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Re: NVDA remote

Blaster
 

I copied these instructions a while back, they worked for me, but I
haven't tried it with the newer version of remote that was mentioned
above, However, I think it will still work as these instructions are
fairly straight forward. If anything has changed, I'm sure someone
will chime in here and make a correction.


The Following is the process for setting up a NVDA remote session.

1. Go to the NVDA menu and arrow down to tools.

Expand the tools submenu with the right arrow key,
then arrow down to remote.

Expand the remote submenu with the right arrow key.

The first option will be connect.
Press enter. You will land on 2 radio buttons that say client and server.

Choose client which is the first button.

Tab once and you will land on another radio button with 2 choices,
control another computer, and allow my computer to be controlled.

Your helper will choose the button, control another computer.

Tab once and enter the NVDA remote server. It is:

www.nvdaremote.com

Tab once more. You will be in a field that asks you for a key.

You can either choose your own or have the system generate one for you.

I usually just choose a simple 4 digit key. Next, tab to the ok button.

Now what you have to do is pretty much the same,

except when you get to the radio buttons that say, control another
computer, or allow my computer to be controlled, arrow down to the
second button.

Then tab and type in the remote server name:

www.nvdaremote.com

Tab once and enter the same key that your helper chose.

Tab to the ok button and press enter.

You should hear a tone and you should be connected.

Your helper can toggle between controlling their computer and yours
with the f11 key.


HTH,
Blaster

On 5/9/19, P. Otter <pam.otter@...> wrote:
strange, my remote works fine.
you can try to restart nvda or reboot your computer per haps it helps.
what is the error message you hear?
cheers
paul otter


Op 9-5-2019 om 14:37 schreef Ján Kulik:

I have the latest version 2.2 with compatible nvda 2019.1

Re: NVDA remote

Ján Kulik
 

Well, strange, no report came to me here. Only that I was connected. But, I don't know why I can't control a user's computer, as I started the key and host, I don't understand. From the two switches I chose a client and in that the other two switches nsom gave a remote computer. Just like that. Only the second person must have then set to allow control of this computer not?

Re: NVDA remote

P. Otter
 

strange, my remote works fine.
you can try to restart nvda or reboot your computer per haps it helps.
what is the error message you hear?
cheers
paul otter


Op 9-5-2019 om 14:37 schreef Ján Kulik:

I have the latest version 2.2 with compatible nvda 2019.1

Re: NVDA remote

Ján Kulik
 

And is this add-on compatible with the new version of NVDA? Maybe that's why it doesn't work for me I don't know.

Re: NVDA remote

Ján Kulik
 

I have the latest version 2.2 with compatible nvda 2019.1

Re: NVDA remote

P. Otter
 

possibly you have'nt the last update of remote.
if you use the last version of nvda you need the last update from nvdaremote.com.
cheers
paul otter


Op 9-5-2019 om 14:23 schreef Ján Kulik:

Hi all, Can anyone give me advice? in the instructions I read how to connect to the person via the NVDA remote. I tried everything possible, but I don't know why it still doesn't work for me. I didn't control the remote computer with the F11 key. I don't understand why. Thank!

NVDA remote

Ján Kulik
 

Hi all, Can anyone give me advice? in the instructions I read how to connect to the person via the NVDA remote. I tried everything possible, but I don't know why it still doesn't work for me. I didn't control the remote computer with the F11 key. I don't understand why. Thank!

Re: Proposal to set NVDA's desktop layout object navigation keys to be active in desktop layout only

Ralf Kefferpuetz
 

For a laptop with a numpad just set the layout to desktop and you’re done.

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of marcio via Groups.Io
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To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Proposal to set NVDA's desktop layout object navigation keys to be active in desktop layout only

 

Quentin,
I do have a laptop which was supposed to have a numpad. Nowadays, it's not working.
So, with this new proposal, would I lose all the functionalities related to object navigation?
If so, I'd imagine that the proposal for a hybrid layout is more desirable, especially for me because this way I don't lose access to all of this.


Cheers,
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Em 08/05/2019 21:11, Quentin Christensen disse:

Following on from the Key assignments in NVDA thread, I have created an issue on GitHub:  https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/9549 

 

Basically, the desktop layout object navigation and review cursor keys in NVDA are actually set to be active for ALL keyboard layouts.

