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Free captcha solving chrome extension

Oliver Edholm
 

Hi!

I just wanted to announce that I'm now releasing a Chrome Extension for automatic captcha solving.

You can download the extension here: http://www.screenreader.ai/download_captcha_solver.html

I'm a sighted machine learning researcher that recently have caught an eye on the field of web accessibility.

Websites are primarily designed to be interacted with visually which is hard to do if you have a visual impairment. Here I think there's big potential for AI to help and look at the web page visually and then give correct and helpful information to the visually impaired or blind user.

I'm also the creator of the newly created but fairly popular NVDA add-on, "Image Describer", can be found at NVDA add-ons list, (if you're interested in trying out): https://addons.nvda-project.org/index.en.html

I'm looking towards doing much more than this, please contact me or reply to this thread if you want to get help with something accessibility wise or have any kind of feedback.


Re: Remove beeps from list of emails

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Joseph,

 

The Add-on is very successful! The beep tones make it very clear where one is in a list. The lower tones match the lower levels of the lsit and the higher at the top. I did not hear any left to right movement of the tones but perhaps that only applies to mouse navigation beeps?

 

I did find the beeping tracking the file explorer and document menu lists of files. I stopped them after turning off all the possible switches that I could find so I dont know exactly what turned them off and left the beeping in Outlook only!

 

For the moment, all is quiet and I am so relieved!

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 5:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remove beeps from list of emails

 

Hi,

At a nutshell, this add-on will beep the screen coordinate of the object one is moving to. This is applicable to both navigator object and system focus. This is the reason why the beep is heard.

I’d be curious to know if this happened with other apps – any app that presents controls that can be arrowed through (such as files and folders list in File Explorer) will exhibit this behavior.

The NVDA Core version of this add-on (pending approval from NV Access people as it was reviewed not long ago) will let users configure this setting:

  • No beep
  • Only beep for system focus changes
  • Beep for object navigation commands
  • Both system focus and object navigation

 

The intended purpose of Object Location Tones add-on (and the NVDA Core version of that) is to let users know where things are on screen – to serve as a screen orientation aid for those needing it. An equivalent functionality for touchscreens is part of Enhanced Touch Gestures (some portions of that add-on will be packaged as a pull request for NVDA later). If I didn’t spell that out clearly on add-ons page, I sincerely apologize (a huge failure on my part, which I need to address before I go down to Santa Ana, California for a national speech tournament next week).

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 9:41 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remove beeps from list of emails

 

So, as I understand the description, this is only supposed to happen when using Object navigation and moving the navigator with the navigator movement keys.  I wonder what it is in Outlook that causes the beeps to sound when the navigator is moved as it follows the application as used from the main keyboard?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Joseph Lee

Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 7:43 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Remove beeps from list of emails

 

Hi,

That’s my conclusion as well.

That add-on is meant to be a proof of concept implementation of the following NVDA issue:

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/2559

 

Luckily, the NVDA Core implementation of this add-on will be sensitive to configuration profiles – it is just awaiting code review at the moment.
Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 2:50 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remove beeps from list of emails

 

I just checked.  The name of the add-on is object location tones. 
The description says, "After installing this add-on and restarting NVDA (or when you enable this add-on), as you navigate to different controls, you'll hear tones to indicate where the object is located on screen."  It is evidently seeing items in Outlook like different messages in the list as controls.  I assume from the fact that you don't complain about this in other programs such as Windows Explorer, that this generally doesn't happen.

 

That also explains why when you turned off the object navigator moving as you moved in the application, that no beeps were heard.  the object navigator didn't move and the add-on was therefore unaware that you were moving in the application. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 4:36 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Remove beeps from list of emails

 

Joseph,

 

I went into the ad on manager and disabled your beep add-on and the problem has gone away! Now when I toggle NVDA+7 to either on or off there is no more beeping!

 

This is a brutal way to resolve the problem but it is a relief. However, I would like to understand what was happening and why I could not simply toggle the beeps on or off without losing the ability to Trak the cursor.

