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Re: Jumping Between Clickables

Marcio
 

Don't quote me on this, but I have a feeling that if the item is only a clickable one, tab won't let you land on it, in fact, probably it'll ignore the existence of such an item.

And, while we are on this, is there any command to access clickable items with NVDA?

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy
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Em 16/04/2019 13:04, Gene disse:

I have no recollection of clickable items being grouped in links.  I doubt that k will move you to a clickable item and I doubt they appear in the links list.  Of course, you can tab to a clickable item but that means nothing concerning being grouped as links or not because you can tab to any control or structure such as a link. 
 
It doesn't matter what clickable structures do.  If they are clickable, they should be able to be recognized when using a move to next clickable command.  The screen-reader recognizes them and announces clickable when you move to one.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Jumping Between Clickables

Well and working from memory here, the problem with clickables is that there
is little info on what they may actually be doing. Its up to the site
developer to define it so they are grouped in links since there could well
be several different sorts of clickable and how do you actually know which
is which? at least if they show up in the links one might be able to assume
they are supposed to do stuff. I have to say some of them seem to do nothing
whatsoever while others act like links or drop downs and all sorts of other
things.
 I think somebody in charge of web accessibility needs to sort this one out.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Luke Davis" <luke@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 10:39 AM
Subject: [nvda] Jumping Between Clickables


> Hello
>
> Is there any reasonable way, or is there some way in development, to jump
> between items on a web page that are "clickable"?
>
> The manual only mentions clickables in regards to the indicator in the
> braille section, and the checkbox in the document format configuration
> description, and even in this latter it is very sparse information.
>
> I have found various discussions about clickables, whether they should be
> spoken, whether lots in a row should be spoken, and how to get them to
> stop speaking, but nothing about how to navigate them.
>
> For example, if I have a bunch of links on a page, I can skip between them
> with k, v, u, etc.  If there are buttons, I can use b and B.  And so on.
> But how does one do this with clickables?  Sometimes you run into quite
> long lists of these, and it would be nice to move through them quickly, or
> to jump to them from another part of the page.
>
> Frankly I'm surprised this has not been done already, but maybe there is
> some reason I can't think of.  Or maybe it is being done and just isn't
> documented in an obvious way.
>
> Luke
>
>
>
>




Re: reaper

Sarah k Alawami
 

It's quite easy to use. Osara is just an extension to make reaper more accessible. I'm still grasping it after about 3 or 4 months but I'm now able to edit podcasts, create sends and receives and so so much more.

On 16 Apr 2019, at 8:34, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:

And as I posted in the last thread on reaper, Osara add on is a must. I have to say its a very good bit of software but was a little too much for my brain!
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@...>
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Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] reaper


The Reapers Without Peepers (RWP) group main page on groups.io is: https://groups.io/g/rwp
All of the e-mail addresses for the group are, as is typical, located near the end of the group's main page.

If one wants to search for a group that might possibly exist under Groups.io, use this webpage: https://groups.io/search?p=SubsCount,,,20,2,0,0
A search there on Reaper turns up this group as the first search result.

Detailed information on using Reaper with any screen reader can be found there and the group appears to be quite active based on the monthly post totals on its main page.
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Re: Cannot open nvaccess.org in Iran

Sarah k Alawami
 

If you can set up locations you can set up a tor proxi. I do this on my mac and never use the browser ut am connected to either the proxi I used to have or one on tor's site. Note, I dunno how to do this on windows so google will be your friend.

