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Copying an Entire Column of Data from a Table Inserted Into a Web Page?

Kenny <kwashingtonbox@...>
 

I'm not sure if NVDA 2019.1.1 has such an option available, but thought  I pose my question to the list anyway.


I'm able to navigate the rows and columns of a Table inserted in a web page pretty easily ([Ctrl+Alt] + [Up/Down/Left/Right Arrow Key]) combination.


Say I land on a column that has 25 rows of information I want to copy to the clipboard. Is there a keyboard shortcut to tell NVDA to highlight and entire column or row? Then I could simply hit [Ctrl+c] to copy the highlighted data to the clipboard.


Also other then the above shortcut keys for navigating a Table by column or row, are there any others? Ones for navigating/manipulating table data inserted in a web page that is?


I'm using the latest build of NVDA 2019.1.1 with Windows 10 1903. Google Chrome is my browser of choice. Thanks.


Re: NVDA remote

Kevin Cussick
 

Try and use the same version laptop or desktop and see if it works.

On 10/05/2019 09:26, Ján Kulik wrote:
hi,
@Luke: He has the latest version of this add-on installed, so I didn't require it from him. He does not know much about these things, so I say that his teacher has set it up for him.
@Kevin: So in the hint it is possible that we both have a keypad, that is, a deskstop or a laptop.


Re: Proposal to set NVDA's desktop layout object navigation keys to be active in desktop layout only

Sarah k Alawami
 

I also learned laptop mode on all desktops even with jaws, and my teachers hated it. Lol! But it was so so much easier for my poor hands.

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On 10 May 2019, at 14:13, Kevin Cussick via Groups.Io wrote:

I agree I use laptop even on the desktop machine, this is because I only want to learn one keyboard layout.

On 09/05/2019 23:35, David Moore wrote:

Hi Quentin!

I wanted you to know that

I use the laptop commands for object navigation on my laptop, even though it has a Number pad.

I like the laptop commands better, because you can keep your hands right on the alpha-numeric keys. I love just being able to hold down the shift and NVDA keys, and just press the arrow keys to do object nav.

I would not be affected at all.

I just wanted you to know!

David Moore

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*From: *Quentin Christensen <mailto:quentin@...>
*Sent: *Thursday, May 9, 2019 5:52 PM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] Proposal to set NVDA's desktop layout object navigationkeys to be active in desktop layout only

Hi Marcio,

Do you use laptop layout or desktop layout currently?  Laptop layout already redefines all the object navigation keys to use other keys on the keyboard (the original idea was that laptop layout would provide full functionality on a keyboard without a number pad).  Currently what actually happens is that with NVDA in laptop keyboard layout, you have access to BOTH the laptop layout object navigation, AND the desktop (number pad) object navigation.

Our proposal is to set the number pad object navigation commands to work ONLY in Desktop layout (which is what most people expect anyway).

Would that break how you currently use NVDA?  Since you said your number pad isn't working, it sounds like it shouldn't make a difference, but maybe I didn't explain it well to begin with.

Quentin.

On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 8:37 PM Ralf Kefferpuetz <ralf.kefferpuetz@... <mailto:ralf.kefferpuetz@...>> wrote:

For a laptop with a numpad just set the layout to desktop and you’re
done.

*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of
*marcio via Groups.Io
*Sent:* Donnerstag, 9. Mai 2019 11:26
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Proposal to set NVDA's desktop layout object
navigation keys to be active in desktop layout only

Quentin,
I do have a laptop which was supposed to have a numpad. Nowadays,
it's not working.
So, with this new proposal, would I lose all the functionalities
related to object navigation?
If so, I'd imagine that the proposal for a hybrid layout is more
desirable, especially for me because this way I don't lose access to
all of this.


Cheers,
Marcio <https://tinyurl.com/TlkTM>

AKA /Starboy/

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Em 08/05/2019 21:11, Quentin Christensen disse:

Following on from the Key assignments in NVDA thread, I have
created an issue on GitHub:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/9549

Basically, the desktop layout object navigation and review
cursor keys in NVDA are actually set to be active for ALL
keyboard layouts.

