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Re: say all isn't working

Phillip Gross
 

Thank you. I tried changing it as soon as I responded to your previous message and that fixed it.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 8:32 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] say all isn't working

That is the problem...

It is a known bug of that synth...

Rui Fontes


Às 02:23 de 11/04/2019, Phillip Gross escreveu:
Code Factory Vocalizer with Samantha as the voice.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui
Fontes
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 8:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] say all isn't working

What synth?

Rui Fontes


Às 02:13 de 11/04/2019, Phillip Gross escreveu:
Capslock + A is what I normally use but I have tried both. Down arrow just reads the next line and a does what I explained before.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui
Fontes
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 8:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] say all isn't working

Are you using CapsLock+A or CapsLock+downArrow?

Rui Fontes


Às 01:43 de 11/04/2019, Phillip Gross escreveu:
First off first post to the group so hello.

I am on a Surface Book laptop and my Say all isn't working.  For
example if I am in Firefox and hit say all it will read me a
paragraph or so or a page or 2 if I am in Kindle then it stops. 
When I hit the say all command again it starts again from where it
started previously and reads the same amount.

I have the latest version of NVDA, my keyboard is set to laptop, and
the system has been restarted multiple times.  I have even tried
each of the different review modes with 0 success.  What am I missing?

Thank you in advance for your help.











Re: say all isn't working

Rui Fontes
 

That is the problem...

It is a known bug of that synth...

Rui Fontes


Às 02:23 de 11/04/2019, Phillip Gross escreveu:

Code Factory Vocalizer with Samantha as the voice.
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 8:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] say all isn't working
What synth?
Rui Fontes
Às 02:13 de 11/04/2019, Phillip Gross escreveu:
Capslock + A is what I normally use but I have tried both. Down arrow just reads the next line and a does what I explained before.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui
Fontes
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 8:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] say all isn't working

Are you using CapsLock+A or CapsLock+downArrow?

Rui Fontes


Às 01:43 de 11/04/2019, Phillip Gross escreveu:
First off first post to the group so hello.

I am on a Surface Book laptop and my Say all isn't working.  For
example if I am in Firefox and hit say all it will read me a
paragraph or so or a page or 2 if I am in Kindle then it stops.  When
I hit the say all command again it starts again from where it started
previously and reads the same amount.

I have the latest version of NVDA, my keyboard is set to laptop, and
the system has been restarted multiple times.  I have even tried each
of the different review modes with 0 success.  What am I missing?

Thank you in advance for your help.







Re: Reaper Tutorial

JM Casey
 

Yes, this is neat too, and I kind of wish I'd known about it when the course was actually taking place.
So far I've only listened to the Audio Essentials stuff but the instructors are surprisingly good. I say "surprisingly" because I'm not normally a fan of audio tutorials and such. The only problem is that the classes are archived as mp3s and were originally broadcast over Team Talk. The quality isn't too bad but not really good enough (imo) to properly demonstrate some of the things they are going for. But there is a lot of material there, and the three instructors are smart, personable and even fun to listen to.
It seems they also have an Advanced Reaper one, a composition course (presumably using Reaper too) and also one for Goldwave.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Armando Maldonado
Sent: April 10, 2019 9:12 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] reaper totorial

Hello, try this link as CAVI has made this public, enjoy.
http://cavi.xyz/audioplatinum
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adel Spence" <adelspence12@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] reaper totorial


so do I...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nasir Mehmood" <smart.nasir46@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 7:55 PM
Subject: [nvda] reaper totorial


hy friends i am nasir mehmood need me reaper totorial in text and
audio both please help me because i want to learn





Re: say all isn't working

Phillip Gross
 

Code Factory Vocalizer with Samantha as the voice.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 8:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] say all isn't working

What synth?

Rui Fontes


Às 02:13 de 11/04/2019, Phillip Gross escreveu:
Capslock + A is what I normally use but I have tried both. Down arrow just reads the next line and a does what I explained before.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui
Fontes
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 8:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] say all isn't working

Are you using CapsLock+A or CapsLock+downArrow?

Rui Fontes


Às 01:43 de 11/04/2019, Phillip Gross escreveu:
First off first post to the group so hello.

I am on a Surface Book laptop and my Say all isn't working.  For
example if I am in Firefox and hit say all it will read me a
paragraph or so or a page or 2 if I am in Kindle then it stops.  When
I hit the say all command again it starts again from where it started
previously and reads the same amount.

