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NVDA and Brave Shields

 

Hey,

I use the Brave browser with NVDA. I read online that you can disable addblocking for an individual site in the Brave Shields panel, I do not see this option in the Brave Shields panel. Is this option not present, or does NVDA not see this option. And if NVDA does not see this option, is there a way to enable or disable add-blocking per individual site with NVDA? Thanks in advance.

Sincerely,
Artin Dekker


NVDA and waterfox

Don H
 

Trying out waterfox on a Win 10 system and latest NVDA.  Seems to be quite a lag when typing in edit boxes on waterfox.  Is there some tips and tricks for using waterfox with NVDA?

Thanks


Re: Custom Hot Key Disappears On NVDA Update

Richard Wells
 

Brian: What I am saying is that I prefer not to use a desktop shortcut
at all. Rather, I have assigned ALT+CONTROL+V to the NVDA shortcut .lnk
that the installer adds to C:\ProgramData\Microsoft\Windows\Start
Menu\Programs\NVDA and when NVDA updates, it over-writes that shortcut
and removes my modification. That shortcut, by default has no hot key
assigned to it. I choose to assign it there and I would prefer that NVDA
updates honor my choice to do it that way. I am simply using the
shortcut that NVDA addes to that folder structure and making a simple
modification to it. I hope I am making myself understood.

On 5/2/2019 2:22 AM, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io wrote:
Are you saying that if you duplicate the desktop shortcut and use a
different name for it and a different letter nvda changes it? That
seems not to happen here. The trick is to make sure its not called the
same name. Call it start nvda or whatever and  simply copy over the
bit from the field that starts nvda to the new shortcut, and then it
matters not what it does to the other one. I believe you might be able
to delete it but I'm not sure if it stays deleted through an update,
but your new one should always still work.
This way you can do clever stuff like run a batch file to  say, grab a
log and restart with it displayed and all that sort of thing.
Brian

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----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Wells" <richwels@gmx.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 4:14 PM
Subject: [nvda] Custom Hot Key Disappears On NVDA Update


My hot key disappears each time I update NVDA. The reason for this is, I
don't use the desktop shortcut and I also use a different hot key than
the default. I prefer to assign the hot key ALT+CONTROL+V and I use the
LNK found at C:\programdata\Microsoft\Windows\Start Menu\Programs\NVDA
to do this. It would be nice if the NVDA install/update was smart enough
to honor custom configurations like mine.






Re: playing music on this new laptop

Gene
 

an example of why having an external sound card if problems occur with the one you usually use is a good idea.   I have no idea if this would solve the problem.  If a system restore point is available from before the problem started, that would be less work and there is a good chance it would solve the problem if it is software related.  There is a small risk when running system restore but it is widely used and if used properly, the risk is low. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2019 8:12 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] playing music on this new laptop

Uninstalling the soundcard from device manager and performing a new hardware search out of the device manager would reinstall the soundcard, its drivers and reset all sound configurations to their defaults.

Of course that would need sighted help.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Donnerstag, 2. Mai 2019 13:59
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] playing music on this new laptop

 

Impossible unless there are balance controls for every audio source.  In Windows 7 there is one universal balance control.  The description of the problem states that NVDA comes from one channel.  It also states that music audio is coming from the other channel.  Has Windows 100 changed sound card settings so that, for example, NVDA has its own balance settings and Winamp, for example has its own balance settings?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2019 5:12 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] playing music on this new laptop

 

Hi

It sounds like the stereo balance is turned all the way to one side or the other depending on the sound source.  Check the volume mixer to see if this is the case.  Press Windows+b to move focus to the system tray then use arrow keys to find the entry for speakers and press the  applications key.  You should see volume mixer in the context menu displayed.

 

 

Cheers

Chris

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: 2 May 2019 05:46
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] playing music on this new laptop

 

, I’ve turned it off for some time.  My friend’s brother noticed it when he played music on it a few days ago.  I only had this computer for 2 months.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: May 1, 2019 9:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] playing music on this new laptop

 

I don't know what is causing the screen-reader to come from one side and the music from the other, in that case.

 

Have you tried the usual possible remedy of rebooting? 

 

When did the problem begin?  You might try running a restore point from before that time.  Aside from that, I'm not sure if I have other suggestions.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Arlene

Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 11:00 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] playing music on this new laptop

 

Gene: No, the speakers are built into the computer.  I don’t have usb speakers. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: May 1, 2019 12:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] playing music on this new laptop

 

Are the speakers USB speakers?  What happens if they are, if you disconnect them from the computer and connect them again, in other words, unplug the USB plug and plug it in again? 