On 16 Apr 2019, at 3:22, Gene wrote:

From one or two comments I've seen on a list I follow, it appears that recent Tor versions are not accessible.  If you want to use it, let us know and someone will make the last accessible version available.  It is version 7.5.6.  I don't use Tor, though I did on one or two occasions quite some time ago and I'm interested in it remaining accessible.  I would suggest that those who use it contact the Tor developers and discuss the accessibility problem.  It may be nothing more than turning on access in Tor.  For some reason, developers may have turned it off. 
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Luke Davis
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 4:56 AM
To: nvda
Subject: Re: [nvda] Cannot open nvaccess.org in Iran

It may be the IP address that's being blocked, not the provider or site.
It appears that nvaccess.org is on a dedicated server, at the IP address
45.33.21.113
It may be only that IP address that's being blocked, especially if it changed
recently and the one it has now used to be something your government did want to
block.
The last time they changed anything in that record may have been in December of
2018, but that's only a guess based on some technical information and only the
nvaccess people can say for sure.

All that said, if you're getting a 403 error, that probably is nvaccess blocking
you for some reason, not the other way around.  Can you paste the full text of
the error you get?

Lastly, you may be able to use tor to access it.  A bit of work to get setup,
but if it is a blocking based on geographic location issue, that may very well
get you around it.  A VPN or a proxy is probably easier, but may not be free.

Luke

On Tue, 16 Apr 2019, Mohammadreza Rashad wrote:

>
> Dear Rosemarie,
> As I said before, I have this issue with more than one ISP, and have received many reports from various places.
> Dear @Quentin, would you please help me to solve this mysterious problem? I, as a blind person, think that we have right to use, download and update the
> free NVDA screenreader, like other blind computer users.
>
>    ***
> Best Wishes,
>      Mohammadreza Rashad
>    sent by Nokia 8
Re: reaper

Sarah k Alawami
 

You will find the addresses you need at the reapers without peapers link

On 16 Apr 2019, at 1:44, Isaac wrote:

Hi, does anyone know the blind list for reaper and is anyone on this list able to give me the information as reaper works with nvda.
Thanks
Re: Jumping Between Clickables

Andre Fisher
 

It's best to focus on what the user is trying to acomplish, which is a way to move from clickable element to element. As the name suggests, these elements are labelled as such because they perform an action when clicked by the mouse, and some of them will be activated using the keyboard. Yes, some website developers may wrongfully use this tag, but nevertheless it can be useful to jjump to them.

I would also like to see something like this. Perhaps the letter Y can be used to move to the next clickable item, or P or J, with Shift being added to move to the previous element. I don't recommend this being in the Elements List, due to some websites abusing this tag as mentionned before.
Re: Cannot open nvaccess.org in Iran

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Something very odd is going on. If you contacted your internet provider and they say they didn't block nvaccess.org, then something is very wrong. I don't know what it could be.

On 4/16/2019 7:06 AM, zahra wrote:
today, i contacted our internet provider and they told me that they
did not block nvda website.
they told that i should contact nvaccess staff and ask them for help.

On 4/16/19, Antony Stone <antony.stone@nvda.open.source.it> wrote:
If you do not wish to use a proxy, VPN, Tor or similar avoidance of the
default routing which you have on your Internet connection then I think the

only people worth talking to about this problem are your Internet
Connectivity
Provider.

Either they are filtering / blocking your access to the site, or else
someone
upstream from them is doing so, and your contract is with your connectivity

provider, so talk to them if it isn't working correctly. They in turn have
a
contract with their upstream provider, so they can take the problem further
if
need be.

Antony.

On Tuesday 16 April 2019 at 13:33:59, zahra wrote:

hi dejan and i appreciate your kindness and sympathy with us.
i also wish to find a solution that i can use nvda website as i could
use before, without proxy, vpn or any antifilter softwares.
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Re: Jumping Between Clickables

Gene
 

I have no recollection of clickable items being grouped in links.  I doubt that k will move you to a clickable item and I doubt they appear in the links list.  Of course, you can tab to a clickable item but that means nothing concerning being grouped as links or not because you can tab to any control or structure such as a link. 
 
