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Re: Suspicious log when starting Outlook

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Now you need to ignore the two addons in the log below as weird stuff goes on even if they are disabled when launching this older copy of word too. It does not seem to result in any problems.
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Taskbar']
IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (14:23:25.157):
Input: kb(desktop):control+alt+m
DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (14:23:25.299):
Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 233, in <module>
File "core.pyo", line 519, in main
File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 1003, in Notify
File "core.pyo", line 490, in run
File "queueHandler.pyo", line 86, in pumpAll
File "queueHandler.pyo", line 53, in flushQueue
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 62, in _queueEventCallback
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 150, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 163, in doPreGainFocus
File "api.pyo", line 145, in setFocusObject
File "api.pyo", line 240, in setNavigatorObject
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 155, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 92, in __init__
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
File "C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\AudioThemes3D\globalPlugins\audioThemes\__init__.py", line 128, in event_becomeNavigatorObject
File "C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\AudioThemes3D\globalPlugins\audioThemes\__init__.py", line 173, in playObject
File "C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\AudioThemes3D\globalPlugins\audioThemes\__init__.py", line 205, in play
File "baseObject.pyo", line 31, in __get__
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 815, in _get_role
File "baseObject.pyo", line 47, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyo", line 147, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 807, in _get_IAccessibleRole
File "comtypes\__init__.pyo", line 857, in __call__

DEBUGWARNING - eventHandler.executeEvent (14:23:25.348):
error executing event: becomeNavigatorObject on <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItem object at 0x052574F0> with extra args of {'isFocus': True}
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 155, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 92, in __init__
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
File "C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\AudioThemes3D\globalPlugins\audioThemes\__init__.py", line 128, in event_becomeNavigatorObject
File "C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\AudioThemes3D\globalPlugins\audioThemes\__init__.py", line 173, in playObject
File "C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\AudioThemes3D\globalPlugins\audioThemes\__init__.py", line 205, in play
File "baseObject.pyo", line 31, in __get__
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 815, in _get_role
File "baseObject.pyo", line 47, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyo", line 147, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "watchdog.pyo", line 202, in _COMError_init
CallCancelled
IO - speech.speak (14:23:25.362):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Desktop list']
DEBUGWARNING - eventHandler.executeEvent (14:23:25.448):
error executing event: gainFocus on <NVDAObjects.IAccessible.sysListView32.ListItem object at 0x052574F0> with extra args of {}
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 155, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 92, in __init__
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
File "C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\focusHighlight\globalPlugins\focusHighlight.py", line 519, in event_gainFocus
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
File "C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\AudioThemes3D\globalPlugins\audioThemes\__init__.py", line 124, in event_gainFocus
File "C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\AudioThemes3D\globalPlugins\audioThemes\__init__.py", line 173, in playObject
File "C:\Users\Brian\AppData\Roaming\nvda\addons\AudioThemes3D\globalPlugins\audioThemes\__init__.py", line 205, in play
File "baseObject.pyo", line 31, in __get__
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 815, in _get_role
File "baseObject.pyo", line 47, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyo", line 147, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "watchdog.pyo", line 202, in _COMError_init
CallCancelled
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole (14:23:25.772):
accRole failed: (-2147418111, 'Call was rejected by callee.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole (14:23:25.788):
accRole failed: (-2147418111, 'Call was rejected by callee.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole (14:23:25.792):
accRole failed: (-2147418111, 'Call was rejected by callee.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole (14:23:25.799):
accRole failed: (-2147418111, 'Call was rejected by callee.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole (14:23:25.805):
accRole failed: (-2147418111, 'Call was rejected by callee.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole (14:23:25.812):
accRole failed: (-2147418111, 'Call was rejected by callee.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
IO - speech.speak (14:23:25.841):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'Microsoft Word']
IO - speech.speak (14:23:26.072):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'unknown']
DEBUGWARNING - NVDAObjects.IAccessible.IAccessible._get_IAccessibleRole (14:23:29.091):
accRole failed: (-2147023179, 'The interface is unknown.', (None, None, None, 0, None))
IO - speech.speak (14:23:29.108):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'edit multi line']
IO - speech.speak (14:23:29.201):
Speaking [LangChangeCommand ('en_GB'), u'page 1 section 1 align left', u'blank']

It is my belief that the only real reason the two add ons are compaining is that the format of or the data itself is not something expected by them so they benignly throw the error on passing the control back.

In this case it was Word 2002/XP on a windows 7 machine, but I've seen similar results for 2003/7
Interesting but probably harmless.

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Ralf Kefferpuetz" <ralf.kefferpuetz@elra-consulting.de>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2019 11:19 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Suspicious log when starting Outlook


Felix,
Do you have any impact in Outlook when starting up?
I'm wondering if this is not only the normal behavior when NVDA is dealing with the Outlook splash screen during startup...

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Felix G.
Sent: Dienstag, 30. April 2019 10:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Suspicious log when starting Outlook

---------- Forwarded message ---------
Von: Felix G. <constantlyvariable@gmail.com>
Date: Fr., 26. Apr. 2019 um 13:56 Uhr
Subject: Suspicious log when starting Outlook
To: NVDA screen reader development <nvda-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>


Hi,
this is on Win 7 64 bit, NVDA 2019.1.1, when launching Outlook 2007 (yes, I know, this is old).
CPU is quadcore 3,10 GHz, no rocket by today's standards but also no snail.
Could anyone please suggest what this log excerpt indicates? Seems there's a lot of freezing/unfreezing.
The log starts with me pressing enter to launch Outlook from the taskbar.
Best,
Felix

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (13:45:06.487):
Input: kb(desktop):enter
DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (13:45:09.467):
Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 233, in <module>
File "core.pyo", line 519, in main
File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 1003, in Notify
File "core.pyo", line 489, in run
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 897, in pumpAll
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 620, in processGenericWinEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 532, in winEventToNVDAEvent
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 46, in getNVDAObjectFromEvent
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 85, in __call__
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 411, in findOverlayClasses
File "baseObject.pyo", line 47, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyo", line 147, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 807, in _get_IAccessibleRole
File "comtypes\__init__.pyo", line 857, in __call__

DEBUGWARNING - core.CorePump.run (13:45:09.467):
errors in this core pump cycle
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "core.pyo", line 489, in run
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 897, in pumpAll
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 620, in processGenericWinEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 532, in winEventToNVDAEvent
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 46, in getNVDAObjectFromEvent
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 85, in __call__
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 411, in findOverlayClasses
File "baseObject.pyo", line 47, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyo", line 147, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "watchdog.pyo", line 202, in _COMError_init CallCancelled DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (13:45:10.809):
Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 233, in <module>
File "core.pyo", line 519, in main
File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 1003, in Notify
File "core.pyo", line 490, in run
File "queueHandler.pyo", line 86, in pumpAll
File "queueHandler.pyo", line 53, in flushQueue
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 62, in _queueEventCallback
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 155, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 92, in __init__
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 966, in event_gainFocus
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 854, in reportFocus
File "speech.pyo", line 403, in speakObject
File "speech.pyo", line 277, in speakObjectProperties
File "baseObject.pyo", line 47, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyo", line 147, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 912, in _get_keyboardShortcut
File "comtypes\__init__.pyo", line 857, in __call__


Re: Suspicious log when starting Outlook

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I thought the sourceforge list was discontinued?
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----- Original Message -----
From: "Felix G." <constantlyvariable@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2019 9:25 AM
Subject: [nvda] Suspicious log when starting Outlook


---------- Forwarded message ---------
Von: Felix G. <constantlyvariable@gmail.com>
Date: Fr., 26. Apr. 2019 um 13:56 Uhr
Subject: Suspicious log when starting Outlook
To: NVDA screen reader development <nvda-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>


Hi,
this is on Win 7 64 bit, NVDA 2019.1.1, when launching Outlook 2007
(yes, I know, this is old).
CPU is quadcore 3,10 GHz, no rocket by today's standards but also no snail.
Could anyone please suggest what this log excerpt indicates? Seems
there's a lot of freezing/unfreezing.
The log starts with me pressing enter to launch Outlook from the taskbar.
Best,
Felix