 

Laptop layout was designed for users without a number pad, but there are users who use Laptop layout but still have a number pad and wish to use this for navigation (Without NVDA running, the number pad, with numlock off, replicates the navigation keys of home, end, page up, page down, insert, delete and the arrow keys and some laptops have a number pad but no separate navigation keys).

 

My proposal then is to set the desktop object navigation / review cursor keys to be active in desktop layout only.

 

If there is anyone who uses laptop layout but still wants to access the desktop layout object navigation keys, please let us know!

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

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Re: Proposal to set NVDA's desktop layout object navigation keys to be active in desktop layout only

 

Quentin,
I do have a laptop which was supposed to have a numpad. Nowadays, it's not working.
So, with this new proposal, would I lose all the functionalities related to object navigation?
If so, I'd imagine that the proposal for a hybrid layout is more desirable, especially for me because this way I don't lose access to all of this.

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy

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Em 08/05/2019 21:11, Quentin Christensen disse:

Following on from the Key assignments in NVDA thread, I have created an issue on GitHub:  https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/9549 

Basically, the desktop layout object navigation and review cursor keys in NVDA are actually set to be active for ALL keyboard layouts.

Laptop layout was designed for users without a number pad, but there are users who use Laptop layout but still have a number pad and wish to use this for navigation (Without NVDA running, the number pad, with numlock off, replicates the navigation keys of home, end, page up, page down, insert, delete and the arrow keys and some laptops have a number pad but no separate navigation keys).

My proposal then is to set the desktop object navigation / review cursor keys to be active in desktop layout only.

If there is anyone who uses laptop layout but still wants to access the desktop layout object navigation keys, please let us know!

Kind regards

Quentin.

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Please: I have just updated Weather_Plus to 6.2 version.

Rémy Ruiz
 

Hi again to every one,
Note please: I have just updated to 6.2 version.
I added a piece of code that strangely with all the passages and was lost and that allowed to recover the cities created with Apixu.
I also added the "Palestine" state which a user sent me via a function which I introduced in the add-on and which signals unregistered states.
http://www.nvda.it/files/plugin/weather_plus6.2.nvda-addon
@Joseph, I tested it withnvdapy37-20190228, it's ok.
p.s.
I am about to leave and I come back Monday.

Regards
Adriano

Proposal to set NVDA's desktop layout object navigation keys to be active in desktop layout only

Quentin Christensen
 

Following on from the Key assignments in NVDA thread, I have created an issue on GitHub:  https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/9549 

Basically, the desktop layout object navigation and review cursor keys in NVDA are actually set to be active for ALL keyboard layouts.

Laptop layout was designed for users without a number pad, but there are users who use Laptop layout but still have a number pad and wish to use this for navigation (Without NVDA running, the number pad, with numlock off, replicates the navigation keys of home, end, page up, page down, insert, delete and the arrow keys and some laptops have a number pad but no separate navigation keys).

My proposal then is to set the desktop object navigation / review cursor keys to be active in desktop layout only.

If there is anyone who uses laptop layout but still wants to access the desktop layout object navigation keys, please let us know!

Kind regards

Quentin.

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Re: key assignments in NVDA

Quentin Christensen
 

Hi Luke,

Actually yes and no - The main point of Laptop keyboard layout is, as you note, the assumption that you don't have a number pad, hence moving the keys around to accomodate that fact.

When laptop layout was created, it wasn't made as a whole, every key defined from scratch layout, but rather was more like a series of "exceptions" from the regular (desktop) layout.

That the desktop object navigation keys got left set for "all" layouts rather than desktop layout only, was essentially an oversight.  I've seen it come up a couple of times, and when we discussed it this week, we agreed there is a use case for using laptop keyboard layout and still wanting access to the number pad for navigation (as per the original post that started this thread).

I'll post a new thread shortly with my proposed solution for comment.

Kind regards

Quentin.

On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 6:24 AM Luke Davis <luke@...> wrote:
Personally, I thought the whole point of laptop layout, was that it assumed you
had no number pad or conventional six pack.  Else why the differentiation
between laptop and desktop?  That is the primary difference between keyboard
types--the lack of a number pad.  I always either buy large laptops with number
pads, or I use external keyboards on my smaller laptops without them, so have
never learned or much used laptop layout.