It doesn't matter what clickable structures do.  If they are clickable, they should be able to be recognized when using a move to next clickable command.  The screen-reader recognizes them and announces clickable when you move to one.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 10:40 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Jumping Between Clickables

Well and working from memory here, the problem with clickables is that there
is little info on what they may actually be doing. Its up to the site
developer to define it so they are grouped in links since there could well
be several different sorts of clickable and how do you actually know which
is which? at least if they show up in the links one might be able to assume
they are supposed to do stuff. I have to say some of them seem to do nothing
whatsoever while others act like links or drop downs and all sorts of other
things.
 I think somebody in charge of web accessibility needs to sort this one out.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Luke Davis" <luke@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 10:39 AM
Subject: [nvda] Jumping Between Clickables


> Hello
>
> Is there any reasonable way, or is there some way in development, to jump
> between items on a web page that are "clickable"?
>
> The manual only mentions clickables in regards to the indicator in the
> braille section, and the checkbox in the document format configuration
> description, and even in this latter it is very sparse information.
>
> I have found various discussions about clickables, whether they should be
> spoken, whether lots in a row should be spoken, and how to get them to
> stop speaking, but nothing about how to navigate them.
>
> For example, if I have a bunch of links on a page, I can skip between them
> with k, v, u, etc.  If there are buttons, I can use b and B.  And so on.
> But how does one do this with clickables?  Sometimes you run into quite
> long lists of these, and it would be nice to move through them quickly, or
> to jump to them from another part of the page.
>
> Frankly I'm surprised this has not been done already, but maybe there is
> some reason I can't think of.  Or maybe it is being done and just isn't
> documented in an obvious way.
>
> Luke
>
>
>
>



Re: Help: Using Newest Version of NVDA and Excel 2007 crashing

Mohd. Ahtesham Shaikh
 

Hi
Uninstall nvda and reinstall 
Hopefully it will resolve
It happened with me yesterday
It worked


On Tue, 16 Apr 2019 at 4:48 PM, zahra <nasrinkhaksar3@...> wrote:
does nvda new version have specific issue or crash with word 2003?
whats the problem exactly?

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> As an aside, I have issues with the current nvda in word 2003, but what I
> have done is to keep an older nvda as a portable version and am happy to
> switch to that when its needed.
>  I use a batch file to shut one and open the other at will.
>  Its pretty simple to do in such situations.
>  I know I'm a dinosaur!
>  Brian
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> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Steve Hoad" <mainefun40@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Monday, April 15, 2019 11:59 PM
> Subject: Re: [nvda] Help: Using Newest Version of NVDA and Excel 2007
> crashing
>
>
>> Fixed: I began wondering if my copy of NVDA had somehow become
>> corrupted. I reloaded the program and it seems to have fixed the
>> problem.
>> Steve
>>
>> On 4/15/19, Steve Hoad <mainefun40@...> wrote:
>>> Hello: Is it possible that the latest version of NVDA doesn't play
>>> well with Excel 2007?  I have been using Windows 10 with these
>>> programs successfully in a previous version of NVDA but now, when I
>>> open Excel it crashes almost immediately.
>>> As an alternative, can I easily roll back to NVDA in a 2018 version
>>> that Excel worked well with?
>>>
>>> Any help or information would be appreciated.  Thanks,
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>>  Steve Hoad
>>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Steve Hoad
>>
>>
>>
>
>
>
>
>


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Re: Inconsistency with NVDA+t on desktop

Brian Vogel
 

As a generic observation, you can and sometimes do get all sorts of difficulty/inconsistency when asynchronous processing is being used (and it's used a lot these days) and you have something else (probably NVDA, in this case) "playing watchman" for any one of a number of events that could be thrown at it in any order, and sometimes very rapidly.   You'll often end up with the last event that occurred in rapid succession being the only one that ends up being presented to the end user, as by the time you'd even try with the others it would get even more insanely confusing.  Sometimes what the watcher gets last is not what actually happened last.