Laptop layout was designed for users without a number pad, but
there are users who use Laptop layout but still have a number
pad and wish to use this for navigation (Without NVDA running,
the number pad, with numlock off, replicates the navigation keys
of home, end, page up, page down, insert, delete and the arrow
keys and some laptops have a number pad but no separate
navigation keys).

My proposal then is to set the desktop object navigation /
review cursor keys to be active in desktop layout only.

If there is anyone who uses laptop layout but still wants to
access the desktop layout object navigation keys, please let us
know!

Kind regards

Quentin.

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Re: Proposal to set NVDA's desktop layout object navigation keys to be active in desktop layout only

Kevin Cussick
 

I agree I use laptop even on the desktop machine, this is because I only want to learn one keyboard layout.

On 09/05/2019 23:35, David Moore wrote:
Hi Quentin!
I wanted you to know that
I use the laptop commands for object navigation on my laptop, even though it has a Number pad.
I like the laptop commands better, because you can keep your hands right on the alpha-numeric keys. I love just being able to hold down the shift and NVDA keys, and just press the arrow keys to do object nav.
I would not be affected at all.
I just wanted you to know!
David Moore
                                                                Sent from Mail <https://go.microsoft.com/fwlink/?LinkId=550986> for Windows 10
*From: *Quentin Christensen <mailto:quentin@nvaccess.org>
*Sent: *Thursday, May 9, 2019 5:52 PM
*To: *nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject: *Re: [nvda] Proposal to set NVDA's desktop layout object navigationkeys to be active in desktop layout only
Hi Marcio,
Do you use laptop layout or desktop layout currently?  Laptop layout already redefines all the object navigation keys to use other keys on the keyboard (the original idea was that laptop layout would provide full functionality on a keyboard without a number pad).  Currently what actually happens is that with NVDA in laptop keyboard layout, you have access to BOTH the laptop layout object navigation, AND the desktop (number pad) object navigation.
Our proposal is to set the number pad object navigation commands to work ONLY in Desktop layout (which is what most people expect anyway).
Would that break how you currently use NVDA?  Since you said your number pad isn't working, it sounds like it shouldn't make a difference, but maybe I didn't explain it well to begin with.
Quentin.
On Thu, May 9, 2019 at 8:37 PM Ralf Kefferpuetz <ralf.kefferpuetz@elra-consulting.de <mailto:ralf.kefferpuetz@elra-consulting.de>> wrote:
For a laptop with a numpad just set the layout to desktop and you’re
done.
*From:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
<nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>> *On Behalf Of
*marcio via Groups.Io
*Sent:* Donnerstag, 9. Mai 2019 11:26
*To:* nvda@nvda.groups.io <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io>
*Subject:* Re: [nvda] Proposal to set NVDA's desktop layout object
navigation keys to be active in desktop layout only
Quentin,
I do have a laptop which was supposed to have a numpad. Nowadays,
it's not working.
So, with this new proposal, would I lose all the functionalities
related to object navigation?
If so, I'd imagine that the proposal for a hybrid layout is more
desirable, especially for me because this way I don't lose access to
all of this.
Cheers,
Marcio <https://tinyurl.com/TlkTM>
AKA /Starboy/
Sent from a galaxy far, far away.
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Em 08/05/2019 21:11, Quentin Christensen disse:
Following on from the Key assignments in NVDA thread, I have
created an issue on GitHub:
https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/9549
Basically, the desktop layout object navigation and review
cursor keys in NVDA are actually set to be active for ALL
keyboard layouts.
Laptop layout was designed for users without a number pad, but
there are users who use Laptop layout but still have a number
pad and wish to use this for navigation (Without NVDA running,
the number pad, with numlock off, replicates the navigation keys
of home, end, page up, page down, insert, delete and the arrow
keys and some laptops have a number pad but no separate
navigation keys).
My proposal then is to set the desktop object navigation /
review cursor keys to be active in desktop layout only.
If there is anyone who uses laptop layout but still wants to
access the desktop layout object navigation keys, please let us
know!
Kind regards
Quentin.
--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager
Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification
now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess
--
Quentin Christensen
Training and Support Manager
Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/
www.nvaccess.org <http://www.nvaccess.org/>
Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess
Twitter: @NVAccess


Re: Say all command

Gene
 

That is if you are using the laptop layout.  If you are using the desktop layout, it is NVDA key down arrow.
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, May 10, 2019 8:50 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Say all command

Hello, the say all shortcut is NVDA key and the letter a.

