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Re: when typing message, keys do not speak when I type
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
And this is definitely the latest version of nvda, the win 10 essentials and windows itself is it?
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I have seen lag before in this rather rubbish program (my opinion) but not nothing at all. I never use it if on a machine running 10, its very crude. Do you perhaps get similar issues on edit boxes in online forms? Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "marvin kotler" <m.kotler53@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 7:05 PM Subject: [nvda] tried that, no luck I tried that, the keys still do not speak; thanks for the suggestion; anything else? marv Sent from Mail for Windows 10
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Re: Custom Hot Key Disappears On NVDA Update
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
Use quotes.
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Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Richard Wells" <richwels@gmx.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 5:03 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] Custom Hot Key Disappears On NVDA Update Joseph: running %programfiles%\nvda\nvda.exe -r results in the following error: Windows cannot find 'C:\Program'. Make sure you typed the name correctly, and then try again. On 5/1/2019 10:17 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:Hi,
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Re: Custom Hot Key Disappears On NVDA Update
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
Are you saying that if you duplicate the desktop shortcut and use a different name for it and a different letter nvda changes it? That seems not to happen here. The trick is to make sure its not called the same name. Call it start nvda or whatever and simply copy over the bit from the field that starts nvda to the new shortcut, and then it matters not what it does to the other one. I believe you might be able to delete it but I'm not sure if it stays deleted through an update, but your new one should always still work.
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This way you can do clever stuff like run a batch file to say, grab a log and restart with it displayed and all that sort of thing. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Richard Wells" <richwels@gmx.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 4:14 PM Subject: [nvda] Custom Hot Key Disappears On NVDA Update My hot key disappears each time I update NVDA. The reason for this is, I don't use the desktop shortcut and I also use a different hot key than the default. I prefer to assign the hot key ALT+CONTROL+V and I use the LNK found at C:\programdata\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\NVDA to do this. It would be nice if the NVDA install/update was smart enough to honor custom configurations like mine.
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Re: question from a new NVDA user
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
Yes the problem often with the illegal hacked version is that it does do some very peculiar stuff. Best avoided. On the level issue it sounds like you did not save the settings after setting them to me. I think a few minutes spent in the preferences tab moving around to see what is there and how it all works will solve a lot of these issues for you. Nothing like playing with the thing until you become happy.
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As has been said here a lot of this is in the help sections and I fully realise that if you cannot hear what is going on its as useful as a chocolate teapot, but its a catch 22 situation so please have a play and don't get disheartened there is logic there! Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Gene" <gsasner@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 5:11 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] question from a new NVDA user Your discussion of the version of Eloquence you are using indicates that it is one of the illegal add-on versions. The list doesn't support illegal software and won't answer questions about how to use it. As for your other question, open the voice settings. You can use control NVDA key v. Tab around and you will get to a combo box where you adjust the setting for the sound card that should be used by the voice. Set it for the one you want. I'll add that what I said is not supporting or helping with an illegal add-on because what I explained applies to any voice you use. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Troy Burnham Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 9:11 AM To: NVDA Subject: [nvda] question from a new NVDA user Hi all, I've had NVDA installed for a while now but I'm just getting around to possibly starting to use it. I've been using jaws for years and when it speaks it comes through my external speakers that are plugged into my laptop via the USB port because the earphone jack doesn't work, but I started NVDA yesterday and the voice was coming through the laptop's internal speaker, and it was very low as well. How do I fix this so it comes through my external speakers as well? Btw strangely enough, I opened the NVDA preferences and changed the Eloquence voice I was using and it immediately got louder although it was still coming through the laptop and not the external speakers. Also, after making changes in preferences I hit the okay button but it didn't take me out of preferences. I got out of preferences by hitting alt-f4 but when I did that the volume of the voice went back down again. One more thing, when I started NVDA yesterday the volume was so low that I couldn't really hear it but it sounded like it was offering me an NVDA update. I have no idea if it was installed though because since I couldn't really hear what it was saying I couldn't really tell what option I chose when it offered me the update. Any help with any of this will be greatly appreciated. Troy
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Re: NVDA and Combo Boxes, Agreements?