 

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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Re: Mozilla seems to have changed the options window, again

 

hi.
do you mean that firefox settings recently has accessibility issues
like google chrome which uses material design and even many sighted
users i read on the forums that are angry because of changes in
settings?
i really am not comfortable with chrome which i tested with different
versions and automaticly focus mode becomes activated for me and in
many cases, i even lose focus! and i should press tab multiple times
to go to my previous position in settings!

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<bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:
So basically then, the field is not focussed like it is on google but is on

the page. I wonder what the point of changing the way search works was?
Might worth reporting it on the Firefox bug tracker or on nvda github in
case a work around is possible.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
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To: "NVDA List" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 1:03 AM
Subject: [nvda] Cuttie Mozilla seems to have changed (again) the options'
window


Hey folks,
So the subject speaks for itself.
Some of you may remember me from the other thread about the add-ons'
section, isn't it?
Well, here we are again. Now, though, the situation is in fact at least
a little bit better.
Our dear mozilla, on what I believe to be the latest Firefox, changed in
a way the options' window, where we have general, privacy and such.
At first, I was about to post here asking for a workaround for this one,
but I found it myself.
The story is like that: being on said window, one can't, for their life,
arrow through the options anymore. Well, at least it was what I was
getting.
Then, don't know why, but as a last resort I tried to play with the
window using NVDA in focus mode.
Guess what? It worked!
In fact, I believe it worked because now in this very same window you
have a search field where you can type in parts of what you want to get,
for example "priva" for privacy. But, this field actually is also a
submenu!
No, you haven't read it wrong. It's a field and a submenu, as NVDA
reports it.
I'll have to say, that's the first time I've seen something like that.
Quite odd, if you ask me.

Well, all of this to say that, if you getting the same as I got, then
justdo the NVDA focus mode thing or the equivalent on your screen
reader, tab through the screen and then at some point you'll be able to
arrow through the options like we are used to do.

Cheers,
Marcio
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Re: Remove beeps from list of emails

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Thanks, Marcio,

 

I will do it that way when I need it.

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of marcio via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 11:24 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remove beeps from list of emails

 

Cearbhall,
I'm not Joseph, but let me answer your question :)
You can find the option to restart NVDA with all add-ons disabled on the exit dialog. I believe you know how to get there, though if you don't, it's NVDA+Q.
Another way of doing it is through the command line but I don't know the exact command.
I'm in a hurry now, but if nobody comes up with such a command, I can look it for you later on.


Cheers,
Marcio

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Em 11/04/2019 18:27, Cearbhall O'Meadhra disse:

Joseph,

 

How do I start with addons disabled?

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 3:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remove beeps from list of emails

 

Hi,

Another possibility: how about restarting with all add-ons turned off? That way we can figure out if this is an add-on problem (I have a hunch that it is one of my add-ons not working right for you, and if so, I’ll do something about it).

For others: this invalidates claims that the email client is to blame, although it might have something to do with it. We won’t find out until we go through troubleshooting steps.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 7:46 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remove beeps from list of emails

 

Joseph,

 

You are right, Quentin did ask me to send a log last night but I am only now getting around to it. As I was looking for the keystroke to launch the log, I accidentally struck NVDA+7 on the PC keyboard and the bleeping stopped! I toggled NVDA+7 again and the bleeping came back again! 

 

NVDA keyboard help tells me that: “NVDA+7 “Toggles on and off the movement of the navigator object due to focus changes!”.

 

Is this the answer to the problem? Can I enable this action without having to have the bleeps?

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Joseph Lee
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 3:13 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remove beeps from list of emails

 

Hi,

I don’t know if anyone has asked for one, but can you send an NVDA log (set to input/output) so people can find out what’s causing it? Thanks.

Cheers,

Joseph

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 7:08 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remove beeps from list of emails

 

Thanks, Jim,

 

I did not know about that function.

 

However, it is not that setting as I have it at “none” and the list of emails is still beeping!

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Jim Doherty
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 12:33 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remove beeps from list of emails

 

Cearbhall,

 

Try NVDA key and the letter u, you will get the options to either beep or voice and beeps or none, try none. It might work.