Claire Potter
Potter's place, where technology comes to life!
www.pottersplace.me.uk
NVDA Certified Expert 2019. 


On 10 May 2019, at 14:40, farhan israk <fahim.net.2014@...> wrote:

What is nvda shortcut for say all command? Insert + b doesn't work. It opens browse mode settings.


Re: Weather_Plus 6.2 available

Rémy Ruiz
 

Hi,

If this file does not exist you must configure the Weather_Plus.

Cheers.

Rémy

Le 10/05/2019 à 14:59, Rémy Ruiz via Groups.Io a écrit :

Hi,

This the new version to download:

http://www.nvda.it/files/plugin/weather_plus6.2.nvda-addon

I add only for those who still have problems, as already suggested by someone to go it:
1. press left windows key+r.
2. paste the line:
%appdata%\nvda\
3. delete the file weather.ini.
4. Press nvda+ctrl+f3 and reconfigure the add-on normally.http://www.nvda.it/files/plugin/weather_plus6.1.nvda-addon

Thanks.

Cheers.

Rémy

Le 10/05/2019 à 13:43, abdul muhamin a écrit :

Hi. The file is missing. Please fix

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rémy Ruiz
Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2019 7:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weather_Plus 6.0 available

 

Hi friend Gerardo,

Put the log in debug mode to see the general option in NVDA, press the NVDA+F1 key, save this file and give it a name.log and then send the log to Adriano, you have his mail in the readme.html, or via the addon page. Thanks for your comments always useful.

Greetings.

Rémy

Le 09/05/2019 à 16:21, Gerardo Corripio a écrit :

Bravo bravo! It worked! Disregard the previous Email I’d sent a few minutes ago, about even though this morning updated to Weather Plus 6.2, it still didn’t work. Nevertheless I’d like a refresher on if this ever happens again, how would I extract the log, and send it through here? So far Weather Plus is awesome! Keep up the great work!

 

                                                                                              Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10

 

De: Rémy Ruiz
Enviado: miércoles, 8 de mayo de 2019 11:54 a. m.
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Asunto: Re: [nvda] Weather_Plus 6.0 available

 

Hi Gerardo,

Can you please download this version 6.1, is the last version available;

http://www.nvda.it/files/plugin/weather_plus6.1.nvda-addon

 

I add only for those who still have problems, as already suggested by someone to go it:
1. press left windows key+r.
2. paste the line:
%appdata%\nvda\
3. delete the file weather.ini.
4. Press nvda+ctrl+f3 and reconfigure the add-on normally.http://www.nvda.it/files/plugin/weather_plus6.1.nvda-addon
Thanks.
Rémy

Le 08/05/2019 à 02:04, Gerardo Corripio a écrit :

Nothing Works. I installed the two versions but nothing. It only makesthe sound when I go into theSeacities.Afterwards the setting is unavailable. Hope to get it fixed son!

 

                                                                                              Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10

 

De: Adriano Barbieri via Groups.Io
Enviado: martes, 7 de mayo de 2019 04:56 p. m.
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Asunto: Re: [nvda] Weather_Plus 6.0 available

 

Hi,

 

I have fixed 2 bugs recently.

download again, remove any Weather_Plus version and install again Weather_Plus 6.0.

http://www.nvda.it/files/plugin/weather_plus6.0.nvda-addon

Let them know

 

Regards

Adriano

Il 07/05/2019 22:46, Jarek.Krcmar ha scritto:

Greetings,

I have problem with the Weather plus.

I could start it, Windows has seen it not anyway.

