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Re: Download link for NVDA 15.3

蔡宗豪 Victor Cai
 

Hi,
Please download from:
https://www.nvaccess.org/download/nvda/releases/2015.3/nvda_2015.3.exe

Thanks.

2016-07-04 5:33 GMT+08:00, Jenine Stanley <dragonwalker64@...>:

Can someone send me a link to download NVDA 15.3? I still can’t get 16.2 to
work with either web browser I’m using. It’s completely stuck in browse mode
and nothing I’ve tried seems to budge it. I have to be able to use the
internet so need to go back a version or two of NVDA.

Thanks@!
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalker64@...







Download link for NVDA 15.3

Jenine Stanley
 

Can someone send me a link to download NVDA 15.3? I still can’t get 16.2 to work with either web browser I’m using. It’s completely stuck in browse mode and nothing I’ve tried seems to budge it. I have to be able to use the internet so need to go back a version or two of NVDA.

Thanks@!
Jenine Stanley
dragonwalker64@...


Re: Tiflotecnia vocalizer update

Life My Way
 

do you know which new voices will be included in this update?

On 7/3/2016 10:50 AM, Rui Fontes wrote:
There will be no discount, since the upgrade from Vocalizer Expressive 3.0
will be free.

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.

-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Nimer Jaber
Data: domingo, 3 de julho de 2016 06:39
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] Tiflotecnia vocalizer update


Hello,

Will there be a discount for those of us that purchased the previous version
of the voices?

Thanks.


On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 8:46 PM Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...>
wrote:
Hello!

We want to release it in 2 weeks...

Nathan will be included in the new voices.

Regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Greg Wocher
Data: sábado, 2 de julho de 2016 16:19
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [nvda] Tiflotecnia vocalizer update

Hello,

I thought there was suppose to be an update to the Tiflotecnia vocalizer
last month in June. Did this happen? I was also wondering if the Nathan
voice is one of the new ones added? I have been trialing a Sapi version
of it and I really like it.


Regards,

Greg Wocher














Mark the dates: Asian NVDA conference on the 9th and 10th of July – TTS support, Switching to NVDA, Connecting and Contributing to NVDA and much more

Bhavya shah
 

Dear all,
It is happening – NVDACon Asia, the Non Visual Desktop Access Users
and Developers Conference Asian region is to take place on the 9th and
10th of July, 2016, i.e. next weekend, featuring a packed format of
six sessions spread across the course of a Saturday and Sunday, with
close to 8 hours of avid networking and conferencing, learning and
teaching, giving and taking of experiences and information, between
NVDA users spanning geographies throughout the Asian continent.
After two months of our hard work and constant support of passionate
community members, we, at the NVDACon Asia task force and discussion
group have been able to bring NVDACon Asia to life, to reality, and
that too a promising one!
The conference schedule goes thus:
Session 1User General Chat (Opener Forum) Public Discussion on July 9,
2016 6:30 pm PKT (9/7/2016, 7:00:00 PM India Standard Time)
Session 2 Switching From JAWS To NVDA by Ashish Singla, Ashik Hirani
on July 9, 2016 8:00 pm PKT (9/7/2016, 8:30:00 PM India Standard Time)
Session 3 Connecting To Wider NVDA Communities and Contributing To
NVDA by Bhavya Shah, Waqas Ramzan on July 9, 2016 9:30 pm PKT
(9/7/2016, 10:00:00 PM India Standard Time)
Session 4 Blind Help Project by BlindHelp Team on July 10, 2016 5:30
pm PKT (10/7/2016, 6:00:00 PM India Standard Time)
Session 5 Asian Language Reading Tools (Text to Speech Support) by
Mahesh Khosla on July 10, 2016 6:30 pm PKT (10/7/2016, 7:00:00 PM
India Standard Time)
Session 6 Keynote Address by Dinesh Kaushal, Manish Agarwal, Manshul
Belani (NVDA India team) on July 10, 2016 7:30 pm PKT (10/7/2016,
8:00:00 PM India Standard Time)