This is using a laptop the NVDA key is the cap lock key, not sure what it is on a desktop.

 

hth

Jim

 

 

From: Cearbhall O'Meadhra

Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 11:48 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Remove beeps from list of emails

 

Sorry, Chris,

 

Sounds are turned off in Ease of access in Outlook Options!

 

Amuwau. Tjos os s[ecofoc to NVDA and does not occur with any other screen reader.

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Chris via Groups.Io
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 10:54 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Remove beeps from list of emails

 

That be in outlook options under ease of access section

 

 

From: Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: 11 April 2019 09:14
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Remove beeps from list of emails

 

Hi,

 

I am trying to find out how to stop MVDA from beeping every time I press tab or arrow up or down in a list of emails in Outlook. I have turned off all mouse tracking in the settings menu but the beeping persists. Can anyone advise me what to do?

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

 

 


Re: Observation of Reply Behaviour of Some List Members

Tyler Wood
 

Just an addition to this.

In a lot of mail programs, threaded view can be found under the view menu. When enabled, your messages, essentially, turn into a tree view of sorts with the ability to expand and collapse each thread, or subject, as you see fit. Pressing the delete key on a closed thread will delete the entire thing – thus removing the step of deleting each and every message.

And, as mentioned, a web interface is certainly not needed for this whatsoever.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: April 12, 2019 2:08 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Observation of Reply Behaviour of Some List Members

 

If people want to read mail by thread, that will organize mail by topic and people may want to do this.  But you can use an e-mail program.  You don't have to use a web page and I argue that you don't benefit to a significant extent, if at all, by using a web interface in that regard.

 

I read almost all list mail and I don't bother to have it grouped.  But grouped or not, if people keep messages they may want to respond to and delete the rest as they read, however they read list mail, including in an e-mail program, they will automatically then have only messages they might want to reply to.  And they will already know if they have new information to add or would only be repeating what others have said. 

 

I'm emphasizing that an e-mail program can be used perfectly well for this because it is important that people not believe that using a web interface, which a lot of blind people don't want to do, is not at all necessary to do this.  Just read what you want as usual, and keep messages you may want to reply to. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Felix G.

Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 1:44 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Observation of Reply Behaviour of Some List Members

 

Hi,
I can only speak from my experience. Years ago I used to behave in the
same way, and the reason was that my mail reader wasn't configured to
a thread-centric view but rather to a message-centric one, so my inbox
was a one-dimensional list of messages. Nowadays I only use the Gmail
web interface and that sorts everything by threads, by importance, and
by lots of other criteria only the Google AI knows.
Best,
Felix

Am Fr., 12. Apr. 2019 um 07:31 Uhr schrieb Andre Fisher
<andrefisher729@...>:
>
> Hi.
>
> I've noticed a lot recently, that when a topic is replied to, some list members do not read the responses to the initial post. This is evident when someone asks a question, then gets a response, likely answering the question or resolving an issue. Subsequent responses to the thread seek to provide the same response, sometimes more than once, with the same solution/answer, or questions relating to the issue, even after the opening poster has stated in the thread that all is resolved. Is there a good explanation for this? Now, I am not a moderator, so can't enforce anything, but I find it very annoying to have to skip through multiple messages of the same origin. Why don't persons read the thread in its entirety before posting?
>


Re: Observation of Reply Behaviour of Some List Members

Tyler Wood
 

Hi,
The really frustrating part of this is when mail clients don't honor the thread system to begin with, which then adds even more confusion when you have 2 or more threads with the same subject and are actually trying to follow those threads. Someone could reply to a message in one thread but said message could have actually been meant for a reply in the *other* thread with the exact same subject.

Threaded view is something I can't recommend enough, with that being said. It makes it oh so easy to browse through a higher traffic mailing list and read through the subjects we're interested in as well as, most importantly, making sure a question has indeed been answered before hitting that reply button.

Why mail clients are still, in 2019 not honoring the threaded view and starting an entire new one is beyond me - is there anything specific that would cause such a thing?

