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Re: is there any voice similar or close to the ETI eloquence english voice

Antony Stone
 

What's the difference between purchasing it and buying it?

Antony.

On Monday 15 April 2019 at 19:47:17, Cecelia Rodriguez wrote:

You don’t have to purchase eloquence you could buy it from blind help.net.

On Apr 15, 2019, at 3:37 AM, Mohd. Ahtesham Shaikh
<mohd.ahtesham@...> wrote:

Hi friends,
I was wondering if some one has found some similar voice to ETI
Eloquence voice so that we do not need to purchase it.
It need not be exactly same but some what close to it in terms of
clarity.

Regards,

Ahtesham
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was challenged by Her Majesty's Customs and Excise in court.

The question which had to be answered was what criteria should be used to
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Re: nvda not reading letters in excel cell when using f2 to edit the cell contents

Mohd. Ahtesham Shaikh
 

NVDA 2019.1
Office 1/3
Win 8.1



On Mon, 15 Apr 2019 at 6:26 PM, Andre Fisher <andrefisher729@...> wrote:
It was a bug with NVDA and versions of Excel 2016. However, 2019.1 provided a fix for the issue.

Help: Using Newest Version of NVDA and Excel 2007 crashing

Steve Hoad
 

Hello: Is it possible that the latest version of NVDA doesn't play
well with Excel 2007? I have been using Windows 10 with these
programs successfully in a previous version of NVDA but now, when I
open Excel it crashes almost immediately.
As an alternative, can I easily roll back to NVDA in a 2018 version
that Excel worked well with?

Any help or information would be appreciated. Thanks,


--
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Re: 2019.1.1 released

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, Quentin,


I just downloaded it and it's working great for me.


Rosemarie



On 4/15/2019 5:13 AM, Quentin Christensen wrote:
Hi everyone,

We've released NVDA 2019.1.1.

This release addresses some issues including a crash and formulas not reporting in Excel2007, a crash in Google Chrome, and an issue when copying settings to secure screens.


If check for updates is enabled, NVDA itself should find the update in the next day or so and offer it to you.

Kind regards

Quentin
Hemingway Editor - Command for Colors with NVDA

David Russell
 

Hi NVDA Group,

I am using the Hemingway Editor application, which is an editing tool
for writers.
Output is given in color schemes, and wonder what is the command to
turn on and off colors with NVDA?

I looked online but could not find the command for this. Thanks in advance.

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Re: is there any voice similar or close to the ETI eloquence english voice

Michael Munn
 

You can always uptain Dectalk from Grossgane.com. 
I will provide link in a separate email.
Thanks 
Best Regards 
Michael Munn 

Michael Munn
Member: Virginia Association of Blind students
 National Federation of the Blind of   Virginia   www.nfbv.org
Member: Maryland Association of Blind Students
National Federation of the Blind of  Maryland www.nfbmd.org
Students of: Hadley Institute of the Blind




On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 2:09 PM Cecelia Rodriguez <cessbraille@...> wrote:
You don’t have to purchase eloquence you could buy it from blind help.net.
> On Apr 15, 2019, at 3:37 AM, Mohd. Ahtesham Shaikh <mohd.ahtesham@...> wrote:
>
> Hi friends,
> I was wondering if some one has found some similar voice to ETI
> Eloquence voice so that we do not need to purchase it.
> It need not be exactly same but some what close to it in terms of clarity.
>
> Regards,
>
> Ahtesham
>
>
>



Re: is there any voice similar or close to the ETI eloquence english voice

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

But isn't that an illegal site?

On 4/15/2019 10:47 AM, Cecelia Rodriguez wrote:
You don’t have to purchase eloquence you could buy it from blind help.net.
On Apr 15, 2019, at 3:37 AM, Mohd. Ahtesham Shaikh <mohd.ahtesham@...> wrote:

Hi friends,
I was wondering if some one has found some similar voice to ETI
Eloquence voice so that we do not need to purchase it.
It need not be exactly same but some what close to it in terms of clarity.

Regards,

Ahtesham
Re: is there any voice similar or close to the ETI eloquence english voice

Cecelia Rodriguez <cessbraille@...>
 

You don’t have to purchase eloquence you could buy it from blind help.net.

