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Re: new dropbox rules

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


as long as they do not do it on links that people access i would have to tear down every link on the website that went to web pages.


I will go up later on and see if i have any other devices connected that is what it sounds like but it did mention some thing about exceeding my device link limit. I am sure i only have the one device here connected to the drop box account but hundreds of links on the site to my drop box account.


Gene nz




On 13/04/2019 5:09 PM, Shaun Everiss wrote:
Hi all.

This is a small warning to everyone that uses dropbox.

From march this year, all basic accounts are limited to 3 devices.

What does that mean?

Nothing, except that dropbox remembers every device and session ever made.

So you reformat your computer or change your account name, or get another computer and don't unlink first, your device becomes a ghost device same with app programs, and brouser sessions.

1.  sign into dropbox.

The easiest way to do this is to login with your own client, click the tray icon and launch dropbox.

Now near the top of the page is a menu called my account hit space on that, scroll down to settings, hit shift space to exit forms mode then hit enter.

Don't move about else things will just not work right.

Now dropbox settings load.

hit control home for the top of the page then h.

2.  select security tab, in the same way, enter forms mode once you scroll down to the list of tabs, and locate security.

get out of forms mode and hit enter.

Next control home again.

then hit t.

3.  The next thing to do is locate every session in the first table which has an end session button it and hit the space bar till they are all gone.

Next  locate the device tree which is directly below the brouser treeview.

The first device in the list is your device.

scroll to the end of that list.

Every device you have ever linked including every ghost device linked in the past will exist, I had 6, my dad had 2.

Hit unlink button on all the devices bar the one that says its been modified in the last hour.

Every other device will have a time when it was last valid.

Finally go through the steps of going to my account, then settingss however next select the connected apps view.

Then disconnect every app you don't use and service.

If you need to link devices take note of the devices you want to connect.

A basic user can connect up to 3 devices.

Those can be a computer, a phone and one other device or 3 computers.

You can buy, but to be honest, if you get this warning and are only using 1 device, then you probably have a lot of ghost devices.

I'd also update your password at this time if you have forgotten it if you havn't allready.

I'd also check to see if you know what all the devices you have are, if you find something you don't know, then chances are someone has hacked your account or you linked to a device somewhere else.

In a way this while annoying is good in a way.

I had no idea dropbox kept all devices from all reformats and all times I had changed dropbox.

I had 6 devices, 1 is my device I had.

The next one before that was my old win7 device which I may relink later.

The rest were my win7 and xp devices and their reformats including profile changes etc.

My apps were not needed ones and I clobbered them.

As for my brouser sessions including the current one there were 19 others which were still signed in from devices that were no longer active.

In the case of my dad's system, there were 2 devices, the current one, and an older instance of the same device which existed before it, its good to know that I was able to kill things.

Now I know about this, if I need to reformat my first thing after I get back in is to kill the ghost devices that linger inactive after the fact.

This actually is a good reason to check security on my account if anything else.

Its worth noting that if you need more space and upgrade you won't have to bother with this though even if you do knowing what I had, its worth looking at the site anyway.

I didn't need all those 20 sessions logged in at once, nore did I need the 6 devices 4 of which were ghosts of old linked devices and one which is not on the network.

I guess knowing that I could link that one but even so I will be carefull to check every linked system I service to make sure its all clear of stuff that shouldn't be on it.





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Re: How to contact list members off list?

Brice Mijares
 

Using thunderbird, all you have to do is hit the context key and arrow down to copy email address and it goes right to the clipboard.

On 4/13/2019 1:21 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, Gene,
It works the same way in thunderbird too. I was just able to tab to the link with your email address.
Rosemarie
On 4/13/2019 1:18 PM, Gene wrote:
Not a bug, its because of what Brian said, that the sender's address isn't in the to field.  But I didn't know what would happen when this was tried because the program might get the information from something else in the message.
In Windows Live Mail, if you are in a message and you shift tab through the headers, you get to a button that says Contact's name and the name is shown there.  If you right click or use the context menu key, you find options, one of which is to send message.  If you press enter, a message opens with the sender's address in it when working with this list.  So Windows Live Mail gets the information even if the address isn't in the from line.  As I said, how you do this varies from program to program but one thing I've always found to work is the message properties and that's why I discussed it, in case it is needed.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Dan Beaver <mailto:dbeaver888@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Saturday, April 13, 2019 3:05 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] How to contact list members off list?

Gene,


I just tried this and it does  show a reply to sender choice. However, when on the email in the list and I do this it opens a new email but the to: field is populated with the list email address not the original sender.  Maybe a bug here or something.


Dan Beaver

On 4/13/2019 3:56 PM, Gene wrote:
Thunderbird appears not to have a message properties function.  But you can see the message details by opening message source in the view menu.  If you look down the details, you will find the from information.
But if you can do it the following way instead, it is much faster and easier.
Don't be in the message.  Be on the message in the list.
Open the context menu.  You will find all sorts of items regarding working with the message and other items.  You can see if reply to sender works.with mail from various lists.  I don't have Thunderbird associated with any account I use for list mail.
Gene <mailto:gsasner@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Saturday, April 13, 2019 2:41 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] How to contact list members off list?

Whatever the case, if you get into message properties and look at the technical information, the senders address is included in any e-mail program I've looked at this in.  That's on this list as well.  I don't know if this is universal, but I wouldn't be surprised if it is very wide spread.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Brian Vogel <mailto:britechguy@gmail.com>
*Sent:* Saturday, April 13, 2019 2:23 PM
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] How to contact list members off list?

Judy,

          I don't think there's a way to do this under Groups.io because the actual sender's address is not a part of the From: field.

          If it were, you could use the standard Reply keyboard shortcut, but doing that for a list message replies to the group, not the originating sender.  I believe the only way to reply directly to sender, without also including the list, with ease in most e-mail clients is hitting that Reply to Sender link at the end of messages or digest entries.  That's why that particular link came into existence in the very early days of Groups.io.

           I've never dealt with an e-mailing list where direct replies to originating senders of single messages didn't involve a workaround of some kind as the From: and Reply-To are usually set to the mailing list address.
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locked Re: Free captcha solving firefox extension

 

Did you yourself tried it again after you got the extension?

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Em 13/04/2019 17:29, Inam Uddin via Groups.Io disse:

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From: marcio via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2019 12:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Free captcha solving firefox extension

 

Wow that's true! I just checked it and haven't found any single link to a Firefox extension download.
However, people seem to have downloaded it successfully.
So folks, come here, tell us what's the secret about it.


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Em 13/04/2019 14:53, Shaun Everiss disse:

I only see the chrome one there isn't any way to add this to my firefox/waterfox program unless you make an addon file for it and the firefox extention page is not on main page of the site and that page only downloads the chrome extention.

I do wander what is needed to make it official extention or something.

 

 

On 13/04/2019 8:22 PM, Oliver Edholm wrote:

Hi!

You may have seen that a free captcha solving chrome extension was released yesterday, below is a link for firefox as well!

You can download the extension here: http://www.screenreader.ai/download_firefox_captcha_solver.html

I'm a sighted machine learning researcher that recently have caught an eye on the field of web accessibility.

Websites are primarily designed to be interacted with visually which is hard to do if you have a visual impairment. Here I think there's big potential for AI to help and look at the web page visually and then give correct and helpful information to the visually impaired or blind user.

I'm also the creator of the newly created but fairly popular NVDA add-on, "Image Describer", can be found at NVDA add-ons list, (if you're interested in trying out): https://addons.nvda-project.org/index.en.html

I'm looking towards doing much more than this, please contact me or reply to this thread if you want to get help with something accessibility wise or have any kind of feedback.