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (13:45:06.487):
Input: kb(desktop):enter
DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (13:45:09.467):
Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 233, in <module>
File "core.pyo", line 519, in main
File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 1003, in Notify
File "core.pyo", line 489, in run
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 897, in pumpAll
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 620, in processGenericWinEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 532, in winEventToNVDAEvent
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 46, in
getNVDAObjectFromEvent
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 85, in __call__
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 411, in findOverlayClasses
File "baseObject.pyo", line 47, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyo", line 147, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 807, in _get_IAccessibleRole
File "comtypes\__init__.pyo", line 857, in __call__

DEBUGWARNING - core.CorePump.run (13:45:09.467):
errors in this core pump cycle
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "core.pyo", line 489, in run
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 897, in pumpAll
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 620, in processGenericWinEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 532, in winEventToNVDAEvent
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 46, in
getNVDAObjectFromEvent
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 85, in __call__
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 411, in findOverlayClasses
File "baseObject.pyo", line 47, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyo", line 147, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "watchdog.pyo", line 202, in _COMError_init
CallCancelled
DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (13:45:10.809):
Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 233, in <module>
File "core.pyo", line 519, in main
File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 1003, in Notify
File "core.pyo", line 490, in run
File "queueHandler.pyo", line 86, in pumpAll
File "queueHandler.pyo", line 53, in flushQueue
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 62, in _queueEventCallback
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 155, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 92, in __init__
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 966, in event_gainFocus
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 854, in reportFocus
File "speech.pyo", line 403, in speakObject
File "speech.pyo", line 277, in speakObjectProperties
File "baseObject.pyo", line 47, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyo", line 147, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 912, in
_get_keyboardShortcut
File "comtypes\__init__.pyo", line 857, in __call__


Re: Suspicious log when starting Outlook

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Could I just interject to say these are pretty common, particularly in older versions of office programs. In the end, most of the time everything sort of tends to recover after a pause. I'm not sure but after the part published you tend to get to that often seen none with zeros after it error.

I see it on say, Word 2003?


I'm thinking its more likely due to the ever changing executables in Office, some use uia some do not and on Outlook this is a much worse case, which is one reason I don't use it.

Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Quentin Christensen" <quentin@nvaccess.org>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2019 10:12 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Suspicious log when starting Outlook


Have you got any add-ons running? If you restart NVDA with add-ons
disabled, do you still get these entries?

On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 6:25 PM Felix G. <constantlyvariable@gmail.com>
wrote:

---------- Forwarded message ---------
Von: Felix G. <constantlyvariable@gmail.com>
Date: Fr., 26. Apr. 2019 um 13:56 Uhr
Subject: Suspicious log when starting Outlook
To: NVDA screen reader development <nvda-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>


Hi,
this is on Win 7 64 bit, NVDA 2019.1.1, when launching Outlook 2007
(yes, I know, this is old).
CPU is quadcore 3,10 GHz, no rocket by today's standards but also no snail.
Could anyone please suggest what this log excerpt indicates? Seems
there's a lot of freezing/unfreezing.
The log starts with me pressing enter to launch Outlook from the taskbar.
Best,
Felix

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (13:45:06.487):
Input: kb(desktop):enter
DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (13:45:09.467):
Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 233, in <module>
File "core.pyo", line 519, in main
File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 1003, in Notify
File "core.pyo", line 489, in run
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 897, in pumpAll
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 620, in processGenericWinEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 532, in winEventToNVDAEvent
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 46, in
getNVDAObjectFromEvent
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 85, in __call__
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 411, in
findOverlayClasses
File "baseObject.pyo", line 47, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyo", line 147, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 807, in
_get_IAccessibleRole
File "comtypes\__init__.pyo", line 857, in __call__

DEBUGWARNING - core.CorePump.run (13:45:09.467):
errors in this core pump cycle
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "core.pyo", line 489, in run
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 897, in pumpAll
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 620, in processGenericWinEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 532, in winEventToNVDAEvent
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 46, in
getNVDAObjectFromEvent
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 85, in __call__
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 411, in
findOverlayClasses
File "baseObject.pyo", line 47, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyo", line 147, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "watchdog.pyo", line 202, in _COMError_init
CallCancelled
DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (13:45:10.809):
Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 233, in <module>
File "core.pyo", line 519, in main
File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 1003, in Notify
File "core.pyo", line 490, in run
File "queueHandler.pyo", line 86, in pumpAll
File "queueHandler.pyo", line 53, in flushQueue
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 62, in _queueEventCallback
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 155, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 92, in __init__
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 966, in event_gainFocus
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 854, in reportFocus
File "speech.pyo", line 403, in speakObject
File "speech.pyo", line 277, in speakObjectProperties
File "baseObject.pyo", line 47, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyo", line 147, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 912, in
_get_keyboardShortcut
File "comtypes\__init__.pyo", line 857, in __call__



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Re: outlook 2016 and NVDA 2019.1.1: nvda's focus does not go to next/previous message after pressing up/down key in message list

Gene
 

Make sure the program is set for object navigation, not screen review.  This sounds like a problem caused by screen review being the setting.  After using screen review, people should be sure to return to object navigation because not doing so causes problems and some of those problems don't appear to be connected to screen review being the current setting, but they are.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: J.G
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2019 6:13 AM
Subject: [nvda] outlook 2016 and NVDA 2019.1.1: nvda's focus does not go to next/previous message after pressing up/down key in message list

Hello,

my client uses NVDA screen reader on win10 with outlook 2016 as a mail client. when we've updated NVDA to latest stable version, nvda's focus does not go to next/previous message in message list when pressing up/down key. before I began to help her, she had one of older versions of nvda, I don't know exactly which; but she tells me that it worked fine.
I tried with shift+tab and then tab again to refresh and it sometimes work, sometimes does not. I also tried with word UIA enabled, but there were same results.
any suggestion, how to solve this problem?

thanks in advance.

regards, Jožef


Re: Suspicious log when starting Outlook

Felix G.
 

Hi,
quirks immediately after starting programs have been a long term issue
for me. This is just one of the cases where I chose to have a look at
the log. I believe these are all instances of issue #8389.
In general, whenever cpu spikes, focus tracking goes flaky on me.
Solidly confirmed across multiple machines running both Win 7 and 10.
Best,
Felix
Best,
Felix

Am Di., 30. Apr. 2019 um 13:16 Uhr schrieb Quentin Christensen
<quentin@nvaccess.org>:


Is this a new issue with 2019.1.1 or can you remember when it started? Or has it always happened?

On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 8:27 PM Felix G. <constantlyvariable@gmail.com> wrote:

Hi,
yes, the impact is I often have to alt+tab away and back in to get any
meaningful output.
Best,
Felix

Am Di., 30. Apr. 2019 um 12:19 Uhr schrieb Ralf Kefferpuetz
<ralf.kefferpuetz@elra-consulting.de>:

Felix,
Do you have any impact in Outlook when starting up?
I'm wondering if this is not only the normal behavior when NVDA is dealing with the Outlook splash screen during startup...

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Felix G.
Sent: Dienstag, 30. April 2019 10:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Suspicious log when starting Outlook

---------- Forwarded message ---------
Von: Felix G. <constantlyvariable@gmail.com>
Date: Fr., 26. Apr. 2019 um 13:56 Uhr
Subject: Suspicious log when starting Outlook
To: NVDA screen reader development <nvda-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>


Hi,
this is on Win 7 64 bit, NVDA 2019.1.1, when launching Outlook 2007 (yes, I know, this is old).
CPU is quadcore 3,10 GHz, no rocket by today's standards but also no snail.
Could anyone please suggest what this log excerpt indicates? Seems there's a lot of freezing/unfreezing.
The log starts with me pressing enter to launch Outlook from the taskbar.
Best,
Felix

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (13:45:06.487):
Input: kb(desktop):enter
DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (13:45:09.467):
Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 233, in <module>
File "core.pyo", line 519, in main
File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 1003, in Notify
File "core.pyo", line 489, in run
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 897, in pumpAll
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 620, in processGenericWinEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 532, in winEventToNVDAEvent
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 46, in getNVDAObjectFromEvent
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 85, in __call__
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 411, in findOverlayClasses
File "baseObject.pyo", line 47, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyo", line 147, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 807, in _get_IAccessibleRole
File "comtypes\__init__.pyo", line 857, in __call__