So, I have uninstalled and installed Nvda and than Weather plus.

But I can't set my town.

Where is a problem, please?

Could you help me?

Sincerely:

Jarek

Dne 07-05-2019 v 12:30 Adriano Barbieri via Groups.Io napsal(a):


Hi to every one,


Note for those who were using versions 5 of Weather_Plus (Apixu API)::

The list of cities you have is not compatible with this new version, don't worry, Weather_Plus will allow you to retrieve them via the settings window.

Changes in this version:

??? Weather Plus returns to using the Yahoo Weather API.
??? Virtually all the features of the previous version 4.8 are back and keeps the "Rename" button.

??? Now compatible also with Python 3.

??? NVDA compatibility: 2017.3 to 2019.1

Weather_Plus can update itself, however you can download it from the following page:

http://www.nvda.it/files/plugin/weather_plus6.0.nvda-addon

Thanks in advance Noelia, Remy, Abdel, and Svonimir for yoursgreat commitment to include Weather_Plus in the automatic translation system and restoring the download link on the international page.


Best regards

Adriano Barbieri

 

 

 

 


Re: NVDA remote

Chris Mullins
 

Hi
NVDA isn't interpreting the keystrokes, It's just behaving as normal in that it takes input from the keyboard and either sees it as an NVDA command, app input or operating system related. NVDA is just acting as a conduit, passing the keystrokes as if they had been typed locally, then passing back text strings output for voicing on the controllers machine.

Cheers
Chris

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Antony Stone
Sent: 10 May 2019 11:53
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA remote

It strikes me that it would be better for NVDA Remote to send not the
keystrokes themselves, which then need to be interpreted by the remote
machine, and rely on it having the same NVDA keyboard layout setting, but
instead to send the NVDA commands which result from those keystrokes, so that
the person on the controlling computer types some key combination on their
keyboard, and the command which this combination means to then gets sent to
the controlled computer, without caring what keyboard language or layout it
has.

Antony.


On Friday 10 May 2019 at 11:01:42, Chris Mullins wrote:

Hi

I don’t know what what the @Luke etc references are because I’m a dinosaur
and have no interest in Twitter or Facebook but I’m confused by the
references to keypads. To use NVDA remote, both parties should have NVDA
configured to use the same keyboard layout and language, irrespective of
the physical computers. Think about it, the controlling is sending
keystrokes to the controlled computer, so it has to cbe configured to
understand those keystrokes.

To check what NVDA version is being used, press NVDA+f1 to open the log
file, move to the top of the log file and use the down arrow to scroll a
few lines down and there is a message stating the version of NVDA being
used.

Cheers

Chris
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ján
Kulik Sent: 10 May 2019 09:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA remote

hi,

@Luke: He has the latest version of this add-on installed, so I didn't
require it from him. He does not know much about these things, so I say
that his teacher has set it up for him.

@Kevin: So in the hint it is possible that we both have a keypad, that is,
a deskstop or a laptop.
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Re: Say all command

Claire Potter <claire.potter99@...>
 

Hello, the say all shortcut is NVDA key and the letter a.

Claire Potter
Potter's place, where technology comes to life!
www.pottersplace.me.uk
NVDA Certified Expert 2019. 


On 10 May 2019, at 14:40, farhan israk <fahim.net.2014@...> wrote:

What is nvda shortcut for say all command? Insert + b doesn't work. It opens browse mode settings.


Say all command

farhan israk
 

What is nvda shortcut for say all command? Insert + b doesn't work. It opens browse mode settings.


Re: Weather_Plus 6.2 available

Rémy Ruiz
 

Hi,

This the new version to download:

http://www.nvda.it/files/plugin/weather_plus6.2.nvda-addon

I add only for those who still have problems, as already suggested by someone to go it:
1. press left windows key+r.
2. paste the line:
%appdata%\nvda\
3. delete the file weather.ini.
4. Press nvda+ctrl+f3 and reconfigure the add-on normally.http://www.nvda.it/files/plugin/weather_plus6.1.nvda-addon

Thanks.

