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Observation of Reply Behaviour of Some List Members

Andre Fisher
 

Hi.

I've noticed a lot recently, that when a topic is replied to, some list members do not read the responses to the initial post. This is evident when someone asks a question, then gets a response, likely answering the question or resolving an issue. Subsequent responses to the thread seek to provide the same response, sometimes more than once, with the same solution/answer, or questions relating to the issue, even after the opening poster has stated in the thread that all is resolved. Is there a good explanation for this? Now, I am not a moderator, so can't enforce anything, but I find it very annoying to have to skip through multiple messages of the same origin. Why don't persons read the thread in its entirety before posting?


Dymo label writer

Jim Pipczak
 

Hi all,

 

Does anyone use a Dymo label printer? The only way I can find to enter text in a label is to use the mouse to click in the label. I guess I’m lucky enough to have enough sight to be able to use a mouse, However, I want an answer for those who do not have enough sight to use the mouse.

 

Although I always sincerely appreciate everyone’s suggestions, I really want to hear from anyone who actually uses the program and has solved the problem.

 

Have a great weekend.

 

Many thanks,

Jim

 

 


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Re: Remove beeps from list of emails

 

Hi,

I’ll clarify some things about this add-on on our add-ons page (and add a link to NVDA issue 2559).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 9:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remove beeps from list of emails

 

you can check but what I saw didn't go into all that detail.  You can see if I missed something, though I don't think I did.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 11:48 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Remove beeps from list of emails

 

Hi,

At a nutshell, this add-on will beep the screen coordinate of the object one is moving to. This is applicable to both navigator object and system focus. This is the reason why the beep is heard.

I’d be curious to know if this happened with other apps – any app that presents controls that can be arrowed through (such as files and folders list in File Explorer) will exhibit this behavior.

The NVDA Core version of this add-on (pending approval from NV Access people as it was reviewed not long ago) will let users configure this setting:

  • No beep
  • Only beep for system focus changes
  • Beep for object navigation commands
  • Both system focus and object navigation

 

The intended purpose of Object Location Tones add-on (and the NVDA Core version of that) is to let users know where things are on screen – to serve as a screen orientation aid for those needing it. An equivalent functionality for touchscreens is part of Enhanced Touch Gestures (some portions of that add-on will be packaged as a pull request for NVDA later). If I didn’t spell that out clearly on add-ons page, I sincerely apologize (a huge failure on my part, which I need to address before I go down to Santa Ana, California for a national speech tournament next week).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 9:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remove beeps from list of emails

 

So, as I understand the description, this is only supposed to happen when using Object navigation and moving the navigator with the navigator movement keys.  I wonder what it is in Outlook that causes the beeps to sound when the navigator is moved as it follows the application as used from the main keyboard?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 7:43 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Remove beeps from list of emails

 

Hi,

That’s my conclusion as well.

That add-on is meant to be a proof of concept implementation of the following NVDA issue:

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/2559

 

Luckily, the NVDA Core implementation of this add-on will be sensitive to configuration profiles – it is just awaiting code review at the moment.
Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 2:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remove beeps from list of emails

 

I just checked.  The name of the add-on is object location tones. 
The description says, "After installing this add-on and restarting NVDA (or when you enable this add-on), as you navigate to different controls, you'll hear tones to indicate where the object is located on screen."  It is evidently seeing items in Outlook like different messages in the list as controls.  I assume from the fact that you don't complain about this in other programs such as Windows Explorer, that this generally doesn't happen.

 

That also explains why when you turned off the object navigator moving as you moved in the application, that no beeps were heard.  the object navigator didn't move and the add-on was therefore unaware that you were moving in the application. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 4:36 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Remove beeps from list of emails

 

Joseph,

 

I went into the ad on manager and disabled your beep add-on and the problem has gone away! Now when I toggle NVDA+7 to either on or off there is no more beeping!

 

This is a brutal way to resolve the problem but it is a relief. However, I would like to understand what was happening and why I could not simply toggle the beeps on or off without losing the ability to Trak the cursor.