On Apr 15, 2019, at 3:37 AM, Mohd. Ahtesham Shaikh <mohd.ahtesham@...> wrote:

Hi friends,
I was wondering if some one has found some similar voice to ETI
Eloquence voice so that we do not need to purchase it.
It need not be exactly same but some what close to it in terms of clarity.

Regards,

Ahtesham
Re: Cannot open nvaccess.org in Iran

zahra
 

403 error is for the websites that made sanction against Iran, not for
the websites that are blocked in iran.

On 4/15/19, Mohammadreza Rashad <mohammadreza5712@...> wrote:
Dear Gene,
According to whois.com lookup, nvaccess.org hosted by Synergy Wholesales
pty. Ltd. I searched for and could open the site without 403 error.

***
Best Wishes,
Mohammadreza Rashad
sent by Nokia 8

On Mon, Apr 15, 2019, 5:09 PM Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:

I doubt that the NVDA site has been blocked. it is probably on a host,
but I'm not sure what the correct word is, that has been blocked so
nothing
on that host can be accessed. for example, a lot of people use Go Daddy
to
host sites. If Go Daddy were blocked, you couldn't access The NVDA site.
Others with more technical knowledge can tell the list how you find out
who
hosts a web site and we may get information about who the host is for the
NVDA site.

Gene
----- Original Message -----
*From:* Mohammadreza Rashad <mohammadreza5712@...>
*Sent:* Monday, April 15, 2019 5:02 AM
*To:* nvda <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Cannot open nvaccess.org in Iran

Dear Antony,
This issue exists on more than one internet provider. In Iran, we have a
governmental organization, called "Working Group on Identifying Criminal
Content", who is responsible for such actions. I asked them to unblock
nvaccess.org, and they told me the above-mentioned reply.

***
Best Wishes,
Mohammadreza Rashad
sent by Nokia 8

On Mon, Apr 15, 2019, 2:10 PM Antony Stone <
antony.stone@...> wrote:

Who did you contact? Your connectivity provider, or someone else?

Antony.

On Monday 15 April 2019 at 11:37:37, Mohammadreza Rashad wrote:

Dear Rosemarie, I contacted, and ask them, and they told me that they
have
not blocked nvaccess.org.

***
Best Wishes,
Mohammadreza Rashad
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Re: Cannot open nvaccess.org in Iran

Sarah k Alawami
 

I actually dunno the whois command for windows. If you have the sub linux system on your windows machine you can use the whois command along with other commands.

On 15 Apr 2019, at 10:04, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:

Sarah,
In which terminal one should write it?
I assume it's not in the CMD, because if I type in it there, I get the dreaded "not a valid command" message.

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy
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Em 15/04/2019 13:01, Sarah k Alawami disse:

In the terminal write

whois nvaccess.org

I could never get the address right so do not use that unless you are sure. please google for the correct one but only put the domain in for the whois and look through all of the stuff for nv-access

never mind. I'm getting a domain not found here. is the whois data base only for the us domains like mine?

On 15 Apr 2019, at 5:39, Gene wrote:

I doubt that the NVDA site has been blocked.  it is probably on a host, but I'm not sure what the correct word is, that has been blocked so nothing on that host can be accessed.  for example, a lot of people use Go Daddy to host sites.  If Go Daddy were blocked, you couldn't access The NVDA site.  Others with more technical knowledge can tell the list how you find out who hosts a web site and we may get information about who the host is for the NVDA site.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 5:02 AM
To: nvda
Subject: Re: [nvda] Cannot open nvaccess.org in Iran

Dear Antony,
This issue exists on more than one internet provider. In Iran, we have a governmental organization, called "Working Group on Identifying Criminal Content", who is responsible for such actions. I asked them to unblock nvaccess.org, and they told me the above-mentioned reply.

   ***
Best Wishes,
     Mohammadreza Rashad
   sent by Nokia 8


On Mon, Apr 15, 2019, 2:10 PM Antony Stone <antony.stone@...> wrote:
Who did you contact?  Your connectivity provider, or someone else?

Antony.