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Felix G.
Sent: April 12, 2019 1:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Observation of Reply Behaviour of Some List Members

Hi,
I can only speak from my experience. Years ago I used to behave in the same way, and the reason was that my mail reader wasn't configured to a thread-centric view but rather to a message-centric one, so my inbox was a one-dimensional list of messages. Nowadays I only use the Gmail web interface and that sorts everything by threads, by importance, and by lots of other criteria only the Google AI knows.
Best,
Felix

Am Fr., 12. Apr. 2019 um 07:31 Uhr schrieb Andre Fisher
<andrefisher729@gmail.com>:

Hi.

I've noticed a lot recently, that when a topic is replied to, some list members do not read the responses to the initial post. This is evident when someone asks a question, then gets a response, likely answering the question or resolving an issue. Subsequent responses to the thread seek to provide the same response, sometimes more than once, with the same solution/answer, or questions relating to the issue, even after the opening poster has stated in the thread that all is resolved. Is there a good explanation for this? Now, I am not a moderator, so can't enforce anything, but I find it very annoying to have to skip through multiple messages of the same origin. Why don't persons read the thread in its entirety before posting?


Re: 7zip

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

This is not an nvda problem. You might get more joy on a more generic list. I certainly have had no issues with7zip here.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "farhan israk" <fahim.net.2014@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 6:36 AM
Subject: [nvda] 7zip


I'm not able to change settings in 7zip. After changing settings when I
click apply or ok, it shows access denied. How to save changed settings?



Re: Observation of Reply Behaviour of Some List Members

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

At the risk of sounding like a broken record. The mail feed from my isp can be severely time warped. The key effect of this is that the replies that you see are not visible to myself maybe for some hours.
Brian our moderator does not agree that this can occur, but those of us here in the UK using Virginmedia (maybe others too), will know it happens. Nobody at virgin will admit it does. I do not feel that this minor issue will be enough for me to switch all subscriptions to gmail or some other provider, so apologies if this sometimes looks like one has not read the entire thread, but this is how life works and we live with it.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 8:08 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Observation of Reply Behaviour of Some List Members


If people want to read mail by thread, that will organize mail by topic and people may want to do this. But you can use an e-mail program. You don't have to use a web page and I argue that you don't benefit to a significant extent, if at all, by using a web interface in that regard.

I read almost all list mail and I don't bother to have it grouped. But grouped or not, if people keep messages they may want to respond to and delete the rest as they read, however they read list mail, including in an e-mail program, they will automatically then have only messages they might want to reply to. And they will already know if they have new information to add or would only be repeating what others have said.

I'm emphasizing that an e-mail program can be used perfectly well for this because it is important that people not believe that using a web interface, which a lot of blind people don't want to do, is not at all necessary to do this. Just read what you want as usual, and keep messages you may want to reply to.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Felix G.
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 1:44 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Observation of Reply Behaviour of Some List Members


Hi,
I can only speak from my experience. Years ago I used to behave in the
same way, and the reason was that my mail reader wasn't configured to
a thread-centric view but rather to a message-centric one, so my inbox
was a one-dimensional list of messages. Nowadays I only use the Gmail
web interface and that sorts everything by threads, by importance, and
by lots of other criteria only the Google AI knows.
Best,
Felix

Am Fr., 12. Apr. 2019 um 07:31 Uhr schrieb Andre Fisher
<andrefisher729@gmail.com>:

Hi.

I've noticed a lot recently, that when a topic is replied to, some list members do not read the responses to the initial post. This is evident when someone asks a question, then gets a response, likely answering the question or resolving an issue. Subsequent responses to the thread seek to provide the same response, sometimes more than once, with the same solution/answer, or questions relating to the issue, even after the opening poster has stated in the thread that all is resolved. Is there a good explanation for this? Now, I am not a moderator, so can't enforce anything, but I find it very annoying to have to skip through multiple messages of the same origin. Why don't persons read the thread in its entirety before posting?