 

 



Re: new dropbox rules

 

Arlene,
Pasted from Shaun's original message
1. sign into dropbox.
 The easiest way to do this is to login with your own client, click the tray icon and launch dropbox.
 
 Now near the top of the page is a menu called my account hit space on that, scroll down to settings, hit shift space to exit forms mode then hit enter.
 
 Don't move about else things will just not work right.
 
 Now dropbox settings load.
 
 hit control home for the top of the page then h.
 
 2. select security tab, in the same way, enter forms mode once you scroll down to the list of tabs, and locate security.
 
 get out of forms mode and hit enter.
 
 Next control home again.
 
 then hit t.
 
 3. The next thing to do is locate every session in the first table which has an end session button it and hit the space bar till they are all gone.
 
 Next locate the device tree which is directly below the brouser treeview.
 
 The first device in the list is your device.
 
 scroll to the end of that list.
 
 Every device you have ever linked including every ghost device linked in the past will exist, I had 6, my dad had 2.
 
 Hit unlink button on all the devices bar the one that says its been modified in the last hour.
 
 Every other device will have a time when it was last valid.
 
 Finally go through the steps of going to my account, then settingss
 however next select the connected apps view.
 
 Then disconnect every app you don't use and service.

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Em 13/04/2019 17:32, Arlene disse:

Hi how does one see how many devices you have on the dropbox site?  I want to release my old windows 7 box from it. I keep getting notifications saying my drop box is full.  I tried to find my old device so I can release it from the site.  In the old xp days you were able to do it.  Once you got a new computer you can or were easily able to release your old device with no problem.  I did it before with my old win 7 when my xp box was given to  a sighted friend. Nno big deal.  I was able to go to the site and release it. Now I was trying to find where I can go release my old 7 box.  Then I can’t be nagged by drop box saying your box is full when it isn’t.  The only thing I can think of. My old device is still there.  I want to get rid of it from the site.  The way they tell it.  In order to see your devices you have to upgrade your account to a business.  They’re telling me I can’t add new devices to my account because I don’t have enough space.  That’s why I want to go there and get rid of my dead box.  I think its still there.They think I have more then one device.  Thanks.  I’ll just have to go hunt it down.   

 

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From: Gerardo Corripio
Sent: April 13, 2019 12:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new dropbox rules

 

Do you guys know if when one goes to, let’s say my Amazon Tablet, and I sign out of its Dropbox, Dropbox automatically deletes the device which one signed out of? I went into via Safari on my iPhone, to Dropbox.com/Security/Devices, and my tablet I don’t seeit there. I only see my Laptop, Iphone and Android, thus if someday I were to get an Ipad,noproblem: justsign out of my Android device,having the 3rd spacefor an Ipad, or other futuregadgetI’dget, with which to use Dropbox with.

Speaking ofwhich, anyone have invite linksfor Dropbox, toget maybe a bit more of Dropbox space? I invited my Dad, but no extra space was given at my end, nor at his! My current Dropbox space is at almost 9GB, wanting to get at least 12GB.

 

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De: Shaun Everiss
Enviado: sábado, 13 de abril de 2019 01:07 p. m.
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Asunto: Re: [nvda] new dropbox rules

 

Firstly no it does not effect shared folders.

 

Iff you have machines linked daily, they will stay linked.

 

But if you for any reason need to reformat, or something you will not be

able to link till your linked devices are cleared.

 

If you need to use more than 3 units at one time, and for a basic user

its highly unlikely you should need many units, I have a few suggestions.

 

1.  while a real pain, buying an upgrade to your account may be the

easiest option.

 

2.  you can of course use the website for unlimited devices its all the

linked client deals.

 

I suggest you view your devices, any machines with new profiles on

accounts, reformats, xp and other wise, well the older units will exist

but be inactive.

 

You may need to make other accounts for extra machines if you really

need that.

 

To be honest, if you are really using more then 3 units daily, and don't

want to pay for dropbox storage space, you could buy google storage space.

 

While its quite a lot for over 2tb of storage, a 100-200mb storage space

doesn't cost that much.

 

On icloud its a little more but 200 mb is still only 10 bucks, dropbox

is 9 bucks for 1tb though.

 

To be honest if it is part of your work and or something you really use,

I'd try to stomach all the stuff that went with it and get the full

office 360, that can be 100 or so a year but you get office, the space,

and basically the skype version of your cellphone plan from any previder.

 

There is no reason for anyone to need more than 3 devices, 2 at most.

 

If you really need to sync things and while you will not be able to use

a credit card, it may be easier to buy resilio home pro for 50 bucks,

you will need the space to sync folders but you can supposedly selective

sync the folders and share keys about.

 

How many of the devices are daily uses, and how many devices do you need

synced.

 

If its 5 fine, but I doubt its really that.

 

For saldom used devices, maybe its easier to unlink everything bar the

most used devices your phone and at least 1 pc instance, then simply

transfer about.

 

I have another pc on win7 about, but I don't really need to sync that

with dropbox as such for what I use it for though I guess I can do that

I just have to remember to police my device and session lists thats not

a real issue if you think about it.

 

To be honest, I'd like an ability to have a device if not used in say 6

months to a year to be automatically kulled from the linked device list.

 

In my mind its completely unlikely you will need to use more than 3

units, certainly a laptop and a phone maybe but not both.

 

For me, I don't know if I would bother linking my phone to dropbox for

the reason I really don't need anything of that on my phone to do

anything with.

 

I have 1 unit and 1 only on client.

 

Knowing what dropbox is now, I do think if I actually got into a

business, I'd gofor a 5 user personal or business pack of office linked

things rather than dropbox, or dropbox 1tb maybe I'd do that thats still

quite cheap I guess.

 

 

 

On 13/04/2019 10:53 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

> How does this affect shared folders?

> I assume if others share with you and you share with them then its no

> issue.

> So what is the system doing about people like us who used to have xp

> machines in, or our office whose account has 5 machines in use daily

> as well as one phone?

> I read the email mystified about it and wondering if it was in fact

> phishing as there have been no email warnings or anything which seems

> to me to be pretty poor practice.

> So did you find the web site  really navigable with nvda or did you

> need to go to Jaws or maybe do it on an I phone?

> How much is involved in the upgrrade I looked at this some time ago

> and the site is very hard to use and figure it out.

> Brian

> bglists@...

> Sent via blueyonder.

> Please address personal E-mail to:-

> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'

> in the display name field.

> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@...>

> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2019 6:09 AM

> Subject: [nvda] new dropbox rules

>> Hi all.

>> 

>> This is a small warning to everyone that uses dropbox.

>> 

>> From march this year, all basic accounts are limited to 3 devices.

>> 

>> What does that mean?

>> 

>> Nothing, except that dropbox remembers every device and session ever

>> made.

>> 

>> So you reformat your computer or change your account name, or get

>> another computer and don't unlink first, your device becomes a ghost

>> device same with app programs, and brouser sessions.

>> 

>> 1. sign into dropbox.

>> 

>> The easiest way to do this is to login with your own client, click

>> the tray icon and launch dropbox.

>> 

>> Now near the top of the page is a menu called my account hit space on

>> that, scroll down to settings, hit shift space to exit forms mode

>> then hit enter.

>> 

>> Don't move about else things will just not work right.

>> 

>> Now dropbox settings load.

>> 

>> hit control home for the top of the page then h.