DEBUGWARNING - core.CorePump.run (13:45:09.467):
errors in this core pump cycle
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "core.pyo", line 489, in run
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 897, in pumpAll
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 620, in processGenericWinEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 532, in winEventToNVDAEvent
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 46, in getNVDAObjectFromEvent
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 85, in __call__
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 411, in findOverlayClasses
File "baseObject.pyo", line 47, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyo", line 147, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "watchdog.pyo", line 202, in _COMError_init CallCancelled DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (13:45:10.809):
Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 233, in <module>
File "core.pyo", line 519, in main
File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 1003, in Notify
File "core.pyo", line 490, in run
File "queueHandler.pyo", line 86, in pumpAll
File "queueHandler.pyo", line 53, in flushQueue
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 62, in _queueEventCallback
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 155, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 92, in __init__
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 966, in event_gainFocus
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 854, in reportFocus
File "speech.pyo", line 403, in speakObject
File "speech.pyo", line 277, in speakObjectProperties
File "baseObject.pyo", line 47, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyo", line 147, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 912, in _get_keyboardShortcut
File "comtypes\__init__.pyo", line 857, in __call__








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Re: Suspicious log when starting Outlook

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

Felix,
Lemme install Office 2007 on one of my Win7 64bit SP1 VMWare images later on. Then we can see if we got a general problem with Outlook 2007 and NVDA 2019.1.1 or something else specific to your installation...

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Felix G.
Sent: Dienstag, 30. April 2019 12:27
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Suspicious log when starting Outlook

Hi,
yes, the impact is I often have to alt+tab away and back in to get any meaningful output.
Best,
Felix

Am Di., 30. Apr. 2019 um 12:19 Uhr schrieb Ralf Kefferpuetz
<ralf.kefferpuetz@elra-consulting.de>:

Felix,
Do you have any impact in Outlook when starting up?
I'm wondering if this is not only the normal behavior when NVDA is dealing with the Outlook splash screen during startup...

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Felix G.
Sent: Dienstag, 30. April 2019 10:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Suspicious log when starting Outlook

---------- Forwarded message ---------
Von: Felix G. <constantlyvariable@gmail.com>
Date: Fr., 26. Apr. 2019 um 13:56 Uhr
Subject: Suspicious log when starting Outlook
To: NVDA screen reader development <nvda-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>


Hi,
this is on Win 7 64 bit, NVDA 2019.1.1, when launching Outlook 2007 (yes, I know, this is old).
CPU is quadcore 3,10 GHz, no rocket by today's standards but also no snail.
Could anyone please suggest what this log excerpt indicates? Seems there's a lot of freezing/unfreezing.
The log starts with me pressing enter to launch Outlook from the taskbar.
Best,
Felix

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (13:45:06.487):
Input: kb(desktop):enter
DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (13:45:09.467):
Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 233, in <module>
File "core.pyo", line 519, in main
File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 1003, in Notify
File "core.pyo", line 489, in run
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 897, in pumpAll
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 620, in processGenericWinEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 532, in winEventToNVDAEvent
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 46, in getNVDAObjectFromEvent
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 85, in __call__
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 411, in findOverlayClasses
File "baseObject.pyo", line 47, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyo", line 147, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 807, in _get_IAccessibleRole
File "comtypes\__init__.pyo", line 857, in __call__

DEBUGWARNING - core.CorePump.run (13:45:09.467):
errors in this core pump cycle
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "core.pyo", line 489, in run
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 897, in pumpAll
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 620, in processGenericWinEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 532, in winEventToNVDAEvent
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 46, in getNVDAObjectFromEvent
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 85, in __call__
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 411, in findOverlayClasses
File "baseObject.pyo", line 47, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyo", line 147, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "watchdog.pyo", line 202, in _COMError_init CallCancelled DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (13:45:10.809):
Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 233, in <module>
File "core.pyo", line 519, in main
File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 1003, in Notify
File "core.pyo", line 490, in run
File "queueHandler.pyo", line 86, in pumpAll
File "queueHandler.pyo", line 53, in flushQueue
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 62, in _queueEventCallback
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 155, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 92, in __init__
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 966, in event_gainFocus
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 854, in reportFocus
File "speech.pyo", line 403, in speakObject
File "speech.pyo", line 277, in speakObjectProperties
File "baseObject.pyo", line 47, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyo", line 147, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 912, in _get_keyboardShortcut
File "comtypes\__init__.pyo", line 857, in __call__







Re: Suspicious log when starting Outlook

Quentin Christensen
 

Is this a new issue with 2019.1.1 or can you remember when it started?  Or has it always happened?


On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 8:27 PM Felix G. <constantlyvariable@...> wrote:
Hi,
yes, the impact is I often have to alt+tab away and back in to get any
meaningful output.
Best,
Felix

Am Di., 30. Apr. 2019 um 12:19 Uhr schrieb Ralf Kefferpuetz
<ralf.kefferpuetz@...>:
>
> Felix,
> Do you have any impact in Outlook when starting up?
> I'm wondering if this is not only the normal behavior when NVDA is dealing with the Outlook splash screen during startup...
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Felix G.
> Sent: Dienstag, 30. April 2019 10:26
> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
> Subject: [nvda] Suspicious log when starting Outlook
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> Von: Felix G. <constantlyvariable@...>
> Date: Fr., 26. Apr. 2019 um 13:56 Uhr
> Subject: Suspicious log when starting Outlook
> To: NVDA screen reader development <nvda-devel@...>
>
>
> Hi,
> this is on Win 7 64 bit, NVDA 2019.1.1, when launching Outlook 2007 (yes, I know, this is old).
> CPU is quadcore 3,10 GHz, no rocket by today's standards but also no snail.
> Could anyone please suggest what this log excerpt indicates? Seems there's a lot of freezing/unfreezing.
> The log starts with me pressing enter to launch Outlook from the taskbar.
> Best,
> Felix
>
> IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (13:45:06.487):
> Input: kb(desktop):enter
> DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (13:45:09.467):
> Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:
>   File "nvda.pyw", line 233, in <module>
>   File "core.pyo", line 519, in main
>   File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
>   File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 1003, in Notify
>   File "core.pyo", line 489, in run
>   File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 897, in pumpAll
>   File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 620, in processGenericWinEvent
>   File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 532, in winEventToNVDAEvent
>   File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 46, in getNVDAObjectFromEvent
>   File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 85, in __call__
>   File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 411, in findOverlayClasses
>   File "baseObject.pyo", line 47, in __get__
>   File "baseObject.pyo", line 147, in _getPropertyViaCache
>   File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 807, in _get_IAccessibleRole
>   File "comtypes\__init__.pyo", line 857, in __call__
>
> DEBUGWARNING - core.CorePump.run (13:45:09.467):
> errors in this core pump cycle
> Traceback (most recent call last):
>   File "core.pyo", line 489, in run
>   File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 897, in pumpAll
>   File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 620, in processGenericWinEvent
>   File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 532, in winEventToNVDAEvent
>   File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 46, in getNVDAObjectFromEvent
>   File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 85, in __call__
>   File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 411, in findOverlayClasses
>   File "baseObject.pyo", line 47, in __get__
>   File "baseObject.pyo", line 147, in _getPropertyViaCache
>   File "watchdog.pyo", line 202, in _COMError_init CallCancelled DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (13:45:10.809):
> Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:
>   File "nvda.pyw", line 233, in <module>
>   File "core.pyo", line 519, in main
>   File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
>   File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 1003, in Notify
>   File "core.pyo", line 490, in run
>   File "queueHandler.pyo", line 86, in pumpAll
>   File "queueHandler.pyo", line 53, in flushQueue
>   File "eventHandler.pyo", line 62, in _queueEventCallback
>   File "eventHandler.pyo", line 155, in executeEvent
>   File "eventHandler.pyo", line 92, in __init__
>   File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
>   File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 966, in event_gainFocus
>   File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 854, in reportFocus
>   File "speech.pyo", line 403, in speakObject
>   File "speech.pyo", line 277, in speakObjectProperties
>   File "baseObject.pyo", line 47, in __get__
>   File "baseObject.pyo", line 147, in _getPropertyViaCache
>   File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 912, in _get_keyboardShortcut
>   File "comtypes\__init__.pyo", line 857, in __call__
>
>
>
>
>
>
>





