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Re: NVDA With Excel

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See my post about this version of Word with recent nvdas. on the previous thread. I find this the best way around, as of course anything pre 2010 in office is considered end of life now.
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Howard Traxler" <howard@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 7:39 PM
Subject: [nvda] NVDA With Excel


Hello folks,


Using Windows 10 pro 64, NVDA 19.1, MS Office 2003/Excel.


I'm having trouble running Excel with NVDA. With NVDA running, Excel will only flash and stop; reverting to the previous screen. If Excel is already running, NVDA will not start. Excel runs properly with JAWS demo; runs, but not usably with Narrator.


I have used this combination (NVDA and Excel) successfully for many months. Perhaps I should go back to an earlier version of NVDA. See my note (below) posted on another list.


Anybody, thanks for ideas.


Howard


Trying different screen readers:
1. With NVDA, I get the results I described in my message above.
2. With Narrator, Pressing enter on the desktop shortcut, I get two or three clicks and revert to the previously running application. Pressing the spacebar will start Excel, but no useful information is read.
3. With JAWS (40 minute demo), Excel comes up and allows normal functioning: data entry, reading cells, opening and saving file.

It appears to me that this is caused by an interaction with the screen readers.

I probably could get done what I need to in less than forty minutes but it sure is inconvenient. Maybe something to ask the NVAccess folks.



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Re: Help: Using Newest Version of NVDA and Excel 2007 crashing

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As an aside, I have issues with the current nvda in word 2003, but what I have done is to keep an older nvda as a portable version and am happy to switch to that when its needed.
I use a batch file to shut one and open the other at will.
Its pretty simple to do in such situations.
I know I'm a dinosaur!
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Steve Hoad" <mainefun40@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 11:59 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Help: Using Newest Version of NVDA and Excel 2007 crashing


Fixed: I began wondering if my copy of NVDA had somehow become
corrupted. I reloaded the program and it seems to have fixed the
problem.
Steve

On 4/15/19, Steve Hoad <mainefun40@...> wrote:
Hello: Is it possible that the latest version of NVDA doesn't play
well with Excel 2007? I have been using Windows 10 with these
programs successfully in a previous version of NVDA but now, when I
open Excel it crashes almost immediately.
As an alternative, can I easily roll back to NVDA in a 2018 version
that Excel worked well with?

Any help or information would be appreciated. Thanks,


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Re: 2019.1.1 released

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Yes this is win 7 as well. I have a suspicion that in fact the error occurs due to all the failed to removed messages at update time hanging onto the current log file and hence when the new copy starts the old log is locked rather than renamed to old as it should be. Whether the routines in 7 are slower or its as I say something in the hardware or software that compounds it, I have no idea, but only a handful of people have the issue and its not every time either, and it proved impossible to duplicate by any developer back several issues ago, It all started when renaming folderrs so the correct support files were used was brought in by Mick to solve another issue.
Its just one of those odd things.
Brian

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From: "Laurie Mehta via Groups.Io" <lauriemehta@...>
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Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 4:22 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2019.1.1 released


I had that experience when updating to 2019.1 on my Win7 laptop. Interesting...
-LM

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On Mon, 4/15/19, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote:
Subject: Re: [nvda] 2019.1.1 released
After a long absence this release gave me the
windows error again when it
tried to reboot that the log file could
not be written to and then it wrote
a small log to the other log file
that is in the working directory. I had
to clear the error then reboot and then
its fine again. I wish we could get
to the bottom of this, but I fancy its
harrdare or software affected and
hence a pig to debug.
Anyway its working now again.
Brian

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Re: Inconsistency with NVDA+t on desktop

 

hi.
yes.
i confirm this problem in nvda 2017.2 (my favorite version) on windows xp.
i dont understand whats the problem.
and i thought that i am the only one who has this issue!
in this case, i cant do anything or open my computer and desktop programs.
thanks for reporting and God bless you!