With a host of very dignified individuals presenting sessions at
NVDACon Asia, it is an honour for us to have them, and we would also
like to usher you all into the bandwagon to begin your journey with us
NVDA users now, to start your NVDA usage now, so that all of us Asians
can be empowered by employing this free, open source,
community-driven, flexible and powerful Microsoft Windows screen
reader called NVDA.
You can participate in the conference live at the actual hosting
platform Teamtalk, or as an alternative resort, listen to RadioUdaan’s
live stream of NVDACon Asia and participate via Skype. Details about
these and a lot of other exciting things coming up in NVDACon Asia
will be steadily disclosed as this week progresses, but all details
can be acquired and read from NVDACon Asia’s web home at BlindHelp
Project at http://blindhelp.tk/nvdaconasia
In case of queries or doubts about anything, feel free to directly
contact bhavya.shah125@..., or any of the other contact details
of other NVDACon Asia organizers available at
http://blindhelp.tk/nvdaconasia/contactus
Looking forward to meeting many of you at NVDACon Asia 2016!
Best Regards,
NVDACon Asia Planning Committee

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http://www.nvaccess.org/
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Skype id : bhavya.09


Re: the Nathan voice and issues with restarting NVDA with Espeak

 

Too true. This is a really sad state of things.

On 7/3/2016 1:28 PM, Tyler Spivey wrote:
Voice manufacturers have an interest in making their voices sound human,
and trying to expand abbreviations, dates, etc. Some synthesizers
provide a way to turn this off programmatically, others don't.
Of the ones that do, it's up to the driver developer to do this.
As end users, we're a few levels down and sometimes don't get the tools
and documentation to customize our synthesizer to the fullest extent
possible. For example, disabling abbreviations or adding dictionary
entries for mispronounced words (the NVDA dictionary doesn't count).

On 7/3/2016 9:48 AM, Governor staten wrote:
Why do voices like Nathan take numbers 2.7, and turn them into February
7? It's more than mildly annoying to me when reading some program's
version number to hear a date. There is probably some simple way to fix
this, but.




On 7/3/2016 12:32 PM, Governor staten wrote:
I'll attach it here, since it is quite small. Since this log, I
uninstalled the ovice and restarted NVDA, and I have Espeak back.





On 7/3/2016 11:49 AM, Rui Fontes wrote:
Hi!

Please send a log file to me, and I will try to see whats the problem...


Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Governor staten
Data: domingo, 3 de julho de 2016 05:47
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [nvda] the Nathan voice and issues with restarting NVDA with Espeak

I just installed the new Nathan voice that has been tlaked about on this
list. Now, I cannot seem to switch back to Espeak. It runs silent when I
do so. Other issues have arrisen as well. I do not hear the sound when
I'm entering into focus mode or when I leave focus mode and go into
browse mode. Any help with this one would be appreciated. I"m running
the latest Next snapshot.












Re: reading the help files in open office

 

hi.
if you check report object discription in preferences, object
presentation (which is checked by default), when you navigate in the
menu and settings, for most of them, nvda says there discriptions and
usage.
i think its be only way to become familiar with its discriptions and i
think the content of its help, its not accessible for us, or at least,
i dont have a solution for it.

On 7/3/16, Rosemarie Chavarria <knitqueen2007@...> wrote:
Hi, everyone,



I can get to the help pages ok but how do I read one? I'd like to read the
help file for open office writer.



Thanks for your help in advance.



Rosemarie





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Re: the Nathan voice and issues with restarting NVDA with Espeak

Tyler Spivey
 

Voice manufacturers have an interest in making their voices sound human,
and trying to expand abbreviations, dates, etc. Some synthesizers
provide a way to turn this off programmatically, others don't.
Of the ones that do, it's up to the driver developer to do this.
As end users, we're a few levels down and sometimes don't get the tools
and documentation to customize our synthesizer to the fullest extent
possible. For example, disabling abbreviations or adding dictionary
entries for mispronounced words (the NVDA dictionary doesn't count).

On 7/3/2016 9:48 AM, Governor staten wrote:
Why do voices like Nathan take numbers 2.7, and turn them into February
7? It's more than mildly annoying to me when reading some program's
version number to hear a date. There is probably some simple way to fix
this, but.




On 7/3/2016 12:32 PM, Governor staten wrote:
I'll attach it here, since it is quite small. Since this log, I
uninstalled the ovice and restarted NVDA, and I have Espeak back.





On 7/3/2016 11:49 AM, Rui Fontes wrote:
Hi!

Please send a log file to me, and I will try to see whats the problem...


Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Governor staten
Data: domingo, 3 de julho de 2016 05:47
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [nvda] the Nathan voice and issues with restarting NVDA with Espeak

I just installed the new Nathan voice that has been tlaked about on this
list. Now, I cannot seem to switch back to Espeak. It runs silent when I
do so. Other issues have arrisen as well. I do not hear the sound when
I'm entering into focus mode or when I leave focus mode and go into
browse mode. Any help with this one would be appreciated. I"m running
the latest Next snapshot.













reading the help files in open office

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, everyone,

 

I can get to the help pages ok but how do I read one? I'd like to read the help file for open office writer.

 

Thanks for your help in advance.

 

Rosemarie

 

 


voice samples

Bobby <bvinton@...>
 

I would really like to hear the nathin voice. Ware can I find a sample of this voice before I down load it.


Re: the Nathan voice and issues with restarting NVDA with Espeak

 

Why do voices like Nathan take numbers 2.7, and turn them into February
7? It's more than mildly annoying to me when reading some program's
version number to hear a date. There is probably some simple way to fix
this, but.

On 7/3/2016 12:32 PM, Governor staten wrote:
I'll attach it here, since it is quite small. Since this log, I
uninstalled the ovice and restarted NVDA, and I have Espeak back.





On 7/3/2016 11:49 AM, Rui Fontes wrote:
Hi!

Please send a log file to me, and I will try to see whats the problem...


Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Governor staten
Data: domingo, 3 de julho de 2016 05:47
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [nvda] the Nathan voice and issues with restarting NVDA with Espeak

I just installed the new Nathan voice that has been tlaked about on this
list. Now, I cannot seem to switch back to Espeak. It runs silent when I
do so. Other issues have arrisen as well. I do not hear the sound when
I'm entering into focus mode or when I leave focus mode and go into
browse mode. Any help with this one would be appreciated. I"m running
the latest Next snapshot.











Re: the Nathan voice and issues with restarting NVDA with Espeak

 

I'll attach it here, since it is quite small. Since this log, I
uninstalled the ovice and restarted NVDA, and I have Espeak back.

On 7/3/2016 11:49 AM, Rui Fontes wrote:
Hi!

Please send a log file to me, and I will try to see whats the problem...


Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Governor staten
Data: domingo, 3 de julho de 2016 05:47
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [nvda] the Nathan voice and issues with restarting NVDA with Espeak

I just installed the new Nathan voice that has been tlaked about on this
list. Now, I cannot seem to switch back to Espeak. It runs silent when I
do so. Other issues have arrisen as well. I do not hear the sound when
I'm entering into focus mode or when I leave focus mode and go into
browse mode. Any help with this one would be appreciated. I"m running
the latest Next snapshot.










Re: Tiflotecnia vocalizer update

Greg Wocher
 

Hello,

This is good news. I really like the Nathan voice. I am eagerly awaiting the update.


Regards,

Greg Wocher

On 7/3/2016 11:50 AM, Rui Fontes wrote:
There will be no discount, since the upgrade from Vocalizer Expressive 3.0
will be free.

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.

-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Nimer Jaber
Data: domingo, 3 de julho de 2016 06:39
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] Tiflotecnia vocalizer update


Hello,

Will there be a discount for those of us that purchased the previous version
of the voices?

Thanks.


On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 8:46 PM Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...>
wrote:
Hello!

We want to release it in 2 weeks...

Nathan will be included in the new voices.

Regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Greg Wocher
Data: sábado, 2 de julho de 2016 16:19
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [nvda] Tiflotecnia vocalizer update

Hello,

I thought there was suppose to be an update to the Tiflotecnia vocalizer
last month in June. Did this happen? I was also wondering if the Nathan
voice is one of the new ones added? I have been trialing a Sapi version
of it and I really like it.


Regards,

Greg Wocher













Re: Tiflotecnia vocalizer update

Rui Fontes
 

There will be no discount, since the upgrade from Vocalizer Expressive 3.0
will be free.

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.

-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Nimer Jaber
Data: domingo, 3 de julho de 2016 06:39
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: Re: [nvda] Tiflotecnia vocalizer update


Hello,

Will there be a discount for those of us that purchased the previous version
of the voices?

Thanks.

On Sat, Jul 2, 2016 at 8:46 PM Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...>
wrote:
Hello!

We want to release it in 2 weeks...

Nathan will be included in the new voices.

Regards,

Rui Fontes
Tiflotecnia, Lda.