Re: Dymo label writer

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Well if you have the program name and can point a developer or add on writer at it then you may get some replies. I've never used it but from your description it sounds like its not a proper windows bit of software and that nvda therefore finds it hard to figure out what is on the screen.
Have you explored it with object and screen navigation to see if any of the key buttons, menus or edit fields can be seen by nvda that way?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Jim Pipczak" <jim.pipczak@visionaustralia.org>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 6:11 AM
Subject: [nvda] Dymo label writer


Hi all,

Does anyone use a Dymo label printer? The only way I can find to enter text in a label is to use the mouse to click in the label. I guess I’m lucky enough to have enough sight to be able to use a mouse, However, I want an answer for those who do not have enough sight to use the mouse.

Although I always sincerely appreciate everyone’s suggestions, I really want to hear from anyone who actually uses the program and has solved the problem.

Have a great weekend.

Many thanks,
Jim



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Re: list

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Yes the paradox of this thread is that it is in fact about the list not nvda!
So I personally feel this has been clarified. However you may wish to also subscribe to the chat list where these more general things can be discussed without clogging up the list, so to speak.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Felix G." <constantlyvariable@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 7:37 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] list


Hi,
I think the misunderstanding here is the difference between encouraged
and enforced. Those of us who feel comfortable using the archive are
encouraged to do so, but from what I observe, this is a very beginner
friendly place, even one where NVDA newbies are explicitly invited in!
All the best,
Felix

Am Fr., 12. Apr. 2019 um 07:44 Uhr schrieb marcio via Groups.Io
<marcinhorj21=yahoo.com.br@groups.io>:

Cindy,
Please don't leave the list. I'm sure your questions will be more than welcome here.
As I am not a moderator, I'll leave this one to Brian V., so he'll clarify things better for you.
Again, please, don't leave the list.

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy
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Em 12/04/2019 01:55, slery disse:

Apparently, in my vast backlog of emails I have missed something regarding the policy of this list.



As it appears one is to use the archives for beginner questions, where can I find a list that is only for beginner NVDA users?



I have no knowledge to contribute to this list and as my archive skills are always lacking (even when looking for replies to my own messages from a year ago), I will not bother this list with any more questions. In fact, I will probably leave at the beginning of next week and only stick around long enough for something to tell me where the beginner list is.



Cindy



Re: Announcing cut, copy, or paste

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I have had problems with this add on in windows 7. it gives spurious not enough memory alerts on some versions of Microsoft word, but otherwise it works. Just test it and see if it works for you. I have to say I have a dummy announcement add on but one has to say it is not confirming anything has been pasted, it just tells you the right keys were operated.
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 5:32 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcing cut, copy, or paste


Hi there. She’s talking about the clipspeac ad on.
On Apr 12, 2019, at 6:16 AM, Gene <gsasner@gmail.com> wrote:

I'm not sure what you are asking. Are you asking about cutting text, then adding more text when you cut more? I don't know what the command does that you are describing and you already know about control x for cutting text, which is a Windows command. The Clipspeak add-on causes NVDA to announce that text is copied, cut, or pasted. In many circumstances, it doesn't announce those things without the add-on but just what does the JAWS command do?

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Judy Jones
Sent: Thursday, April 11, 2019 9:34 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Announcing cut, copy, or paste

Hello To All,

Can NVDA be set to announc “cut text to clipboard,” as Jaws does when you use control-X?

I ran into this when wanting to paste a link into an e-mail. In Jaws you hit Alt-D, A, and C to get this done. I did manage to copy to clipboard, but didn’t hear it spoken, so pulled up notepad to make sure I actually had copied the address.

It would seem easier if you could hear that your commands are carried out.

Thanks as always.

Judy
“Embrace the day with its mercies and blessings.”