Cheers.

Rémy

Le 10/05/2019 à 13:43, abdul muhamin a écrit :

Hi. The file is missing. Please fix

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rémy Ruiz
Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2019 7:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weather_Plus 6.0 available

 

Hi friend Gerardo,

Put the log in debug mode to see the general option in NVDA, press the NVDA+F1 key, save this file and give it a name.log and then send the log to Adriano, you have his mail in the readme.html, or via the addon page. Thanks for your comments always useful.

Greetings.

Rémy

Le 09/05/2019 à 16:21, Gerardo Corripio a écrit :

Bravo bravo! It worked! Disregard the previous Email I’d sent a few minutes ago, about even though this morning updated to Weather Plus 6.2, it still didn’t work. Nevertheless I’d like a refresher on if this ever happens again, how would I extract the log, and send it through here? So far Weather Plus is awesome! Keep up the great work!

 

                                                                                              Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10

 

De: Rémy Ruiz
Enviado: miércoles, 8 de mayo de 2019 11:54 a. m.
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Asunto: Re: [nvda] Weather_Plus 6.0 available

 

Hi Gerardo,

Can you please download this version 6.1, is the last version available;

http://www.nvda.it/files/plugin/weather_plus6.1.nvda-addon

 

I add only for those who still have problems, as already suggested by someone to go it:
1. press left windows key+r.
2. paste the line:
%appdata%\nvda\
3. delete the file weather.ini.
4. Press nvda+ctrl+f3 and reconfigure the add-on normally.http://www.nvda.it/files/plugin/weather_plus6.1.nvda-addon
Thanks.
Rémy

Le 08/05/2019 à 02:04, Gerardo Corripio a écrit :

Nothing Works. I installed the two versions but nothing. It only makesthe sound when I go into theSeacities.Afterwards the setting is unavailable. Hope to get it fixed son!

 

                                                                                              Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10

 

De: Adriano Barbieri via Groups.Io
Enviado: martes, 7 de mayo de 2019 04:56 p. m.
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Asunto: Re: [nvda] Weather_Plus 6.0 available

 

Hi,

 

I have fixed 2 bugs recently.

download again, remove any Weather_Plus version and install again Weather_Plus 6.0.

http://www.nvda.it/files/plugin/weather_plus6.0.nvda-addon

Let them know

 

Regards

Adriano

Il 07/05/2019 22:46, Jarek.Krcmar ha scritto:

Greetings,

I have problem with the Weather plus.

I could start it, Windows has seen it not anyway.

So, I have uninstalled and installed Nvda and than Weather plus.

But I can't set my town.

Where is a problem, please?

Could you help me?

Sincerely:

Jarek

Dne 07-05-2019 v 12:30 Adriano Barbieri via Groups.Io napsal(a):


Hi to every one,


Note for those who were using versions 5 of Weather_Plus (Apixu API)::

The list of cities you have is not compatible with this new version, don't worry, Weather_Plus will allow you to retrieve them via the settings window.

Changes in this version:

??? Weather Plus returns to using the Yahoo Weather API.
??? Virtually all the features of the previous version 4.8 are back and keeps the "Rename" button.

??? Now compatible also with Python 3.

??? NVDA compatibility: 2017.3 to 2019.1

Weather_Plus can update itself, however you can download it from the following page:

http://www.nvda.it/files/plugin/weather_plus6.0.nvda-addon

Thanks in advance Noelia, Remy, Abdel, and Svonimir for yoursgreat commitment to include Weather_Plus in the automatic translation system and restoring the download link on the international page.


Best regards

Adriano Barbieri

 

 

 

 


Re: Weather_Plus 6.0 available

abdul muhamin
 

Hi. The file is missing. Please fix

 

Sent from Mail for Windows 10

 

From: Rémy Ruiz
Sent: Thursday, May 9, 2019 7:57 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Weather_Plus 6.0 available

 

Hi friend Gerardo,

Put the log in debug mode to see the general option in NVDA, press the NVDA+F1 key, save this file and give it a name.log and then send the log to Adriano, you have his mail in the readme.html, or via the addon page. Thanks for your comments always useful.