On Monday 15 April 2019 at 11:37:37, Mohammadreza Rashad wrote:

> Dear Rosemarie, I contacted, and ask them, and they told me that they have
> not blocked nvaccess.org.
>
>    ***
> Best Wishes,
>      Mohammadreza Rashad

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Re: NVDA and Outlook 2016

Pascal Lambert <coccinelle86@...>
 

Thanks Brian.  I will.  You are a great help as always.

Blessings

Pascal

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 10:03 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Outlook 2016

 

Pascal,

            Have a look at the archive search results from this search:  https://nvda.groups.io/g/nvda/search?ev=false&q=%22Outlook+2016%22&ct=1

            There have been 123 topics (including yours) regarding Outlook 2016, and each topic in that search is presented as a link, so the results can be easily and quickly scanned through the NVDA elements list.

             If your questions aren't already answered, then ask the new ones.
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Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.

           ~ Edward Abbey

 

 
Re: Cannot open nvaccess.org in Iran

Mohamed
 

I think she's using Mac OS, which has a native whois client in the terminal. Windows doesn't have one by default.

On 4/15/2019 1:04 PM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:
Sarah,
In which terminal one should write it?
I assume it's not in the CMD, because if I type in it there, I get the dreaded "not a valid command" message.

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy
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Em 15/04/2019 13:01, Sarah k Alawami disse:

In the terminal write

whois nvaccess.org

I could never get the address right so do not use that unless you are sure. please google for the correct one but only put the domain in for the whois and look through all of the stuff for nv-access

never mind. I'm getting a domain not found here. is the whois data base only for the us domains like mine?

On 15 Apr 2019, at 5:39, Gene wrote:

I doubt that the NVDA site has been blocked.  it is probably on a host, but I'm not sure what the correct word is, that has been blocked so nothing on that host can be accessed.  for example, a lot of people use Go Daddy to host sites.  If Go Daddy were blocked, you couldn't access The NVDA site.  Others with more technical knowledge can tell the list how you find out who hosts a web site and we may get information about who the host is for the NVDA site.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 5:02 AM
To: nvda
Subject: Re: [nvda] Cannot open nvaccess.org in Iran

Dear Antony,
This issue exists on more than one internet provider. In Iran, we have a governmental organization, called "Working Group on Identifying Criminal Content", who is responsible for such actions. I asked them to unblock nvaccess.org, and they told me the above-mentioned reply.

   ***
Best Wishes,
     Mohammadreza Rashad
   sent by Nokia 8


On Mon, Apr 15, 2019, 2:10 PM Antony Stone <antony.stone@...> wrote:
Who did you contact?  Your connectivity provider, or someone else?

Antony.

On Monday 15 April 2019 at 11:37:37, Mohammadreza Rashad wrote:

> Dear Rosemarie, I contacted, and ask them, and they told me that they have
> not blocked nvaccess.org.
>
>    ***
> Best Wishes,
>      Mohammadreza Rashad

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Re: Cannot open nvaccess.org in Iran

Marcio
 

Sarah,
In which terminal one should write it?
I assume it's not in the CMD, because if I type in it there, I get the dreaded "not a valid command" message.

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy
Follow or add me on Facebook

Em 15/04/2019 13:01, Sarah k Alawami disse:

In the terminal write

whois nvaccess.org

I could never get the address right so do not use that unless you are sure. please google for the correct one but only put the domain in for the whois and look through all of the stuff for nv-access

never mind. I'm getting a domain not found here. is the whois data base only for the us domains like mine?

On 15 Apr 2019, at 5:39, Gene wrote:

I doubt that the NVDA site has been blocked.  it is probably on a host, but I'm not sure what the correct word is, that has been blocked so nothing on that host can be accessed.  for example, a lot of people use Go Daddy to host sites.  If Go Daddy were blocked, you couldn't access The NVDA site.  Others with more technical knowledge can tell the list how you find out who hosts a web site and we may get information about who the host is for the NVDA site.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 5:02 AM
To: nvda
Subject: Re: [nvda] Cannot open nvaccess.org in Iran

Dear Antony,
This issue exists on more than one internet provider. In Iran, we have a governmental organization, called "Working Group on Identifying Criminal Content", who is responsible for such actions. I asked them to unblock nvaccess.org, and they told me the above-mentioned reply.