>> 

>> 2. select security tab, in the same way, enter forms mode once you

>> scroll down to the list of tabs, and locate security.

>> 

>> get out of forms mode and hit enter.

>> 

>> Next control home again.

>> 

>> then hit t.

>> 

>> 3. The next thing to do is locate every session in the first table

>> which has an end session button it and hit the space bar till they

>> are all gone.

>> 

>> Next locate the device tree which is directly below the brouser

>> treeview.

>> 

>> The first device in the list is your device.

>> 

>> scroll to the end of that list.

>> 

>> Every device you have ever linked including every ghost device linked

>> in the past will exist, I had 6, my dad had 2.

>> 

>> Hit unlink button on all the devices bar the one that says its been

>> modified in the last hour.

>> 

>> Every other device will have a time when it was last valid.

>> 

>> Finally go through the steps of going to my account, then settingss

>> however next select the connected apps view.

>> 

>> Then disconnect every app you don't use and service.

>> 

>> If you need to link devices take note of the devices you want to

>> connect.

>> 

>> A basic user can connect up to 3 devices.

>> 

>> Those can be a computer, a phone and one other device or 3 computers.

>> 

>> You can buy, but to be honest, if you get this warning and are only

>> using 1 device, then you probably have a lot of ghost devices.

>> 

>> I'd also update your password at this time if you have forgotten it

>> if you havn't allready.

>> 

>> I'd also check to see if you know what all the devices you have are,

>> if you find something you don't know, then chances are someone has

>> hacked your account or you linked to a device somewhere else.

>> 

>> In a way this while annoying is good in a way.

>> 

>> I had no idea dropbox kept all devices from all reformats and all

>> times I had changed dropbox.

>> 

>> I had 6 devices, 1 is my device I had.

>> 

>> The next one before that was my old win7 device which I may relink

>> later.

>> 

>> The rest were my win7 and xp devices and their reformats including

>> profile changes etc.

>> 

>> My apps were not needed ones and I clobbered them.

>> 

>> As for my brouser sessions including the current one there were 19

>> others which were still signed in from devices that were no longer

>> active.

>> 

>> In the case of my dad's system, there were 2 devices, the current

>> one, and an older instance of the same device which existed before

>> it, its good to know that I was able to kill things.

>> 

>> Now I know about this, if I need to reformat my first thing after I

>> get back in is to kill the ghost devices that linger inactive after

>> the fact.

>> 

>> This actually is a good reason to check security on my account if

>> anything else.

>> 

>> Its worth noting that if you need more space and upgrade you won't

>> have to bother with this though even if you do knowing what I had,

>> its worth looking at the site anyway.

>> 

>> I didn't need all those 20 sessions logged in at once, nore did I

>> need the 6 devices 4 of which were ghosts of old linked devices and

>> one which is not on the network.

>> 

>> I guess knowing that I could link that one but even so I will be

>> carefull to check every linked system I service to make sure its all

>> clear of stuff that shouldn't be on it.

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>

> .

 

 

 

 



Re: new dropbox rules

Arlene
 

Wow.  All I want to do is get rid of my old dead win 7 box.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Shaun Everiss
Sent: April 13, 2019 11:10 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new dropbox rules

 

Well I was amazed on how many devices and sessions still active in my

security dashboard.

 

6 devices, 2 of which are 1 my primary and 2 my secondary win7 box but

who knows if I will ever use that for anything and even if I do, I may

not sync it.

 

I had at least 3 others.

 

The first was an xp box and the other 2 were reformatted systems or

systems with busted profiles no longer used.

 

I had 20 sessions of webbrousers open, 19 of those were old sessions why

they didn't close inactives is interesting.

 

MOre important, its scarey to note persistance of inactive things, I

mean if any of those were not mine, ...

 

 

 

On 14/04/2019 12:36 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

> Hi if you have an Iphone its considerably easier. I won't clutter here

> with it, but I just removed a computer I do not have and

> a second occurrence of one I do have before I changed the password.

> something I cannot now do on the pc due to the problem of my computer

> no longer reading the log in from the desktop app.

> Brian

> bglists@...

> Sent via blueyonder.

> Please address personal E-mail to:-

> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'

> in the display name field.

> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@...>

> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2019 6:09 AM

> Subject: [nvda] new dropbox rules

>> Hi all.

>> 

>> This is a small warning to everyone that uses dropbox.

>> 

>> From march this year, all basic accounts are limited to 3 devices.

>> 

>> What does that mean?

>> 

>> Nothing, except that dropbox remembers every device and session ever

>> made.

>> 

>> So you reformat your computer or change your account name, or get

>> another computer and don't unlink first, your device becomes a ghost

>> device same with app programs, and brouser sessions.

>> 

>> 1. sign into dropbox.

>> 

>> The easiest way to do this is to login with your own client, click

>> the tray icon and launch dropbox.

>> 

>> Now near the top of the page is a menu called my account hit space on

>> that, scroll down to settings, hit shift space to exit forms mode

>> then hit enter.

>> 

>> Don't move about else things will just not work right.

>> 

>> Now dropbox settings load.

>> 

>> hit control home for the top of the page then h.

>> 

>> 2. select security tab, in the same way, enter forms mode once you

>> scroll down to the list of tabs, and locate security.

>> 

>> get out of forms mode and hit enter.

>> 

>> Next control home again.

>> 

>> then hit t.

>> 

>> 3. The next thing to do is locate every session in the first table

>> which has an end session button it and hit the space bar till they

>> are all gone.

>> 

>> Next locate the device tree which is directly below the brouser

>> treeview.

>> 

>> The first device in the list is your device.

>> 

>> scroll to the end of that list.

>> 

>> Every device you have ever linked including every ghost device linked

>> in the past will exist, I had 6, my dad had 2.

>> 

>> Hit unlink button on all the devices bar the one that says its been

>> modified in the last hour.

>> 

>> Every other device will have a time when it was last valid.

>> 

>> Finally go through the steps of going to my account, then settingss

>> however next select the connected apps view.

>> 

>> Then disconnect every app you don't use and service.

>> 

>> If you need to link devices take note of the devices you want to

>> connect.

>> 

>> A basic user can connect up to 3 devices.

>> 

>> Those can be a computer, a phone and one other device or 3 computers.

>> 

>> You can buy, but to be honest, if you get this warning and are only

>> using 1 device, then you probably have a lot of ghost devices.

>> 

>> I'd also update your password at this time if you have forgotten it

>> if you havn't allready.

>> 

>> I'd also check to see if you know what all the devices you have are,

>> if you find something you don't know, then chances are someone has

>> hacked your account or you linked to a device somewhere else.

>> 

>> In a way this while annoying is good in a way.

>> 

>> I had no idea dropbox kept all devices from all reformats and all

>> times I had changed dropbox.

>> 

>> I had 6 devices, 1 is my device I had.

>> 

>> The next one before that was my old win7 device which I may relink

>> later.

>> 

>> The rest were my win7 and xp devices and their reformats including

>> profile changes etc.

>> 

>> My apps were not needed ones and I clobbered them.

>> 

>> As for my brouser sessions including the current one there were 19

>> others which were still signed in from devices that were no longer

>> active.

>> 

>> In the case of my dad's system, there were 2 devices, the current

>> one, and an older instance of the same device which existed before

>> it, its good to know that I was able to kill things.

>> 

>> Now I know about this, if I need to reformat my first thing after I

>> get back in is to kill the ghost devices that linger inactive after

>> the fact.

>> 

>> This actually is a good reason to check security on my account if

>> anything else.