On 4/16/19, Felix G. <constantlyvariable@...> wrote:
Hi folks,
has anyone else observed that sometimes NVDA reports the title of the
desktop as "Explorer" whereas at other times it states "Program
Manager?"
As an aside, I find that "Explorer" is often announced even when it is
inappropriate as something completely different has focus.
Best,
Felix



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Re: Hemingway Editor - Command for Colors with NVDA

Mallard <mallard@...>
 

Hello,


You dind colors toggle under Preferences, Settings, Document Formatting. Once there, tab six times and you're on the option you need. Check the box, and you'll get colour announcement.


hth, Ciao,

Ollie

Il 15/04/2019 20:16, David Russell ha scritto:
Hi NVDA Group,

I am using the Hemingway Editor application, which is an editing tool
for writers.
Output is given in color schemes, and wonder what is the command to
turn on and off colors with NVDA?

I looked online but could not find the command for this. Thanks in advance.


Inconsistency with NVDA+t on desktop

Felix G.
 

Hi folks,
has anyone else observed that sometimes NVDA reports the title of the
desktop as "Explorer" whereas at other times it states "Program
Manager?"
As an aside, I find that "Explorer" is often announced even when it is
inappropriate as something completely different has focus.
Best,
Felix


Re: is there any voice similar or close to the ETI eloquence english voice

Curtis Delzer
 

sure I have dec_access32 which works fine with NVDA.

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On 4/15/2019 11:55 AM, Abbie Taylor wrote:

The only one I can think of is Deck Talk, but I don't know if x'savailable anymore. I'm sorry I can't be more helpful. 
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Re: Blog

 

Wordpress itself is perfectly accessible. Plugins, however, might not be totally accessible.

 

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Ralph Boersema
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 5:31 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Blog

 

Hi Friends,

 

I am contemplating starting a blog and have a tech who can help me with hosting and getting started. Any suggestions for which software works well with NVDA? My tech is suggesting WordPress, but he is not particularly familiar with NVDA. Have you all found WordPress to be fully accessible using NVDA?

 

Warmly,

Ralph


Re: training material

Robert Doc Wright godfearer
 

I have it thanks.

BTW, has there been any consideration of offering your braille edition in a digital format?

 

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From: Quentin Christensen
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 6:42 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] training material

 

Hi Robert,

 

You should have got an email straight away, although some email servers might put it in spam.

 

If you go to https://www.nvaccess.org/my-account/downloads/ you should be able to download all material you have purchased.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin

 

On Mon., 15 Apr. 2019, 19:44 Robert Doc Wright godfearer, <godfearer@...> wrote:

I just made my first training material purchase. I didn’t see how it would come to me. Should I expect an email since I did not find a download link?

 

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Re: Blog

 

Jackie,
No thanks needed, let alone for apologizing!

I hope all get well there on your end. You are such a nice person :)

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy
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Em 15/04/2019 21:04, Jackie disse:

Thanks for the plug, Marcio. I've had some fairly serious family
emergencies this past few months, but I'm hoping to schedule some
activities/classes in the near future. Again, I appreciate the
shout-out. Thanks so much! & for those list members among us, I do
apologize for the lack of activity. These past few months have been
tough.

On 4/15/19, marcio via Groups.Io <marcinhorj21@...> wrote:
Hi Ralph,
Although I believe you got the answers you were looking for, I just
wanted to chime in and offer you a list where you can talk about
Wordpress, ask your questions and such.
This list is actually a low traffic one as far as I can remember, and
I'd believe the lady that created it is here with us.
While, as I said, the list is a low traffic one, if you post a question
that's for sure you're gonna get some interesting answer(s).
Check it out here <https://www.freelists.org/list/wp4newbs>.

Cheers,
Marcio
AKA /Starboy/


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Em 15/04/2019 18:31, Ralph Boersema disse:
Hi Friends,

I am contemplating starting a blog and have a tech who can help me
with hosting and getting started. Any suggestions for which software
works well with NVDA? My tech is suggesting WordPress, but he is not
particularly familiar with NVDA. Have you all found WordPress to be
fully accessible using NVDA?