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
Weeeell, its all down to how you use the system is it not? If you have never been sighted ten I find most have it on as its easier, but if like me you were sighted once having each on a new line can be confusing. It really depends on how well the page was designed though. Some leave no space between them and this can be fiddly to get to work out which combo box or whatever active control it is, is in play.
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Another annoyance is that often sites mix normal combos with the ones that will jump out as soon as you start to change them. of course you can get around this with pressing extra keys as you cursor, but its bad design. On the issue of licence accepting. this is an ongoing issue both online and in some installers. I find often one has to resort to screen navigation to find the individual buttons for accept and not accept. Another bit of bad design. My current annoyance is Capchars with pictures, but that is a whole other subject so I will not talk about it here. Its bad enough that forums seem to not use headers or other easy to navigate devices these days which makes them almost unusable if you want to use them quickly. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Andre Fisher" <andrefisher729@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 9:32 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Combo Boxes, Agreements? Hi. One would argue though, that separating links and other controls on their own line is a feature rather than how a screen reader (which should try and lay out elements on a page similarly to how a sighted person sees it) should operate. Persons that normally advocate for this change are previous users of other screen readers, but I doubt that is enough to justify the change.
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Re: blank lines in outlook 2016
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
I'm not sure what that is, but there are several ways to send rich text emails. You can encode them in base 64 so high bits are sent and displayed against 7 bit for normal plain text or you can send them html coded and this also has mark up and of course often the graphics are in fact sent as kind of invisible attaches and the little graphics displayed in the right places by the mark up.
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It might be an idea to turn off automatically download graphics and see if that works. Some emails even have the audacity to go to web servers to get the graphics which in my view poses a security risk. I have them turned off. I'm assuming the newer versions of Outlook still have this ability. You still get the alt tags, and the page is much faster to download and display as well. Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field.
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From: "Ralf Kefferpuetz" <ralf.kefferpuetz@elra-consulting.de> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 3:28 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] blank lines in outlook 2016 I got this crashes as well on some messages, most of them contain the official twitter icon in a signature. I tested it
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Re: blank lines in outlook 2016
Brian's Mail list account <bglists@...>
Or makes a little noise of a discreet nature instead?
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From: "Gene" <gsasner@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 9:11 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] blank lines in outlook 2016 Perhaps it should be suggested that a setting be adopted that would skip blank lines. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 2:56 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] blank lines in outlook 2016 If you want to locate bits to cut and paste as I do all the time for scripts for readers the blank line can become just a little annoying! Brian bglists@blueyonder.co.uk Sent via blueyonder. Please address personal E-mail to:- briang1@blueyonder.co.uk, putting 'Brian Gaff' in the display name field. ----- Original Message ----- From: "Gene" <gsasner@gmail.com> To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 2:21 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] blank lines in outlook 2016 Why are you down arrowing through the message? Do you have to do so for some reason? If you use read to end, no blank lines will be spoken. Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Sam Bushman Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 7:26 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: [nvda] blank lines in outlook 2016 Hi All, I have two main problems with outlook 2016 - the 32bit version that you can download and install from office 365. 1.. I get blank line over and over when arrowing through messages. Is there a way to ignore / compress more than one blank line in a row? 2.. Often the outlook crashes and restarts. This only happens with NVDA. I have briefed several on this list before and have sent in logs etc. Does this crashing on certain messages happen to anyone else? If I view the message by either looking at it from a forward or a reply it doesn't crash. Thanks so much for any input. Sam
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Re: not able to start NVDA using shortcut Ctrl + alt + space
Mohd. Ahtesham Shaikh
This is a new computer
While installatioon, I unchecked the option to show shortcut on the desktop. But how can it affect the hot key function. However, now how can I make the hot key work? -- Mohd. Ahtesham From India Using Windows 8.1 at home and windows 10 pro in office
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Re: Reaching the comments' section on YouTube video
Stephen
You can't post video comments, you can only read them.
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Re: playing music on this new laptop
Arlene
, I’ve turned it off for some time. My friend’s brother noticed it when he played music on it a few days ago. I only had this computer for 2 months.
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From: Gene
Sent: May 1, 2019 9:30 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] playing music on this new laptop
I don't know what is causing the screen-reader to come from one side and the music from the other, in that case.
Have you tried the usual possible remedy of rebooting?