I have the latest version of NVDA, my keyboard is set to laptop, and
the system has been restarted multiple times.  I have even tried each
of the different review modes with 0 success.  What am I missing?

Thank you in advance for your help.







Re: Reaper Tutorial

JM Casey
 

That was posted here a while ago. I took a look at the thread but am not really sure how it's going to go. It seems a little disorganised, but I guess it is still early days. But the thread pointed me to a lot of other useful resources, so yes, definitely worth a look.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Blaster
Sent: April 10, 2019 9:18 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] reaper totorial

There's a reaper beginners live course taking place right now over at:

https://forum.audiogames.net/topic/28100/accessible-sound-design-first-lesson-up-interaction-ending-134/page/1/

The instructor is sighted and has taken it upon himself to learn NVDA on-the-fly to teach sound designing using reaper, enjoy!

HTH,
Blaster



On 4/10/19, Armando Maldonado <armando.maldonado0767@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello, try this link as CAVI has made this public, enjoy.
http://cavi.xyz/audioplatinum
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adel Spence" <adelspence12@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] reaper totorial


so do I...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nasir Mehmood" <smart.nasir46@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 7:55 PM
Subject: [nvda] reaper totorial


hy friends i am nasir mehmood need me reaper totorial in text and
audio both please help me because i want to learn








Re: Making pop-up notifications go away

 

On Wed, Apr 10, 2019 at 09:00 PM, Sile wrote:
I’m sorry I’m not an expert on knowing which things you have to do through windows keyboard commands and which things you have to do through NVDA hot keys.
No apology is necessary.  We're in a period of transition and certain topics do present themselves as examples, like this one did.  It's going to be a learning experience for all, and folks new to the group more so than those who've been here a while.

I'm glad your issue is resolved.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.

           ~ Edward Abbey

 

 


Re: say all isn't working

Rui Fontes
 

What synth?

Rui Fontes


Às 02:13 de 11/04/2019, Phillip Gross escreveu:

Capslock + A is what I normally use but I have tried both. Down arrow just reads the next line and a does what I explained before.
-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 8:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] say all isn't working
Are you using CapsLock+A or CapsLock+downArrow?
Rui Fontes
Às 01:43 de 11/04/2019, Phillip Gross escreveu:
First off first post to the group so hello.

I am on a Surface Book laptop and my Say all isn't working.  For
example if I am in Firefox and hit say all it will read me a paragraph
or so or a page or 2 if I am in Kindle then it stops.  When I hit the
say all command again it starts again from where it started previously
and reads the same amount.

I have the latest version of NVDA, my keyboard is set to laptop, and
the system has been restarted multiple times.  I have even tried each
of the different review modes with 0 success.  What am I missing?

Thank you in advance for your help.


Re: Reaper Tutorial

Blaster
 

There's a reaper beginners live course taking place right now over at:

https://forum.audiogames.net/topic/28100/accessible-sound-design-first-lesson-up-interaction-ending-134/page/1/

The instructor is sighted and has taken it upon himself to learn NVDA
on-the-fly to teach sound designing using reaper, enjoy!

HTH,
Blaster

On 4/10/19, Armando Maldonado <armando.maldonado0767@gmail.com> wrote:
Hello, try this link as CAVI has made this public, enjoy.
http://cavi.xyz/audioplatinum
----- Original Message -----
From: "Adel Spence" <adelspence12@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] reaper totorial


so do I...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nasir Mehmood" <smart.nasir46@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 7:55 PM
Subject: [nvda] reaper totorial


hy friends i am nasir mehmood need me reaper totorial in text and
audio both please help me because i want to learn








Re: say all isn't working

Phillip Gross
 

Capslock + A is what I normally use but I have tried both. Down arrow just reads the next line and a does what I explained before.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Rui Fontes
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 8:06 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] say all isn't working

Are you using CapsLock+A or CapsLock+downArrow?

Rui Fontes


Às 01:43 de 11/04/2019, Phillip Gross escreveu:
First off first post to the group so hello.

I am on a Surface Book laptop and my Say all isn't working.  For
example if I am in Firefox and hit say all it will read me a paragraph
or so or a page or 2 if I am in Kindle then it stops.  When I hit the
say all command again it starts again from where it started previously
and reads the same amount.

I have the latest version of NVDA, my keyboard is set to laptop, and
the system has been restarted multiple times.  I have even tried each
of the different review modes with 0 success.  What am I missing?

Thank you in advance for your help.