 

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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Re: list

Andre Fisher
 

Hi.

Persons can correct me here, but at no time did I get the impression that beginners should not post to this list, and/or they should use the list archive to gather information. Instead, the main policy being put forward is that only subjects on topic to using NVDA be posted to the list. It is also encouraged, but not enforced, that persons use tools such as the user guide, internet searches and the list archive search facility to retrieve information, due to repetition of subject matters, which can occur on a daily basis at its worst.

I strongly recommend you re-read those posts as it relates to the policies of the list. As a novice user to NVDA, all your posts about using NVDA are welcomed here, I strongly believe.


Re: Announcing cut, copy, or paste

Judy Jones
 

Correct.  I was just trying to go through the sequence.

 

Judy

“Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings.”

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 9:23 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing cut, copy, or paste

 

I now understand your message.  The add-on will cause the action to be announced but you are not discussing a JAWS command when you speak of alt followed by the letters.  That is a program command.  And control x is a Windows command.  You can cut text just by using control x.  The Windows command for copying text to the clipboard is control c.  It is much more convenient to use those commands.  The add-on will cause the announcement to be made when you use control x and control c. and JAWS will speak the actions as well.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Judy Jones

Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 9:34 PM

Subject: [nvda] Announcing cut, copy, or paste

 

Hello To All,

 

Can NVDA be set to announc “cut text to clipboard,” as Jaws does when you use control-X?

 

I ran into this when wanting to paste a link into an e-mail.  In Jaws you hit Alt-D, A, and C to get this done.  I did manage to copy to clipboard, but didn’t hear it spoken, so pulled up notepad to make sure I actually had copied the address.

 

It would seem easier if you could hear that your commands are carried out.

 

Thanks as always.

 

Judy

“Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings.”

 

 


Re: Announcing cut, copy, or paste

Judy Jones
 

Nope, I was just asking about the verbal feedback when you cut text, copy text, or paste it.  Sometimes, with Jaws, if you don’t get that verbal feedback, it can mean that the text, for whatever reason, did not copy to clipboard.

 

Judy

“Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings.”

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 9:16 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing cut, copy, or paste

 

I'm not sure what you are asking.  Are you asking about cutting text, then adding more text when you cut more?  I don't know what the command does that you are describing and you already know about control x for cutting text, which is a Windows command.  The Clipspeak add-on causes NVDA to announce that text is copied, cut, or pasted.  In many circumstances, it doesn't announce those things without the add-on but just what does the JAWS command do?

 

Gene 

----- Original Message -----

From: Judy Jones

Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 9:34 PM

Subject: [nvda] Announcing cut, copy, or paste

 

Hello To All,

 

Can NVDA be set to announc “cut text to clipboard,” as Jaws does when you use control-X?

 

I ran into this when wanting to paste a link into an e-mail.  In Jaws you hit Alt-D, A, and C to get this done.  I did manage to copy to clipboard, but didn’t hear it spoken, so pulled up notepad to make sure I actually had copied the address.

 

It would seem easier if you could hear that your commands are carried out.

 

Thanks as always.

 

Judy

“Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings.”

 

 


Re: Announcing cut, copy, or paste

Gene
 

If what I said isn't clear, when you are in browse mode, you will hear the announcements without the add-on.  The add-on, evidently, becomes inactive when you are in browse mode to allow for the announcement NVDA makes itself.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 11:53 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing cut, copy, or paste

not when you are in browse mode, which is why I didn't make it a blanket statement.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: cisco
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 11:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing cut, copy, or paste

Actually you have to have the ad on for things like that to be announced


On Apr 12, 2019, at 6:16 AM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

I'm not sure what you are asking.  Are you asking about cutting text, then adding more text when you cut more?  I don't know what the command does that you are describing and you already know about control x for cutting text, which is a Windows command.  The Clipspeak add-on causes NVDA to announce that text is copied, cut, or pasted.  In many circumstances, it doesn't announce those things without the add-on but just what does the JAWS command do?
 