Warmly,

Ralph









Re: Blog

Jackie
 

Thanks for the plug, Marcio. I've had some fairly serious family
emergencies this past few months, but I'm hoping to schedule some
activities/classes in the near future. Again, I appreciate the
shout-out. Thanks so much! & for those list members among us, I do
apologize for the lack of activity. These past few months have been
tough.

On 4/15/19, marcio via Groups.Io <marcinhorj21@...> wrote:
Hi Ralph,
Although I believe you got the answers you were looking for, I just
wanted to chime in and offer you a list where you can talk about
Wordpress, ask your questions and such.
This list is actually a low traffic one as far as I can remember, and
I'd believe the lady that created it is here with us.
While, as I said, the list is a low traffic one, if you post a question
that's for sure you're gonna get some interesting answer(s).
Check it out here <https://www.freelists.org/list/wp4newbs>.

Cheers,
Marcio
AKA /Starboy/


Follow or add me on Facebook <https://facebook.com/coolbutpsycho>

Em 15/04/2019 18:31, Ralph Boersema disse:

Hi Friends,

I am contemplating starting a blog and have a tech who can help me
with hosting and getting started. Any suggestions for which software
works well with NVDA? My tech is suggesting WordPress, but he is not
particularly familiar with NVDA. Have you all found WordPress to be
fully accessible using NVDA?

Warmly,

Ralph




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Re: is there any voice similar or close to the ETI eloquence english voice

Judy Jones
 

I found the site, but thought I’d better check, thanks.

 

 

Judy

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Brian Vogel
Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 3:49 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] is there any voice similar or close to the ETI eloquence english voice

 

On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 05:27 PM, Judy Jones wrote:

So, is blind.help.com an illegal site?

I have no idea, as I cannot get it to load under any web browser to make even a quick assessment.   That was not the site I know to be problematic, which those of you who are on e-mail have already received the link to, which has been redacted from the archive.

When the first thing on the page is an audio recording of Mary Poppins Returns, which has only very recently had commercial release on DVD/Blu-Ray, the probability of that having been produced with the permission of Disney Studios is zero.
 
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Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.

           ~ Edward Abbey

 

 


Re: Hemingway Editor - Command for Colors with NVDA

 

I have never used NVDA to try to report background color, but I seem to recall discussions of it being able to do so for Excel cells (as well as reporting text color as well).  The exact how I do not know, and I have not found the magic search terms to pull anything up from the group archive.

The main webpage for Hemingway shows a number of blocks of text with background colors that demonstrate what the software actually does. In fact, their demo is where you paste your own text if using the web app.   I am not finding it particularly accessible, as I wasn't able to get to the various boxes giving counts, and background colors for the various things it flags, except by mousing over them.

Unfortunately the Desktop app, which is likely at least somewhat more accessible (possibly entirely accessible), costs $19.99.  I did not continue along far enough to see what, if any, refund policy they might have or if there's a fully functional demo version that will run for some short period of time.

Unless I'm missing something (and I could be) the web app on the Hemingway site has limited accessibility in terms of what one would actually be using it for (which is not exactly surprising given that the presentation is directly targeted at vision using color-coding.  Others may be able to evaluate whether it's my lack of ultra-in-depth skill with NVDA that's made me have that opinion, but I'm just not seeing this as being an easy web app/website to use.
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Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.

           ~ Edward Abbey

 

 


Re: Help: Using Newest Version of NVDA and Excel 2007 crashing

Steve Hoad
 

Fixed: I began wondering if my copy of NVDA had somehow become
corrupted. I reloaded the program and it seems to have fixed the
problem.
Steve

On 4/15/19, Steve Hoad <mainefun40@...> wrote:
Hello: Is it possible that the latest version of NVDA doesn't play
well with Excel 2007? I have been using Windows 10 with these
programs successfully in a previous version of NVDA but now, when I
open Excel it crashes almost immediately.
As an alternative, can I easily roll back to NVDA in a 2018 version
that Excel worked well with?