When did the problem begin? You might try running a restore point from before that time. Aside from that, I'm not sure if I have other suggestions.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Arlene Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 11:00 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] playing music on this new laptop
Gene: No, the speakers are built into the computer. I don’t have usb speakers.
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From: Gene
Are the speakers USB speakers? What happens if they are, if you disconnect them from the computer and connect them again, in other words, unplug the USB plug and plug it in again?
While the speakers are unplugged, is sound heard through the internal speakers as it should be?
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Arlene Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] playing music on this new laptop
Another thing I forgot was my friend Max who drives Handy dart he played the Foo fighters All my life and he too said it came through one speaker and NVDA came through the other speaker. Only the right speaker plays the music. He thinks I should get a Bluetooth speaker. Otherwise I’ll blow the speakers. This is an Acer laptop and I have realtec speakers if this is a help.
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From: Arlene via Groups.Io
Hi list: Arlene here. I tried to fix the balance on my new laptop. On the right speaker I can hear my music. On the left speaker I hear NVDA coming through. I want to hear music on both speakers. I can get NVDA to speak through both the speakers. I tried to balance the music on the left speaker. But the music will not move to the left speaker. How does one do that. I did see where you can have it set to default Microsoft sound. Shell I do that and see what happens? My room mate’s brother played his black Sabith and he discovered that only the right speaker played the music. Do I need to get a Bluetooth speaker? Or do I set it back to Microsoft default sound or whatever it was I did see. I have realtec speakers if that is a help. Sorry for all my rambling. I had this computer since February 27th.
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Re: playing music on this new laptop
Gene
I don't know what is causing the screen-reader to
come from one side and the music from the other, in that case.
Have you tried the usual possible remedy of
rebooting?
When did the problem begin? You might try
running a restore point from before that time. Aside from that, I'm not
sure if I have other suggestions.
Gene
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From: Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 11:00 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] playing music on this new
laptop Gene: No, the speakers are built into the computer. I don’t have usb speakers.
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From: Gene
Are the speakers USB speakers? What happens if they are, if you disconnect them from the computer and connect them again, in other words, unplug the USB plug and plug it in again?
While the speakers are unplugged, is sound heard through the internal speakers as it should be?
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Arlene Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] playing music on this new laptop
Another thing I forgot was my friend Max who drives Handy dart he played the Foo fighters All my life and he too said it came through one speaker and NVDA came through the other speaker. Only the right speaker plays the music. He thinks I should get a Bluetooth speaker. Otherwise I’ll blow the speakers. This is an Acer laptop and I have realtec speakers if this is a help.
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From: Arlene via Groups.Io
Hi list: Arlene here. I tried to fix the balance on my new laptop. On the right speaker I can hear my music. On the left speaker I hear NVDA coming through. I want to hear music on both speakers. I can get NVDA to speak through both the speakers. I tried to balance the music on the left speaker. But the music will not move to the left speaker. How does one do that. I did see where you can have it set to default Microsoft sound. Shell I do that and see what happens? My room mate’s brother played his black Sabith and he discovered that only the right speaker played the music. Do I need to get a Bluetooth speaker? Or do I set it back to Microsoft default sound or whatever it was I did see. I have realtec speakers if that is a help. Sorry for all my rambling. I had this computer since February 27th.
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using the spellcheck in chrome
tina sohl <tinabir80@...>
Hi. I'm pretty new to NVDA. i'M STARTING TO PLAY WITH IT MORE,
ESPECIALLLY WHEN USING CHROME, ANYWAY, wHEN typing a message and neehding to fix your spelling, how do you use the spellchecker? I saw somethhing about using google's suggestions, but couldn't find the suggestions or how to put the corrections in to my document. How do I dothis? thanks Tina
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Re: playing music on this new laptop
Arlene
Gene: No, the speakers are built into the computer. I don’t have usb speakers.
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From: Gene
Sent: May 1, 2019 12:47 PM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] playing music on this new laptop
Are the speakers USB speakers? What happens if they are, if you disconnect them from the computer and connect them again, in other words, unplug the USB plug and plug it in again?
While the speakers are unplugged, is sound heard through the internal speakers as it should be?