Gene 
----- Original Message -----
From: Judy Jones
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 9:34 PM
Subject: [nvda] Announcing cut, copy, or paste

Hello To All,

 

Can NVDA be set to announc “cut text to clipboard,” as Jaws does when you use control-X?

 

I ran into this when wanting to paste a link into an e-mail.  In Jaws you hit Alt-D, A, and C to get this done.  I did manage to copy to clipboard, but didn’t hear it spoken, so pulled up notepad to make sure I actually had copied the address.

 

It would seem easier if you could hear that your commands are carried out.

 

Thanks as always.

 

Judy

“Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings.”

 


Re: Remove beeps from list of emails

Gene
 

you can check but what I saw didn't go into all that detail.  You can see if I missed something, though I don't think I did.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 11:48 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remove beeps from list of emails

Hi,

At a nutshell, this add-on will beep the screen coordinate of the object one is moving to. This is applicable to both navigator object and system focus. This is the reason why the beep is heard.

I’d be curious to know if this happened with other apps – any app that presents controls that can be arrowed through (such as files and folders list in File Explorer) will exhibit this behavior.

The NVDA Core version of this add-on (pending approval from NV Access people as it was reviewed not long ago) will let users configure this setting:

  • No beep
  • Only beep for system focus changes
  • Beep for object navigation commands
  • Both system focus and object navigation

 

The intended purpose of Object Location Tones add-on (and the NVDA Core version of that) is to let users know where things are on screen – to serve as a screen orientation aid for those needing it. An equivalent functionality for touchscreens is part of Enhanced Touch Gestures (some portions of that add-on will be packaged as a pull request for NVDA later). If I didn’t spell that out clearly on add-ons page, I sincerely apologize (a huge failure on my part, which I need to address before I go down to Santa Ana, California for a national speech tournament next week).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 9:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remove beeps from list of emails

 

So, as I understand the description, this is only supposed to happen when using Object navigation and moving the navigator with the navigator movement keys.  I wonder what it is in Outlook that causes the beeps to sound when the navigator is moved as it follows the application as used from the main keyboard?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 7:43 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Remove beeps from list of emails

 

Hi,

That’s my conclusion as well.

That add-on is meant to be a proof of concept implementation of the following NVDA issue:

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/2559

 

Luckily, the NVDA Core implementation of this add-on will be sensitive to configuration profiles – it is just awaiting code review at the moment.
Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 2:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remove beeps from list of emails

 

I just checked.  The name of the add-on is object location tones. 
The description says, "After installing this add-on and restarting NVDA (or when you enable this add-on), as you navigate to different controls, you'll hear tones to indicate where the object is located on screen."  It is evidently seeing items in Outlook like different messages in the list as controls.  I assume from the fact that you don't complain about this in other programs such as Windows Explorer, that this generally doesn't happen.

 

That also explains why when you turned off the object navigator moving as you moved in the application, that no beeps were heard.  the object navigator didn't move and the add-on was therefore unaware that you were moving in the application. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 4:36 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Remove beeps from list of emails

 

Joseph,

 

I went into the ad on manager and disabled your beep add-on and the problem has gone away! Now when I toggle NVDA+7 to either on or off there is no more beeping!

 

This is a brutal way to resolve the problem but it is a relief. However, I would like to understand what was happening and why I could not simply toggle the beeps on or off without losing the ability to Trak the cursor.

 

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

 


list

slery <slerythema@...>
 

Apparently, in my vast backlog of emails I have missed something regarding the policy of this list.

 

As it appears one is to use the archives for beginner questions, where can I find a list that is only for beginner NVDA users?

 

I have no knowledge to contribute to this list and as my archive skills are always lacking (even when looking for replies to my own messages from a year ago), I will not bother this list with any more questions. In fact, I will probably leave at the beginning of next week and only stick around long enough for something to tell me where the beginner list is.

