from your Lord
and a healing for what is in the breasts and a guidance and a mercy
for the believers.
Say: In the grace of Allah and in His mercy-- in that they should
rejoice; it is better than that which they gather.
holy quran, chapter 10 verses 57 and 58.

please visit al-islam.org


Re: Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

mr. Chikodinaka Oguledo&mrs. AdonnihHappiness Obima Oguledo
 

send mee the link in MP3 please

On 3/10/16, Governor staten <govsta@gmail.com> wrote:
This is in .mp3 format.




On 3/10/2016 10:30 AM, mr. Chikodinaka Oguledo&mrs. AdonnihHappiness
Obima Oguledo wrote:
is it in mp3 or h t m l if h t m l. I cant hear the totoureal

On 3/10/16, Supanut Leepaisomboon <supanut2000@outlook.com> wrote:
Hi,
What program did you used to record the tutorial? If the desktop is
visible,
I'd assume you use a screen recording program.


--
• Watch your thoughts, for they become words.
Watch your words, for they become actions.
Watch your actions, for they become habits.
Watch your habits, for they become character.
Watch your character, for it becomes your destiny.


Re: good, responsive synthesizers?

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

I v=cannot tell yyou in 10, as I said, only in 7, and this might cause confusion. I seem to recall a wiki on this subject on the nvda web site, can anyone help?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Lenron" <lenron93@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 8:09 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] good, responsive synthesizers?


where can I find this would love to change it.

On 3/10/16, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@blueyonder.co.uk> wrote:
or Quincyor Quincy :-)
One thing I have noticed on most multicore based machines is that
particularly on laptops the speed is turned down for what it terms as idle.

The snag seems to be that some things, and speech and explorer navigation

are often two of them, that these seem to be sluggish. I don't know if
Windows 10 has this feature or not, but 7 surely does and quite a bit of lag

is taken away if you modify the default processor scheme to make idle at
least run at 50 percent of the clock speed, instead of the often crippling

10 per cent.
Obviously this will impact on the battery life, but to me more slick
operation is worth that and if you don't use the screen, you can turn this
off on a laptop and save power that way to compensate.

Brian

bglists@blueyonder.co.uk
Sent via blueyonder.
Please address personal email to:-
briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff'
in the display name field.
----- Original Message -----
From: "nasrin khaksar" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 4:06 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] good, responsive synthesizers?


hi.
in the espeak, did you try iven3?
its very great, lovely, natural, fast and responsive and made me
completely satisfied.


On 3/10/16, Gene <gsasner@ripco.com> wrote:
The eloquence add on, unless it has been corrected, has lots of annoying
anomalies that shouldn't be in Eloquence. Don't buy it unless you try
the
demo first. I haven't seen anything on the list indicating that the
problems have been correct and I've seen recent messages indicating that

the
problems have not been.

Let's hope that they will be in future but they may well not be yet.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Kenny Peyattt jr.
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 9:18 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] good, responsive synthesizers?


Hi I know that eloquence addon from code factory works well with nvda and

is
responsive. There is also vocalizer adddon for nvda.
Kenny Peyatt jr.

-----Original Message-----
From: Dan Beaver [mailto:dbeaver888@gmail.com]
Sent: Wednesday, March 09, 2016 9:35 PM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] good, responsive synthesizers?

Hi,

I have a new laptop which has windows 10 onit. It is so new that some
of the old synths I have used in the past on my old laptop won't even
install.

Now I guess I am in the market for a new synth with some new voices.

Which of those offered out there are good in response time and which
handle pronunciation of the most words correctly?

Please do not suggest ESpeak because I have tried it every release of
NVDA and I just can't deal with the voices it has.

I have been using MS David since getting this machine and it is painful
with the sluggish response times.

Thanks for any info. I hope to learn from others rather than having to
learn by painful experience.

Dan Beaver







--
O people! there has come to you indeed an admonition from your Lord
and a healing for what is in the breasts and a guidance and a mercy
for the believers.
Say: In the grace of Allah and in His mercy-- in that they should
rejoice; it is better than that which they gather.
holy quran, chapter 10 verses 57 and 58.

please visit al-islam.org






--
Lenron Brown
Cell: 985-271-2832
Skype: ron.brown762


Re: Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

 

This is in .mp3 format.