>> 

>> Its worth noting that if you need more space and upgrade you won't

>> have to bother with this though even if you do knowing what I had,

>> its worth looking at the site anyway.

>> 

>> I didn't need all those 20 sessions logged in at once, nore did I

>> need the 6 devices 4 of which were ghosts of old linked devices and

>> one which is not on the network.

>> 

>> I guess knowing that I could link that one but even so I will be

>> carefull to check every linked system I service to make sure its all

>> clear of stuff that shouldn't be on it.

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>

> .

 

 

 


Re: new dropbox rules

Arlene
 

Hi how does one see how many devices you have on the dropbox site?  I want to release my old windows 7 box from it. I keep getting notifications saying my drop box is full.  I tried to find my old device so I can release it from the site.  In the old xp days you were able to do it.  Once you got a new computer you can or were easily able to release your old device with no problem.  I did it before with my old win 7 when my xp box was given to  a sighted friend. Nno big deal.  I was able to go to the site and release it. Now I was trying to find where I can go release my old 7 box.  Then I can’t be nagged by drop box saying your box is full when it isn’t.  The only thing I can think of. My old device is still there.  I want to get rid of it from the site.  The way they tell it.  In order to see your devices you have to upgrade your account to a business.  They’re telling me I can’t add new devices to my account because I don’t have enough space.  That’s why I want to go there and get rid of my dead box.  I think its still there.They think I have more then one device.  Thanks.  I’ll just have to go hunt it down.   

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gerardo Corripio
Sent: April 13, 2019 12:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] new dropbox rules

 

Do you guys know if when one goes to, let’s say my Amazon Tablet, and I sign out of its Dropbox, Dropbox automatically deletes the device which one signed out of? I went into via Safari on my iPhone, to Dropbox.com/Security/Devices, and my tablet I don’t seeit there. I only see my Laptop, Iphone and Android, thus if someday I were to get an Ipad,noproblem: justsign out of my Android device,having the 3rd spacefor an Ipad, or other futuregadgetI’dget, with which to use Dropbox with.

Speaking ofwhich, anyone have invite linksfor Dropbox, toget maybe a bit more of Dropbox space? I invited my Dad, but no extra space was given at my end, nor at his! My current Dropbox space is at almost 9GB, wanting to get at least 12GB.

 

                                                                                              Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10

 

De: Shaun Everiss
Enviado: sábado, 13 de abril de 2019 01:07 p. m.
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Asunto: Re: [nvda] new dropbox rules

 

Firstly no it does not effect shared folders.

 

Iff you have machines linked daily, they will stay linked.

 

But if you for any reason need to reformat, or something you will not be

able to link till your linked devices are cleared.

 

If you need to use more than 3 units at one time, and for a basic user

its highly unlikely you should need many units, I have a few suggestions.

 

1.  while a real pain, buying an upgrade to your account may be the

easiest option.

 

2.  you can of course use the website for unlimited devices its all the

linked client deals.

 

I suggest you view your devices, any machines with new profiles on

accounts, reformats, xp and other wise, well the older units will exist

but be inactive.

 

You may need to make other accounts for extra machines if you really

need that.

 

To be honest, if you are really using more then 3 units daily, and don't

want to pay for dropbox storage space, you could buy google storage space.

 

While its quite a lot for over 2tb of storage, a 100-200mb storage space

doesn't cost that much.

 

On icloud its a little more but 200 mb is still only 10 bucks, dropbox

is 9 bucks for 1tb though.

 

To be honest if it is part of your work and or something you really use,

I'd try to stomach all the stuff that went with it and get the full

office 360, that can be 100 or so a year but you get office, the space,

and basically the skype version of your cellphone plan from any previder.

 

There is no reason for anyone to need more than 3 devices, 2 at most.

 

If you really need to sync things and while you will not be able to use

a credit card, it may be easier to buy resilio home pro for 50 bucks,

you will need the space to sync folders but you can supposedly selective

sync the folders and share keys about.

 

How many of the devices are daily uses, and how many devices do you need

synced.

 

If its 5 fine, but I doubt its really that.

 

For saldom used devices, maybe its easier to unlink everything bar the

most used devices your phone and at least 1 pc instance, then simply

transfer about.

 

I have another pc on win7 about, but I don't really need to sync that

with dropbox as such for what I use it for though I guess I can do that

I just have to remember to police my device and session lists thats not

a real issue if you think about it.

 

To be honest, I'd like an ability to have a device if not used in say 6

months to a year to be automatically kulled from the linked device list.

 

In my mind its completely unlikely you will need to use more than 3

units, certainly a laptop and a phone maybe but not both.

 

For me, I don't know if I would bother linking my phone to dropbox for

the reason I really don't need anything of that on my phone to do

anything with.

 

I have 1 unit and 1 only on client.

 

Knowing what dropbox is now, I do think if I actually got into a

business, I'd gofor a 5 user personal or business pack of office linked

things rather than dropbox, or dropbox 1tb maybe I'd do that thats still

quite cheap I guess.

 

 

 

On 13/04/2019 10:53 PM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

> How does this affect shared folders?

> I assume if others share with you and you share with them then its no

> issue.

> So what is the system doing about people like us who used to have xp

> machines in, or our office whose account has 5 machines in use daily

> as well as one phone?

> I read the email mystified about it and wondering if it was in fact

> phishing as there have been no email warnings or anything which seems

> to me to be pretty poor practice.

> So did you find the web site  really navigable with nvda or did you

> need to go to Jaws or maybe do it on an I phone?

> How much is involved in the upgrrade I looked at this some time ago

> and the site is very hard to use and figure it out.

> Brian

> bglists@...

> Sent via blueyonder.

> Please address personal E-mail to:-

> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'

> in the display name field.

> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@...>

> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2019 6:09 AM

> Subject: [nvda] new dropbox rules

>> Hi all.

>> 

>> This is a small warning to everyone that uses dropbox.

>> 

>> From march this year, all basic accounts are limited to 3 devices.

>> 

>> What does that mean?

>> 

>> Nothing, except that dropbox remembers every device and session ever

>> made.

>> 

>> So you reformat your computer or change your account name, or get

>> another computer and don't unlink first, your device becomes a ghost

>> device same with app programs, and brouser sessions.

>> 

>> 1. sign into dropbox.

>> 

>> The easiest way to do this is to login with your own client, click

>> the tray icon and launch dropbox.

>> 

>> Now near the top of the page is a menu called my account hit space on

>> that, scroll down to settings, hit shift space to exit forms mode

>> then hit enter.

>> 

>> Don't move about else things will just not work right.

>> 

>> Now dropbox settings load.

>> 

>> hit control home for the top of the page then h.

>> 

>> 2. select security tab, in the same way, enter forms mode once you

>> scroll down to the list of tabs, and locate security.

>> 

>> get out of forms mode and hit enter.

>> 

>> Next control home again.

>> 

>> then hit t.

>> 

>> 3. The next thing to do is locate every session in the first table

>> which has an end session button it and hit the space bar till they

>> are all gone.

>> 

>> Next locate the device tree which is directly below the brouser

>> treeview.

>> 

>> The first device in the list is your device.

>> 

>> scroll to the end of that list.

>> 

>> Every device you have ever linked including every ghost device linked

>> in the past will exist, I had 6, my dad had 2.

>> 

>> Hit unlink button on all the devices bar the one that says its been

>> modified in the last hour.

>> 

>> Every other device will have a time when it was last valid.

>> 

>> Finally go through the steps of going to my account, then settingss

>> however next select the connected apps view.

>> 

>> Then disconnect every app you don't use and service.