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Arlene Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 1:19 PM Subject: Re: [nvda] playing music on this new laptop
Another thing I forgot was my friend Max who drives Handy dart he played the Foo fighters All my life and he too said it came through one speaker and NVDA came through the other speaker. Only the right speaker plays the music. He thinks I should get a Bluetooth speaker. Otherwise I’ll blow the speakers. This is an Acer laptop and I have realtec speakers if this is a help.
Sent from Mail for Windows 10
From: Arlene via Groups.Io
Hi list: Arlene here. I tried to fix the balance on my new laptop. On the right speaker I can hear my music. On the left speaker I hear NVDA coming through. I want to hear music on both speakers. I can get NVDA to speak through both the speakers. I tried to balance the music on the left speaker. But the music will not move to the left speaker. How does one do that. I did see where you can have it set to default Microsoft sound. Shell I do that and see what happens? My room mate’s brother played his black Sabith and he discovered that only the right speaker played the music. Do I need to get a Bluetooth speaker? Or do I set it back to Microsoft default sound or whatever it was I did see. I have realtec speakers if that is a help. Sorry for all my rambling. I had this computer since February 27th.
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Re: Python ide
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Hi
After that you can press Alt+F1 to open the
settings panel, then search for accessibility at the search box, and find and
press spacebar to turn on this feature. I'm busy now, and I just did it for once
so may be I didn't remember the correct steps to setup. Tell me and the list if
you have problem with setting up VS code.
HTH
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Re: NVDA and Combo Boxes, Agreements?
Gene
That may be one idea behind it but I don't think it
is an important one. the screen is still organized very differently.
I think the main reason it was provided is that on pages such as web discussion
forms, it is often much easier to use them when screen layout is used.
I believe that in most cases, it is easier to have
each link and control appear on its own line.
As to why you found Wikipedia more intuitive, and
why you said that it took longer to read the page when screen layout is off, I'd
have to know how you work with the page.
The last point in my last message has nothing to do
with the Internet. I'm illustrating that having a screen-reader display or
read text as a sighted person sees it isn't automatically desirable in and of
itself.
Gene
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From: Andre Fisher
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 6:18 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Combo Boxes,
Agreements? As it relates to your last point, I'm lost as to the purpose of what you are saying. Now, note that I said that NVDA Tries to lay out the information similarly to how sighted persons see it on a page. Screen reader users and sighted folk, obviously, use and see web pages differently, but the idea of screen layout is to provide blind persons with what can be classified as a visual layout. For me, and this is when I just switched to NVDA, I found that this was better for my needs. On some web pages, it allowed me to quickly pass a number of links, for example, without using the N key. Form fields as well, as I knew the shortcut to move between them. Having each link on its own line, I found, made reading a page take longer, and when reading on Wikipedia, for example, was not very intuitive. I wonder though, how many new screen readers would actually change to simple layout (turning screen layout off)?
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Re: NVDA and Combo Boxes, Agreements?
Andre Fisher
Hi.
As it relates to your last point, I'm lost as to the purpose of what you are saying. Now, note that I said that NVDA Tries to lay out the information similarly to how sighted persons see it on a page. Screen reader users and sighted folk, obviously, use and see web pages differently, but the idea of screen layout is to provide blind persons with what can be classified as a visual layout. For me, and this is when I just switched to NVDA, I found that this was better for my needs. On some web pages, it allowed me to quickly pass a number of links, for example, without using the N key. Form fields as well, as I knew the shortcut to move between them. Having each link on its own line, I found, made reading a page take longer, and when reading on Wikipedia, for example, was not very intuitive. I wonder though, how many new screen readers would actually change to simple layout (turning screen layout off)?
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Re: Reaching the comments' section on YouTube video
hurrikennyandopo ...
Hi
It was the main you tube website.
there are a few different ways to get there.
The find command is most probably the quickest. then you might have to arrow into the edit area.
going to the bottom of the page with ctrl + end then shift key + 2 will land you on that area it seems to hit it every time for me. Or usually the F key for form fields will get you there but you might have to do a a few times.
I think it depends what you want to do. In most cases i use the B for buttons to play them and only look around when i need to. Some times the arrow keys may be needed to get into the edit area. Gene nz
On 2/05/2019 1:15 AM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:
Gene, --
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884 How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/ To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.