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outlook 2016 and NVDA 2019.1.1: nvda's focus does not go to next/previous message after pressing up/down key in message list

J.G
 

Hello,

my client uses NVDA screen reader on win10 with outlook 2016 as a mail client. when we've updated NVDA to latest stable version, nvda's focus does not go to next/previous message in message list when pressing up/down key. before I began to help her, she had one of older versions of nvda, I don't know exactly which; but she tells me that it worked fine.
I tried with shift+tab and then tab again to refresh and it sometimes work, sometimes does not. I also tried with word UIA enabled, but there were same results.
any suggestion, how to solve this problem?

thanks in advance.

regards, Jožef


Re: Announcement of “Filed” Status

Gene
 

If you don't have to use the object navigator for other things, you can have it not follow NVDA as it does what it does in applications and windows.  If the information is always in the same place, if you place it there, then read the current line where the navigator is, or the current word, whichever one provides the information most efficiently, you can read the information with one keystroke on every message you move to.  Instructions I can write won't completely match the new interface of NVDA, I use an older version.  But if you need them, I can give you an idea of how to do this.  If you think what I am describing will do what you want, others will probably send instructions.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Tuesday, April 30, 2019 1:07 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Announcement of “Filed” Status

Brian:
Thank you for your response.
When NVDA reports email messages, it reports the display as if it were in a table; however, one does not need to use the table reading commands to arrow up and down through the list of email messages.
Nevertheless, if one does use the table reading commands, from left to right, NVDA announces the following:
Status (read/unread);
Unknown graphic header status;
Graphic, Row 6, column 2;
No Attachment, Column 3;
name of person who sent the message (Column 4);
Subject of the message;
Filing indicator yes/no (Column 6).
So, NVDA properly reports the “filed status” of the email message; it is just that I need to read over to the 6th column (but it takes more like 9 presses of the read cell to the right command.
JAWS reads this “filed status” automatically, right after the subject of the email message.
I am so glad you mentioned the screen scraping.  We are using an email management tool that attempts to predict the client and matter numbers where email messages are to be filed.  I’m sure this program, an Outlook add-in) is supplying this filed status indicator.
Anyway, one of several reasons why I’ve turned to NVDA is that JAWS is so painfully slow.  Having to wait 10 to 15 seconds between thea nnouncement of an email message’s subject is intolerable.
NVDA, by contrast is nearly instantaneous.
> On Apr 29, 2019, at 3:39 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists@...> wrote:
>
> I'm not sure what you  mean by filed status though. I guess one annoying thing is that Jaws does a lot of things differently. It will no longer read the read status of emails yet it does read the filed status. I'm confused. These attributes in Microsoft software seem to have been a bugbear for many years changing a bit and throwing off routines put in to find them and read them.
> One has to remember here that Jaws is still installing a screenscraper driver whereas NVDA does not.
> Brian
> bglists@...
> Sent via blueyonder.
> Please address personal E-mail to:-
> briang1@..., putting 'Brian Gaff'
> in the display name field.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Marquette" <marquette.ed@...>
> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
> Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2019 1:58 PM
> Subject: [nvda] Announcement of “Filed” Status
>
>
> When one reads through the list of email messages in Microsoft Outlook (2013), a number of attributes (probably the correct term is “header fields”) are announced, e.g., “From,” “Received Date,” “Attachment Presence,” and “Size.”
> On our firm’s system, we also have a “Filed Status” indication that either reads “Yes” or “No.”
> If I manually read the cells, Outlook messages are presented in table format), I find that this status indication is presented in what NVDA calls column 6.
> This “Filed” status indication is the second most important feature, for my purposes.
> I have moved it up in Outlook, and JAWS reads it fine.  I cannot, however, get NVDA to read it automatically as I arrow up and down through the inbox. I think I am missing something.
> Any assistance would be appreciated.
>
>
>
>
>
>



Re: Suspicious log when starting Outlook

Felix G.
 

Hi,
yes, the impact is I often have to alt+tab away and back in to get any
meaningful output.
Best,
Felix

Am Di., 30. Apr. 2019 um 12:19 Uhr schrieb Ralf Kefferpuetz
<ralf.kefferpuetz@elra-consulting.de>:


Felix,
Do you have any impact in Outlook when starting up?
I'm wondering if this is not only the normal behavior when NVDA is dealing with the Outlook splash screen during startup...

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Felix G.
Sent: Dienstag, 30. April 2019 10:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Suspicious log when starting Outlook

---------- Forwarded message ---------
Von: Felix G. <constantlyvariable@gmail.com>
Date: Fr., 26. Apr. 2019 um 13:56 Uhr
Subject: Suspicious log when starting Outlook
To: NVDA screen reader development <nvda-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>


Hi,
this is on Win 7 64 bit, NVDA 2019.1.1, when launching Outlook 2007 (yes, I know, this is old).
CPU is quadcore 3,10 GHz, no rocket by today's standards but also no snail.
Could anyone please suggest what this log excerpt indicates? Seems there's a lot of freezing/unfreezing.
The log starts with me pressing enter to launch Outlook from the taskbar.
Best,
Felix

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (13:45:06.487):
Input: kb(desktop):enter
DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (13:45:09.467):
Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 233, in <module>
File "core.pyo", line 519, in main
File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 1003, in Notify
File "core.pyo", line 489, in run
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 897, in pumpAll
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 620, in processGenericWinEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 532, in winEventToNVDAEvent
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 46, in getNVDAObjectFromEvent
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 85, in __call__
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 411, in findOverlayClasses
File "baseObject.pyo", line 47, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyo", line 147, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 807, in _get_IAccessibleRole
File "comtypes\__init__.pyo", line 857, in __call__

DEBUGWARNING - core.CorePump.run (13:45:09.467):
errors in this core pump cycle
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "core.pyo", line 489, in run
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 897, in pumpAll
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 620, in processGenericWinEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 532, in winEventToNVDAEvent
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 46, in getNVDAObjectFromEvent
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 85, in __call__
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 411, in findOverlayClasses
File "baseObject.pyo", line 47, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyo", line 147, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "watchdog.pyo", line 202, in _COMError_init CallCancelled DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (13:45:10.809):
Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 233, in <module>
File "core.pyo", line 519, in main
File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 1003, in Notify
File "core.pyo", line 490, in run
File "queueHandler.pyo", line 86, in pumpAll
File "queueHandler.pyo", line 53, in flushQueue
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 62, in _queueEventCallback
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 155, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 92, in __init__
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 966, in event_gainFocus
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 854, in reportFocus
File "speech.pyo", line 403, in speakObject
File "speech.pyo", line 277, in speakObjectProperties
File "baseObject.pyo", line 47, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyo", line 147, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 912, in _get_keyboardShortcut
File "comtypes\__init__.pyo", line 857, in __call__







Re: Suspicious log when starting Outlook

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

Felix,
Do you have any impact in Outlook when starting up?
I'm wondering if this is not only the normal behavior when NVDA is dealing with the Outlook splash screen during startup...

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Felix G.
Sent: Dienstag, 30. April 2019 10:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Suspicious log when starting Outlook

---------- Forwarded message ---------
Von: Felix G. <constantlyvariable@gmail.com>
Date: Fr., 26. Apr. 2019 um 13:56 Uhr
Subject: Suspicious log when starting Outlook
To: NVDA screen reader development <nvda-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>


Hi,
this is on Win 7 64 bit, NVDA 2019.1.1, when launching Outlook 2007 (yes, I know, this is old).
CPU is quadcore 3,10 GHz, no rocket by today's standards but also no snail.
Could anyone please suggest what this log excerpt indicates? Seems there's a lot of freezing/unfreezing.
The log starts with me pressing enter to launch Outlook from the taskbar.
Best,
Felix

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (13:45:06.487):
Input: kb(desktop):enter
DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (13:45:09.467):
Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 233, in <module>
File "core.pyo", line 519, in main
File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 1003, in Notify
File "core.pyo", line 489, in run
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 897, in pumpAll
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 620, in processGenericWinEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 532, in winEventToNVDAEvent
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 46, in getNVDAObjectFromEvent
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 85, in __call__
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 411, in findOverlayClasses
File "baseObject.pyo", line 47, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyo", line 147, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 807, in _get_IAccessibleRole
File "comtypes\__init__.pyo", line 857, in __call__

DEBUGWARNING - core.CorePump.run (13:45:09.467):
errors in this core pump cycle
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "core.pyo", line 489, in run
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 897, in pumpAll
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 620, in processGenericWinEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 532, in winEventToNVDAEvent
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 46, in getNVDAObjectFromEvent
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 85, in __call__
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 411, in findOverlayClasses
File "baseObject.pyo", line 47, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyo", line 147, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "watchdog.pyo", line 202, in _COMError_init CallCancelled DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (13:45:10.809):
Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 233, in <module>
File "core.pyo", line 519, in main
File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 1003, in Notify
File "core.pyo", line 490, in run
File "queueHandler.pyo", line 86, in pumpAll
File "queueHandler.pyo", line 53, in flushQueue
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 62, in _queueEventCallback
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 155, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 92, in __init__
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 966, in event_gainFocus
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 854, in reportFocus
File "speech.pyo", line 403, in speakObject
File "speech.pyo", line 277, in speakObjectProperties
File "baseObject.pyo", line 47, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyo", line 147, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 912, in _get_keyboardShortcut
File "comtypes\__init__.pyo", line 857, in __call__


Re: Suspicious log when starting Outlook

Felix G.
 