Re: Mozilla seems to have changed the options window, again

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So basically then, the field is not focussed like it is on google but is on the page. I wonder what the point of changing the way search works was? Might worth reporting it on the Firefox bug tracker or on nvda github in case a work around is possible.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "marcio via Groups.Io" <marcinhorj21=yahoo.com.br@groups.io>
To: "NVDA List" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 1:03 AM
Subject: [nvda] Cuttie Mozilla seems to have changed (again) the options' window


Hey folks,
So the subject speaks for itself.
Some of you may remember me from the other thread about the add-ons'
section, isn't it?
Well, here we are again. Now, though, the situation is in fact at least
a little bit better.
Our dear mozilla, on what I believe to be the latest Firefox, changed in
a way the options' window, where we have general, privacy and such.
At first, I was about to post here asking for a workaround for this one,
but I found it myself.
The story is like that: being on said window, one can't, for their life,
arrow through the options anymore. Well, at least it was what I was getting.
Then, don't know why, but as a last resort I tried to play with the
window using NVDA in focus mode.
Guess what? It worked!
In fact, I believe it worked because now in this very same window you
have a search field where you can type in parts of what you want to get,
for example "priva" for privacy. But, this field actually is also a submenu!
No, you haven't read it wrong. It's a field and a submenu, as NVDA
reports it.
I'll have to say, that's the first time I've seen something like that.
Quite odd, if you ask me.

Well, all of this to say that, if you getting the same as I got, then
justdo the NVDA focus mode thing or the equivalent on your screen
reader, tab through the screen and then at some point you'll be able to
arrow through the options like we are used to do.

Cheers,
Marcio
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Re: with NVDA Microsoft EDGE (chrome)

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So to be specific for any of the devs monitoring this.
Are you saying that this nvda behaviour is both in native Chrome and the Microsoft Edge implementation?
If so when did this start, ie can you pin it down to an n nvda or a chrome version.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Arlene" <nedster66@gmail.com>
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Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 12:41 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] with NVDAMicrosoft EDGE (chrome)


I can confirm this. I’ve seen this issue using Chrome. I think this issue will Iron itself out.

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From: Ian Westerland
Sent: April 11, 2019 2:20 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] with NVDAMicrosoft EDGE (chrome)



Hello Curtis. I have the same issue here. When I load Chrome, NVDA
goes to sleep but works again when I re-load it. It's a strange issue
because NVDA doesn't hang. It just stops speaking. I am sure that with
the current and rapid changes to Browsers, the issues will resolve soon.

Ian Westerland



On 4/12/2019 6:28 AM, Curtis Delzer wrote:
Sometimes when alt-tabbing away and back to the screen of the browser,
NVDA forgets it's environment, meaning that the buttons can't be
navigated too with hot keys b and shift b, etc. When I reload NVDA, all
is well again. :)


Re: Observation of Reply Behaviour of Some List Members

Gene
 

If people want to read mail by thread, that will organize mail by topic and people may want to do this.  But you can use an e-mail program.  You don't have to use a web page and I argue that you don't benefit to a significant extent, if at all, by using a web interface in that regard.
 
I read almost all list mail and I don't bother to have it grouped.  But grouped or not, if people keep messages they may want to respond to and delete the rest as they read, however they read list mail, including in an e-mail program, they will automatically then have only messages they might want to reply to.  And they will already know if they have new information to add or would only be repeating what others have said. 
 
I'm emphasizing that an e-mail program can be used perfectly well for this because it is important that people not believe that using a web interface, which a lot of blind people don't want to do, is not at all necessary to do this.  Just read what you want as usual, and keep messages you may want to reply to. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Felix G.
Sent: Friday, April 12, 2019 1:44 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Observation of Reply Behaviour of Some List Members

Hi,
I can only speak from my experience. Years ago I used to behave in the
same way, and the reason was that my mail reader wasn't configured to
a thread-centric view but rather to a message-centric one, so my inbox
was a one-dimensional list of messages. Nowadays I only use the Gmail
web interface and that sorts everything by threads, by importance, and
by lots of other criteria only the Google AI knows.
Best,
Felix

Am Fr., 12. Apr. 2019 um 07:31 Uhr schrieb Andre Fisher
<andrefisher729@...>:
>
> Hi.
>
> I've noticed a lot recently, that when a topic is replied to, some list members do not read the responses to the initial post. This is evident when someone asks a question, then gets a response, likely answering the question or resolving an issue. Subsequent responses to the thread seek to provide the same response, sometimes more than once, with the same solution/answer, or questions relating to the issue, even after the opening poster has stated in the thread that all is resolved. Is there a good explanation for this? Now, I am not a moderator, so can't enforce anything, but I find it very annoying to have to skip through multiple messages of the same origin. Why don't persons read the thread in its entirety before posting?
>



Re: Observation of Reply Behaviour of Some List Members

Felix G.
 