   ***
Best Wishes,
     Mohammadreza Rashad
   sent by Nokia 8


On Mon, Apr 15, 2019, 2:10 PM Antony Stone <antony.stone@...> wrote:
Who did you contact?  Your connectivity provider, or someone else?

Antony.

On Monday 15 April 2019 at 11:37:37, Mohammadreza Rashad wrote:

> Dear Rosemarie, I contacted, and ask them, and they told me that they have
> not blocked nvaccess.org.
>
>    ***
> Best Wishes,
>      Mohammadreza Rashad

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locked Re: request for participation in a study

Brian Vogel
 

Hello All,

          I notice in the original call for subjects by Enes Saribaş, his academic e-mail address did not automatically show up as a click-through mailto link, so I will repeat that address here so that it will.

          All communication regarding participation in this study should be made directly to Mr. Saribaş at the address es777@....

          This topic is now locked per advance agreement regarding its posting.

 
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locked request for participation in a study

enes sarıbaş
 
Edited

Note that the below message was posted after obtaining permision from the list owner, Nimer.

Hi all,
As part of my masters degree in Linguistics at the University of Cambridge, I am conducting  research on how blind and sighted adults understand and interpret language. I am looking for congenitally blind or early blind adults, on the one hand, and sighted adults on the other, aged between 18 and 45, who do not have any additional disabilities, and who grew up in an English speaking country. The survey will take between 40-45 minutes. Participants in the survey will be entered into a draw to win one of four £25.00 amazon.co.uk gift cards. Anyone who wants to participate in the survey please e-mail me at my academic email address (es777@...), and I will send out the survey.

Also per the request of Nimer, the list owner, please do not respond to this thread.  And only contact me with any questions, comments, or requests on the given address.

Best,

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Re: Cannot open nvaccess.org in Iran

Sarah k Alawami
 

In the terminal write

whois nvaccess.org

I could never get the address right so do not use that unless you are sure. please google for the correct one but only put the domain in for the whois and look through all of the stuff for nv-access

never mind. I'm getting a domain not found here. is the whois data base only for the us domains like mine?

On 15 Apr 2019, at 5:39, Gene wrote:

I doubt that the NVDA site has been blocked.  it is probably on a host, but I'm not sure what the correct word is, that has been blocked so nothing on that host can be accessed.  for example, a lot of people use Go Daddy to host sites.  If Go Daddy were blocked, you couldn't access The NVDA site.  Others with more technical knowledge can tell the list how you find out who hosts a web site and we may get information about who the host is for the NVDA site.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 5:02 AM
To: nvda
Subject: Re: [nvda] Cannot open nvaccess.org in Iran

Dear Antony,
This issue exists on more than one internet provider. In Iran, we have a governmental organization, called "Working Group on Identifying Criminal Content", who is responsible for such actions. I asked them to unblock nvaccess.org, and they told me the above-mentioned reply.

   ***
Best Wishes,
     Mohammadreza Rashad
   sent by Nokia 8


On Mon, Apr 15, 2019, 2:10 PM Antony Stone <antony.stone@...> wrote:
Who did you contact?  Your connectivity provider, or someone else?

Antony.

On Monday 15 April 2019 at 11:37:37, Mohammadreza Rashad wrote:

> Dear Rosemarie, I contacted, and ask them, and they told me that they have
> not blocked nvaccess.org.
>
>    ***
> Best Wishes,
>      Mohammadreza Rashad

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Re: logging into telegram with nvda?

Sarah k Alawami
 

Yes. I have tried it on safari on the mac and chrome for the mac. Both work beautifully. I can't recall if I said I tried it on chrome to on windows but if I didn't, I did. I want to use firefox as that is my default browser. Iv'e nixed edge, at least until the new one comes out for public use.

On chrome and firefox produce the same results. I enter phone number, click next, try to hit ok to receive the prompt in my telegram to enter the code, then it will just work after that. I can't click the ok, not even punch it with the mouse button, or nvda's left click, or even narrator.