Greetings.

Rémy

Le 09/05/2019 à 16:21, Gerardo Corripio a écrit :

Bravo bravo! It worked! Disregard the previous Email I’d sent a few minutes ago, about even though this morning updated to Weather Plus 6.2, it still didn’t work. Nevertheless I’d like a refresher on if this ever happens again, how would I extract the log, and send it through here? So far Weather Plus is awesome! Keep up the great work!

 

                                                                                              Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10

 

De: Rémy Ruiz
Enviado: miércoles, 8 de mayo de 2019 11:54 a. m.
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Asunto: Re: [nvda] Weather_Plus 6.0 available

 

Hi Gerardo,

Can you please download this version 6.1, is the last version available;

http://www.nvda.it/files/plugin/weather_plus6.1.nvda-addon

 

I add only for those who still have problems, as already suggested by someone to go it:
1. press left windows key+r.
2. paste the line:
%appdata%\nvda\
3. delete the file weather.ini.
4. Press nvda+ctrl+f3 and reconfigure the add-on normally.http://www.nvda.it/files/plugin/weather_plus6.1.nvda-addon
Thanks.
Rémy

Le 08/05/2019 à 02:04, Gerardo Corripio a écrit :

Nothing Works. I installed the two versions but nothing. It only makesthe sound when I go into theSeacities.Afterwards the setting is unavailable. Hope to get it fixed son!

 

                                                                                              Enviado desde Correo para Windows 10

 

De: Adriano Barbieri via Groups.Io
Enviado: martes, 7 de mayo de 2019 04:56 p. m.
Para: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Asunto: Re: [nvda] Weather_Plus 6.0 available

 

Hi,

 

I have fixed 2 bugs recently.

download again, remove any Weather_Plus version and install again Weather_Plus 6.0.

http://www.nvda.it/files/plugin/weather_plus6.0.nvda-addon

Let them know

 

Regards

Adriano

Il 07/05/2019 22:46, Jarek.Krcmar ha scritto:

Greetings,

I have problem with the Weather plus.

I could start it, Windows has seen it not anyway.

So, I have uninstalled and installed Nvda and than Weather plus.

But I can't set my town.

Where is a problem, please?

Could you help me?

Sincerely:

Jarek

Dne 07-05-2019 v 12:30 Adriano Barbieri via Groups.Io napsal(a):


Hi to every one,


Note for those who were using versions 5 of Weather_Plus (Apixu API)::

The list of cities you have is not compatible with this new version, don't worry, Weather_Plus will allow you to retrieve them via the settings window.

Changes in this version:

??? Weather Plus returns to using the Yahoo Weather API.
??? Virtually all the features of the previous version 4.8 are back and keeps the "Rename" button.

??? Now compatible also with Python 3.

??? NVDA compatibility: 2017.3 to 2019.1

Weather_Plus can update itself, however you can download it from the following page:

http://www.nvda.it/files/plugin/weather_plus6.0.nvda-addon

Thanks in advance Noelia, Remy, Abdel, and Svonimir for yoursgreat commitment to include Weather_Plus in the automatic translation system and restoring the download link on the international page.


Best regards

Adriano Barbieri

 

 

 

 


Re: NVDA remote

 

Agreed. Don't know why they haven't done it this way. It would make life much easier :)

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy

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Re: NVDA remote

Antony Stone
 

It strikes me that it would be better for NVDA Remote to send not the
keystrokes themselves, which then need to be interpreted by the remote
machine, and rely on it having the same NVDA keyboard layout setting, but
instead to send the NVDA commands which result from those keystrokes, so that
the person on the controlling computer types some key combination on their
keyboard, and the command which this combination means to then gets sent to
the controlled computer, without caring what keyboard language or layout it
has.

Antony.