Hi,
I can only speak from my experience. Years ago I used to behave in the
same way, and the reason was that my mail reader wasn't configured to
a thread-centric view but rather to a message-centric one, so my inbox
was a one-dimensional list of messages. Nowadays I only use the Gmail
web interface and that sorts everything by threads, by importance, and
by lots of other criteria only the Google AI knows.
Best,
Felix

Am Fr., 12. Apr. 2019 um 07:31 Uhr schrieb Andre Fisher
<andrefisher729@gmail.com>:


Hi.

I've noticed a lot recently, that when a topic is replied to, some list members do not read the responses to the initial post. This is evident when someone asks a question, then gets a response, likely answering the question or resolving an issue. Subsequent responses to the thread seek to provide the same response, sometimes more than once, with the same solution/answer, or questions relating to the issue, even after the opening poster has stated in the thread that all is resolved. Is there a good explanation for this? Now, I am not a moderator, so can't enforce anything, but I find it very annoying to have to skip through multiple messages of the same origin. Why don't persons read the thread in its entirety before posting?


Re: list

Felix G.
 

Hi,
I think the misunderstanding here is the difference between encouraged
and enforced. Those of us who feel comfortable using the archive are
encouraged to do so, but from what I observe, this is a very beginner
friendly place, even one where NVDA newbies are explicitly invited in!
All the best,
Felix

Am Fr., 12. Apr. 2019 um 07:44 Uhr schrieb marcio via Groups.Io
<marcinhorj21=yahoo.com.br@groups.io>:


Cindy,
Please don't leave the list. I'm sure your questions will be more than welcome here.
As I am not a moderator, I'll leave this one to Brian V., so he'll clarify things better for you.
Again, please, don't leave the list.

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy
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Em 12/04/2019 01:55, slery disse:

Apparently, in my vast backlog of emails I have missed something regarding the policy of this list.



As it appears one is to use the archives for beginner questions, where can I find a list that is only for beginner NVDA users?



I have no knowledge to contribute to this list and as my archive skills are always lacking (even when looking for replies to my own messages from a year ago), I will not bother this list with any more questions. In fact, I will probably leave at the beginning of next week and only stick around long enough for something to tell me where the beginner list is.



Cindy



Re: list

 

Cindy,
Please don't leave the list. I'm sure your questions will be more than welcome here.
As I am not a moderator, I'll leave this one to Brian V., so he'll clarify things better for you.
Again, please, don't leave the list.

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy
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Em 12/04/2019 01:55, slery disse:

Apparently, in my vast backlog of emails I have missed something regarding the policy of this list.

 

As it appears one is to use the archives for beginner questions, where can I find a list that is only for beginner NVDA users?

 

I have no knowledge to contribute to this list and as my archive skills are always lacking (even when looking for replies to my own messages from a year ago), I will not bother this list with any more questions. In fact, I will probably leave at the beginning of next week and only stick around long enough for something to tell me where the beginner list is.

 

Cindy



7zip

farhan israk
 

I'm not able to change settings in 7zip. After changing settings when I click apply or ok, it shows access denied. How to save changed settings?


Imo with nvda

farhan israk
 

I heard that imo for computer is inaccessible. Is it true? Can't I use it?


Observation of Reply Behaviour of Some List Members

Andre Fisher
 

Hi.

I've noticed a lot recently, that when a topic is replied to, some list members do not read the responses to the initial post. This is evident when someone asks a question, then gets a response, likely answering the question or resolving an issue. Subsequent responses to the thread seek to provide the same response, sometimes more than once, with the same solution/answer, or questions relating to the issue, even after the opening poster has stated in the thread that all is resolved. Is there a good explanation for this? Now, I am not a moderator, so can't enforce anything, but I find it very annoying to have to skip through multiple messages of the same origin. Why don't persons read the thread in its entirety before posting?