On 3/10/2016 10:30 AM, mr. Chikodinaka Oguledo&mrs. AdonnihHappiness
Obima Oguledo wrote:
is it in mp3 or h t m l if h t m l. I cant hear the totoureal

On 3/10/16, Supanut Leepaisomboon <supanut2000@outlook.com> wrote:
Hi,
What program did you used to record the tutorial? If the desktop is visible,
I'd assume you use a screen recording program.


Re: Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

mr. Chikodinaka Oguledo&mrs. AdonnihHappiness Obima Oguledo
 

is it in mp3 or h t m l if h t m l. I cant hear the totoureal

On 3/10/16, Supanut Leepaisomboon <supanut2000@outlook.com> wrote:
Hi,
What program did you used to record the tutorial? If the desktop is visible,
I'd assume you use a screen recording program.
--
• Watch your thoughts, for they become words.
Watch your words, for they become actions.
Watch your actions, for they become habits.
Watch your habits, for they become character.
Watch your character, for it becomes your destiny.


want to read image pdf and copy the contents

Aravind R
 

friends,
in jaws16, we use document ocr to read pdf on the spot and copy the
text into anywhere we want.
in NVDA, is there any add on or method to achieve the same functionality?

--
nothing is difficult unless you make it appear so.

r. aravind,

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Re: Antivirus

 

Hi,

I just gave Sophos Home Cloud Antivirus a try, and I must say, it's reasonably accessible with NVDA, from what I tried in a virtual machine (although it lags, but that's normal for a virtual machine). It's web-based control panel, too, is accessible (at least with Jaws). As Sophos is a company that makes cloud protection sollution for businesses, I would expect the home edition of its cloud antivirus to be equally good, in terms of the level of protection.

P.S I've given up on Nod32, after learning from one of my university staff that I can only update it when my computer is connected to the campus's wi-fi network, which is impossible for my desktop computer at home.


Re: Mouse Navigation with NVDA - Do you use it? Do you like it?

Patrick Le Baudour
 

Hello,

I do maximize the windows... when it is possible, but the less accessible things often are custom-made dialogs that can't be resized.
I had forgotten those bars could be hidden, though. I'll have to do that.

I've had to use it today on a java app that is basically not accessible with the keybord (not that I expected it to, it is a client for a go playing

and chat server that i used to go on a lot when I had sight.).
I had to move the mouse to locate and read me tabs, chat lines, buttons... i guess it was experience enough for me to change my mind a bit, it is workable especially with the bips for coordinated help, but it'll take some time not to be annoyed too much by those beeps.I'll still use the keybord only most of the time, but I may think more easily of the mouse as an alternative now.

Le 09/03/2016 18:36, Brian Vogel a écrit :
On Wed, Mar 9, 2016 at 09:23 am, Patrick Le Baudour
<p.lebaudour@gmail.com> wrote:

I find it difficult not to be lost and finding a specific item on a
big screen

Patrick, just curious, but do you have the window for the program in
question maximized such that it covers the entire physical screen? That
can at least make things a bit easier since you're not "falling off the
edge" of your program with the exception of hitting the taskbar or
system tray if you keep those visible at all times.

Brian


Re: Tutorial on using the Gmail Web View with NVDA

 

    Hi,
What program did you used to record the tutorial? If the desktop is visible, I'd assume you use a screen recording program.


Re: defending my self

 

Hello Zoe,

Sorry to hear about what you went through. Please write to me and Nimer offlist (at nvda+owner@groups.io) and I’ll try my best to talk to the owner of another list on your behalf. When you do file a report with us (moderators offlist), be sure to tell us the entire story (what you said and responses from the members of the list you were removed; I promise confidentiality).

As it stands, due to sensitive nature of this, this thread will be closed (not that we are against Zoe, but to let Zoe recover from this incident).