Hi Quentin,
nope, no add-ons here.
All the best,
Felix

Am Di., 30. Apr. 2019 um 11:12 Uhr schrieb Quentin Christensen
<quentin@nvaccess.org>:


Have you got any add-ons running? If you restart NVDA with add-ons disabled, do you still get these entries?

On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 6:25 PM Felix G. <constantlyvariable@gmail.com> wrote:

---------- Forwarded message ---------
Von: Felix G. <constantlyvariable@gmail.com>
Date: Fr., 26. Apr. 2019 um 13:56 Uhr
Subject: Suspicious log when starting Outlook
To: NVDA screen reader development <nvda-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>


Hi,
this is on Win 7 64 bit, NVDA 2019.1.1, when launching Outlook 2007
(yes, I know, this is old).
CPU is quadcore 3,10 GHz, no rocket by today's standards but also no snail.
Could anyone please suggest what this log excerpt indicates? Seems
there's a lot of freezing/unfreezing.
The log starts with me pressing enter to launch Outlook from the taskbar.
Best,
Felix

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (13:45:06.487):
Input: kb(desktop):enter
DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (13:45:09.467):
Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 233, in <module>
File "core.pyo", line 519, in main
File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 1003, in Notify
File "core.pyo", line 489, in run
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 897, in pumpAll
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 620, in processGenericWinEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 532, in winEventToNVDAEvent
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 46, in
getNVDAObjectFromEvent
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 85, in __call__
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 411, in findOverlayClasses
File "baseObject.pyo", line 47, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyo", line 147, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 807, in _get_IAccessibleRole
File "comtypes\__init__.pyo", line 857, in __call__

DEBUGWARNING - core.CorePump.run (13:45:09.467):
errors in this core pump cycle
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "core.pyo", line 489, in run
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 897, in pumpAll
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 620, in processGenericWinEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 532, in winEventToNVDAEvent
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 46, in
getNVDAObjectFromEvent
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 85, in __call__
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 411, in findOverlayClasses
File "baseObject.pyo", line 47, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyo", line 147, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "watchdog.pyo", line 202, in _COMError_init
CallCancelled
DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (13:45:10.809):
Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 233, in <module>
File "core.pyo", line 519, in main
File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 1003, in Notify
File "core.pyo", line 490, in run
File "queueHandler.pyo", line 86, in pumpAll
File "queueHandler.pyo", line 53, in flushQueue
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 62, in _queueEventCallback
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 155, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 92, in __init__
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 966, in event_gainFocus
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 854, in reportFocus
File "speech.pyo", line 403, in speakObject
File "speech.pyo", line 277, in speakObjectProperties
File "baseObject.pyo", line 47, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyo", line 147, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 912, in
_get_keyboardShortcut
File "comtypes\__init__.pyo", line 857, in __call__



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locked Re: NVDA add on's RSS feed.

 

While we are on this (and I know it's not an NVDA thing, just thought I'd ask on this thread):
Is there any way of getting a certain RSS from a website?
For instance I have the www.thisisacool.site.
I want to get the RSS (that is, the link for this RSS), of course assuming this site has one.
Then what should I do to get it?

Cheers,
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Em 28/04/2019 15:14, Robert Kingett disse:

[Edited Message Follows]
[Reason: Included the RSS feed.]

This RSS feed will show you new add ons published but it will not group 
add ons by last updated. To check for updates, get the add on updater.

https://addons.nvda-project.org/index.en.rss

Add ons are posted manually to this list as well. Mods have not integrated the feed into this group, so subscribe to the feed above. 





Re: Suspicious log when starting Outlook

Quentin Christensen
 

Have you got any add-ons running?  If you restart NVDA with add-ons disabled, do you still get these entries?


On Tue, Apr 30, 2019 at 6:25 PM Felix G. <constantlyvariable@...> wrote:
---------- Forwarded message ---------
Von: Felix G. <constantlyvariable@...>
Date: Fr., 26. Apr. 2019 um 13:56 Uhr
Subject: Suspicious log when starting Outlook
To: NVDA screen reader development <nvda-devel@...>


Hi,
this is on Win 7 64 bit, NVDA 2019.1.1, when launching Outlook 2007
(yes, I know, this is old).
CPU is quadcore 3,10 GHz, no rocket by today's standards but also no snail.
Could anyone please suggest what this log excerpt indicates? Seems
there's a lot of freezing/unfreezing.
The log starts with me pressing enter to launch Outlook from the taskbar.
Best,
Felix

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (13:45:06.487):
Input: kb(desktop):enter
DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (13:45:09.467):
Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:
  File "nvda.pyw", line 233, in <module>
  File "core.pyo", line 519, in main
  File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
  File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 1003, in Notify
  File "core.pyo", line 489, in run
  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 897, in pumpAll
  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 620, in processGenericWinEvent
  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 532, in winEventToNVDAEvent
  File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 46, in
getNVDAObjectFromEvent
  File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 85, in __call__
  File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 411, in findOverlayClasses
  File "baseObject.pyo", line 47, in __get__
  File "baseObject.pyo", line 147, in _getPropertyViaCache
  File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 807, in _get_IAccessibleRole
  File "comtypes\__init__.pyo", line 857, in __call__

DEBUGWARNING - core.CorePump.run (13:45:09.467):
errors in this core pump cycle
Traceback (most recent call last):
  File "core.pyo", line 489, in run
  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 897, in pumpAll
  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 620, in processGenericWinEvent
  File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 532, in winEventToNVDAEvent
  File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 46, in
getNVDAObjectFromEvent
  File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 85, in __call__
  File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 411, in findOverlayClasses
  File "baseObject.pyo", line 47, in __get__
  File "baseObject.pyo", line 147, in _getPropertyViaCache
  File "watchdog.pyo", line 202, in _COMError_init
CallCancelled
DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (13:45:10.809):
Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:
  File "nvda.pyw", line 233, in <module>
  File "core.pyo", line 519, in main
  File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
  File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 1003, in Notify
  File "core.pyo", line 490, in run
  File "queueHandler.pyo", line 86, in pumpAll
  File "queueHandler.pyo", line 53, in flushQueue
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 62, in _queueEventCallback
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 155, in executeEvent
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 92, in __init__
  File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
  File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 966, in event_gainFocus
  File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 854, in reportFocus
  File "speech.pyo", line 403, in speakObject
  File "speech.pyo", line 277, in speakObjectProperties
  File "baseObject.pyo", line 47, in __get__
  File "baseObject.pyo", line 147, in _getPropertyViaCache
  File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 912, in
_get_keyboardShortcut
  File "comtypes\__init__.pyo", line 857, in __call__





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Suspicious log when starting Outlook

Felix G.
 