On Friday 10 May 2019 at 11:01:42, Chris Mullins wrote:

Hi

I don’t know what what the @Luke etc references are because I’m a dinosaur
and have no interest in Twitter or Facebook but I’m confused by the
references to keypads. To use NVDA remote, both parties should have NVDA
configured to use the same keyboard layout and language, irrespective of
the physical computers. Think about it, the controlling is sending
keystrokes to the controlled computer, so it has to cbe configured to
understand those keystrokes.

To check what NVDA version is being used, press NVDA+f1 to open the log
file, move to the top of the log file and use the down arrow to scroll a
few lines down and there is a message stating the version of NVDA being
used.

Cheers

Chris
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ján
Kulik Sent: 10 May 2019 09:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA remote

hi,

@Luke: He has the latest version of this add-on installed, so I didn't
require it from him. He does not know much about these things, so I say
that his teacher has set it up for him.

@Kevin: So in the hint it is possible that we both have a keypad, that is,
a deskstop or a laptop.
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Re: Proposal to set NVDA's desktop layout object navigation keys to be active in desktop layout only

Luke Davis
 

On Fri, 10 May 2019, Quentin Christensen wrote:

Yes, you can make arguments for and against all of those points (for instance, I still don't see my proposal as restricting functionality, as there would
still be at least ONE way of doing everything still at any given time), but there is no single solution that is going to work for everyone.  Yes it can be
useful to be able to do something from the number if you are there, or from the main keyboard, if you are there, but the intention of laptop keyboard layout
was to provide the ability to access all NVDA functions for those using laptops which didn't have number pads - it wasn't supposed to be just a way of
duplicating functionality [.]
What I need to do, is work out what the best setup is for the majority of users, out of the box, and the easiest way to adjust the functionality for those
who desire that [.]
In another message (a few minutes ago), I proposed (1) adopting your proposal, which is still the most reasonable starting position, as the default; (2) then providing two checkboxes under keyboard options, to customize for users who want that. Lastly I added (3) an unassigned gesture to switch the numpad to the other state on the fly.

I say now: if you are concerned about simplicity, why not do (1) and (3), and eliminate (2)? That would have your proposal as the default (numpad nav in desktop, default numpad in laptop), and allow users who want it, and understand what they need, to make a keystroke (gesture) to toggle the state of the numpad in whatever layout their in. Hidden from those who would be confused, but there for those who need advanced configurations; and the default would behave as one would expect. No extra checkboxes, and still only two layouts needed.

Make that toggle state save with saved settings for those users who want to set one unusual config and forget it.

Luke


Re: Proposal to set NVDA's desktop layout object navigation keys to be active in desktop layout only

Luke Davis
 

Responding to Ed Marquette's point: you would need a 4th, as Gene described, so that people who want desktop layout but don't want the numpad to act as review/object nav controls, can have that option.

So instead of all of these different intricate keyboard layout choices, it would seem more reasonable to me to keep the two current layouts, but have now two checkboxes under keyboard:

Numpad controls NVDA cursers in laptop layout (default to off)
Numpad controls NVDA cursers in desktop layout (default to on)

This would provide all possible options, without requiring a plethora of layout choices. It would also keep the setting from reverting when you changed keyboard layout choices--you would just get whatever functionality you had your checkboxes set to.

I would suggest further a keyboard shortcut to toggle numpad nav no matter what layout you're in, unassigned by default. That covers those who like to change their numpad functionality on the fly, but wouldn't get in the way of people who have no idea what this is all about.

Luke

On Thu, 9 May 2019, Ed Marquette wrote:

You may want to consider those of us who use a laptop, but who frequently either plug in a USP keyboard with a full number ped or plug the laptop into a
port replication device and use a dedicated full keyboard with a number pad.
We frequently carry the laptop back and forth, using either the built-in keyboard with no number pad  or use the external keyboard.  For this reason, I like
to keep the laptop set to laptop mode, but just use the separate number pad if it is   available.
Sometimes, when I’m concentrating, I forget what is actually enabled.  So, if laptop keyboard is always engaged and I have a full keyboard, I just use the
separate number pad, and use the laptop navigation keys either when there is no separate number pad  or when I’m just concentrating.
Why not have an option three, e.g.:
1.  Laptop mode (with number pad functions disabled);
2.  Desktop; and
3.  Laptop with number pad still enabled?