 

While the speakers are unplugged, is sound heard through the internal speakers as it should be?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Arlene

Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 1:19 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] playing music on this new laptop

 

Another thing I forgot was my friend Max who drives Handy dart he played the

Foo fighters All my life and he too said it came through one speaker and NVDA came through the  other speaker.  Only the right speaker plays the music.  He thinks I should get a Bluetooth speaker.  Otherwise I’ll blow the speakers.  This is an Acer laptop and I have realtec speakers if this is a help.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Arlene via Groups.Io
Sent: May 1, 2019 11:10 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] playing music on this new laptop

 

Hi list: Arlene here.  I tried to fix the balance on my new laptop.  On the right speaker I can hear my music.  On the left speaker I hear NVDA coming through.  I want to hear music on both speakers.  I can get NVDA to speak through both the speakers.  I tried to balance the music on the left speaker. But the music will not move to the left speaker.  How does one do that. I did see where you can have it set to default Microsoft sound. Shell I do that and see what happens?  My room mate’s brother played his black Sabith and he discovered that only the right speaker played the music.  Do I need to get a Bluetooth speaker? Or do I set it back to Microsoft default sound or whatever it was I did see. I have realtec speakers if that is a help. Sorry for all my rambling.  I had this computer since February 27th

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 

 


Re: playing music on this new laptop

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

Uninstalling the soundcard from device manager and performing a new hardware search out of the device manager would reinstall the soundcard, its drivers and reset all sound configurations to their defaults.

Of course that would need sighted help.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: Donnerstag, 2. Mai 2019 13:59
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] playing music on this new laptop

 

Impossible unless there are balance controls for every audio source.  In Windows 7 there is one universal balance control.  The description of the problem states that NVDA comes from one channel.  It also states that music audio is coming from the other channel.  Has Windows 100 changed sound card settings so that, for example, NVDA has its own balance settings and Winamp, for example has its own balance settings?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2019 5:12 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] playing music on this new laptop

 

Hi

It sounds like the stereo balance is turned all the way to one side or the other depending on the sound source.  Check the volume mixer to see if this is the case.  Press Windows+b to move focus to the system tray then use arrow keys to find the entry for speakers and press the  applications key.  You should see volume mixer in the context menu displayed.

 

 

Cheers

Chris

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: 2 May 2019 05:46
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] playing music on this new laptop

 

, I’ve turned it off for some time.  My friend’s brother noticed it when he played music on it a few days ago.  I only had this computer for 2 months.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: May 1, 2019 9:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] playing music on this new laptop

 

I don't know what is causing the screen-reader to come from one side and the music from the other, in that case.

 

Have you tried the usual possible remedy of rebooting? 

 

When did the problem begin?  You might try running a restore point from before that time.  Aside from that, I'm not sure if I have other suggestions.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Arlene

Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 11:00 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] playing music on this new laptop

 

Gene: No, the speakers are built into the computer.  I don’t have usb speakers. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: May 1, 2019 12:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] playing music on this new laptop

 

Are the speakers USB speakers?  What happens if they are, if you disconnect them from the computer and connect them again, in other words, unplug the USB plug and plug it in again? 

 

While the speakers are unplugged, is sound heard through the internal speakers as it should be?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Arlene

Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 1:19 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] playing music on this new laptop

 

Another thing I forgot was my friend Max who drives Handy dart he played the

Foo fighters All my life and he too said it came through one speaker and NVDA came through the  other speaker.  Only the right speaker plays the music.  He thinks I should get a Bluetooth speaker.  Otherwise I’ll blow the speakers.  This is an Acer laptop and I have realtec speakers if this is a help.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Arlene via Groups.Io
Sent: May 1, 2019 11:10 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] playing music on this new laptop

 

Hi list: Arlene here.  I tried to fix the balance on my new laptop.  On the right speaker I can hear my music.  On the left speaker I hear NVDA coming through.  I want to hear music on both speakers.  I can get NVDA to speak through both the speakers.  I tried to balance the music on the left speaker. But the music will not move to the left speaker.  How does one do that. I did see where you can have it set to default Microsoft sound. Shell I do that and see what happens?  My room mate’s brother played his black Sabith and he discovered that only the right speaker played the music.  Do I need to get a Bluetooth speaker? Or do I set it back to Microsoft default sound or whatever it was I did see. I have realtec speakers if that is a help. Sorry for all my rambling.  I had this computer since February 27th

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 

 


Re: blank lines in outlook 2016

Sam Bushman
 

It’s kind of like how a screen reader will say 52 dashes instead of dash,dash,dash over and over.

Might say five blank lines and then move you past them in one down arrow – could be turned on or off?

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Peter Beasley
Sent: Thursday, May 2, 2019 2:52 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] blank lines in outlook 2016

 

Windoweeyes used to have a feature to turn off blank.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: 01 May 2019 21:10
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] blank lines in outlook 2016

 

Perhaps it should be suggested that a setting be adopted that would skip blank lines. 