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Re: NVDA and Combo Boxes, Agreements?
Gene
I'm not advocating for it because I have used other
screen-readers. I'm advocating for it because I've tried both ways.
Also, web pages aren't
seen in browse mode by blind people the way a
sighted person sees them whether this feature is on or off. A sighted
person doesn't see a cursor on a web page except when in an edit field.
Blind people in browse mode use a virtual cursor. A sighted person doesn't
have to write except when in an edit field of a web page. He/she looks at
the screen. A blind person has to move around the screen as in a document
with a virtual cursor to accomplish this.
Many times, people want scripts to be written to
read information in a specific order and to skip information that is clutter for
what they are doing.
What if you are working with some sort of data base
program for a job and you need to hear fields one and five and nothing else when
looking at an entry. The whole point is to customize what is read so you
don't hear three items in each entry that are irrelevant to the information you
need. And if there is a sixth field, you don't want that read to distract
you from the information you have heard because you don't need that
information.
Gene
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From: Andre Fisher
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 3:32 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Combo Boxes,
Agreements? One would argue though, that separating links and other controls on their own line is a feature rather than how a screen reader (which should try and lay out elements on a page similarly to how a sighted person sees it) should operate. Persons that normally advocate for this change are previous users of other screen readers, but I doubt that is enough to justify the change.
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Re: blank lines in outlook 2016
hurrikennyandopo ...
Hi
usually when you read a email it is in browse mode. To stop nvda from talking use the CTRL key. Then if you think you just missed it use the shift key + K to jump you back up to that link if that is the one you want. You can keep on repeating it until you get to it.
If in a email you can also use the letter K to jump down by links only in browse mode not in focus mode where you type.
You can use thenvda quick navigation keys that are supported in browse mode if available
Most are like K for links there may be some headings so the letter H can be used etc.. Gene nz
On 2/05/2019 1:48 AM, Sam Bushman wrote:
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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at
http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa). To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884 How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/ To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.
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Re: blank lines in outlook 2016
Sam Bushman
That is a great point. I will try to use only control to stop speech. I have been using up arrow. Thinking if speech stops and I go up on line from where it stopped I should be in good shape.
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 9:54 AM To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Subject: Re: [nvda] blank lines in outlook 2016
First, it is important to use correct commands to do tasks. Other commands may work at times but they may lead to unwanted behaviors. One example is escape. It is not a documented stop speech or stop read to end command. If you use it in those ways, you may have behaviors you don't want. You may close a dialog or something else. If I have an opened e-mail message and I use it, the message closes. The result is that I have to reopen the message again and I have completely lost my place. Control is the stop speech command. While any key will stop speech, the key will take whatever action it normally takes as well. Stopping speech when any key is pressed is done so that old speech won't continue when you take a new action. Control is the documented stop speech command in all screen-readers I am familiar with because control, when pressed by itself, takes no actions other than to stop speech. it stops speech just as pressing any key does so it isn't taking that action as a control key function. NVDA is stopping speech because a key is pressed.
It is very easy to find a link if you stop speech near it. Use the command k to move you to the next link or shift k to move you to the previous link. If you have read the link and are passed it, shift k will take you back to it with one issuance of the command because it is the previous link.
I am assuming you are reading mail as html. If you aren't, that command won't work.
You can also tab or shift tab to move to the next and previous link respectively. However, in my e-mail program, that often takes you to a link far away from the one you want because of an alignment problem in browse mode when using the e-mail program I use. K and shift k doesn't have that problewm. You can experiment and see what happens in your e-mail program if you wish.
Gene ----- Original Message ----- From: Sam Bushman Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 8:48 AM Subject: Re: [nvda] blank lines in outlook 2016
When you use read to end – then want to get a link to click on – how do you find the link – highlight it and then click on it. You press esc or another key to stop the read to end – then you need to arrow around to find the link to click on. I just get blank over and over. Any other suggestions?
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Why are you down arrowing through the message? Do you have to do so for some reason? If you use read to end, no blank lines will be spoken.
Gene ----- Original Message -----
Hi All,
I have two main problems with outlook 2016 – the 32bit version that you can download and install from office 365.
Thanks so much for any input. Sam
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