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Greg Wocher
Data: sbado, 2 de julho de 2016 16:19
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [nvda] Tiflotecnia vocalizer update

Hello,

I thought there was suppose to be an update to the Tiflotecnia vocalizer
last month in June. Did this happen? I was also wondering if the Nathan
voice is one of the new ones added? I have been trialing a Sapi version
of it and I really like it.


Regards,

Greg Wocher


Re: the Nathan voice and issues with restarting NVDA with Espeak

Rui Fontes
 

Hi!

Please send a log file to me, and I will try to see whats the problem...


Rui


-----Mensagem Original-----
De: Governor staten
Data: domingo, 3 de julho de 2016 05:47
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Assunto: [nvda] the Nathan voice and issues with restarting NVDA with Espeak

I just installed the new Nathan voice that has been tlaked about on this
list. Now, I cannot seem to switch back to Espeak. It runs silent when I
do so. Other issues have arrisen as well. I do not hear the sound when
I'm entering into focus mode or when I leave focus mode and go into
browse mode. Any help with this one would be appreciated. I"m running
the latest Next snapshot.


Re: [NVDA] NVDA and Windows 10

Chris
 

And now are very happy with their new windows 10 pc, thankyou microsoft!

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian's
Mail list account
Sent: 03 July 2016 13:37
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [NVDA] NVDA and Windows 10

Yes the funny red x ting isnowbeing added to by a no don't update button
according to TechTalk from rnib this week assomebody in the states took
Microsoft to court over lost income and work when the auto update failed.
They settledout of courrt for 10000 dollars I understand.
Hence the sudden U turn on compulsary updating.
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 9:52 AM
Subject: Re: [NVDA] NVDA and Windows 10


All I can tell you is that our charity office had the we are going to
update your machine to windows 10 on, and a date, is this OK to the
operator hit no, and went and had a cup of tea, only to find it mid way
into the update when she got back. Another machine said this so they
answered yes and nothing happened until everyone had forgotten and the
date came and it started to update.
Myself I have now used never 10 on the two machines running 7, though
since removing the windows update that cased the nags I've not seen this
prompt as described. its got something also to do with that setting
windows anytime upgrade as well I am told but I turned off messages ago. I
now have a very long list of not critical but suggested updates I could
install. it installs the critical ones without asking of course.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Antony Stone" <Antony.Stone@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 9:43 AM
Subject: Re: [NVDA] NVDA and Windows 10


Are you suggesting that Microsoft will at some point forcibly upgrade
people's
machines from Windows 7 or 8 to Windows 10?

I know there's a free upgrade available, but it's the user's choice
whether to
accept it.

If Microsoft have stated that this will one day become a compulsory
upgrade,
please point me to any reference confirming this.


Thanks,


Antony.

On Friday 01 July 2016 at 10:30:16, Shaun Everiss wrote:

One thing though, nvda is going to have to support win10 by the time it
upgrades because home users will get it automatically.
--
I conclude that there are two ways of constructing a software design: One
way
is to make it so simple that there are _obviously_ no deficiencies, and
the
other way is to make it so complicated that there are no _obvious_
deficiencies.

- C A R Hoare

Please reply to the
list;
please *don't* CC
me.





Re: [NVDA] NVDA and Windows 10

Lenron
 

I use 10 on the daily no major issues. I am also running the latest
insider build as well. I just wish for a new pc running 10 out of the
box.

On 7/3/16, Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...> wrote:
They are giving 'disabled users' an extra free month I understand, but how
do they know? Presumably this is via their soopa Snoopa routines.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Shaun Everiss" <@smeveriss>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 1:01 PM
Subject: Re: [NVDA] NVDA and Windows 10


Which is why I havn't bothered upgrading.with 3 or so weeks left I won't
be upgrading.
And if this continues I may never upgrade again at all security be
damned.
10 started out as something large, and cool, but there are just to many
things wrong with it to call it a good os.