 

From: Zoe Fiogkos [mailto:fiogkos@...]
Sent: Thursday, March 10, 2016 6:40 AM
To: nvda@groups.io
Subject: [nvda] defending my self

 

Sorry everyone, but I feel like I have to defend myself. I made an innocent comment on another  list that obviously was misinterpreted by someone.  I want the owners of this list to know I am not an advocator of illegal software.  I asked for help using outlook on a windows 10 laptop and someone suggested I use my old outlook cd from my windows 7 laptop to install it now on my windows 10 laptop.  I stated that someone installed it for me a long time ago and I don’t have a cd and don’t know if it’s a legal copy.  We all have been there, being new to technology and letting one or more people help us with something we have no idea about.

I remember being so new at computers that when I got my first one, it just sat there for months on a desk, because I had no idea even how to turn it on.  I remember hearing the terminology desktop, task bar, etc.  and me scratching my head and saying to myself huh?  If my outlook copy is legal or not, I have no idea.  I certainly can’t be held responsible for what people did to help me over 7 years ago.  I sent emails to this group asking for help on how to navigate the office.com website so that I may purchase Microsoft word and or outlook.  Apparently I was kicked off another list without warning because supposedly I use illegal software.  For the record this is not true.  My family just spent this Christmas 850 dollars to buy me a new laptop, I continued to spend 300 dollars to upgrade my jaws licence, I spent 100 dollars to by the code factory vocalizer expressive voices for NVDA, and if I need to I will spend money to buy outlook and word. 

I hope this clears up to anyone on this list who I am, and my intentions.  People shouldn’t be so quick to judge and accuse.  If people use illegal software that’s their choice, I am choosing not to go that route, and for someone to refuse me help and label me that way is unfair and unjust.  This topic maybe irrelevant to the list and I’m sorry for that but I wanted to clear my name so that I don’t get kicked off anymore lists unfairly.

Please all accept my apologies and thank you for listening.

Regards

Zoe

 


Re: defending my self

Gwensinfo
 

The licensing for how many machines one can install on can also be confusing. What muddies the waters further is that some software will allow you to install itself on more than one machine, some will not. That can also get extremely confusing

Gwen and the great Orb
sent from my iPhone 5s
"a dog has many friends because he wags his tail and not his tongue  "
Anonymous"

On Mar 10, 2016, at 9:40 AM, Zoe Fiogkos <fiogkos@...> wrote:

Sorry everyone, but I feel like I have to defend myself. I made an innocent comment on another  list that obviously was misinterpreted by someone.  I want the owners of this list to know I am not an advocator of illegal software.  I asked for help using outlook on a windows 10 laptop and someone suggested I use my old outlook cd from my windows 7 laptop to install it now on my windows 10 laptop.  I stated that someone installed it for me a long time ago and I don’t have a cd and don’t know if it’s a legal copy.  We all have been there, being new to technology and letting one or more people help us with something we have no idea about.

I remember being so new at computers that when I got my first one, it just sat there for months on a desk, because I had no idea even how to turn it on.  I remember hearing the terminology desktop, task bar, etc.  and me scratching my head and saying to myself huh?  If my outlook copy is legal or not, I have no idea.  I certainly can’t be held responsible for what people did to help me over 7 years ago.  I sent emails to this group asking for help on how to navigate the office.com website so that I may purchase Microsoft word and or outlook.  Apparently I was kicked off another list without warning because supposedly I use illegal software.  For the record this is not true.  My family just spent this Christmas 850 dollars to buy me a new laptop, I continued to spend 300 dollars to upgrade my jaws licence, I spent 100 dollars to by the code factory vocalizer expressive voices for NVDA, and if I need to I will spend money to buy outlook and word. 

I hope this clears up to anyone on this list who I am, and my intentions.  People shouldn’t be so quick to judge and accuse.  If people use illegal software that’s their choice, I am choosing not to go that route, and for someone to refuse me help and label me that way is unfair and unjust.  This topic maybe irrelevant to the list and I’m sorry for that but I wanted to clear my name so that I don’t get kicked off anymore lists unfairly.

Please all accept my apologies and thank you for listening.