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 2:56 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] blank lines in outlook 2016

 

If you want to locate bits to cut and paste as I do all the time for scripts
for readers the blank line can become just a little annoying!
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] blank lines in outlook 2016


Why are you down arrowing through the message?  Do you have to do so for
some reason?  If you use read to end, no blank lines will be spoken.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Sam Bushman
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 7:26 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] blank lines in outlook 2016


Hi All,



I have two main problems with outlook 2016 - the 32bit version that you can
download and install from office 365.



  1.. I get blank line over and over when arrowing through messages. Is
there a way to ignore / compress more than one blank line in a row?
  2.. Often the outlook crashes and restarts. This only happens with NVDA. I
have briefed several on this list before and have sent in logs etc. Does
this crashing on certain messages happen to anyone else? If I view the
message by either looking at it from a forward or a reply it doesn't crash.
Thanks so much for any input.

Sam







 


Re: playing music on this new laptop

Gene
 

Impossible unless there are balance controls for every audio source.  In Windows 7 there is one universal balance control.  The description of the problem states that NVDA comes from one channel.  It also states that music audio is coming from the other channel.  Has Windows 100 changed sound card settings so that, for example, NVDA has its own balance settings and Winamp, for example has its own balance settings?
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2019 5:12 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] playing music on this new laptop

Hi

It sounds like the stereo balance is turned all the way to one side or the other depending on the sound source.  Check the volume mixer to see if this is the case.  Press Windows+b to move focus to the system tray then use arrow keys to find the entry for speakers and press the  applications key.  You should see volume mixer in the context menu displayed.

 

 

Cheers

Chris

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: 2 May 2019 05:46
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] playing music on this new laptop

 

, I’ve turned it off for some time.  My friend’s brother noticed it when he played music on it a few days ago.  I only had this computer for 2 months.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: May 1, 2019 9:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] playing music on this new laptop

 

I don't know what is causing the screen-reader to come from one side and the music from the other, in that case.

 

Have you tried the usual possible remedy of rebooting? 

 

When did the problem begin?  You might try running a restore point from before that time.  Aside from that, I'm not sure if I have other suggestions.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Arlene

Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 11:00 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] playing music on this new laptop

 

Gene: No, the speakers are built into the computer.  I don’t have usb speakers. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: May 1, 2019 12:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] playing music on this new laptop

 

Are the speakers USB speakers?  What happens if they are, if you disconnect them from the computer and connect them again, in other words, unplug the USB plug and plug it in again? 

 

While the speakers are unplugged, is sound heard through the internal speakers as it should be?

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Arlene

Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 1:19 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] playing music on this new laptop

 

Another thing I forgot was my friend Max who drives Handy dart he played the

Foo fighters All my life and he too said it came through one speaker and NVDA came through the  other speaker.  Only the right speaker plays the music.  He thinks I should get a Bluetooth speaker.  Otherwise I’ll blow the speakers.  This is an Acer laptop and I have realtec speakers if this is a help.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Arlene via Groups.Io
Sent: May 1, 2019 11:10 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] playing music on this new laptop

 

Hi list: Arlene here.  I tried to fix the balance on my new laptop.  On the right speaker I can hear my music.  On the left speaker I hear NVDA coming through.  I want to hear music on both speakers.  I can get NVDA to speak through both the speakers.  I tried to balance the music on the left speaker. But the music will not move to the left speaker.  How does one do that. I did see where you can have it set to default Microsoft sound. Shell I do that and see what happens?  My room mate’s brother played his black Sabith and he discovered that only the right speaker played the music.  Do I need to get a Bluetooth speaker? Or do I set it back to Microsoft default sound or whatever it was I did see. I have realtec speakers if that is a help. Sorry for all my rambling.  I had this computer since February 27th

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

 

 

 


Re: playing music on this new laptop

Gene
 

Unless the sound card settings have been enhanced with more control abilities in Windows 10, your suggestion and solution are impossible. In Windows 7 there is one balance setting that affects all sound.  If this is the case in Windows 10, then it isn't a balance problem.  I don't know what the problem is and if rebooting doesn't solve the problem and a restore point from before the problem isn't available, I'm not sure what might be done to solve the problem. 
 