>> 

>> If you need to link devices take note of the devices you want to

>> connect.

>> 

>> A basic user can connect up to 3 devices.

>> 

>> Those can be a computer, a phone and one other device or 3 computers.

>> 

>> You can buy, but to be honest, if you get this warning and are only

>> using 1 device, then you probably have a lot of ghost devices.

>> 

>> I'd also update your password at this time if you have forgotten it

>> if you havn't allready.

>> 

>> I'd also check to see if you know what all the devices you have are,

>> if you find something you don't know, then chances are someone has

>> hacked your account or you linked to a device somewhere else.

>> 

>> In a way this while annoying is good in a way.

>> 

>> I had no idea dropbox kept all devices from all reformats and all

>> times I had changed dropbox.

>> 

>> I had 6 devices, 1 is my device I had.

>> 

>> The next one before that was my old win7 device which I may relink

>> later.

>> 

>> The rest were my win7 and xp devices and their reformats including

>> profile changes etc.

>> 

>> My apps were not needed ones and I clobbered them.

>> 

>> As for my brouser sessions including the current one there were 19

>> others which were still signed in from devices that were no longer

>> active.

>> 

>> In the case of my dad's system, there were 2 devices, the current

>> one, and an older instance of the same device which existed before

>> it, its good to know that I was able to kill things.

>> 

>> Now I know about this, if I need to reformat my first thing after I

>> get back in is to kill the ghost devices that linger inactive after

>> the fact.

>> 

>> This actually is a good reason to check security on my account if

>> anything else.

>> 

>> Its worth noting that if you need more space and upgrade you won't

>> have to bother with this though even if you do knowing what I had,

>> its worth looking at the site anyway.

>> 

>> I didn't need all those 20 sessions logged in at once, nore did I

>> need the 6 devices 4 of which were ghosts of old linked devices and

>> one which is not on the network.

>> 

>> I guess knowing that I could link that one but even so I will be

>> carefull to check every linked system I service to make sure its all

>> clear of stuff that shouldn't be on it.

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>> 

>

> .

 

 

 

 


locked Re: Free captcha solving firefox extension

Inam Uddin
 

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From: marcio via Groups.Io
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2019 12:36 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Free captcha solving firefox extension

 

Wow that's true! I just checked it and haven't found any single link to a Firefox extension download.
However, people seem to have downloaded it successfully.
So folks, come here, tell us what's the secret about it.


Cheers,
Marcio

AKA Starboy


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Em 13/04/2019 14:53, Shaun Everiss disse:

I only see the chrome one there isn't any way to add this to my firefox/waterfox program unless you make an addon file for it and the firefox extention page is not on main page of the site and that page only downloads the chrome extention.

I do wander what is needed to make it official extention or something.

 

 

On 13/04/2019 8:22 PM, Oliver Edholm wrote:

Hi!

You may have seen that a free captcha solving chrome extension was released yesterday, below is a link for firefox as well!

You can download the extension here: http://www.screenreader.ai/download_firefox_captcha_solver.html

I'm a sighted machine learning researcher that recently have caught an eye on the field of web accessibility.

Websites are primarily designed to be interacted with visually which is hard to do if you have a visual impairment. Here I think there's big potential for AI to help and look at the web page visually and then give correct and helpful information to the visually impaired or blind user.

I'm also the creator of the newly created but fairly popular NVDA add-on, "Image Describer", can be found at NVDA add-ons list, (if you're interested in trying out): https://addons.nvda-project.org/index.en.html

I'm looking towards doing much more than this, please contact me or reply to this thread if you want to get help with something accessibility wise or have any kind of feedback.

 

 


Re: How to contact list members off list?

Gene
 

But though Groups.io has this link, I suspect a lot of list serves don't so it is good to know about other possible ways.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2019 3:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to contact list members off list?

Hi, Gene,


It works the same way in thunderbird too. I was just able to tab to the link with your email address.


Rosemarie

On 4/13/2019 1:18 PM, Gene wrote:
Not a bug, its because of what Brian said, that the sender's address isn't in the to field.  But I didn't know what would happen when this was tried because the program might get the information from something else in the message. 
In Windows Live Mail, if you are in a message and you shift tab through the headers, you get to a button that says Contact's name and the name is shown there.  If you right click or use the context menu key, you find options, one of which is to send message.  If you press enter, a message opens with the sender's address in it when working with this list.  So Windows Live Mail gets the information even if the address isn't in the from line.  As I said, how you do this varies from program to program but one thing I've always found to work is the message properties and that's why I discussed it, in case it is needed.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Beaver
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2019 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to contact list members off list?

Gene,


I just tried this and it does  show a reply to sender choice.  However, when on the email in the list and I do this it opens a new email but the to: field is populated with the list email address not the original sender.  Maybe a bug here or something.


Dan Beaver

On 4/13/2019 3:56 PM, Gene wrote:
Thunderbird appears not to have a message properties function.  But you can see the message details by opening message source in the view menu.  If you look down the details, you will find the from information. 
 
But if you can do it the following way instead, it is much faster and easier.
 
Don't be in the message.  Be on the message in the list.
Open the context menu.  You will find all sorts of items regarding working with the message and other items.  You can see if reply to sender works.with mail from various lists.  I don't have Thunderbird associated with any account I use for list mail.
 
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2019 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to contact list members off list?

Whatever the case, if you get into message properties and look at the technical information, the senders address is included in any e-mail program I've looked at this in.  That's on this list as well.  I don't know if this is universal, but I wouldn't be surprised if it is very wide spread.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2019 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to contact list members off list?

Judy,

          I don't think there's a way to do this under Groups.io because the actual sender's address is not a part of the From: field.

          If it were, you could use the standard Reply keyboard shortcut, but doing that for a list message replies to the group, not the originating sender.  I believe the only way to reply directly to sender, without also including the list, with ease in most e-mail clients is hitting that Reply to Sender link at the end of messages or digest entries.  That's why that particular link came into existence in the very early days of Groups.io.

           I've never dealt with an e-mailing list where direct replies to originating senders of single messages didn't involve a workaround of some kind as the From: and Reply-To are usually set to the mailing list address.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.

           ~ Edward Abbey

 

 

-- 
Dan Beaver (KC4DOY)


Re: How to contact list members off list?

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Gene,


It works the same way in thunderbird too. I was just able to tab to the link with your email address.


Rosemarie

On 4/13/2019 1:18 PM, Gene wrote:
Not a bug, its because of what Brian said, that the sender's address isn't in the to field.  But I didn't know what would happen when this was tried because the program might get the information from something else in the message. 
In Windows Live Mail, if you are in a message and you shift tab through the headers, you get to a button that says Contact's name and the name is shown there.  If you right click or use the context menu key, you find options, one of which is to send message.  If you press enter, a message opens with the sender's address in it when working with this list.  So Windows Live Mail gets the information even if the address isn't in the from line.  As I said, how you do this varies from program to program but one thing I've always found to work is the message properties and that's why I discussed it, in case it is needed.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Beaver
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2019 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to contact list members off list?

Gene,


I just tried this and it does  show a reply to sender choice.  However, when on the email in the list and I do this it opens a new email but the to: field is populated with the list email address not the original sender.  Maybe a bug here or something.


Dan Beaver

On 4/13/2019 3:56 PM, Gene wrote:
Thunderbird appears not to have a message properties function.  But you can see the message details by opening message source in the view menu.  If you look down the details, you will find the from information. 
 
But if you can do it the following way instead, it is much faster and easier.
 