Re: Reaper Tutorial

Armando Maldonado
 

Hello, try this link as CAVI has made this public, enjoy.
http://cavi.xyz/audioplatinum

----- Original Message -----
From: "Adel Spence" <adelspence12@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 5:17 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] reaper totorial


so do I...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nasir Mehmood" <smart.nasir46@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 7:55 PM
Subject: [nvda] reaper totorial


hy friends i am nasir mehmood need me reaper totorial in text and
audio both please help me because i want to learn




Re: say all isn't working

Rui Fontes
 

Are you using CapsLock+A or CapsLock+downArrow?

Rui Fontes


Às 01:43 de 11/04/2019, Phillip Gross escreveu:

First off first post to the group so hello.
I am on a Surface Book laptop and my Say all isn’t working.  For example if I am in Firefox and hit say all it will read me a paragraph or so or a page or 2 if I am in Kindle then it stops.  When I hit the say all command again it starts again from where it started previously and reads the same amount.
I have the latest version of NVDA, my keyboard is set to laptop, and the system has been restarted multiple times.  I have even tried each of the different review modes with 0 success.  What am I missing?
Thank you in advance for your help.


Re: Reaper Tutorial

JM Casey
 

Hi.

I just got reaper last week and haven't really gotten anywhere with it yet, but I have found a good number of resources.

Check out the reaper accessibility wiki, it should be a great starting point:
https://reaperaccessibility.com/index.php/Main_Page


They have created an html version of the user guide there. You can also download a number of pdf files from the main Reaper site itself. This includes the user guide, but also a few other useful things. Definitely start with the wiki and follow the instructions on getting started. You will want to download some add-ons that plug into Reaper.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Adel Spence
Sent: April 10, 2019 8:17 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] reaper totorial

so do I...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Nasir Mehmood" <smart.nasir46@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 7:55 PM
Subject: [nvda] reaper totorial


hy friends i am nasir mehmood need me reaper totorial in text and
audio both please help me because i want to learn



Re: Selecting sentences with NVDA

Tony Malykh
 

Hi, there is actually a way.

Navigate to the sentence you want to select with Alt+Down/Up. The cursor at this moment is actually at the beginning of the sentence. So press NVDA+F9 to mark the start of selection. Then press Alt+Down to go to the next sentence. Press NVDA+F10 twice quickly. Voila. The sentence will end up in your clipboard. It will actually include the first letter of the following sentence, but I would call it a quirk of NVDA+F9 and NVDA+F10 commands. If it bothers you, just press the left button once right before the last step.

HTH

--Tony


On 4/8/2019 10:00 PM, Sociohack AC wrote:
Is there a way to select sentences while navigating sentence by sentence with the sentence nav add-on?
While I'm reading and reviewing complex documents I need to navigate sentence by sentence to properly understand it. Sometimes for revisions I'm also required to select particular sentences. Right now, I use the typical command of shift+ctrl+right arrow or shift+down arrow to do so. Is there a more effficient way out there?

All inputs are welcome
--
Regards,
Sociohack


Re: Making pop-up notifications go away

Sile
 

Thank you for the attached, this is very helpful. I posted this to this list, because I thought it was an NVDA key that I could use to make the notification go away. I’m sorry I’m not an expert on knowing which things you have to do through windows keyboard commands and which things you have to do through NVDA hot keys. Period.


On Apr 10, 2019, at 12:01 PM, Brian Vogel <britechguy@...> wrote:

Suspending notifications has been built into Windows 10, if not from day one, for a long time now.

If the goal is to suspend them during a PowerPoint presentation (or anything you're duplicating to another screen [often a projector]) the first method mentioned is best.  If you just want to shut up notifications for some set duration the Quiet Time option is preferable.

https://www.windowscentral.com/how-disable-notifications-while-presenting-windows-10

(Be aware that if you are using a ad blocker the page above will have a pop-up appear over it, which you can (and will have to dismiss) using the controls on it to either continue with your adblocker active or whitelist the windowscentral site).

This is also a topic that would have been best suited to the Chat Subgroup, since it's definitely not about NVDA.  But the proverbial hammer is not yet being brought down.  I'm hoping that folks will start asking themselves the question, , “Is what I’m about to ask related to using NVDA directly to accomplish something, or to control NVDA itself?,” independently and choose posting venue according to whether the answer to same is, Yes (main group), or "No" (chat subgroup).
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.

           ~ Edward Abbey

 

 


say all isn't working

Phillip Gross
 

First off first post to the group so hello.  