Gene 

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2019 2:33 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] playing music on this new laptop

OK I think you need to look at whatever the applet is for the sound system
and look at the balance control settings. I've encountered people using the
balance as if it were volume. Often this happens due to the actual label
being read by nvda being out of step with the sliders so to speak.
 If its not that then maybe the actual machine has an issue as normally
everything comes out of the default  system the same. the fact that the nvda
can be made to do this proves it should be possible unless there is a
hardware issue somewhere on the sound side. Very unlikely unless the music
has in fact only been recorded on one side. I assume that the system sounds
come out of both?
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Arlene" <nedster66@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2019 5:00 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] playing music on this new laptop


Gene: No, the speakers are built into the computer.  I don’t have usb
speakers.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Gene
Sent: May 1, 2019 12:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] playing music on this new laptop

Are the speakers USB speakers? What happens if they are, if you disconnect
them from the computer and connect them again, in other words, unplug the
USB plug and plug it in again?

While the speakers are unplugged, is sound heard through the internal
speakers as it should be?

Gene
----- Original Message -----
From: Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 1:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] playing music on this new laptop

Another thing I forgot was my friend Max who drives Handy dart he played the
Foo fighters All my life and he too said it came through one speaker and
NVDA came through the other speaker. Only the right speaker plays the music.
He thinks I should get a Bluetooth speaker. Otherwise I’ll blow the
speakers. This is an Acer laptop and I have realtec speakers if this is a
help.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

From: Arlene via Groups.Io
Sent: May 1, 2019 11:10 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] playing music on this new laptop

Hi list: Arlene here. I tried to fix the balance on my new laptop. On the
right speaker I can hear my music. On the left speaker I hear NVDA coming
through. I want to hear music on both speakers. I can get NVDA to speak
through both the speakers. I tried to balance the music on the left speaker.
But the music will not move to the left speaker. How does one do that. I did
see where you can have it set to default Microsoft sound. Shell I do that
and see what happens? My room mate’s brother played his black Sabith and he
discovered that only the right speaker played the music. Do I need to get a
Bluetooth speaker? Or do I set it back to Microsoft default sound or
whatever it was I did see. I have realtec speakers if that is a help. Sorry
for all my rambling. I had this computer since February 27th.

Sent from Mail for Windows 10











Re: NVDA and Combo Boxes, Agreements?

Gene
 

This is off by default in modern e-mail programs.  I believe even Outlook Express has it off by default.  I'm not sure where the setting is in Outlook Express but when you find it, you should see something like this:
Block images and other external content in HTML e-mail.  In Windows Live Mail, this is a check box.  
 
If this setting is on, I don't know if a server is querried at all but you are protected from such harmful content.
 
Gene
----- Original amessage -----

Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2019 2:12 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Combo Boxes, Agreements?

Weeeell, its all down to how you use the system is it not? If you have never
been sighted ten I find most have it on as its easier, but if like me you
were sighted once having each on a new line can be confusing. It really
depends on how well the page was designed though. Some leave no space
between them and this can be fiddly to get to work out which combo box or
whatever active control it is, is in play.
Another annoyance is that often sites mix normal combos with the ones that
will jump out as soon as you start to change them. of course you can get
around this with pressing extra keys as you cursor, but its bad design.
 On the issue of licence accepting. this is an ongoing issue both online and
in some installers. I find often one has to resort to  screen navigation to
find the individual buttons for accept and not accept.
 Another bit of bad design.
 My current annoyance is Capchars with pictures, but that is a whole other
subject so I will not talk about it here. Its bad enough that forums seem to
not use headers or other easy to navigate devices these days which makes
them almost unusable if you want to use them quickly.
 Brian

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From: "Andre Fisher" <andrefisher729@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 9:32 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA and Combo Boxes, Agreements?


Hi.

One would argue though, that separating links and other controls on their
own line is a feature rather than how a screen reader (which should try and
lay out elements on a page similarly to how a sighted person sees it) should
operate. Persons that normally advocate for this change are previous users
of other screen readers, but I doubt that is enough to justify the change.







Re: blank lines in outlook 2016

Gene
 

I don't see the point.  What is wanted is something that skips blank lines when you down arrow and moves directly to the next line with text.  If there are three blank lines between the line of text you are on and the next line, down arrowing would skip those three blank lines and read the next line with text.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2019 1:58 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] blank lines in outlook 2016

Or makes a little  noise of a discreet nature instead?
 Brian

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Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 9:11 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] blank lines in outlook 2016


Perhaps it should be suggested that a setting be adopted that would skip
blank lines.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 2:56 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] blank lines in outlook 2016


If you want to locate bits to cut and paste as I do all the time for scripts
for readers the blank line can become just a little annoying!
 Brian

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From: "Gene" <gsasner@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] blank lines in outlook 2016


Why are you down arrowing through the message?  Do you have to do so for
some reason?  If you use read to end, no blank lines will be spoken.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Sam Bushman
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 7:26 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] blank lines in outlook 2016


Hi All,



I have two main problems with outlook 2016 - the 32bit version that you can
download and install from office 365.