On 2/07/2016 8:43 p.m., Brian's Mail list account wrote:
For the record and reading some of the chatter elsewhere there seems to
be
several issues here. Firstly, the dodgy access does not just affect
nvda, it
tends to affect all the screenreaders. There is an inferred criticism
from
Microsoft that they should be using the new api developed for Edge etc,
to
get around these issues not the older uia or msaa. However as has been
pointed out by manufacturers of the screenreaders, since the Edge api
has been buggy and altered so often, it would mean continual updates of
the screenreaders when it got broken, so best to use thedevil you know.
The real issue from my point of view as an outsider is that Microsoft
should have actually got this working properly before they unleashed the
operating system at all, so its all their fault,but that is me saying
that, and I'm not party to secret discussions behind the scenes.
There has been and still is a rumour circulating that Windows will have
its own inbuilt screenreader 'shortly'.
However if the evolution seen or rather not seen in Narrator is anything
to go by, its not even close yet.
Maybe they are buying the rights to Window Eyes instead who knows.

I have one machine with 10 on it and it is not so much the lack of
accessibility I find annoying but the way it seems to stop you doing
many things you should be able to do as an admin in the past, and of
course the reliance on those tonka toy designed ribbon menues.
Brian


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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 9:38 AM
Subject: Re: [NVDA] NVDA and Windows 10


Hello,


Just for a little perspective, I'm running a Macbook Air with Windows 10
since about a month after Windows 10 came out, and of course, my screen
access is NVDA. I'm quite happy with it.


What doesn't work, I just avoid. Even so, I think it works just fine.


js




On 7/1/16 9:30, Shaun Everiss wrote:
One thing though, nvda is going to have to support win10 by the time it
upgrades because home users will get it automatically.
I can defur the systems I have on pro into the non upgrade branch for a
time but as I can't justify defuring a remote for the only reason that
I
can't access it since I only maintain those, I would like to have the
systems I let upgrade, upgraded so I could see what was what.
The only good thing is as long as search works, the settings app, ie,
and
the desktop I could get buy while you worked with things.



On 1/07/2016 8:06 p.m., Brian's Mail list account wrote:
One of the options seems to be that new versions of win 10 come along
and break accessibility in some cases.
I don't think this occurs though if you just take windows updates and
not whole new builds such as insiders get.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "蔡宗豪 Victor Cai"
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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, July 01, 2016 3:13 AM
Subject: [NVDA] NVDA and Windows 10


Hi all,
Windows10 has been released for almost one year. Is this still the
case?

Here is a quote from NV Access (Last update: 5 April 2016 00:25 UTC):
we recommend that most users delay upgrading to or purchasing a
computer with Windows 10 until further notice.
resource from:
http://www.nvaccess.org/win10/

Regards,

Victor Cai

















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Re: NVDA with which anti-virus

Gene
 

I didn't say that detection of malware is guaranteed.  I am trying to point out logical errors that are common when people discuss antimalware programs and to give people ideas on how to get information about programs that are reported as accessible.  I didn't say that any program is guaranteed to find all malware.  But you can find significant differences among programs in properly done reviews. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2016 7:58 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with which anti-virus

To be fair though, no matter which anti virus you use, there is always going
to be some risk of infection as virus writers strive to get around the
detection systems used.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2016 12:47 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with which anti-virus


Windows Defender is almost identical to MSEE.  It is a renamed and hardly
altered program for Windows 10.  It has the same contraversey as does MSEE
about its effectiveness.

Gene


From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 6:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with which anti-virus


Hi, Joe,

I used to use MSE when I was running windows 7. Now that I have windows 10,
I use windows defender.

Hope this helps.

Rosemarie



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joe
Paton
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 2:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA with which anti-virus

Hello,

Which anti-virus is most accessible with nvda, running windows 7 64-bit?

I've have serious access issues with eset's nod32, so much so, that where
there an infultration, nvda would be unable to assist.

So what do folks use please?

Thanks.

p.s. if you've seen a similar post before, My mistake because I didn't see
my post so suspect these are not getting through.

Joe











Re: antivirus / i use a v g

Gene
 

The whole point of well designed malware is that it runs without causing any unusual behaviors to alert the user that there may be a problem.  You can't assume that no odd behaviors means no infections.  often, you do not have any such behaviors. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2016 7:56 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] antivirus / i use a v g

OK well I think that if you did get something nasty it would show itself in
other ways. However I'd also like to find something I can put on a stick and
shove in, having updated it on another machine and run a manual scan for
confidence sake. Does anyone know of such a program?
 Brian

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Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2016 12:45 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] antivirus / i use a v g