The following is offered by means of demonstration of this sort of problem generally, not specific to NVDA.  I experienced an issue with asynchronous processing when writing a custom VBA script for a screen reader user so that Outlook would automatically click through on a link contained in specific e-mail messages.  The message would come in, the script would be kicked off, but the actual message body text would not yet be available for processing because Outlook was still doing something with it while the script was already running.   I had to put a bit of "time burning run the treadmill" type code in the script to make sure that Outlook had finished its bit and handed off access to the message body before I moved on.  It took me forever to figure out what was going on, as it made no sense to me that Outlook could hand over a message to a script but had only handed over *part* of a message to a script until it finished whatever it was doing with the other part.

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Re: Jumping Between Clickables

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Well and working from memory here, the problem with clickables is that there is little info on what they may actually be doing. Its up to the site developer to define it so they are grouped in links since there could well be several different sorts of clickable and how do you actually know which is which? at least if they show up in the links one might be able to assume they are supposed to do stuff. I have to say some of them seem to do nothing whatsoever while others act like links or drop downs and all sorts of other things.
I think somebody in charge of web accessibility needs to sort this one out.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Luke Davis" <luke@newanswertech.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 10:39 AM
Subject: [nvda] Jumping Between Clickables


Hello

Is there any reasonable way, or is there some way in development, to jump between items on a web page that are "clickable"?

The manual only mentions clickables in regards to the indicator in the braille section, and the checkbox in the document format configuration description, and even in this latter it is very sparse information.

I have found various discussions about clickables, whether they should be spoken, whether lots in a row should be spoken, and how to get them to stop speaking, but nothing about how to navigate them.

For example, if I have a bunch of links on a page, I can skip between them with k, v, u, etc. If there are buttons, I can use b and B. And so on.
But how does one do this with clickables? Sometimes you run into quite long lists of these, and it would be nice to move through them quickly, or to jump to them from another part of the page.

Frankly I'm surprised this has not been done already, but maybe there is some reason I can't think of. Or maybe it is being done and just isn't documented in an obvious way.

Luke
Re: Need your support to web whats app

Andre Fisher
 

Hi.

While the desktop app is somewhat inaccessible, with unlabelled buttons, I do use it on a daily basis. What are some of the challenges that the person may face?
Re: Inconsistency with NVDA+t on desktop

Andre Fisher
 

Hi.

On my end, using Windows 10, there seems to be some consistency to the behaviour as follows:

Pressing Windows+M: Program Manager
Pressing Windows+D: Explorer

Also, I often hear explorer when an application may hang, which results in its correct title not being reported.
Re: sapi 4

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

Well some sapi 5 don't work, notable Emily as its 16 bit and there may well be other issues on Sappi 4, one I encountered was strange things when cursoring through or deleting characters with some of the older voices, like Via voice for example.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Isaac" <bigikemusic@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 10:09 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] sapi 4


Nevermind on the sapi 4 its working now.
----- Original Message -----
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Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 3:45 AM
Subject: [nvda] sapi 4


Hi, have sapi 4 voices installed and they are not picked up by nvda.
Thanks
Re: reaper

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And as I posted in the last thread on reaper, Osara add on is a must. I have to say its a very good bit of software but was a little too much for my brain!
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brian Vogel" <britechguy@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] reaper


The Reapers Without Peepers (RWP) group main page on groups.io is: https://groups.io/g/rwp
All of the e-mail addresses for the group are, as is typical, located near the end of the group's main page.

If one wants to search for a group that might possibly exist under Groups.io, use this webpage: https://groups.io/search?p=SubsCount,,,20,2,0,0
A search there on Reaper turns up this group as the first search result.

Detailed information on using Reaper with any screen reader can be found there and the group appears to be quite active based on the monthly post totals on its main page.
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Re: Inconsistency with NVDA+t on desktop

Felix G.
 