  1.. I get blank line over and over when arrowing through messages. Is
there a way to ignore / compress more than one blank line in a row?
  2.. Often the outlook crashes and restarts. This only happens with NVDA. I
have briefed several on this list before and have sent in logs etc. Does
this crashing on certain messages happen to anyone else? If I view the
message by either looking at it from a forward or a reply it doesn't crash.
Thanks so much for any input.

Sam
















Re: playing music on this new laptop

Chris Mullins
 

Hi

It sounds like the stereo balance is turned all the way to one side or the other depending on the sound source.  Check the volume mixer to see if this is the case.  Press Windows+b to move focus to the system tray then use arrow keys to find the entry for speakers and press the  applications key.  You should see volume mixer in the context menu displayed.

 

 

Cheers

Chris

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Arlene
Sent: 2 May 2019 05:46
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] playing music on this new laptop

 

, I’ve turned it off for some time.  My friend’s brother noticed it when he played music on it a few days ago.  I only had this computer for 2 months.

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: May 1, 2019 9:30 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] playing music on this new laptop

 

I don't know what is causing the screen-reader to come from one side and the music from the other, in that case.

 

Have you tried the usual possible remedy of rebooting? 

 

When did the problem begin?  You might try running a restore point from before that time.  Aside from that, I'm not sure if I have other suggestions.

 

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Arlene

Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 11:00 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] playing music on this new laptop

 

Gene: No, the speakers are built into the computer.  I don’t have usb speakers. 

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Gene
Sent: May 1, 2019 12:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] playing music on this new laptop

 

Are the speakers USB speakers?  What happens if they are, if you disconnect them from the computer and connect them again, in other words, unplug the USB plug and plug it in again? 

 

While the speakers are unplugged, is sound heard through the internal speakers as it should be?

 

Gene

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From: Arlene

Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 1:19 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] playing music on this new laptop

 

Another thing I forgot was my friend Max who drives Handy dart he played the

Foo fighters All my life and he too said it came through one speaker and NVDA came through the  other speaker.  Only the right speaker plays the music.  He thinks I should get a Bluetooth speaker.  Otherwise I’ll blow the speakers.  This is an Acer laptop and I have realtec speakers if this is a help.

 

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To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] playing music on this new laptop

 

Hi list: Arlene here.  I tried to fix the balance on my new laptop.  On the right speaker I can hear my music.  On the left speaker I hear NVDA coming through.  I want to hear music on both speakers.  I can get NVDA to speak through both the speakers.  I tried to balance the music on the left speaker. But the music will not move to the left speaker.  How does one do that. I did see where you can have it set to default Microsoft sound. Shell I do that and see what happens?  My room mate’s brother played his black Sabith and he discovered that only the right speaker played the music.  Do I need to get a Bluetooth speaker? Or do I set it back to Microsoft default sound or whatever it was I did see. I have realtec speakers if that is a help. Sorry for all my rambling.  I had this computer since February 27th

 

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Re: blank lines in outlook 2016

 

Em 01/05/2019 12:53, Gene disse:
control, when pressed by itself, takes no actions other than to stop speech.
Actually it does. This is the key configured by default used on TeamTalk when you are on PTT mode.
However it can be easily changed, but I just thought I'd point it out.

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Re: Custom Hot Key Disappears On NVDA Update

 

Quotes probably won't work either. I just tried it :)
Try this
%programfiles(X86)%\nvda\nvda.exe -r
It worked for me.

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Em 02/05/2019 04:23, Brian's Mail list account via Groups.Io disse:

Use quotes.
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----- Original Message ----- From: "Richard Wells" <richwels@...>
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Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 5:03 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Custom Hot Key Disappears On NVDA Update


Joseph: running %programfiles%\nvda\nvda.exe -r results in the following
error: Windows cannot find 'C:\Program'. Make sure you typed the name
correctly, and then try
again.


On 5/1/2019 10:17 AM, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
I advise not using that link - I advise using:
%programfiles%\nvda\nvda.exe -r

If that is even possible (I'm sure it is, but need to double-check).
You can of course reassign shortcut keys.
Cheers,
Joseph

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Wells
Sent: Wednesday, May 1, 2019 8:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] Custom Hot Key Disappears On NVDA Update

My hot key disappears each time I update NVDA. The reason for this
is, I don't use the desktop shortcut and I also use a different hot
key than the default. I prefer to assign the hot key ALT+CONTROL+V
and I use the LNK found at C:\programdata\Microsoft\Windows\Start
Menu\Programs\NVDA to do this. It would be nice if the NVDA
install/update was smart enough to honor custom configurations like
mine.