Re: NVDA remote

Chris Mullins
 

Hi

I don’t know what what the @Luke etc references are because I’m a dinosaur and have no interest in Twitter or Facebook but I’m confused by the references to keypads.  To use NVDA remote, both parties should have NVDA configured to use the same keyboard layout and language, irrespective of the physical computers.  Think about it, the controlling is sending keystrokes to the controlled computer, so it has to cbe configured to understand those keystrokes.     

 

To check what NVDA version is being used, press NVDA+f1 to open the log file, move to the top of the log file and use the down arrow to scroll a few lines down and there is a message stating the version of NVDA being used.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Ján Kulik
Sent: 10 May 2019 09:26
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] NVDA remote

 

hi,

@Luke: He has the latest version of this add-on installed, so I didn't require it from him. He does not know much about these things, so I say that his teacher has set it up for him.

@Kevin: So in the hint it is possible that we both have a keypad, that is, a deskstop or a laptop.


Re: Bad boots of NVDA

Chris Mullins
 

Hi roger

The quickest way to it is to press Windows+r to open the run dialog.  Type in %tmp% and press enter.  This will open file explorer in the folder where the nvda logs can be found.  Note, you need to have set your Windows system to “show hidden files and folders” in order to acces this data.

 

Cheers

Chris

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Roger Stewart
Sent: 9 May 2019 20:34
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] Bad boots of NVDA

 

How and where would I find an old log file? I thought that file was dumped when nvda is shut down and a new one started the next time nvda is run.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

On 5/9/2019 2:08 PM, Sarah k Alawami wrote:

Can you type nvda -r in the run dialogue and restart tyat way? Then pull up a old log file and set the text to the list?

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On 9 May 2019, at 10:57, Jackie wrote:

Well, ahem. That didn't work for me either.

On 5/9/19, Brice Mijares bricemijares@... wrote:

I realized I forgot to mention the alt key. Also, it don't allays work.

On 5/9/2019 10:36 AM, Jackie wrote:

That certainly was ineffective when I attempted it. You really meant
NVDA key + n, Bryce?

On 5/9/19, Brice Mijares bricemijares@... wrote:

This also happens to me maybe once a week. Usually holding down the
NVDA key and tapping the letter N twice will reboot NVDA. H T H.

On 5/9/2019 10:04 AM, Roger Stewart wrote:

I've been noticing that somewhat often now, whenever I boot up my
computer, nvda comes on, but all its hotkeys are dead. I can't even use
nvda q to try to restart it. I have a P View utility that shows all
processes running and can offer to stop any of them. I can then stop
NVDA and then start it with its normal hotkey and then all is good.
This
is the only way I can get it going correctly aside from a total reboot.
This has happened 3 times over the past week.  Does anyone know what
causes this and is there any better way of getting out of this?

Thanks.

Roger

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Re: Bad boots of NVDA

 

Luke,
And thus ends your vintage early 90s DOS lesson for the day, LOL.
Thanks a lot for the lesson, hehe.
I've worked with DOS a few times but it wasn't nothing more than little simple codes. However I love to learn about this old but useful thing!
Now, I'll finish reading some emails and do me homework. LOL

Cheers,
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Re: Proposal to set NVDA's desktop layout object navigation keys to be active in desktop layout only

 

Quentin,
Would that break how you currently use NVDA?  Since you said your number pad isn't working, it sounds like it shouldn't make a difference, but maybe I didn't explain it well to begin with.
Ah, never mind it. It was a misinterpretation on my side.
It's indeed not going to affect me.

Thanks for the patience as I sometimes am a bit slow for understanding things. LOL

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Re: NVDA remote

Ján Kulik
 

hi,
@Luke: He has the latest version of this add-on installed, so I didn't require it from him. He does not know much about these things, so I say that his teacher has set it up for him.
@Kevin: So in the hint it is possible that we both have a keypad, that is, a deskstop or a laptop.