Hi,
indeed it could. Something is off somewhere and a cluster of what seem
to be independent bugs has formed around it, but I have no idea what
it could be except to assume it happens when the watchdog kicks in at
certain times.
Best,
Felix

Am Di., 16. Apr. 2019 um 17:30 Uhr schrieb Brian's Mail list account
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Could it also be implicated in the way at certain times when a browser is
launched with auto say all on, it fails and indeed often fails to bring
focus to the document until you do something like open and close a menu?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Felix G." <constantlyvariable@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Inconsistency with NVDA+t on desktop


Hi,
thanks for confirming. The more I think about it, the more I am of the
opinion that this might also be related to issue #8389, which I myself
reported, because in the final analysis it has to do with focus
tracking again. Sorry that this is becoming an exercise in
self-reference on my part, but I keep running into ramifications of it
and they are pretty much everything I currently dislike about NVDA,
meaning I pretty much love everything else.
Best,
Felix

Am Di., 16. Apr. 2019 um 10:31 Uhr schrieb Brian's Mail list account
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You are right the basic intermittent issue has been around generally
since
the xp days.
If you look at logs you do often see warnings but no actual errors. I do
not have some comparison logs handy and as it is quite a small irritation
probably low priority, but despite it being in the tracker I did not find
it.
My poor search skills probably!
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Inconsistency with NVDA+t on desktop


hi.
yes.
i confirm this problem in nvda 2017.2 (my favorite version) on windows
xp.
i dont understand whats the problem.
and i thought that i am the only one who has this issue!
in this case, i cant do anything or open my computer and desktop
programs.
thanks for reporting and God bless you!

On 4/16/19, Felix G. <constantlyvariable@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi folks,
has anyone else observed that sometimes NVDA reports the title of the
desktop as "Explorer" whereas at other times it states "Program
Manager?"
As an aside, I find that "Explorer" is often announced even when it is
inappropriate as something completely different has focus.
Best,
Felix




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Re: Need your support to web whats app

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That is a Firefox add on you mean?
I've actually not heard of it.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Sandesh computer trainer HR" <rh.sandesh@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 9:21 AM
Subject: [nvda] Need your support to web whats app


Hi friends,
Need solutions to access the whats app of web version on desktop.
One of our candidate joined company in India.
She should use whats app very efficiently by using desktop with screen
reader NVDA.
At present unable to use the app very efficiently.
Note:
Tried with Mozilla fire fox and add on.
It is not accessible also getting error "not respondinng"
If we remove add on then PC works well.

Add on name is f123.
With regards,
Sandesh HR
Re: Inconsistency with NVDA+t on desktop

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Could it also be implicated in the way at certain times when a browser is launched with auto say all on, it fails and indeed often fails to bring focus to the document until you do something like open and close a menu?
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Felix G." <constantlyvariable@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 12:26 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Inconsistency with NVDA+t on desktop


Hi,
thanks for confirming. The more I think about it, the more I am of the
opinion that this might also be related to issue #8389, which I myself
reported, because in the final analysis it has to do with focus
tracking again. Sorry that this is becoming an exercise in
self-reference on my part, but I keep running into ramifications of it
and they are pretty much everything I currently dislike about NVDA,
meaning I pretty much love everything else.
Best,
Felix

Am Di., 16. Apr. 2019 um 10:31 Uhr schrieb Brian's Mail list account
via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io>:

You are right the basic intermittent issue has been around generally since
the xp days.
If you look at logs you do often see warnings but no actual errors. I do
not have some comparison logs handy and as it is quite a small irritation
probably low priority, but despite it being in the tracker I did not find
it.
My poor search skills probably!
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "zahra" <nasrinkhaksar3@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, April 16, 2019 9:01 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Inconsistency with NVDA+t on desktop


hi.
yes.
i confirm this problem in nvda 2017.2 (my favorite version) on windows xp.
i dont understand whats the problem.
and i thought that i am the only one who has this issue!
in this case, i cant do anything or open my computer and desktop programs.
thanks for reporting and God bless you!