Don't be in the message.  Be on the message in the list.
Open the context menu.  You will find all sorts of items regarding working with the message and other items.  You can see if reply to sender works.with mail from various lists.  I don't have Thunderbird associated with any account I use for list mail.
 
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2019 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to contact list members off list?

Whatever the case, if you get into message properties and look at the technical information, the senders address is included in any e-mail program I've looked at this in.  That's on this list as well.  I don't know if this is universal, but I wouldn't be surprised if it is very wide spread.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2019 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to contact list members off list?

Judy,

          I don't think there's a way to do this under Groups.io because the actual sender's address is not a part of the From: field.

          If it were, you could use the standard Reply keyboard shortcut, but doing that for a list message replies to the group, not the originating sender.  I believe the only way to reply directly to sender, without also including the list, with ease in most e-mail clients is hitting that Reply to Sender link at the end of messages or digest entries.  That's why that particular link came into existence in the very early days of Groups.io.

           I've never dealt with an e-mailing list where direct replies to originating senders of single messages didn't involve a workaround of some kind as the From: and Reply-To are usually set to the mailing list address.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.

           ~ Edward Abbey

 

 

-- 
Dan Beaver (KC4DOY)


Re: How to contact list members off list?

Dan Beaver
 

Wheeoooo, thank you, I was starting to wonder if age really was catching up with me. ;)


Dan Beaver

On 4/13/2019 4:17 PM, Brian Vogel wrote:
On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 03:59 PM, Dan Beaver wrote:
I have never seen anything that indicates they are the same.
Thunderbird and Outlook are not the same.  I somehow deleted a pivotal, "and" in my original message, which should have read:

I generally read my Gmail via the web interface, but just tried doing the same through Outlook 2016 and the latest version of Thunderbird.

Having a comma in place of that and definitely makes the sentence say something it is not meant to say, and I apologize for the error.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.

           ~ Edward Abbey

 

 

-- 
Dan Beaver (KC4DOY)


Re: How to contact list members off list?

Gene
 

Actually, maybe I did do something different.  I may have used a message in my sent mail folder to reply since I may not have had messages in this thread in my inbox any longer.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2019 3:10 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to contact list members off list?

I didn't do anything. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2019 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to contact list members off list?

Gene,
I never had seen a link where your signature is, but I saw one in this email.
What you did?

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy
Follow or add me on Facebook

Em 13/04/2019 16:56, Gene disse:
Thunderbird appears not to have a message properties function.  But you can see the message details by opening message source in the view menu.  If you look down the details, you will find the from information. 
 
But if you can do it the following way instead, it is much faster and easier.
 
Don't be in the message.  Be on the message in the list.
Open the context menu.  You will find all sorts of items regarding working with the message and other items.  You can see if reply to sender works.with mail from various lists.  I don't have Thunderbird associated with any account I use for list mail.
 
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2019 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to contact list members off list?

Whatever the case, if you get into message properties and look at the technical information, the senders address is included in any e-mail program I've looked at this in.  That's on this list as well.  I don't know if this is universal, but I wouldn't be surprised if it is very wide spread.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2019 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to contact list members off list?

Judy,

          I don't think there's a way to do this under Groups.io because the actual sender's address is not a part of the From: field.

          If it were, you could use the standard Reply keyboard shortcut, but doing that for a list message replies to the group, not the originating sender.  I believe the only way to reply directly to sender, without also including the list, with ease in most e-mail clients is hitting that Reply to Sender link at the end of messages or digest entries.  That's why that particular link came into existence in the very early days of Groups.io.

           I've never dealt with an e-mailing list where direct replies to originating senders of single messages didn't involve a workaround of some kind as the From: and Reply-To are usually set to the mailing list address.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.

           ~ Edward Abbey

 

 



Re: How to contact list members off list?

Gene
 

Not a bug, its because of what Brian said, that the sender's address isn't in the to field.  But I didn't know what would happen when this was tried because the program might get the information from something else in the message. 
In Windows Live Mail, if you are in a message and you shift tab through the headers, you get to a button that says Contact's name and the name is shown there.  If you right click or use the context menu key, you find options, one of which is to send message.  If you press enter, a message opens with the sender's address in it when working with this list.  So Windows Live Mail gets the information even if the address isn't in the from line.  As I said, how you do this varies from program to program but one thing I've always found to work is the message properties and that's why I discussed it, in case it is needed.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Dan Beaver
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2019 3:05 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to contact list members off list?

Gene,


I just tried this and it does  show a reply to sender choice.  However, when on the email in the list and I do this it opens a new email but the to: field is populated with the list email address not the original sender.  Maybe a bug here or something.


Dan Beaver

On 4/13/2019 3:56 PM, Gene wrote:
Thunderbird appears not to have a message properties function.  But you can see the message details by opening message source in the view menu.  If you look down the details, you will find the from information. 
 
But if you can do it the following way instead, it is much faster and easier.
 
Don't be in the message.  Be on the message in the list.
Open the context menu.  You will find all sorts of items regarding working with the message and other items.  You can see if reply to sender works.with mail from various lists.  I don't have Thunderbird associated with any account I use for list mail.
 
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2019 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to contact list members off list?

Whatever the case, if you get into message properties and look at the technical information, the senders address is included in any e-mail program I've looked at this in.  That's on this list as well.  I don't know if this is universal, but I wouldn't be surprised if it is very wide spread.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2019 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to contact list members off list?

Judy,

          I don't think there's a way to do this under Groups.io because the actual sender's address is not a part of the From: field.

          If it were, you could use the standard Reply keyboard shortcut, but doing that for a list message replies to the group, not the originating sender.  I believe the only way to reply directly to sender, without also including the list, with ease in most e-mail clients is hitting that Reply to Sender link at the end of messages or digest entries.  That's why that particular link came into existence in the very early days of Groups.io.

           I've never dealt with an e-mailing list where direct replies to originating senders of single messages didn't involve a workaround of some kind as the From: and Reply-To are usually set to the mailing list address.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.

           ~ Edward Abbey

 

 

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Re: How to contact list members off list?

 

On Sat, Apr 13, 2019 at 03:59 PM, Dan Beaver wrote:
I have never seen anything that indicates they are the same.
Thunderbird and Outlook are not the same.  I somehow deleted a pivotal, "and" in my original message, which should have read:

I generally read my Gmail via the web interface, but just tried doing the same through Outlook 2016 and the latest version of Thunderbird.

Having a comma in place of that and definitely makes the sentence say something it is not meant to say, and I apologize for the error.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.

           ~ Edward Abbey

 

 


Re: How to contact list members off list?

 

I think you sent this message from another client, don't know. I just got curious :)

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy
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Em 13/04/2019 17:10, Gene disse:

I didn't do anything. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2019 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to contact list members off list?

Gene,
I never had seen a link where your signature is, but I saw one in this email.
What you did?

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy
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Em 13/04/2019 16:56, Gene disse:
Thunderbird appears not to have a message properties function.  But you can see the message details by opening message source in the view menu.  If you look down the details, you will find the from information. 
 
But if you can do it the following way instead, it is much faster and easier.
 
Don't be in the message.  Be on the message in the list.
Open the context menu.  You will find all sorts of items regarding working with the message and other items.  You can see if reply to sender works.with mail from various lists.  I don't have Thunderbird associated with any account I use for list mail.
 
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2019 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to contact list members off list?

Whatever the case, if you get into message properties and look at the technical information, the senders address is included in any e-mail program I've looked at this in.  That's on this list as well.  I don't know if this is universal, but I wouldn't be surprised if it is very wide spread.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2019 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to contact list members off list?