Any help or information would be appreciated. Thanks,


--
Steve Hoad
--
Steve Hoad


Re: is there any voice similar or close to the ETI eloquence english voice

 

On Mon, Apr 15, 2019 at 05:27 PM, Judy Jones wrote:
So, is blind.help.com an illegal site?
I have no idea, as I cannot get it to load under any web browser to make even a quick assessment.   That was not the site I know to be problematic, which those of you who are on e-mail have already received the link to, which has been redacted from the archive.

When the first thing on the page is an audio recording of Mary Poppins Returns, which has only very recently had commercial release on DVD/Blu-Ray, the probability of that having been produced with the permission of Disney Studios is zero.
 
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.

           ~ Edward Abbey

 

 


Hemingway Editor - Command for Colors with NVDA

David Russell
 

Hi Brian and others,

I am interested to use the Hemingway App on its website, once I put my
document into their editor.

I can read the summary report, but I cannot read their notations,
arranged by color as to subject, that I understand to be embedded in
the document I produce.

At one time, I worked for an organization that put their quality
assurance highlights in a similar fashion, but was using an older
version of Jaws at the time, around 2010.

I thought Hemingway may function similarly if colors function were enabled.

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Re: Blog

 

Hi Ralph,
Although I believe you got the answers you were looking for, I just wanted to chime in and offer you a list where you can talk about Wordpress, ask your questions and such.
This list is actually a low traffic one as far as I can remember, and I'd believe the lady that created it is here with us.
While, as I said, the list is a low traffic one, if you post a question that's for sure you're gonna get some interesting answer(s).
Check it out here.

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy
Follow or add me on Facebook

Em 15/04/2019 18:31, Ralph Boersema disse:

Hi Friends,

 

I am contemplating starting a blog and have a tech who can help me with hosting and getting started. Any suggestions for which software works well with NVDA? My tech is suggesting WordPress, but he is not particularly familiar with NVDA. Have you all found WordPress to be fully accessible using NVDA?

 

Warmly,

Ralph



Re: NVDA With Excel

Howard Traxler <howard@...>
 

Yes I did, and thank you Hermann.  It did solve the problem.


Howard

On 4/15/2019 4:35 PM, Hermann-Josef Kurzen wrote:
Hi Howard,

earlier today NVDA 2019.1.1 was released.
Did You give it a try yet?


Greetings - Hermann


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Hello folks,


Using Windows 10 pro 64, NVDA 19.1, MS Office 2003/Excel.


I'm having trouble running Excel with NVDA.  With NVDA running, Excel
will only flash and stop; reverting to the previous screen. If Excel is
already running, NVDA will not start.  Excel runs properly with JAWS
demo; runs, but not usably with Narrator.


I have used this combination (NVDA and Excel) successfully for many
months.  Perhaps I should go back to an earlier version of NVDA.  See my
note (below) posted on another list.


Anybody, thanks for ideas.


Howard


Trying different screen readers:
1. With NVDA, I get the results I described in my message above.
2.  With Narrator, Pressing enter on the desktop shortcut, I get two or
three clicks and revert to the previously running application.  Pressing
the spacebar will start Excel, but no useful information is read.
3. With JAWS (40 minute demo), Excel comes up and allows normal
functioning: data entry, reading cells, opening and saving file.

It appears to me that this is caused by an interaction with the screen
readers.

I probably could get done what I need to in less than forty minutes but
it sure is inconvenient.  Maybe something to ask the NVAccess folks.





Re: Blog

Sarah k Alawami
 

I have used wordpress and jumla and both are good. You can a I believe start a blog at libsyh as well, but do not quote me on that.

Take care

On 15 Apr 2019, at 14:45, Shaun Everiss wrote:

Wordpress is good, I have tested for wordpress access community.

I have a blog in wordpress, and I also use a wordpress blog on another site.

You do need a classic editer plugin to get past the inaccessible crappy gutenberg stuff but then some have actually liked it.



On 16/04/2019 9:31 AM, Ralph Boersema wrote:

Hi Friends,

 

I am contemplating starting a blog and have a tech who can help me with hosting and getting started. Any suggestions for which software works well with NVDA? My tech is suggesting WordPress, but he is not particularly familiar with NVDA. Have you all found WordPress to be fully accessible using NVDA?

 

Warmly,

Ralph