So I'm saying I had always assumed (wrongly, it seems) that laptop layout would
act as if you had no numpad as far as the screen reader was concerned, which
would leave any numpad you do have to function as it would by default.
That seems the most logical arrangement to me.

Luke


  On Tue, 7 May 2019, Quentin Christensen wrote:

> I have seen this issue come up before.  I'm going to catch up with Mick and will raise it this afternoon.  In the meantime, clearly there are users who have
> NVDA setup in Laptop keyboard layout and want to use the number pad for navigation.  Are there any users who have NVDA in Laptop keyboard layout and like
> being able to use object navigation from the number pad as well?
> Just thinking that if there are people who use laptop layout and number pad object navigation, your third hybrid keyboard layout could be a solution - but
> if not, maybe setting the "desktop" object navigation keys to be desktop (only) keys would be a better solution.
>
> Quentin.
>
> On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 8:13 PM Andre Fisher <andrefisher729@...> wrote:
>       Hi Quentin,
>
>       As this issue has been brought up on a few occasions before, I've been thinking of an easier solution that may help persons that have the same
>       desire. What I was thinking was that there could be a new keyboard layout that could accomodate this behaviour, or that the laptop layout by
>       default would behave like this. Then, there could be a different layout called hybrid or something like that, with laptop keystrokes and the
>       NUMPAD using object navigation keys.
>
>
>
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>
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>
> www.nvaccess.org 
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>
>
>





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Re: Changing List Posting Address #adminnotice

Luke Davis
 

On Wed, 8 May 2019, Supanut Leepaisomboon wrote:

This change sounds like a good idea to me. If the chat group email address is going to be chat@nvda.groups.io, why not make the main group's email have the
@nvda.groups.io as well?
It already does. The current address is either nvda@nvda.groups.io, or just simply nvda@groups.io.

Re: Changing List Posting Address #adminnotice

 

This change sounds like a good idea to me. If the chat group email address is going to be chat@nvda.groups.io, why not make the main group's email have the @nvda.groups.io as well?

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Re: Problems With My Computer Keyboard

Luke Davis
 

Have you tried just turning on NVDA keyboard describer mode (NVDA-1), and pressing some of the upper row buttons on your laptop keyboard, usually the ones on the right hand side? One of them should show up as numlock. If none do, find your FN key, which is usually one of the keys to the left of your space bar, or at the bottom left of the keyboard. It will be the one that isn't control, windows, or alt. Find that FN key, hold it down, and try those upper right keys again until you find numlock.

After you figure out what key, or key combination with FN, is the numlock, turn off key describer mode, and press that key/key combination. If it doesn't help, press it again. If that doesn't help, try pressing it/them with shift.

I suggest trying this while in notepad or the like, so you can actually be entering text somewhere.

It is possible, though unlikely I should think, that the numlock on your laptop keyboard is not synchronized to the numlock on your external keyboard. I have only rarely actually seen that behavior, and never with a normal external keyboard only with standalone numpads, but I imagine there might be a circumstance where this happens in some od configuration of laptop.

Hth

Luke

On Tue, 7 May 2019, Jackie wrote:

You've got your numlock pressed, it sounds like. I have no idea where
it is on your keyboard, (that tends to be very nonstandard from 1
keyboard to another) so I'm not much help that way, but if you've got
a sighted person around, that key often lights up. Also, you might
want to go to the eas of access center & turn on toggle keys; that way
numlock should beep when pressed either off or on.

On 5/7/19, Ibrahim Ajayi <@kobisko> wrote:
Hi good people:
I am having problems with my computer keyboard, and not with NVDA.
My keyboard is malfunctioning. Some keys are just not functioning
normally.
For instance the letters J K L now types 1 2 3 U I L now types 4 5 6,
letter M now types 0 letter P now types * the slash key now types +.
Added to this some keys are not just working at all: the letter z key
is no longer working. When I press the letter A with the capital
letter, it doesn't get capitalised.
This is a problem peculiar to the keyboard on my laptop computer. I
am using an external keyboard to write this mail.
Please has any one had this problem before? how did you get around it,
or how was it resolved.
Or does anyone understand what the problem is and how it can be fixed.
I use an acer laptop computer. It has nothing to do with the
operating system, because as I said earlier, I am using an external
keyboard without any issues.
Hope to read a solution.
Ibrahim.