Judy,

          I don't think there's a way to do this under Groups.io because the actual sender's address is not a part of the From: field.

          If it were, you could use the standard Reply keyboard shortcut, but doing that for a list message replies to the group, not the originating sender.  I believe the only way to reply directly to sender, without also including the list, with ease in most e-mail clients is hitting that Reply to Sender link at the end of messages or digest entries.  That's why that particular link came into existence in the very early days of Groups.io.

           I've never dealt with an e-mailing list where direct replies to originating senders of single messages didn't involve a workaround of some kind as the From: and Reply-To are usually set to the mailing list address.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.

           ~ Edward Abbey

 

 




Re: new dropbox rules

 

LOL, my bad!
You're right. This is the only and one address to subscribe.

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy
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Em 13/04/2019 17:10, Gerardo Corripio disse:

It bounced back, thus I think the right address with which to subscribe would be

• Subscribe: chat+subscribe@nvda.groups.io

I think you sent the Email to send to the list once subscribed.

Hope it works!

 

                                                                                              Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10

 

De: marcio via Groups.Io
Enviado: sábado, 13 de abril de 2019 02:38 p. m.
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Asunto: Re: [nvda] new dropbox rules

 

To subscribe to the chat subgroup, send a blank email to
chat@nvda.groups.io


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Em 13/04/2019 14:44, Fernando Apan disse:

Where is the chat subgroup?

Thanks.

 

Fernando Apan.

El 13/04/2019 a las 10:42, marcio via Groups.Io escribió:

I'm quite interesting on knowing more of this one as well.

But, as it's not NVDA-related at all anymore, I'd suggest we move it to the chat subgroup.

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy
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Em 13/04/2019 12:42, Fernando Apan disse:

Good morning.

First of all, thank you so much for that advice. The instructions were very clear. I did it all by my self and it was not difficult at all.

I'm interested in knowing about degoo, what is that APP? Is it accesible with NVDA?

Thanks in advance

 

Fernando Apan.

El 13/04/2019 a las 10:33, Sarah k Alawami escribió:

This is why I'm switching everything over slowly to degoo. Email me in private for an invite link. We could get a conversation started to get the appsmore accessible if they are not already.

Take care

On 12 Apr 2019, at 22:09, Shaun Everiss wrote:

Hi all.

This is a small warning to everyone that uses dropbox.

From march this year, all basic accounts are limited to 3 devices.

What does that mean?

Nothing, except that dropbox remembers every device and session ever made.

So you reformat your computer or change your account name, or get another computer and don't unlink first, your device becomes a ghost device same with app programs, and brouser sessions.

1.  sign into dropbox.

The easiest way to do this is to login with your own client, click the tray icon and launch dropbox.

Now near the top of the page is a menu called my account hit space on that, scroll down to settings, hit shift space to exit forms mode then hit enter.

Don't move about else things will just not work right.

Now dropbox settings load.

hit control home for the top of the page then h.

2.  select security tab, in the same way, enter forms mode once you scroll down to the list of tabs, and locate security.

get out of forms mode and hit enter.

Next control home again.

then hit t.

3.  The next thing to do is locate every session in the first table which has an end session button it and hit the space bar till they are all gone.

Next  locate the device tree which is directly below the brouser treeview.

The first device in the list is your device.

scroll to the end of that list.

Every device you have ever linked including every ghost device linked in the past will exist, I had 6, my dad had 2.

Hit unlink button on all the devices bar the one that says its been modified in the last hour.

Every other device will have a time when it was last valid.

Finally go through the steps of going to my account, then settingss however next select the connected apps view.

Then disconnect every app you don't use and service.

If you need to link devices take note of the devices you want to connect.

A basic user can connect up to 3 devices.

Those can be a computer, a phone and one other device or 3 computers.

You can buy, but to be honest, if you get this warning and are only using 1 device, then you probably have a lot of ghost devices.

I'd also update your password at this time if you have forgotten it if you havn't allready.

I'd also check to see if you know what all the devices you have are, if you find something you don't know, then chances are someone has hacked your account or you linked to a device somewhere else.

In a way this while annoying is good in a way.

I had no idea dropbox kept all devices from all reformats and all times I had changed dropbox.

I had 6 devices, 1 is my device I had.

The next one before that was my old win7 device which I may relink later.

The rest were my win7 and xp devices and their reformats including profile changes etc.

My apps were not needed ones and I clobbered them.

As for my brouser sessions including the current one there were 19 others which were still signed in from devices that were no longer active.

In the case of my dad's system, there were 2 devices, the current one, and an older instance of the same device which existed before it, its good to know that I was able to kill things.

Now I know about this, if I need to reformat my first thing after I get back in is to kill the ghost devices that linger inactive after the fact.

This actually is a good reason to check security on my account if anything else.

Its worth noting that if you need more space and upgrade you won't have to bother with this though even if you do knowing what I had, its worth looking at the site anyway.

I didn't need all those 20 sessions logged in at once, nore did I need the 6 devices 4 of which were ghosts of old linked devices and one which is not on the network.

I guess knowing that I could link that one but even so I will be carefull to check every linked system I service to make sure its all clear of stuff that shouldn't be on it.


 

 

 



Re: How to contact list members off list?

Gene
 

I didn't do anything. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2019 3:01 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to contact list members off list?

Gene,
I never had seen a link where your signature is, but I saw one in this email.
What you did?

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy
Follow or add me on Facebook

Em 13/04/2019 16:56, Gene disse:
Thunderbird appears not to have a message properties function.  But you can see the message details by opening message source in the view menu.  If you look down the details, you will find the from information. 
 
But if you can do it the following way instead, it is much faster and easier.
 
Don't be in the message.  Be on the message in the list.
Open the context menu.  You will find all sorts of items regarding working with the message and other items.  You can see if reply to sender works.with mail from various lists.  I don't have Thunderbird associated with any account I use for list mail.
 
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2019 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to contact list members off list?

Whatever the case, if you get into message properties and look at the technical information, the senders address is included in any e-mail program I've looked at this in.  That's on this list as well.  I don't know if this is universal, but I wouldn't be surprised if it is very wide spread.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2019 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to contact list members off list?

Judy,

          I don't think there's a way to do this under Groups.io because the actual sender's address is not a part of the From: field.

          If it were, you could use the standard Reply keyboard shortcut, but doing that for a list message replies to the group, not the originating sender.  I believe the only way to reply directly to sender, without also including the list, with ease in most e-mail clients is hitting that Reply to Sender link at the end of messages or digest entries.  That's why that particular link came into existence in the very early days of Groups.io.

           I've never dealt with an e-mailing list where direct replies to originating senders of single messages didn't involve a workaround of some kind as the From: and Reply-To are usually set to the mailing list address.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.

           ~ Edward Abbey

 

 



Re: new dropbox rules

Gerardo Corripio
 

It bounced back, thus I think the right address with which to subscribe would be

• Subscribe: chat+subscribe@nvda.groups.io

I think you sent the Email to send to the list once subscribed.

Hope it works!

 

                                                                                              Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10

 

De: marcio via Groups.Io
Enviado: sábado, 13 de abril de 2019 02:38 p. m.
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Asunto: Re: [nvda] new dropbox rules

 

To subscribe to the chat subgroup, send a blank email to
chat@nvda.groups.io


Cheers,
Marcio

AKA Starboy


Follow or add me on Facebook

Em 13/04/2019 14:44, Fernando Apan disse:

Where is the chat subgroup?

Thanks.