Re: Reaching the comments' section on YouTube video

 

Too bad, that would make this thing a dream for using :)
But then one needs to be thankful to have an ad-free and accessible YouTube interface. So, no this is not a complain :)

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Em 02/05/2019 02:00, Stephen disse:

You can't post video comments, you can only read them.
At 04:21 AM 5/1/2019, you wrote:
Hi
I answered a similar request some weeks ago when I recommended a site designed for blind users which gives an ad free interface to search for and play YouTube videos.???? The link is:
??
http://www.povidi.com/YourTube/
??
After opening the site, use the e key to jump to the search edit box, then ?? hit the spacebar to move into focus mode (unless you have auto mode switching set in NVDA).???? Type in your search criteria, then pres tab to move to a combo box where you set the number of results per page.???? Set this to 10, 20 or 50, then press tab again.???? You landin another combo box where you can choose between videos, channels or playlists (I only ever use videos which is the default).???? Tab again to the search button and press spacebar to run the search.
??
The results appear in a numbered list which you can access using the h key.???? Press this repeatedly and when you find one you want to play, press tab to move focus to it and press enter.???? A dialog box opens for the chosen video.???? Again use the h key to jup to the different sections, which include player controls, pla details, video information and video comments. You can use the b key to jump to the various player control buttons.
??
After video has played, use alt+left arrow to return to the results list dialog at the point where you left it.
??
Cheers
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Sent: 30 April 2019 14:46
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Subject: [nvda] Reaching the comments' section on YouTube video
??
Hi guys,
Quite a while ago I posted here about the very same subject and at that time there was a workaround that really worked like a charm.
Trouble is, it doesn't seem to work anymore.

So, would any of you happen to know of a way to get to the comments' section on a YouTube video in a reliable manner?
Lately, for me, it's been a hit and miss. And honestly, let me tell you, it has been more of a miss than a hit. Really not fun to waste so much time with something that should be easy peasy, as I like to say.

I'm sending this one to the NVDA add-ons list as well, in case someone thinks it'd be a good idea to make an add-on to work with it and give it a solution once and for all.
Were I happen to have enough skills with it I could, should and would very well start such a project.

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Re: Reaching the comments' section on YouTube video

 

Please let me preface it by saying that I'll probably sound silly with what I'm about to write.
So here it goes.
You know what? I had completely forgotten about the find command.
And, sure enough, it seems like a very reliable way to get there where we want to.
If I activate the "show more" button and then if I go to the bottom and the top of the page a few times, last time stopping at the top, using the find comand get me there where NVDA reads "X comments" (where X is the number of comments).
So in case anyone wants to try it that's what I did. Play a bit with the page by going at the bottom then at the top and last time you do it use the find command and type comment.
Oh before I forget, the "show more" button needs to be activated before all of it :)

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Em 01/05/2019 18:37, hurrikennyandopo ... disse:

Hi


It was the main you tube website.


there are a few different ways to get there.


The find command is most probably the quickest. then you might have to arrow into the edit area.


going to the bottom of the page with ctrl + end then shift key + 2 will land you on that area it seems to hit it every time for me.

??Or usually the F key for form fields will get you there but you might have to do a a few times.


I think it depends what you want to do. In most cases i use the B for buttons to play them and only look around when i need to. Some times the arrow keys may be needed to get into the edit area.

Gene nz


On 2/05/2019 1:15 AM, marcio via Groups.Io wrote:
Gene,
I believe the other Gene was talking about the "normal" YouTube and so I answered about it :)
Now, that's a good question. I really don't know whether I am right on this. We will have to wait for his confirmation...

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Em 01/05/2019 07:23, Gene disse:
What are we talking about??? The accessible Youtube site or the main site??? On the accessible site, the various items have text labels above them such as comments.?? I believe the page may list shortcuts for getting to various sections.?? If people haven't read this, its another example of why people should look around on unfamiliar pages and not assume things are of no interest.?? Its the same reason people should look at a complete e-mail message sent on whatever topic a member sends one on, on an e-mail list.?? They will see footers with all sorts of useful links such as unsubscribe, perhaps nomail links, and maybe other useful links and information.??
??
Aside from that, I didn't bother learning the shortcuts.?? I may have learned ones I was interested in if I was going to use the site at all frequently, but there is a text label above every section.?? There is a comments label.?? If you use the screen-reader's search feature from the top of the page and search for comments, you will find it efficiently.??
??
If people are talking about the Youtube web page, you may find things differently, if they are consistently accessible on different pages.?? At this point, it isn't clear who is talking about what.
??
Gene
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Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 12:13 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reaching the comments' section on YouTube video

Gene NZ,
Using browse mode, pressing F/shift+F (or E/shift+E), all I can get is the search field for searching a video.
No comments section at all.

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Em 30/04/2019 16:56, hurrikennyandopo ... disse:

Hi


Does the E key or F key not get you to that area. I tried it with the browse mode keys and it took me there.