---------- Forwarded message ---------
Von: Felix G. <constantlyvariable@gmail.com>
Date: Fr., 26. Apr. 2019 um 13:56 Uhr
Subject: Suspicious log when starting Outlook
To: NVDA screen reader development <nvda-devel@lists.sourceforge.net>


Hi,
this is on Win 7 64 bit, NVDA 2019.1.1, when launching Outlook 2007
(yes, I know, this is old).
CPU is quadcore 3,10 GHz, no rocket by today's standards but also no snail.
Could anyone please suggest what this log excerpt indicates? Seems
there's a lot of freezing/unfreezing.
The log starts with me pressing enter to launch Outlook from the taskbar.
Best,
Felix

IO - inputCore.InputManager.executeGesture (13:45:06.487):
Input: kb(desktop):enter
DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (13:45:09.467):
Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 233, in <module>
File "core.pyo", line 519, in main
File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 1003, in Notify
File "core.pyo", line 489, in run
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 897, in pumpAll
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 620, in processGenericWinEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 532, in winEventToNVDAEvent
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 46, in
getNVDAObjectFromEvent
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 85, in __call__
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 411, in findOverlayClasses
File "baseObject.pyo", line 47, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyo", line 147, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 807, in _get_IAccessibleRole
File "comtypes\__init__.pyo", line 857, in __call__

DEBUGWARNING - core.CorePump.run (13:45:09.467):
errors in this core pump cycle
Traceback (most recent call last):
File "core.pyo", line 489, in run
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 897, in pumpAll
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 620, in processGenericWinEvent
File "IAccessibleHandler.pyo", line 532, in winEventToNVDAEvent
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 46, in
getNVDAObjectFromEvent
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 85, in __call__
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 411, in findOverlayClasses
File "baseObject.pyo", line 47, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyo", line 147, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "watchdog.pyo", line 202, in _COMError_init
CallCancelled
DEBUGWARNING - watchdog._watcher (13:45:10.809):
Trying to recover from freeze, core stack:
File "nvda.pyw", line 233, in <module>
File "core.pyo", line 519, in main
File "wx\core.pyo", line 2134, in MainLoop
File "gui\__init__.pyo", line 1003, in Notify
File "core.pyo", line 490, in run
File "queueHandler.pyo", line 86, in pumpAll
File "queueHandler.pyo", line 53, in flushQueue
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 62, in _queueEventCallback
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 155, in executeEvent
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 92, in __init__
File "eventHandler.pyo", line 100, in next
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 966, in event_gainFocus
File "NVDAObjects\__init__.pyo", line 854, in reportFocus
File "speech.pyo", line 403, in speakObject
File "speech.pyo", line 277, in speakObjectProperties
File "baseObject.pyo", line 47, in __get__
File "baseObject.pyo", line 147, in _getPropertyViaCache
File "NVDAObjects\IAccessible\__init__.pyo", line 912, in
_get_keyboardShortcut
File "comtypes\__init__.pyo", line 857, in __call__


Re: Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

 

Wonderful. Keep up the good work! :)

Cheers,
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Sent from a galaxy far, far away.

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Em 29/04/2019 06:45, hurrikennyandopo ... disse:

Hi,


Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net (Please visit the section called recently updated on the accessibilitycentral.net homepage to see what is new on the site).

Added the Microsoft Edge chromium based browser to the browser list on the NVDA road tested programs page;
Added a page called Using Kindle for PC with NVDA off the NVDA tutorials for other programs page;

Added a page called Using the ribbon interface in Windows via the keyboard (Courtesy of Brian Vogel) off the NVDA tutorials for other programs page;

Added where to locate the NVDA development snapshots page for people wanting to help test out the snapshots and/or check out new features to the NVDA screen reader related resources page;

NVDACon2019 -??NVDA's annual conference online.

The question has been asked...Which weekend/s in August would suit most people for NVDACon2019?????

Please take two minutes and access the survey at??https://doodle.com/poll/sd5ubgyrbhibm5bw

??To complete the survey, please don???t use Firefox because the survey is not completely accessible in that browser.

Select the weekend or weekends that suit you best!

??Hope to see you all at NVDACon2019!


On 17/03/2019 10:22 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi,

Recently updated: on the Accessibilitycentral website...Added the Brave browser to the NVDA road tested programs page http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda_road_tested_programs.html; Added essential lessons from NVDA development basics by Jospeh Lee to the NVDA screen reader related resources page http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/NVDA%20screen%20reader%20related%20resources; Added Image describer addon and a link to the website to the NVDA addons page http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/NVDA%20addons.html

Gene NZ

On 11/03/2019 6:04 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi guys,

The following information comes from the heading called Recently updated on my accessibilitycentral.net website... This information is for the NVDA related material.

Recently updated: Added a tutorial on how to add a Humanware BrailleNote to NVDA as well as a section called Add-on updater http://www.accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20audio%20tutorials.html.?? Christchurch City Library announces the installation of the NVDA screen reader on 390 of their public terminals across their network of 19 libraries. To find out which software is available on the CCL network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available?? https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884?? How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers?? https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/?? Added a section called Changes to navigation of the Emoji panel in Windows 10 version 1809. How to add an emoji in Windows 10 with NVDA (on the NVDA tutorials for Windows 10 page) http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20windows%2010.html


Also, added playing your music/movies to a Google device (off the how to use the VLC media player with the NVDA screen reader page).

Inputting with MuseScore; Using your Wordpress dashboard with NVDA; Added an audio tutorial for Skype for web, using the NVDA screen reader http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html;


Gene NZ




On 10/10/2018 9:13 AM, David Moore wrote:

Hi Gene!

Thanks for letting us know!

Have a great one!

David Moore

??

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

??

From: hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: Tuesday, October 9, 2018 2:53 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

??

Hi guys

??

Just to let you know the web site has come back on line it seemed it was a very series crash on there end. it may go up and down while they repopulate all the web sites on that server.

??

Hopefully nothing like this happens again for a very long long?? ..... time again.

??

It is dated the 23rd of September so is the last update that was drop boxed to the list.

??


Gene nz

On 2/10/2018 10:14 AM, David Moore wrote:

Hi Gene and all!

I just unzipped it with 7Zip!

It works very well.

David Moore

??

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

??

From: hurrikennyandopo ...
Sent: Monday, October 1, 2018 4:36 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

??

Hi

??

The website has been zipped you will need a program to unzip it. You can also do it with windows explorer but may be better to make a folder then put the files into it that is easy to find. Then it is a matter of just going to the index file with in the folder and pressing the enter key on it and use it like normal. As long as people have internet access they should be able to access audio files?? etc.

??

There may be another tutorial been added on later this week so will update the link to the drop box account then.

??

I will let people know then.

??

The drop box link is https://www.dropbox.com/s/fh0ke305t6afduw/Accessibility%20Central%20Website.zip?dl=0

Gene nz

??

??

??

??

??

On 2/10/2018 9:11 AM, The Wolf wrote:

can you please dropbox me the files?

the website that is?

On 10/1/2018 1:07 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi guys

??

As you probably have noticed Accessibilitycentral.net has not be accessible and the following message comes up when you try to access one of the pages Website is temporarily down due to file system failure. Recovery is in progress, please check back later. Sorry for inconveniences

.

??

The people we host with were alerted when i first noticed it and it has to be fixed on there end. I do not know when it will be back up but hopefully it is ASAP.

??

I guess this is maybe what you get some times when you host with a free provider? with no adds and only have to pay for the domain name.

??

It sounds pretty serious like the server hard drive took a dive?

??

If any one wants to access the material on it at present I can zip it up and drop box it until it comes back on line.

This will only be the website files not the audio files as every one has access to the internet mostly.

??

You will then need to unzip it and put it into a folder with the files. Then it is a matter of just accessing the index file for the website.

??

I might again even look at other options for hosting.

??

Let us know and can drop box to the list.

??

Gene nz

??

??

On 5/09/2018 8:11 AM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:

Hi guys

??

Pages recently updated
Recently updated: Added a tutorial called The basics of making a ticket for NVACCESS on the NVDA audio tutorials page

under trouble shooting.

Gene nz

??

??

On 9/08/2018 5:14 AM, Inam Uddin via Groups.Io wrote:

Actually there are 5 different menues in Skype Electron.

All the menues access with alt key.

Alt+e for edit menue.

Alt+f for file menue.

Alt+h for help menue.

Alt+t for tool menue.

And alt+v for view menue respectively.

For details, go to those menues and discover how much those menues are accessible.

I???m very sorry to let you know that most of us do not like to spend sometimes to explore new things and want to stick with old technology.