 

Cindy


Re: Announcing cut, copy, or paste

Judy Jones
 

Thank you, Gene,

 

Now that you mention it, I would rather try your way first, but I will surely have to explore those add-ons.

 

Thanks again.

 

Judy

“Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings.”

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 7:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing cut, copy, or paste

 

Hi Judy

 

you could try the following add on it should do what you want it to do.

it is called clip speak.

 

It will need to be installed.

 

I do not use it if i copy any thing i do not need to know or hear it say copy etc I just copy what i want then use the nvda key +letter C to read out what i have copied.

 

there are probably other add ons up there you might use as well.

The following link will put you in the right place to get it at https://addons.nvda-project.org/index.en.html

It can also be accessed thrugh the add on manager under a button called get add ons in that section.

 

 

hope it helps.

 

Gene nz

 

 

On 12/04/2019 2:34 PM, Judy Jones wrote:

Hello To All,

 

Can NVDA be set to announc “cut text to clipboard,” as Jaws does when you use control-X?

 

I ran into this when wanting to paste a link into an e-mail.  In Jaws you hit Alt-D, A, and C to get this done.  I did manage to copy to clipboard, but didn’t hear it spoken, so pulled up notepad to make sure I actually had copied the address.

 

It would seem easier if you could hear that your commands are carried out.

 

Thanks as always.

 

Judy

“Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings.”

 

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Re: transfering music onto iPad with NVDA and latest iTunes

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

If you still have the mp3’s available that you used to burn the cd’s on your computer, you can paste those same folders into iTunes.

 

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From: Armando Maldonado
Sent: Wednesday, April 10, 2019 7:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] transfering music onto iPad with NVDA and latest iTunes

 

Hello, I had just burned some CDS for mom which are not available on any music streaming services such as spotify, apple Music, etc. My question, is there an easy way to transfer what I converted from her cds onto her iPad using the latest iTunes 12.9.4? Any help is appreciated.
Armando

 


Re: Announcing cut, copy, or paste

Gene
 

not when you are in browse mode, which is why I didn't make it a blanket statement.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: cisco
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 11:34 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing cut, copy, or paste

Actually you have to have the ad on for things like that to be announced


On Apr 12, 2019, at 6:16 AM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

I'm not sure what you are asking.  Are you asking about cutting text, then adding more text when you cut more?  I don't know what the command does that you are describing and you already know about control x for cutting text, which is a Windows command.  The Clipspeak add-on causes NVDA to announce that text is copied, cut, or pasted.  In many circumstances, it doesn't announce those things without the add-on but just what does the JAWS command do?
 
Gene 
----- Original Message -----
From: Judy Jones
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 9:34 PM
Subject: [nvda] Announcing cut, copy, or paste

Hello To All,

 

Can NVDA be set to announc “cut text to clipboard,” as Jaws does when you use control-X?

 

I ran into this when wanting to paste a link into an e-mail.  In Jaws you hit Alt-D, A, and C to get this done.  I did manage to copy to clipboard, but didn’t hear it spoken, so pulled up notepad to make sure I actually had copied the address.

 

It would seem easier if you could hear that your commands are carried out.

 

Thanks as always.

 

Judy

“Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings.”

 


BARD express

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

If any of the developers are using this windows program can you see if there is a way to have all of the annotation read?

 

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Re: Remove beeps from list of emails

 

Hi,

At a nutshell, this add-on will beep the screen coordinate of the object one is moving to. This is applicable to both navigator object and system focus. This is the reason why the beep is heard.

I’d be curious to know if this happened with other apps – any app that presents controls that can be arrowed through (such as files and folders list in File Explorer) will exhibit this behavior.