 

I am on a Surface Book laptop and my Say all isn’t working.  For example if I am in Firefox and hit say all it will read me a paragraph or so or a page or 2 if I am in Kindle then it stops.  When I hit the say all command again it starts again from where it started previously and reads the same amount.

 

I have the latest version of NVDA, my keyboard is set to laptop, and the system has been restarted multiple times.  I have even tried each of the different review modes with 0 success.  What am I missing?

 

Thank you in advance for your help.


Re: Reaper Tutorial

Adel Spence
 

so do I...

----- Original Message -----
From: "Nasir Mehmood" <smart.nasir46@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 7:55 PM
Subject: [nvda] reaper totorial


hy friends i am nasir mehmood need me reaper totorial in text and
audio both please help me because i want to learn


Reaper Tutorial

Nasir Mehmood <smart.nasir46@...>
 

hy friends i am nasir mehmood need me reaper totorial in text and
audio both please help me because i want to learn


Re: Code Factory Blues

Gene
 

On thinking about your message further, it can be interpreted two ways.  I had thought you were saying you hadn't used your computer for a time, such as a month and then the voice was changed.  Code Factory eloquence may not automatically let you revert.  It may tell you the program is unregistered and you have to change the voice without speech.  You could run another screen-reader and do so using that screen-reader to read what you are doing in NVDA.  But evidently your message means that when you leave the computer running for awhile, such as half an hour or an hour, then return to it, the voice has changed.  I don't know why that is.  Others may have suggestions.  Does that happen after you have saved Eloquence as the voice you want to use or have you changed to it and then not saved it as a permanent setting with control NVDA key c?
 
Maybe your computer does something to save power and then when you come back, it doesn't run Eloquence again when you cause the computer to resume normal operation..
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 6:25 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Code Factory Blues

If the product is not registered, you will, I believe, automatically revert to another synthesizer.  I don't know if it is the default or the one you used last before Eloquence.  But since I don't use Code Factory Eloquence, I'm not sure I'm right and others may comment.  But I don't recall ever hearing of a registered Code Factory Eloquence changing anything while it is still registered.  If you find out from Code Factory how often you need to run the voice for it to stay registered, you can run your computer enough to keep Eloquence registered. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Code Factory Blues

This is the third time after I haven't used NVDA for a while that the
voice changed since the last time I used NVDA and no one else uses my
computer.

I should have said that when I leave the computer using the JAWS read
current line command helps remind me whether I left it with JAWS or NVDA
running.  Maybe on some machines the command reads the same part of the
window, but it is different on my machine and helps me differentiate.

NVDA enabled me to place an order this morning and it is not the first
time.  maybe this time trying to learn it will do the trick.  I think I
saw a recent post under a different thread from another list member
saying they had some NVDA tutorials on their web site.  I'm off to try
to find the post  to supplement the paid NVDA training guide I bought
and the free materials I have.