On 15 Apr 2019, at 1:10, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

Have you tried it on other browsers at all?
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Sarah k Alawami" <marrie12@...>
To: "Nvda List" <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, April 14, 2019 10:14 PM
Subject: [nvda] logging into telegram with nvda?

I'm BCcing this to the nvda chat group just in case but here are the
steps I'm taking

1. Launch chrome. I have the same trouble with Firefox
2. Go to web.telegram.org
3. Put your phone number in.
4. click next
5. Try to click the "OK button. I cannot do this, yet other people I
know have done this successfully. I've tried
* 1 object navigation
* 2 screen review
* 3 document review
* 4 routing and left clicking with the result that nvda says "there is
no object here" or "object has no location"
* 5. Left clicking with the mouse after trying to rout
* 6. Trying to use narrator with the result that that dialogue never
reads.

So does anyone have any tips here? I cannot do a video as my phone
number will be revealed and I don't want that.

Thanks.
Blessings and happy Sunday
Re: is there any voice similar or close to the ETI eloquence english voice

Arun <arun.gaalla@...>
 

I like mark from window core voices...

Arun

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of zahra
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 7:10 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] is there any voice similar or close to the ETI eloquence english voice

its one of the voices in espeak!
i really love it, dont think for using other voices, but just wish to download other free voices for testing, but not for my daily use.

On 4/15/19, Arun <arun.gaalla@...> wrote:
Where did you get voice ivan3

Arun

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
zahra
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 2:47 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] is there any voice similar or close to the ETI
eloquence english voice

hi.
i believe that Iven3 speaks very beautiful, understandable and natural.
i love it very much and its very easy to understand for me.

On 4/15/19, Mohd. Ahtesham Shaikh <mohd.ahtesham@...> wrote:
Hi friends,
I was wondering if some one has found some similar voice to ETI
Eloquence voice so that we do not need to purchase it.
It need not be exactly same but some what close to it in terms of
clarity.

Regards,

Ahtesham




--
By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali








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By God,
were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali
Re: Cannot open nvaccess.org in Iran

Mohammadreza Rashad
 

Dear Gene,
According to whois.com lookup, nvaccess.org hosted by Synergy Wholesales pty. Ltd. I searched for and could open the site without 403 error.

   ***
Best Wishes,
     Mohammadreza Rashad
   sent by Nokia 8


On Mon, Apr 15, 2019, 5:09 PM Gene <gsasner@...> wrote:
I doubt that the NVDA site has been blocked.  it is probably on a host, but I'm not sure what the correct word is, that has been blocked so nothing on that host can be accessed.  for example, a lot of people use Go Daddy to host sites.  If Go Daddy were blocked, you couldn't access The NVDA site.  Others with more technical knowledge can tell the list how you find out who hosts a web site and we may get information about who the host is for the NVDA site.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 5:02 AM
To: nvda
Subject: Re: [nvda] Cannot open nvaccess.org in Iran

Dear Antony,
This issue exists on more than one internet provider. In Iran, we have a governmental organization, called "Working Group on Identifying Criminal Content", who is responsible for such actions. I asked them to unblock nvaccess.org, and they told me the above-mentioned reply.

   ***
Best Wishes,
     Mohammadreza Rashad
   sent by Nokia 8


On Mon, Apr 15, 2019, 2:10 PM Antony Stone <antony.stone@...> wrote:
Who did you contact?  Your connectivity provider, or someone else?

Antony.

On Monday 15 April 2019 at 11:37:37, Mohammadreza Rashad wrote:

> Dear Rosemarie, I contacted, and ask them, and they told me that they have
> not blocked nvaccess.org.
>
>    ***
> Best Wishes,
>      Mohammadreza Rashad

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Re: 2019.1.1 released

Laurie Mehta
 

I had that experience when updating to 2019.1 on my Win7 laptop. Interesting...
-LM

--------------------------------------------

On Mon, 4/15/19, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote:
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2019.1.1 released
After a long absence this release gave me the
windows error again when it
tried to reboot that the log file could
not be written to and then it wrote
a small log to the other log file 
that is in the working directory. I had
to clear the error then reboot and then
its fine again. I wish we could get
to the bottom of this, but I fancy its
harrdare or software affected and
hence a pig to debug.
Anyway its working now again.
Brian

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