Regards

Zoe

 


Re: defending my self

Gwensinfo
 

You have excellent points. I support your position. When were first expose the computers were not quite sure what footing were on in many cases. And particularly if someone build you a computer. You have the faith that they're doing the right thing which one my brother Bill mine he gave me software. But who knows. There are some great areas. Not everything is black-and-white.

Gwen and the great Orb
sent from my iPhone 5s
"a dog has many friends because he wags his tail and not his tongue  "
Anonymous"

On Mar 10, 2016, at 9:40 AM, Zoe Fiogkos <fiogkos@...> wrote:

Sorry everyone, but I feel like I have to defend myself. I made an innocent comment on another  list that obviously was misinterpreted by someone.  I want the owners of this list to know I am not an advocator of illegal software.  I asked for help using outlook on a windows 10 laptop and someone suggested I use my old outlook cd from my windows 7 laptop to install it now on my windows 10 laptop.  I stated that someone installed it for me a long time ago and I don’t have a cd and don’t know if it’s a legal copy.  We all have been there, being new to technology and letting one or more people help us with something we have no idea about.

I remember being so new at computers that when I got my first one, it just sat there for months on a desk, because I had no idea even how to turn it on.  I remember hearing the terminology desktop, task bar, etc.  and me scratching my head and saying to myself huh?  If my outlook copy is legal or not, I have no idea.  I certainly can’t be held responsible for what people did to help me over 7 years ago.  I sent emails to this group asking for help on how to navigate the office.com website so that I may purchase Microsoft word and or outlook.  Apparently I was kicked off another list without warning because supposedly I use illegal software.  For the record this is not true.  My family just spent this Christmas 850 dollars to buy me a new laptop, I continued to spend 300 dollars to upgrade my jaws licence, I spent 100 dollars to by the code factory vocalizer expressive voices for NVDA, and if I need to I will spend money to buy outlook and word. 

I hope this clears up to anyone on this list who I am, and my intentions.  People shouldn’t be so quick to judge and accuse.  If people use illegal software that’s their choice, I am choosing not to go that route, and for someone to refuse me help and label me that way is unfair and unjust.  This topic maybe irrelevant to the list and I’m sorry for that but I wanted to clear my name so that I don’t get kicked off anymore lists unfairly.

Please all accept my apologies and thank you for listening.

Regards

Zoe

 


defending my self

Zoe Fiogkos <fiogkos@...>
 

Sorry everyone, but I feel like I have to defend myself. I made an innocent comment on another  list that obviously was misinterpreted by someone.  I want the owners of this list to know I am not an advocator of illegal software.  I asked for help using outlook on a windows 10 laptop and someone suggested I use my old outlook cd from my windows 7 laptop to install it now on my windows 10 laptop.  I stated that someone installed it for me a long time ago and I don’t have a cd and don’t know if it’s a legal copy.  We all have been there, being new to technology and letting one or more people help us with something we have no idea about.

I remember being so new at computers that when I got my first one, it just sat there for months on a desk, because I had no idea even how to turn it on.  I remember hearing the terminology desktop, task bar, etc.  and me scratching my head and saying to myself huh?  If my outlook copy is legal or not, I have no idea.  I certainly can’t be held responsible for what people did to help me over 7 years ago.  I sent emails to this group asking for help on how to navigate the office.com website so that I may purchase Microsoft word and or outlook.  Apparently I was kicked off another list without warning because supposedly I use illegal software.  For the record this is not true.  My family just spent this Christmas 850 dollars to buy me a new laptop, I continued to spend 300 dollars to upgrade my jaws licence, I spent 100 dollars to by the code factory vocalizer expressive voices for NVDA, and if I need to I will spend money to buy outlook and word. 

I hope this clears up to anyone on this list who I am, and my intentions.  People shouldn’t be so quick to judge and accuse.  If people use illegal software that’s their choice, I am choosing not to go that route, and for someone to refuse me help and label me that way is unfair and unjust.  This topic maybe irrelevant to the list and I’m sorry for that but I wanted to clear my name so that I don’t get kicked off anymore lists unfairly.

Please all accept my apologies and thank you for listening.

Regards

Zoe