How do all the people who say it works fine for me know.  You don't know if
you only scan with the program you are using.  Saying it works fine for me
means nothing.  I could install the worst antimalware program in existence
and, if it is accessible, I could scan my system regularly.  No matter how
poor a job it did, if it indicates that my machine is free of malware, I
could then write that it does a good job.  This is classic circular
reasoning.  The only way to know if a program is protecting you reasonably
well, aside from reading reliable reviews, is to have something you know is
good scan your computer such as an on line scanner or more than one.  Such
comments as MSEe works fine for me are meaningless unless we know what they
are based on.  MSEE is considered by many knowledgeable computer advisors to
be a substandard program.  Is it good enough to protect people from the
threats they are likely to run into?  I don't know but if you are
considering using it, you should know that it scores very low in detection
tests, or it did last I saw anything about this six months or a year ago.
those interested can check to see what the current situation is.  I doubt
it's changed much.  .

You cannot make an informed decision based on comments such as it works well
for me.  What does that mean and how are people determining that it works
well for them.

The Essett online scanner was quite reasonably accessible when I tried it
awhile ago.  I don't know what the current state of the program is.  People
are discussing various programs and no one, to my recollection is giving any
meaningful evaluations of how the programs work such as from properly done
reviews or based on what their program finds compared to on line scanners
and malware bytes.

Without such discussions, you may be able to get a good idea of the quality
of various programs users consider accessible enough to use by doing
searches for reviews of specific names of programs.  For example, if AVG is
said to work well and be accessible by a user, do a Google search for AVG
review.  Look at what reputable sites say.  If you don't know what sites are
reputable, asking here may get you information.  the information from these
sorts of list discussions may help you know which programs are accessible.
But such list discussions, in my experience, seldom give any or hardly any
information about the quality of such programs that can be evaluated in a
meaningful way.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Pauline Smith
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 5:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] antivirus / i use a v g


I also use MSE.  It works fine for me.  I'm not sure if I will have to
use a different program once Windows 10 is installed.


Pauline



On 7/1/2016 1:41 PM, Arlene wrote:
> Hi, I use mse it works fine for me. I did use avg and it got very
> inaccisable.
>
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> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Angela
> Delicata
> Sent: July-01-16 10:18 AM
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: Re: [nvda] antivirus / i use a v g
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> AVG is the worst I have ever used.
>
>
> Il 01/07/2016 19:11, Richard Kuzma via Groups.io ha scritto:
>
>> I use avg and it works pretty good for me
>>
>>
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> Questa e-mail è stata controllata per individuare virus con Avast
> antivirus.
> https://www.avast.com/antivirus
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Re: the Nathan voice and issues with restarting NVDA with Espeak

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I never put on 64 bit voices and drivers, I've had too many weird things occur with them in the past.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Kostadin Kolev" <@k_kolev1985>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2016 7:15 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] the Nathan voice and issues with restarting NVDA with Espeak


Hello,

I think at least some of the problems described by you are related to this issue:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/3986
The issue has been filed for a specific TTS voice, but apparently it can affect other TTS voices that have a 64-bit version installed on a 64-bit machine.

______
Best wishes,
Kostadin Kolev



На 3.7.2016 г. в 7:47, Governor staten написа:

I just installed the new Nathan voice that has been tlaked about on this
list. Now, I cannot seem to switch back to Espeak. It runs silent when I
do so. Other issues have arrisen as well. I do not hear the sound when
I'm entering into focus mode or when I leave focus mode and go into
browse mode. Any help with this one would be appreciated. I"m running
the latest Next snapshot.









Re: NVDA with which anti-virus

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To be fair though, no matter which anti virus you use, there is always going to be some risk of infection as virus writers strive to get around the detection systems used.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 03, 2016 12:47 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with which anti-virus


Windows Defender is almost identical to MSEE. It is a renamed and hardly altered program for Windows 10. It has the same contraversey as does MSEE about its effectiveness.

Gene


From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 6:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA with which anti-virus


Hi, Joe,

I used to use MSE when I was running windows 7. Now that I have windows 10,
I use windows defender.

Hope this helps.

Rosemarie



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Joe
Paton
Sent: Saturday, July 02, 2016 2:08 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA with which anti-virus

Hello,

Which anti-virus is most accessible with nvda, running windows 7 64-bit?

I've have serious access issues with eset's nod32, so much so, that where
there an infultration, nvda would be unable to assist.

So what do folks use please?

Thanks.

p.s. if you've seen a similar post before, My mistake because I didn't see
my post so suspect these are not getting through.

Joe