The NVDA Core version of this add-on (pending approval from NV Access people as it was reviewed not long ago) will let users configure this setting:

  • No beep
  • Only beep for system focus changes
  • Beep for object navigation commands
  • Both system focus and object navigation

 

The intended purpose of Object Location Tones add-on (and the NVDA Core version of that) is to let users know where things are on screen – to serve as a screen orientation aid for those needing it. An equivalent functionality for touchscreens is part of Enhanced Touch Gestures (some portions of that add-on will be packaged as a pull request for NVDA later). If I didn’t spell that out clearly on add-ons page, I sincerely apologize (a huge failure on my part, which I need to address before I go down to Santa Ana, California for a national speech tournament next week).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 9:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remove beeps from list of emails

 

So, as I understand the description, this is only supposed to happen when using Object navigation and moving the navigator with the navigator movement keys.  I wonder what it is in Outlook that causes the beeps to sound when the navigator is moved as it follows the application as used from the main keyboard?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 7:43 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Remove beeps from list of emails

 

Hi,

That’s my conclusion as well.

That add-on is meant to be a proof of concept implementation of the following NVDA issue:

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/2559

 

Luckily, the NVDA Core implementation of this add-on will be sensitive to configuration profiles – it is just awaiting code review at the moment.
Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 2:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remove beeps from list of emails

 

I just checked.  The name of the add-on is object location tones. 
The description says, "After installing this add-on and restarting NVDA (or when you enable this add-on), as you navigate to different controls, you'll hear tones to indicate where the object is located on screen."  It is evidently seeing items in Outlook like different messages in the list as controls.  I assume from the fact that you don't complain about this in other programs such as Windows Explorer, that this generally doesn't happen.

 

That also explains why when you turned off the object navigator moving as you moved in the application, that no beeps were heard.  the object navigator didn't move and the add-on was therefore unaware that you were moving in the application. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 4:36 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Remove beeps from list of emails

 

Joseph,

 

I went into the ad on manager and disabled your beep add-on and the problem has gone away! Now when I toggle NVDA+7 to either on or off there is no more beeping!

 

This is a brutal way to resolve the problem but it is a relief. However, I would like to understand what was happening and why I could not simply toggle the beeps on or off without losing the ability to Trak the cursor.

 

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

 


Re: Remove beeps from list of emails

Gene
 

So, as I understand the description, this is only supposed to happen when using Object navigation and moving the navigator with the navigator movement keys.  I wonder what it is in Outlook that causes the beeps to sound when the navigator is moved as it follows the application as used from the main keyboard?
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 7:43 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remove beeps from list of emails

Hi,

That’s my conclusion as well.

That add-on is meant to be a proof of concept implementation of the following NVDA issue:

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/2559

 

Luckily, the NVDA Core implementation of this add-on will be sensitive to configuration profiles – it is just awaiting code review at the moment.
Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 2:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remove beeps from list of emails

 

I just checked.  The name of the add-on is object location tones. 
The description says, "After installing this add-on and restarting NVDA (or when you enable this add-on), as you navigate to different controls, you'll hear tones to indicate where the object is located on screen."  It is evidently seeing items in Outlook like different messages in the list as controls.  I assume from the fact that you don't complain about this in other programs such as Windows Explorer, that this generally doesn't happen.

 

That also explains why when you turned off the object navigator moving as you moved in the application, that no beeps were heard.  the object navigator didn't move and the add-on was therefore unaware that you were moving in the application. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 4:36 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Remove beeps from list of emails

 

Joseph,

 

I went into the ad on manager and disabled your beep add-on and the problem has gone away! Now when I toggle NVDA+7 to either on or off there is no more beeping!

 

This is a brutal way to resolve the problem but it is a relief. However, I would like to understand what was happening and why I could not simply toggle the beeps on or off without losing the ability to Trak the cursor.

 

 

 

All the best,

 

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Re: Announcing cut, copy, or paste

cisco <audiogamer2004@...>
 

Actually you have to have the ad on for things like that to be announced


On Apr 12, 2019, at 6:16 AM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

I'm not sure what you are asking.  Are you asking about cutting text, then adding more text when you cut more?  I don't know what the command does that you are describing and you already know about control x for cutting text, which is a Windows command.  The Clipspeak add-on causes NVDA to announce that text is copied, cut, or pasted.  In many circumstances, it doesn't announce those things without the add-on but just what does the JAWS command do?
 