On 4/16/19, Felix G. <constantlyvariable@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi folks,
has anyone else observed that sometimes NVDA reports the title of the
desktop as "Explorer" whereas at other times it states "Program
Manager?"
As an aside, I find that "Explorer" is often announced even when it is
inappropriate as something completely different has focus.
Best,
Felix




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were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
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I would not do it.
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Re: Cannot open nvaccess.org in Iran

Antony Stone
 

Well, I would find it quite bizarre if the NVaccess web server were blocking
requests from Iranian IP addresses, but I'm not an admin on that server, so I
can't say for certain.

It would probably be helpful if you could post your public IP address so that
whomever does have access to the server can see whether any requests from that
address have been seen and perhaps responded to.


Antony.

On Tuesday 16 April 2019 at 16:06:31, zahra wrote:

today, i contacted our internet provider and they told me that they
did not block nvda website.
they told that i should contact nvaccess staff and ask them for help.

On 4/16/19, Antony Stone <antony.stone@nvda.open.source.it> wrote:
If you do not wish to use a proxy, VPN, Tor or similar avoidance of the
default routing which you have on your Internet connection then I think
the only people worth talking to about this problem are your Internet
Connectivity Provider.

Either they are filtering / blocking your access to the site, or else
someone upstream from them is doing so, and your contract is with your
connectivity provider, so talk to them if it isn't working correctly.
They in turn have a contract with their upstream provider, so they can
take the problem further if need be.

Antony.

On Tuesday 16 April 2019 at 13:33:59, zahra wrote:
hi dejan and i appreciate your kindness and sympathy with us.
i also wish to find a solution that i can use nvda website as i could
use before, without proxy, vpn or any antifilter softwares.
--
The words "e pluribus unum" on the Great Seal of the United States are from a
poem by Virgil entitled "Moretum", which is about cheese and garlic salad
dressing.

Please reply to the list;
please *don't* CC me.
Re: Cannot open nvaccess.org in Iran

zahra
 

today, i contacted our internet provider and they told me that they
did not block nvda website.
they told that i should contact nvaccess staff and ask them for help.

On 4/16/19, Antony Stone <antony.stone@nvda.open.source.it> wrote:
If you do not wish to use a proxy, VPN, Tor or similar avoidance of the
default routing which you have on your Internet connection then I think the

only people worth talking to about this problem are your Internet
Connectivity
Provider.

Either they are filtering / blocking your access to the site, or else
someone
upstream from them is doing so, and your contract is with your connectivity

provider, so talk to them if it isn't working correctly. They in turn have
a
contract with their upstream provider, so they can take the problem further
if
need be.

Antony.

On Tuesday 16 April 2019 at 13:33:59, zahra wrote:

hi dejan and i appreciate your kindness and sympathy with us.
i also wish to find a solution that i can use nvda website as i could
use before, without proxy, vpn or any antifilter softwares.
--
https://tools.ietf.org/html/rfc6890 - providing 16 million IPv4 addresses
for
talking to yourself.

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list;
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me.



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were I given all the seven heavens
with all they contain
in order that
I may disobey God
by depriving an ant
from the husk of a grain of barley,
I would not do it.
imam ali
Re: reaper

Brian Vogel
 

The Reapers Without Peepers (RWP) group main page on groups.io is:  https://groups.io/g/rwp
All of the e-mail addresses for the group are, as is typical, located near the end of the group's main page.

If one wants to search for a group that might possibly exist under Groups.io, use this webpage:  https://groups.io/search?p=SubsCount,,,20,2,0,0 
A search there on Reaper turns up this group as the first search result.

Detailed information on using Reaper with any screen reader can be found there and the group appears to be quite active based on the monthly post totals on its main page.
--

Brian - Windows 10 Pro, 64-Bit, Version 1809, Build 17763  

Growth for the sake of growth is the ideology of the cancer cell.

           ~ Edward Abbey

 

 
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