Re: key assignments in NVDA

Luke Davis
 

Personally, I thought the whole point of laptop layout, was that it assumed you had no number pad or conventional six pack. Else why the differentiation between laptop and desktop? That is the primary difference between keyboard types--the lack of a number pad. I always either buy large laptops with number pads, or I use external keyboards on my smaller laptops without them, so have never learned or much used laptop layout.

So I'm saying I had always assumed (wrongly, it seems) that laptop layout would act as if you had no numpad as far as the screen reader was concerned, which would leave any numpad you do have to function as it would by default.
That seems the most logical arrangement to me.

Luke

On Tue, 7 May 2019, Quentin Christensen wrote:

I have seen this issue come up before.  I'm going to catch up with Mick and will raise it this afternoon.  In the meantime, clearly there are users who have
NVDA setup in Laptop keyboard layout and want to use the number pad for navigation.  Are there any users who have NVDA in Laptop keyboard layout and like
being able to use object navigation from the number pad as well?
Just thinking that if there are people who use laptop layout and number pad object navigation, your third hybrid keyboard layout could be a solution - but
if not, maybe setting the "desktop" object navigation keys to be desktop (only) keys would be a better solution.
Quentin.
On Mon, May 6, 2019 at 8:13 PM Andre Fisher <andrefisher729@...> wrote:
Hi Quentin,

As this issue has been brought up on a few occasions before, I've been thinking of an easier solution that may help persons that have the same
desire. What I was thinking was that there could be a new keyboard layout that could accomodate this behaviour, or that the laptop layout by
default would behave like this. Then, there could be a different layout called hybrid or something like that, with laptop keystrokes and the
NUMPAD using object navigation keys.
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Re: NVDA and issue with Zoom

 

I reported it to zoom's accessibility team, but I still think you should report it also because, yes, I can duplicate it.

Re: outlook 2016 and NVDA 2019.1.1: nvda's focus does not go to next/previous message after pressing up/down key in message list

Gene
 

I don't know what is causing the problem if using object navigation doesn't solve it.  I don't think it will help but you can try maximizing or restoring the window, whatever is opposite to what it is now.
 
Gene
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Subject: Re: [nvda] outlook 2016 and NVDA 2019.1.1: nvda's focus does not go to next/previous message after pressing up/down key in message list

Hello,

excuse me for not being clear enough.

I checked object navigation and screen review and she has nvda set on object navigation (object review). also tried with changing a review with same results.

This sentence is my reply to your suggestions.

due to I cannot find button for attachments on a web interface of this group I am post in a log here in message body. hope, it will help.

And here I wrote, why a log is pasted in a message body. It is not related to the problem, it is only a commentary, because someone was writing months ago about pasting and/or attaching nvda logs.

hope, that I'm clearer now.

Again, log represents, what happens, when arrow key is pressed in message list and shows an unspecified error.

thanks for your effort to help me.

regards, Jožef

Re: Changing List Posting Address #adminnotice

 

Currently, what happens if we send the messages to nvda@groups.io?
Hmmm going to test it.
If nvda@groups.io is a valid address I don't think it's necessary to change because nvda@groups.io is easier to type than main@nvda.groups.io.
Let's see if it's sent. If it is, then the address is working.

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Em 08/05/2019 15:15, David Moore disse:

Hi
I agree with what you want to do regarding changing the address to main@nvda.groups.io I like that idea of having nvda appear once in the address. You have my vote on that! Take care Neimer! David Moore


On Wed, May 8, 2019, 1:38 PM Nimer Jaber <nimerjaber1@... wrote:
hello everyone,

I am considering a change to the posting address to this list. I would like to change the posting address from what it is now, nvda@nvda.groups.io to main@nvda.groups.io. I would like to do this because we have a chat list, and this is the main group. I also want to do this because it means that new users don't have to type nvda twice to reach the list. thoughts on this can be sent to the owner email address at nvda+owner@nvda.groups.io

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