I am wondering when you do get to that field and it says public comment or what ever it said are you changing into focus mode just in case it is not going into the mode correctly. I guess also it depends how you have it set as well.


Gene nz


On 1/05/2019 6:21 AM, Chris Mullins wrote:

Hi

I answered a similar request some weeks ago when I recommended a site designed for blind users which gives an ad free interface to search for and play YouTube videos.?? The link is:

??

http://www.povidi.com/YourTube/

??

After opening the site, use the e key to jump to the search edit box, then ??hit the spacebar to move into focus mode (unless you have auto mode switching set in NVDA).?? Type in your search criteria, then pres tab to move to a combo box where you set the number of results per page.?? Set this to 10, 20 or 50, then press tab again.?? You landin another combo box where you can choose between videos, channels or playlists (I only ever use videos which is the default).?? Tab again to the search button and press spacebar to run the search.

??

The results appear in a numbered list which you can access using the h key.?? Press this repeatedly and when you find one you want to play, press tab to move focus to it and press enter.?? A dialog box opens for the chosen video.?? Again use the h key to jup to the different sections, which include player controls, pla details, video information and video comments. You can use the b key to jump to the various player control buttons.

??

After video has played, use alt+left arrow to return to the results list dialog at the point where you left it.

??

Cheers

Chris ??

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of marcio via Groups.Io
Sent: 30 April 2019 14:46
To: NVDA List
Subject: [nvda] Reaching the comments' section on YouTube video

??

Hi guys,
Quite a while ago I posted here about the very same subject and at that time there was a workaround that really worked like a charm.
Trouble is, it doesn't seem to work anymore.

So, would any of you happen to know of a way to get to the comments' section on a YouTube video in a reliable manner?
Lately, for me, it's been a hit and miss. And honestly, let me tell you, it has been more of a miss than a hit. Really not fun to waste so much time with something that should be easy peasy, as I like to say.

I'm sending this one to the NVDA add-ons list as well, in case someone thinks it'd be a good idea to make an add-on to work with it and give it a solution once and for all.
Were I happen to have enough skills with it I could, should and would very well start such a project.

Cheers,
Marcio.

AKA Starboy

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To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available????https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884?? How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers????https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
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To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available????https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884?? How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers????https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
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Re: Reaching the comments' section on YouTube video

 

Hey,
I think, after this discussion, I found the perfect solution for YouTube comments section.
More soon. Stay tuned.

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Em 01/05/2019 11:40, JM Casey disse:

Yes, you are right, youtube pages definitely do this; the comments are not visible unless you scroll down a bit, I believe, although I???m not positive exactly how it works.

??

I have successfully commented on a few things, but, it is generally hit-and-miss, as has been said before. It sometimes seems as though the cursor is not staying in place, or not remaining where one thinks it should be, and so typing does not always yield the expected result!

??

??

??

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Gene
Sent: May 1, 2019 9:14 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Reaching the comments' section on YouTube video

??

The reason you find the comments field by using headings from certain parts of the page and not others is probably because the page changes depending on where you are.?? Some pages change what they show depending on where you are on the page.?? The description sounds as though a Youtube video page does this.??

??

I'm not sure how common this is but I have seen it on occasion.

Gene

----- Original Message -----

From: Luke Davis

Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 3:34 AM

Subject: Re: [nvda] Reaching the comments' section on YouTube video

??

On Tue, 30 Apr 2019, Nimer Jaber wrote:

> Other than a reference to the add-ons list, I saw no reference to NVDA in this thread. This seems like an issue of navigating a particular website, and not
> an issue with NVDA, or learning to accomplish a task with NVDA that NVDA isn't working with or something.

I personally understood it as a "how to use NVDA with the youtube website"
question, otherwise the nvda-addons mention wouldn't have made sense.?? But my
subjective opinion is irrelevant since I didn't start the thread.

> If i want to jump to a comment field, I might press h to get to the comments heading, and then tab twice to get to the appropriate edit box. There seems to

You might, but at least if you are using NVDA, with Firefox, on youtube.com,
there is perhaps an 80% chance that you will never reach comments that way.

Comments on youtube.com, seem to start with a heading level 2, which specifies
the number of comments.?? But, whether the H key will actually jump you to that
heading, seems to depend on where you are on the page when you start trying to
look for it.

If you are, for example, in the related videos section, you can press H all you
like, and will probably never get to comments.?? If you press 2, you will
likely be told that there are no more headings at level 2, even though we know,
that somewhere after those related videos, is a heading level 2 dealing with
comments.

The most reliable way I have found to get to youtube comments, is to press, from
whereever I happen to be on the page, control-end, to jump to the end of the
page.?? Then shift-2, which should, most times that I know of, get you to the top
of the comments section.?? You may then press e to go to the edit field where you
can type a comment, or use the down arrow or other navigation, to reach other
people's comments.