At the end all I can is ???No gain without pain???!

With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

Charlsdarwin1

??

??

You can contact me via gmail:
inamuddin09@...

Inamuddin.ronaque@...

outlook:
inam092@...

yahoo:
inamuddin2010@...

Add my Skype ID:
charlsdarwin1
Meet me on facebook:
www.facebook.com/inamuddin786

Follow me on my twitter ID:
www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1

Call me on my cell numbers:
+92-300-2227598??

+92-334-3348409

??

??

From: Hareth
Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 3:07 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

??

The Skype support page lags these hotkeys for Skype 8:

ALT plus F.

for a menu contains some features or options

ALT plus E

For the edit menu.

ALT plus T

for the tools menu.

ALT plus H

For the help menu.

??

??

??

On 8/7/18, Inam Uddin via Groups.Io <charlsdarwin1969@...> wrote:

> This key command will work for?? both the things!

> With regards from Inamuddin with the Skype ID:

> Charlsdarwin1

>??

>??

> You can contact me via gmail:

> inamuddin09@...

> Inamuddin.ronaque@...

> outlook:

> inam092@...

> yahoo:

> inamuddin2010@...

> Add my Skype ID:

> charlsdarwin1

> Meet me on facebook:

> www.facebook.com/inamuddin786

> Follow me on my twitter ID:

> www.twitter.com/charlsdarwin1

> Call me on my cell numbers:

> +92-300-2227598

> +92-334-3348409

>??

>??

> From: Gene New Zealand

> Sent: Tuesday, August 7, 2018 7:40 AM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

>??

> Hi

>??

> Is that not to make a call? I would have to go back and check when i checked

> the short cuts i did not see any to answer. so this one works to answer a

> call?

>??

> I wonder if any of the old short cuts would work? at moment i just get it to

> automatically answer it is alot easier.

>??

> Gene nz

>??

>??

> On 8/7/2018 12:01 PM, David Moore wrote:

> Hi Gene!

> Try CTRL+Shift+P

> It worked for me in Skype 8.25 as well as the Win10 app of Skype!!

> David Moore

>??

> Sent from Mail for Windows 10

>??

> From: Gene New Zealand

> Sent: Monday, August 6, 2018 5:34 PM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Subject: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

>??

> Hi

>??

> I have not gone through all the short cuts for skype either I copied the

> list from them and tried a few of them but not all. it just might be a focus

> thing with nvda not speaking that shorcut when preformed?

>??

> Gene nz

>??

>??

> On 8/7/2018 9:24 AM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

> Hi

>??

> I just had a quick look under the skype 8 short cut keys hopefully i googled

> the right list for skype 8 for desk top it mentions short cut keys for other

> stuff in skype. the list can be found here at

> https://support.skype.com/en/faq/FA12025/what-are-hotkeys-and-how-do-i-use-them-in-skype

> At the moment so i do not have to be in the screen under the calling section

> i think it is under your profile you can check the boxes to have it

> automatically answer in coming calls and videos that is what i have done at

> present.

>??

> I thought also some one on this list said there was another short cut that

> worked but until it can be confirmed in this version by some one else i then

> will add it. It when i had a quick look did not mention a short cut for

> answer in coming calls or video calls may be still to be added?

>??

> I do not mind the automatically answer part saves rushing and trying to

> figure which part of the screen to be in. It would of made sense to have

> left the old short cut keys from skype 7 in it.

>??

>??

> Gene nz

>??

> On 8/6/2018 11:30 PM, Dr. arvind singh brar wrote:

> hi,

> could you mention the shortcut key to answer a skype c

> This message is transmitted on 100% recycled electrons.

>??

>??

> Homepage;

> http://tip.simpl.com/

>??

> On 6 Aug 2018, at 16.02, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...>

> wrote:

> Hi,

>??

>??

> RE: Recently added on accessibilitycentral.net

>??

> Recently added a tutorial (both written and audio) for Skype 8 desktop for

> Windows, using the NVDA screen reader.

> A link to the page can be found below:

> http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html

>??

>??

> Regards,

> Gene NZ

>??

>??

> On 7/11/2018 11:19 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

> Hi,

>??

> RE: Recently added on accessibilitycentral.net

>??

> The following tutorials have been added to the NVDA audio tutorials page:

> How to completely uninstall NVDA from your computer

> Addon troubleshooting

>??

> A link to the page can be found below:

> http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20audio%20tutorials.html

>??

> Regards,

> Gene NZ

>??

> On 5/31/2018 9:27 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

> Hi,

>??

> RE: Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

>??

> I have added the following to all NVDA related pages - For a variety of NVDA

> related resources from around the world,

> please visit the??NVDA screen reader related resources page at the following

> link NVDA screen reader related resources

>??

> Regards,

> Gene NZ

> On 5/6/2018 12:43 PM, Adriani Botez wrote:

> Dear Gene,

>??

> this is grat idea. It will be helpful for many people. Now I hope google

> translate will improve more in the near future.

>??

>??

> Best

> Adriani

>??

>??

> Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Gene New

> Zealand

> Gesendet: Samstag, 28. April 2018 07:56

> An: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Betreff: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

>??

> Hi Adriani

>??

> I have just added a link to the google translate page for other languages on

> the main web page.

> You can jump down by letter H to its heading then go down to the link then

> press the enter key where it will take you to another page.

>??

> For some reason i could not put in a plug in to do it and it wanted it on

> every page so have gone down this other route. There is a heading that says

> some thing like translate this website to another language and a link to the

> translate page. The default language is english and the website main page is

> already in the edit section to translate. it is then a matter of changing it

> to another language then having it translate to it. Just after the language

> combo box you want it to go to is where you can read it in another language.

> it also seems if you click on one of the links the next page is also

> translated but only on that page i have it pointing to off my website.

> You will see what i mean when it is translated.

>??

>??

>??

> it may help? for people where english is not there first language like

> mine.

>??

> Not sure if the steps on what to do is enough or should i add a little more

> or hopefully it is clear enough on what to do.

>??

> Gene nz

>??

>??

>??

> On 4/13/2018 5:41 AM, Adriani Botez wrote:

> Dear Gene,

>??

> thank you for your great job. This is very important for the whole

> community. I have forwarded your links to the german community and in the

> translations group.

>??

> I hope I will find some time during next week to provide you some

> suggestions.

>??

> I propose to split the related sources in ???development sources??? and ???user

> specific sources???. In this way we could add links to github and bitbucket as

> well.

>??

> Best

> Adriani

>??

>??

>??

> Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Gene New

> Zealand

> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 12. April 2018 10:10

> An: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Betreff: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

>??

> Hi Adriani

>??

> There is a under construction page that went up tonight for nvda screen

> reader related resources off the main website at

> http://www.accessibilitycentral.net

> When more resources get added there may be links off the nvda related web

> pages on my website that point to that page.

>??

> I have a rough idea of categories for the resources.

> These can be changed?? or added to.

>??

> Gene nz

>??

> On 3/25/2018 5:02 PM, Gene New Zealand wrote:

> Hi Adriani

>??

> Yep I am looking at doing a page for nvda screen reader related resources

> which i will add it into which will be a separate web page. In that page I

> will break it down into say audio resources, video resources maybe nvda

> blogs? about using nvda? Not quite sure of other sections if i do and would

> be more a point to page but not jeffs one.

> Even though he had a good site.

>??

> I am guessing we do?? have links to other nvda resources like on you tube etc

> but not in the one place.

>??

> Gene nz

>??

>??

>??

>??

>??

>??

> On 3/5/2018 9:22 PM, Adriani Botez wrote:

> Gene,

>??

> thanks for including that. I wonder if Joseph???s new tutorials set ???welcome

> to NVDA 2018??? can be included as well?

>??

> Best

> Adriani

>??

>??

> Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Gene New

> Zealand

> Gesendet: Montag, 5. M??rz 2018 03:21

> An: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Betreff: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

>??

> Hi Adriani

>??

> I was not sure if it worked on XP as when the directions went up i think at

> that time it had been tested on 7,8 and 10.

>??

> Would the directions from 10 also work on XP? to get into it as i used to do

> it the other way that was posted.

>??

> I have not any XP machines here now to test with.

>??

> The directions you gave are on the nvda audio tutorials page under trouble

> shooting.

>??