Margaret

On 4/9/2019 7:01 PM, Gene wrote:
> The check for proper licensing doesn't change the voice.  I haven't
> heard that complaint before.
> I may be able to discuss other voices in a later message. I don't know
> what you mean about using the JAWS read current line command.  Aren't
> you using NVDA when you are checking the synthesizer?
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Margaret Thomas <mailto:iluvtoread@...>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 09, 2019 4:34 PM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Code Factory Blues
>
> Gene and All:
>
> I want to change the voice since the Code Factory Eloquence I remember
> is close to the JAWS Eloquence which is both good and bad.  The good
> part is that it is familiar and the bad is that I'm still at the point
> with NVDA where I have to switch back to JAWS to get something done
> quickly or the differences and having to concentrate instead of muscle
> memory get to me and I need to change.  If I leave the computer, I have
> to do the JAWS read current line to tell which synth I was using.
>
> Also, I understand that by clicking on I agree to the Code Factory
> license agreement, I gave them the right to do their monthly probe or
> however often they issue it.  I wish they could do it without changing
> my chosen voice.  Yes, registering is free, but my memory is that it is
> not easy and involves having to dig up codes to plunk down in the
> appropriate places.
>
> If I load NVDA and do NVDA key plus Control-S, I land on Sapi 5 with
> a male voice.  My memory is that I thought the Microsoft voice I had was
> female and Sapi 4 which was more understandable for me than eSpeak.
> Whatever voice I'm on now is also better than eSpeak.
>
> I thought I remembered that there was somewhere in the NVDA menu where
> one can listen to the installed voices, but I haven't found it yet.
>
> I got NVDA updated to the current version and I'm running 64 bit
> Windows 7 Home.
>
> I apologize to the list since this is not a good time to try to learn
> something new, but every time I've run into a bad patch and have had to
> stop and think I'll resume at a better time, there hasn't been a better
> one and I've reached the conclusion there isn't going to be.
>
> Thanks to everyone for their patience.
>
> Margaret
> On 4/5/2019 2:00 PM, Gene wrote:
>  > First, why do you want to find another voice if all you need to do is
>  > reregister the Code Factory Voice, especially if you want Eloquence?  As
>  > far as I know, registration is free.  I believe, though you can check,
>  > that if you run NVDA once a month with the voice, you will remain
>  > registered.  So just running it for a moment with the Eloquence voice
>  > should be all you need to do.
>  > As far as changing to the Microsoft voice on your computer is concerned,
>  > are you using the SAPI version of Eloquence or the Add-on?  It may
>  > affect how you run the Microsoft voice.  I'm not sure I can tell you
>  > just how to switch but answering my question may make it easier for you
>  > to find out.
>  > Gene
>  > ----- Original Message -----
>  > *From:* Margaret Thomas <mailto:iluvtoread@...>
>  > *Sent:* Friday, April 05, 2019 11:26 AM
>  > *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>  > *Subject:* [nvda] Code Factory Blues
>  >
>  > Hi, All:
>  >
>  > I'm once again trying to learn NVDA after many years as a JAWS user
>  > running 64 bit Windows 7 Home.
>  >
>  > One of my problems is that my attempts keep being interrupted by one
>  > thing or another and I have to start virtually all over from scratch.  I
>  > purchased a couple of Code Factory voices  with one being an Eloquence
>  > that sounds reasonably like the Eloquence with JAWS that I'm used to.
>  > Apparently, I upset Code Factory by not loading NVDA frequently enough
>  > for them since the voice switched to something else from Eloquence that
>  > it had been on the last time I used NVDA and I apparently have to
>  > re-register the Code Factory voice again.  This will be the third time
>  > and I'll be in search of another synthesizer since I have a problem
>  > understanding eSpeak or whatever the current one is.  Could someone
>  > please remind me how to find out what the current one is?  During one of
>  > my previous attempts, I found that the SAPI voice for Win 7 was easier
>  > to understand than eSpeak, but can't remember how to switch.  Could some
>  > kind person please provide instructions?
>  >
>  > I'll check out voices again when I can get NVDA more understandable, but
>  > does anyone know if there has been anything new other than from Code
>  > Factory in the last several months that works with Win 7?
>  >
>  > I seem to be running NVDA 2018.1.1.
>  >
>  > Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>  >
>  > Margaret
>  >
>  >
>  >
>
>
>



Re: Code Factory Blues

Gene
 

If the product is not registered, you will, I believe, automatically revert to another synthesizer.  I don't know if it is the default or the one you used last before Eloquence.  But since I don't use Code Factory Eloquence, I'm not sure I'm right and others may comment.  But I don't recall ever hearing of a registered Code Factory Eloquence changing anything while it is still registered.  If you find out from Code Factory how often you need to run the voice for it to stay registered, you can run your computer enough to keep Eloquence registered. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 5:15 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Code Factory Blues

This is the third time after I haven't used NVDA for a while that the
voice changed since the last time I used NVDA and no one else uses my
computer.

I should have said that when I leave the computer using the JAWS read
current line command helps remind me whether I left it with JAWS or NVDA
running.  Maybe on some machines the command reads the same part of the
window, but it is different on my machine and helps me differentiate.

NVDA enabled me to place an order this morning and it is not the first
time.  maybe this time trying to learn it will do the trick.  I think I
saw a recent post under a different thread from another list member
saying they had some NVDA tutorials on their web site.  I'm off to try
to find the post  to supplement the paid NVDA training guide I bought
and the free materials I have.