Gene 
----- Original Message -----
From: Judy Jones
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 9:34 PM
Subject: [nvda] Announcing cut, copy, or paste

Hello To All,

 

Can NVDA be set to announc “cut text to clipboard,” as Jaws does when you use control-X?

 

I ran into this when wanting to paste a link into an e-mail.  In Jaws you hit Alt-D, A, and C to get this done.  I did manage to copy to clipboard, but didn’t hear it spoken, so pulled up notepad to make sure I actually had copied the address.

 

It would seem easier if you could hear that your commands are carried out.

 

Thanks as always.

 

Judy

“Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings.”

 


Re: Announcing cut, copy, or paste

cisco <audiogamer2004@...>
 

Hi there. She’s talking about the clipspeac ad on.


On Apr 12, 2019, at 6:16 AM, Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

I'm not sure what you are asking.  Are you asking about cutting text, then adding more text when you cut more?  I don't know what the command does that you are describing and you already know about control x for cutting text, which is a Windows command.  The Clipspeak add-on causes NVDA to announce that text is copied, cut, or pasted.  In many circumstances, it doesn't announce those things without the add-on but just what does the JAWS command do?
 
Gene 
----- Original Message -----
From: Judy Jones
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 9:34 PM
Subject: [nvda] Announcing cut, copy, or paste

Hello To All,

 

Can NVDA be set to announc “cut text to clipboard,” as Jaws does when you use control-X?

 

I ran into this when wanting to paste a link into an e-mail.  In Jaws you hit Alt-D, A, and C to get this done.  I did manage to copy to clipboard, but didn’t hear it spoken, so pulled up notepad to make sure I actually had copied the address.

 

It would seem easier if you could hear that your commands are carried out.

 

Thanks as always.

 

Judy

“Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings.”

 


Re: Announcing cut, copy, or paste

Gene
 

I now understand your message.  The add-on will cause the action to be announced but you are not discussing a JAWS command when you speak of alt followed by the letters.  That is a program command.  And control x is a Windows command.  You can cut text just by using control x.  The Windows command for copying text to the clipboard is control c.  It is much more convenient to use those commands.  The add-on will cause the announcement to be made when you use control x and control c. and JAWS will speak the actions as well.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Judy Jones
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 9:34 PM
Subject: [nvda] Announcing cut, copy, or paste

Hello To All,

 

Can NVDA be set to announc “cut text to clipboard,” as Jaws does when you use control-X?

 

I ran into this when wanting to paste a link into an e-mail.  In Jaws you hit Alt-D, A, and C to get this done.  I did manage to copy to clipboard, but didn’t hear it spoken, so pulled up notepad to make sure I actually had copied the address.

 

It would seem easier if you could hear that your commands are carried out.

 

Thanks as always.

 

Judy

“Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings.”

 


Re: Announcing cut, copy, or paste

Gene
 

I'm not sure what you are asking.  Are you asking about cutting text, then adding more text when you cut more?  I don't know what the command does that you are describing and you already know about control x for cutting text, which is a Windows command.  The Clipspeak add-on causes NVDA to announce that text is copied, cut, or pasted.  In many circumstances, it doesn't announce those things without the add-on but just what does the JAWS command do?
 
Gene 

----- Original Message -----
From: Judy Jones
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 9:34 PM
Subject: [nvda] Announcing cut, copy, or paste

Hello To All,

 

Can NVDA be set to announc “cut text to clipboard,” as Jaws does when you use control-X?

 

I ran into this when wanting to paste a link into an e-mail.  In Jaws you hit Alt-D, A, and C to get this done.  I did manage to copy to clipboard, but didn’t hear it spoken, so pulled up notepad to make sure I actually had copied the address.

 

It would seem easier if you could hear that your commands are carried out.

 

Thanks as always.

 

Judy

“Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings.”

 


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