 

Fernando Apan.

El 13/04/2019 a las 10:42, marcio via Groups.Io escribió:

I'm quite interesting on knowing more of this one as well.

But, as it's not NVDA-related at all anymore, I'd suggest we move it to the chat subgroup.

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy
Follow or add me on Facebook

Em 13/04/2019 12:42, Fernando Apan disse:

Good morning.

First of all, thank you so much for that advice. The instructions were very clear. I did it all by my self and it was not difficult at all.

I'm interested in knowing about degoo, what is that APP? Is it accesible with NVDA?

Thanks in advance

 

Fernando Apan.

El 13/04/2019 a las 10:33, Sarah k Alawami escribió:

This is why I'm switching everything over slowly to degoo. Email me in private for an invite link. We could get a conversation started to get the appsmore accessible if they are not already.

Take care

On 12 Apr 2019, at 22:09, Shaun Everiss wrote:

Hi all.

This is a small warning to everyone that uses dropbox.

From march this year, all basic accounts are limited to 3 devices.

What does that mean?

Nothing, except that dropbox remembers every device and session ever made.

So you reformat your computer or change your account name, or get another computer and don't unlink first, your device becomes a ghost device same with app programs, and brouser sessions.

1.  sign into dropbox.

The easiest way to do this is to login with your own client, click the tray icon and launch dropbox.

Now near the top of the page is a menu called my account hit space on that, scroll down to settings, hit shift space to exit forms mode then hit enter.

Don't move about else things will just not work right.

Now dropbox settings load.

hit control home for the top of the page then h.

2.  select security tab, in the same way, enter forms mode once you scroll down to the list of tabs, and locate security.

get out of forms mode and hit enter.

Next control home again.

then hit t.

3.  The next thing to do is locate every session in the first table which has an end session button it and hit the space bar till they are all gone.

Next  locate the device tree which is directly below the brouser treeview.

The first device in the list is your device.

scroll to the end of that list.

Every device you have ever linked including every ghost device linked in the past will exist, I had 6, my dad had 2.

Hit unlink button on all the devices bar the one that says its been modified in the last hour.

Every other device will have a time when it was last valid.

Finally go through the steps of going to my account, then settingss however next select the connected apps view.

Then disconnect every app you don't use and service.

If you need to link devices take note of the devices you want to connect.

A basic user can connect up to 3 devices.

Those can be a computer, a phone and one other device or 3 computers.

You can buy, but to be honest, if you get this warning and are only using 1 device, then you probably have a lot of ghost devices.

I'd also update your password at this time if you have forgotten it if you havn't allready.

I'd also check to see if you know what all the devices you have are, if you find something you don't know, then chances are someone has hacked your account or you linked to a device somewhere else.

In a way this while annoying is good in a way.

I had no idea dropbox kept all devices from all reformats and all times I had changed dropbox.

I had 6 devices, 1 is my device I had.

The next one before that was my old win7 device which I may relink later.

The rest were my win7 and xp devices and their reformats including profile changes etc.

My apps were not needed ones and I clobbered them.

As for my brouser sessions including the current one there were 19 others which were still signed in from devices that were no longer active.

In the case of my dad's system, there were 2 devices, the current one, and an older instance of the same device which existed before it, its good to know that I was able to kill things.

Now I know about this, if I need to reformat my first thing after I get back in is to kill the ghost devices that linger inactive after the fact.

This actually is a good reason to check security on my account if anything else.

Its worth noting that if you need more space and upgrade you won't have to bother with this though even if you do knowing what I had, its worth looking at the site anyway.

I didn't need all those 20 sessions logged in at once, nore did I need the 6 devices 4 of which were ghosts of old linked devices and one which is not on the network.

I guess knowing that I could link that one but even so I will be carefull to check every linked system I service to make sure its all clear of stuff that shouldn't be on it.


 

 

 


Re: Adding Time-Stop Marks to Audio Tracks

ely.r@...
 

Karen,

What app are you using to read the audio book. Most that I have used have their own bookmarking feature.

Rick

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Kerryn Gunness via Groups.Io
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2019 3:58 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] software to mark books

 

hi guys

 

can you recommend a software for windows to bookmark audio books?

by bookmark, i mean to pause the track in certain area, then bookmark it there, then resume afterwards another time

this is using NVDA

thanks


Re: How to contact list members off list?

Dan Beaver
 

Gene,


I just tried this and it does  show a reply to sender choice.  However, when on the email in the list and I do this it opens a new email but the to: field is populated with the list email address not the original sender.  Maybe a bug here or something.


Dan Beaver

On 4/13/2019 3:56 PM, Gene wrote:
Thunderbird appears not to have a message properties function.  But you can see the message details by opening message source in the view menu.  If you look down the details, you will find the from information. 
 
But if you can do it the following way instead, it is much faster and easier.
 
Don't be in the message.  Be on the message in the list.
Open the context menu.  You will find all sorts of items regarding working with the message and other items.  You can see if reply to sender works.with mail from various lists.  I don't have Thunderbird associated with any account I use for list mail.
 
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2019 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to contact list members off list?

Whatever the case, if you get into message properties and look at the technical information, the senders address is included in any e-mail program I've looked at this in.  That's on this list as well.  I don't know if this is universal, but I wouldn't be surprised if it is very wide spread.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2019 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to contact list members off list?

Judy,

          I don't think there's a way to do this under Groups.io because the actual sender's address is not a part of the From: field.

          If it were, you could use the standard Reply keyboard shortcut, but doing that for a list message replies to the group, not the originating sender.  I believe the only way to reply directly to sender, without also including the list, with ease in most e-mail clients is hitting that Reply to Sender link at the end of messages or digest entries.  That's why that particular link came into existence in the very early days of Groups.io.

           I've never dealt with an e-mailing list where direct replies to originating senders of single messages didn't involve a workaround of some kind as the From: and Reply-To are usually set to the mailing list address.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.

           ~ Edward Abbey

 

 

-- 
Dan Beaver (KC4DOY)


Re: How to contact list members off list?

 

Gene,
I never had seen a link where your signature is, but I saw one in this email.
What you did?

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy
Follow or add me on Facebook

Em 13/04/2019 16:56, Gene disse:

Thunderbird appears not to have a message properties function.  But you can see the message details by opening message source in the view menu.  If you look down the details, you will find the from information. 
 
But if you can do it the following way instead, it is much faster and easier.
 
Don't be in the message.  Be on the message in the list.
Open the context menu.  You will find all sorts of items regarding working with the message and other items.  You can see if reply to sender works.with mail from various lists.  I don't have Thunderbird associated with any account I use for list mail.
 
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2019 2:41 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to contact list members off list?

Whatever the case, if you get into message properties and look at the technical information, the senders address is included in any e-mail program I've looked at this in.  That's on this list as well.  I don't know if this is universal, but I wouldn't be surprised if it is very wide spread.
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Saturday, April 13, 2019 2:23 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] How to contact list members off list?

Judy,

          I don't think there's a way to do this under Groups.io because the actual sender's address is not a part of the From: field.

          If it were, you could use the standard Reply keyboard shortcut, but doing that for a list message replies to the group, not the originating sender.  I believe the only way to reply directly to sender, without also including the list, with ease in most e-mail clients is hitting that Reply to Sender link at the end of messages or digest entries.  That's why that particular link came into existence in the very early days of Groups.io.

           I've never dealt with an e-mailing list where direct replies to originating senders of single messages didn't involve a workaround of some kind as the From: and Reply-To are usually set to the mailing list address.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.

           ~ Edward Abbey