Margaret

On 4/9/2019 7:01 PM, Gene wrote:
> The check for proper licensing doesn't change the voice.  I haven't
> heard that complaint before.
> I may be able to discuss other voices in a later message. I don't know
> what you mean about using the JAWS read current line command.  Aren't
> you using NVDA when you are checking the synthesizer?
> Gene
> ----- Original Message -----
> *From:* Margaret Thomas <mailto:iluvtoread@...>
> *Sent:* Tuesday, April 09, 2019 4:34 PM
> *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> *Subject:* Re: [nvda] Code Factory Blues
>
> Gene and All:
>
> I want to change the voice since the Code Factory Eloquence I remember
> is close to the JAWS Eloquence which is both good and bad.  The good
> part is that it is familiar and the bad is that I'm still at the point
> with NVDA where I have to switch back to JAWS to get something done
> quickly or the differences and having to concentrate instead of muscle
> memory get to me and I need to change.  If I leave the computer, I have
> to do the JAWS read current line to tell which synth I was using.
>
> Also, I understand that by clicking on I agree to the Code Factory
> license agreement, I gave them the right to do their monthly probe or
> however often they issue it.  I wish they could do it without changing
> my chosen voice.  Yes, registering is free, but my memory is that it is
> not easy and involves having to dig up codes to plunk down in the
> appropriate places.
>
> If I load NVDA and do NVDA key plus Control-S, I land on Sapi 5 with
> a male voice.  My memory is that I thought the Microsoft voice I had was
> female and Sapi 4 which was more understandable for me than eSpeak.
> Whatever voice I'm on now is also better than eSpeak.
>
> I thought I remembered that there was somewhere in the NVDA menu where
> one can listen to the installed voices, but I haven't found it yet.
>
> I got NVDA updated to the current version and I'm running 64 bit
> Windows 7 Home.
>
> I apologize to the list since this is not a good time to try to learn
> something new, but every time I've run into a bad patch and have had to
> stop and think I'll resume at a better time, there hasn't been a better
> one and I've reached the conclusion there isn't going to be.
>
> Thanks to everyone for their patience.
>
> Margaret
> On 4/5/2019 2:00 PM, Gene wrote:
>  > First, why do you want to find another voice if all you need to do is
>  > reregister the Code Factory Voice, especially if you want Eloquence?  As
>  > far as I know, registration is free.  I believe, though you can check,
>  > that if you run NVDA once a month with the voice, you will remain
>  > registered.  So just running it for a moment with the Eloquence voice
>  > should be all you need to do.
>  > As far as changing to the Microsoft voice on your computer is concerned,
>  > are you using the SAPI version of Eloquence or the Add-on?  It may
>  > affect how you run the Microsoft voice.  I'm not sure I can tell you
>  > just how to switch but answering my question may make it easier for you
>  > to find out.
>  > Gene
>  > ----- Original Message -----
>  > *From:* Margaret Thomas <mailto:iluvtoread@...>
>  > *Sent:* Friday, April 05, 2019 11:26 AM
>  > *To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
>  > *Subject:* [nvda] Code Factory Blues
>  >
>  > Hi, All:
>  >
>  > I'm once again trying to learn NVDA after many years as a JAWS user
>  > running 64 bit Windows 7 Home.
>  >
>  > One of my problems is that my attempts keep being interrupted by one
>  > thing or another and I have to start virtually all over from scratch.  I
>  > purchased a couple of Code Factory voices  with one being an Eloquence
>  > that sounds reasonably like the Eloquence with JAWS that I'm used to.
>  > Apparently, I upset Code Factory by not loading NVDA frequently enough
>  > for them since the voice switched to something else from Eloquence that
>  > it had been on the last time I used NVDA and I apparently have to
>  > re-register the Code Factory voice again.  This will be the third time
>  > and I'll be in search of another synthesizer since I have a problem
>  > understanding eSpeak or whatever the current one is.  Could someone
>  > please remind me how to find out what the current one is?  During one of
>  > my previous attempts, I found that the SAPI voice for Win 7 was easier
>  > to understand than eSpeak, but can't remember how to switch.  Could some
>  > kind person please provide instructions?
>  >
>  > I'll check out voices again when I can get NVDA more understandable, but
>  > does anyone know if there has been anything new other than from Code
>  > Factory in the last several months that works with Win 7?
>  >
>  > I seem to be running NVDA 2018.1.1.
>  >
>  > Any help would be greatly appreciated.
>  >
>  > Margaret
>  >
>  >
>  >
>
>
>



Re: Silent Install

 

nvda --install-silent
By the way it's listed in the userguide :)

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Em 10/04/2019 18:10, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io disse:

Ok,   missed it can you give the exact command might be worth trying thanks.

On 10/04/2019 08:37, Luke Thomson via Groups.I wrote:
It means that the installer should run silently in the background - so no windows popping up or any user interaction with the installer. It's very useful when deploying applications to managed machines as it prevents the user from interacting with the installation and potentially causing issues.