> Gene nz

>??

>??

> On 3/4/2018 11:45 AM, Adriani Botez wrote:

> Hello,

>??

> we had this conversation some months ago, here is a gegistry file which

> activates your sound driver in safe mode. It has been tested with XP as well

> and it works perfectly. NVDA can be used in safe mode after activating this

> file:

>??

> https://www.dropbox.com/s/ebkqst6n393i6jk/Activate_Sound_in_Win10_Safe_Mode.zip?dl=1

>??

>??

> Best

> Adriani

>??

> Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Gene New

> Zealand

> Gesendet: Samstag, 3. M??rz 2018 19:47

> An: nvda@nvda.groups.io

> Betreff: Re: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

>??

> Hi

>??

> the old way to get into safe mode in windows 10 can be found here at

> https://www.lifewire.com/how-to-boot-to-safe-mode-with-command-prompt-2624541

>??

> You will need a pair of eyes to do this plus you might not even have sound.

>??

> So am guessing you will need to burrow some eyes and give them directions to

> fix the problem.

>??

> Gene nz

>??

>??

> On 3/4/2018 2:58 AM, zahra wrote:

> hi gene thanks so much for your great work of you and other members.

> how can i access safe mode in windows xp with nvda?

> does it have solution for users of xp?

> thanks so much every one and God bless you all!

>??

> On 3/3/18, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@...> wrote:

> HI guys

>??

> Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

>??

> RECENTLY UPDATED:

>??

>??

> Added a link to all NVDA related pages for the new NVDA promotional video.

>??

> Added a link to the addons page for the NVDA Add-on developers guide which

> has been updated for 2018.1

>??

> Added a review of the Samsung UA50MU6100SXNZ television to the podcasts and

> product reviews page

> http://accessibilitycentral.net/podcasts%20and%20product%20reviews.html

>??

> NEW:

>??

> Added a page called Skype Trusted Microsoft Store App (off the NVDA

> tutorials for other programs page)

> http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20other%20programs.html

> as well as a page called Using Windows Media Player with NVDA.

>??

> Gene NZ

>??

> On 12/13/2017 12:59 PM, David Moore wrote:

> Hi Gene NZ!

> Thanks so much for what you do for us!

> God bless!

> David Moore

> Sent from Mail<https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows

> 10

>??

> From: Gene New Zealand<mailto:hurrikennyandopo@...>

> Sent: Tuesday, December 12, 2017 3:01 AM

> To: nvda@nvda.groups.io<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>

> Subject: [nvda] Recently updated on accessibilitycentral.net

>??

>??

> Hi guys

>??

> Pages recently updated

> Recently updated: Added links to NVDA Guides on all NVDA related pages

>??

> New: Added a tutorial How to access safe mode in Windows and exit it with

> the NVDA screen reader by Hareth?? and co to the NVDA audio tutorials page

> under the troubleshooting section

> http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20audio%20tutorials.html Added a

> tutorial (by Gene Asner) called Navigating ribbons in WordPad (to the NVDA

> tutorials learning the basics page)

> http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20learning%20the%20basics.html

> Added a tutorial called Using the Ribbon interface in Windows via the

> keyboard (by Brian Vogel) to the NVDA tutorials for Windows 10 page.

> http://accessibilitycentral.net/nvda%20tutorials%20for%20windows%2010.html

>??

> Gene NZ

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> location) is near to you please visit

> http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa

> People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you,

> please

> visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The

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> http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa

> People's Network Kaharoa). To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please

> visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The

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Re: not able to start NVDA using shortcut Ctrl + alt + space

 

I don't know if you sorted it out as I haven't seen any answer from you regarding what others have said.
So here I go with my suggestion.
Even if it has been deleted, shortcut changed or whatever, it's easy peasy to go there on the shortcut properties (assuming it is still there) and set it up again, manually of course.
In case the shortcut itself have desappeared, go to the NVDA's  folder, usually \Program Files (X86)\NVDA and then recreate the shortcut from there.
This is assuming you have NVDA installed, not portable. Otherwise I don't think you'd be using this shortcut thing anyway.

Hth

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Marcio AKA Starboy

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Em 29/04/2019 07:22, Mohd. Ahtesham Shaikh disse:

[Edited Message Follows]
[Reason: wrong subject: It should be ctrl + alt +N and not (space)]

Hi all,
As the subject suggests, I am unable to start or restart NVDA using the shortcut key combinations.
Ctrl+ alt + N
Any particular reason you guys think is preventing me from doing so?

Please respond.
This is on my office computer.

Regards,


Mohd. Ahtesham
From India
Using Windows 8.1 at home and windows 10 pro in office


Re: NVDA and thunderbird

Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
 

I have a recollection of this actually being an issue on the tracker. It was fixed for a while but then something changed in Tbird. Its been a while since I've use the software since it seems even with previews etc off to be quite 'soggy' in its response to things.
Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Brice Mijares" <bricemijares@att.net>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, April 29, 2019 11:01 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and thunderbird


So, my problem isn't something new? If not, I'm losing it faster than I had thought! Thank for the info.

On 4/29/2019 2:51 PM, hurrikennyandopo ... wrote:
Hi


if you are opening it in a new window it will read it out 3 times but if you press the enter key on the message then use the say all command you will only get it the once.


Some people will use the up arrow key but then it only reads the first line or they may have it set to skim reading.


Others will open it in a new tab for there message.


The easiest is just use the say all command after you have opened the message quickly.


Gene nz


On 30/04/2019 9:42 AM, Brice Mijares wrote:
Within the last week or so using latest version of Thunderbird, when hitting enter on the message, NVDA repeats the subject line at least 3 times. Is anyone else experiencing this behavior?
latest windows ten Essentials.
windows version: Windows 10Ver1809 (64-bit) build 17763.437


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Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following linkhttp://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following linkhttp://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda

To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/

To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: Announcement of “Filed” Status

Ed Marquette
 

Brian:
Thank you for your response.
When NVDA reports email messages, it reports the display as if it were in a table; however, one does not need to use the table reading commands to arrow up and down through the list of email messages.
Nevertheless, if one does use the table reading commands, from left to right, NVDA announces the following:
Status (read/unread);
Unknown graphic header status;
Graphic, Row 6, column 2;
No Attachment, Column 3;
name of person who sent the message (Column 4);
Subject of the message;
Filing indicator yes/no (Column 6).
So, NVDA properly reports the “filed status” of the email message; it is just that I need to read over to the 6th column (but it takes more like 9 presses of the read cell to the right command.
JAWS reads this “filed status” automatically, right after the subject of the email message.
I am so glad you mentioned the screen scraping. We are using an email management tool that attempts to predict the client and matter numbers where email messages are to be filed. I’m sure this program, an Outlook add-in) is supplying this filed status indicator.
Anyway, one of several reasons why I’ve turned to NVDA is that JAWS is so painfully slow. Having to wait 10 to 15 seconds between thea nnouncement of an email message’s subject is intolerable.
NVDA, by contrast is nearly instantaneous.

On Apr 29, 2019, at 3:39 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io <bglists=blueyonder.co.uk@groups.io> wrote:

I'm not sure what you mean by filed status though. I guess one annoying thing is that Jaws does a lot of things differently. It will no longer read the read status of emails yet it does read the filed status. I'm confused. These attributes in Microsoft software seem to have been a bugbear for many years changing a bit and throwing off routines put in to find them and read them.
One has to remember here that Jaws is still installing a screenscraper driver whereas NVDA does not.
Brian
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Ed Marquette" <marquette.ed@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, April 28, 2019 1:58 PM
Subject: [nvda] Announcement of “Filed” Status


When one reads through the list of email messages in Microsoft Outlook (2013), a number of attributes (probably the correct term is “header fields”) are announced, e.g., “From,” “Received Date,” “Attachment Presence,” and “Size.”
On our firm’s system, we also have a “Filed Status” indication that either reads “Yes” or “No.”
If I manually read the cells, Outlook messages are presented in table format), I find that this status indication is presented in what NVDA calls column 6.
This “Filed” status indication is the second most important feature, for my purposes.
I have moved it up in Outlook, and JAWS reads it fine. I cannot, however, get NVDA to read it automatically as I arrow up and down through the inbox. I think I am missing something.
Any assistance would be appreciated.