Luke




Re: blank lines in outlook 2016

Peter Beasley
 

Windoweeyes used to have a feature to turn off blank.

 

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From: Gene
Sent: 01 May 2019 21:10
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] blank lines in outlook 2016

 

Perhaps it should be suggested that a setting be adopted that would skip blank lines. 

 

Gene

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Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 2:56 PM

Subject: Re: [nvda] blank lines in outlook 2016

 

If you want to locate bits to cut and paste as I do all the time for scripts
for readers the blank line can become just a little annoying!
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Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 2:21 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] blank lines in outlook 2016


Why are you down arrowing through the message?  Do you have to do so for
some reason?  If you use read to end, no blank lines will be spoken.

Gene
----- Original Message -----

From: Sam Bushman
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 7:26 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] blank lines in outlook 2016


Hi All,



I have two main problems with outlook 2016 - the 32bit version that you can
download and install from office 365.



  1.. I get blank line over and over when arrowing through messages. Is
there a way to ignore / compress more than one blank line in a row?
  2.. Often the outlook crashes and restarts. This only happens with NVDA. I
have briefed several on this list before and have sent in logs etc. Does
this crashing on certain messages happen to anyone else? If I view the
message by either looking at it from a forward or a reply it doesn't crash.
Thanks so much for any input.

Sam








 


Re: nvda said speak characters on/off

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Argh, you changed to a new thread. This is getting confusing now.
I think if you are not careful you can get confused here. If you type into the field that does not speak, then cursor back can you hear the things you already typed?
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Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] nvda said speak characters on/off


Sorry, I haven't been following this thread but have you turned on the character echo feature? If not this might help.




If you already tried this I am sorry for suggesting it again.




Dan Beaver


On 5/1/2019 2:40 PM, marvin kotler wrote:

Like in the subject, nvda plus 2 said speak characters on or off. This made no difference. For some reason in notepad, the keys speak like they are supposed to. Since I like the keys to speak, for now I am using nvda’s rival and the keys do speak; like to clear up the issue with nvda, though.

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Re: playing music on this new laptop

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OK I think you need to look at whatever the applet is for the sound system and look at the balance control settings. I've encountered people using the balance as if it were volume. Often this happens due to the actual label being read by nvda being out of step with the sliders so to speak.
If its not that then maybe the actual machine has an issue as normally everything comes out of the default system the same. the fact that the nvda can be made to do this proves it should be possible unless there is a hardware issue somewhere on the sound side. Very unlikely unless the music has in fact only been recorded on one side. I assume that the system sounds come out of both?
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Sent: Thursday, May 02, 2019 5:00 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] playing music on this new laptop


Gene: No, the speakers are built into the computer. I don’t have usb speakers.

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From: Gene
Sent: May 1, 2019 12:47 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] playing music on this new laptop

Are the speakers USB speakers? What happens if they are, if you disconnect them from the computer and connect them again, in other words, unplug the USB plug and plug it in again?

While the speakers are unplugged, is sound heard through the internal speakers as it should be?

Gene
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From: Arlene
Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 1:19 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] playing music on this new laptop

Another thing I forgot was my friend Max who drives Handy dart he played the
Foo fighters All my life and he too said it came through one speaker and NVDA came through the other speaker. Only the right speaker plays the music. He thinks I should get a Bluetooth speaker. Otherwise I’ll blow the speakers. This is an Acer laptop and I have realtec speakers if this is a help.

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Sent: May 1, 2019 11:10 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] playing music on this new laptop

Hi list: Arlene here. I tried to fix the balance on my new laptop. On the right speaker I can hear my music. On the left speaker I hear NVDA coming through. I want to hear music on both speakers. I can get NVDA to speak through both the speakers. I tried to balance the music on the left speaker. But the music will not move to the left speaker. How does one do that. I did see where you can have it set to default Microsoft sound. Shell I do that and see what happens? My room mate’s brother played his black Sabith and he discovered that only the right speaker played the music. Do I need to get a Bluetooth speaker? Or do I set it back to Microsoft default sound or whatever it was I did see. I have realtec speakers if that is a help. Sorry for all my rambling. I had this computer since February 27th.

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Re: when typing message, keys do not speak when I type

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And this is definitely the latest version of nvda, the win 10 essentials and windows itself is it?
I have seen lag before in this rather rubbish program (my opinion) but not nothing at all. I never use it if on a machine running 10, its very crude.
Do you perhaps get similar issues on edit boxes in online forms?
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Sent: Wednesday, May 01, 2019 7:05 PM
Subject: [nvda] tried that, no luck


I tried that, the keys still do not speak; thanks for the suggestion; anything else?
marv

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