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Nvda, Total Commander and its' panels

Jarek.Krcmar
 

Greetings to all
I have both Free Commander and Total Commander installed on my computer.
I thought Nvda would announce the panels at Total Commander, but it wasn't.
When I press Nvda + T, only the Total Commander window is reported. The Tab key does not report panels.
So I want to ask if any of you are using Total Commander, and whether it will ever be implemented into Nvda by announcing panels in Total Commander.
Regards:
Jarek
New add-on for Brother Utilities app

Rui Fontes
 

Hello!

It is available an add-on to labell the buttons of this app, used for the Broter printers and multifunctionals and to gave some hints...

The code is available in:
https://github.com/ruifontes/BrLauncher

Direct download:
https://github.com/ruifontes/BrLauncher/releases/download/1.0/BrLauncher-1.0.nvda-addon

Best regards,

Rui Fontes
NVDA portuguese team
Tiflotecnia, Lda.
Re: waterfox alpha is out

g melconian <gmelconian619@...>
 

please do let us know or what waterfall hikes and waterfalls classic a z test done with nvda. I would welcome your input on the matter I do have water fox56 space on your recommendations and will not update till you say it's worth to update to the latest waterfalls classical what stocks thank you

On May 17, 2019 11:53:12 PM "Shaun Everiss" <sm.everiss@...> wrote:

Hi all.

This is not strictly an nvda issue, however I know a lot of us use this
so I thought I'd put it out.

Waterfox 68 alpha1 is out.

From inital useage the only major issue I found is that extentions
seems to not be accessible or at least none of my addons show.

I assume it uses the newer quantom inaccessible interfface sadly.

However, it appears that the older waterfox while itself will be
eventually dieing when 68.0 comes out is not going away in fact
according to the waterfox blog its going to be called waterfox classic,
and will remain being updated with security and bugfix updates when
possible, there won't be any schedual as such but both branches will be
active, its just that eventually all addons will be updated for the
alpha version.

According to the blog, there are addons updating, it stresses its the
first alpha.

I don't have any way to contact the devs directly about us screen reader
users but it would be good to well have them on board.

Unlike firefox quantom it does appear that generally things do load in
an accessible manner but there are a lot of changes under the hood.

I would encourage anyone and everyone to test this.

Its good to know that unlike firefox, all that will happen is that
waterfox will simply split in half.

Waterfox will be modernised and people will be encouraged to use the
latest and greatest.

Waterfox 56.x branch will be renamed waterfox classic and will continue
as it is till the end of time most likely.

Now I will of course see later on if I can update and see what goes and
what loads.

If classic addons work on 68 like noscript 5x or even if some of the
newer stuff is accessible I will try to see what that does.

On the other side, there will not be any reason to keep that version if
its got issues though it would be good to try to nipp as many of these
issues in the bud and I think unlike mozilla and its view on security
and accessibility software the people behind waterfox won't be so stupid
over it.
Re: Bug in Office 2010?

Adriani Botez
 

And please also report on which Windows version you tested.

 

Thanks

Adriani

 

 

Von: adriani.botez@... <adriani.botez@...>
Gesendet: Samstag, 18. Mai 2019 10:24
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Bug in Office 2010?

 

Dear all,

 

could someone please test if following is reproducible in Office 2010?

 

  1. With NVDA running, open an Excel sheet.
  2. Press alt,followed by f, followed by a

 

What should happen: NVDA should read the save as dialog which appears on the screen.

 

What seems to happen: NVDA does not read the save as dialog and you have to press alt+tab twice. After that, NVDA reports it correctly.

 

 

Thanks and best regards

Adriani

 

 

 
Bug in Office 2010?

Adriani Botez
 

Dear all,

 

could someone please test if following is reproducible in Office 2010?

 

  1. With NVDA running, open an Excel sheet.
  2. Press alt,followed by f, followed by a

 

What should happen: NVDA should read the save as dialog which appears on the screen.

 

What seems to happen: NVDA does not read the save as dialog and you have to press alt+tab twice. After that, NVDA reports it correctly.

 

 

Thanks and best regards

Adriani

 

 

 
Re: Code Factory Eloquence won’t load

Sile
 

If the point about the VPN is really true, this is ridiculous. I use Matlab all the time and it can manage this even when a VPN is running.



Sile

On May 17, 2019, at 9:55 PM, Ron Canazzi <aa2vm@...> wrote:

If you are using a VPN, Eloquence/Vocalizer bundle can't phone home to verify your valid license.


On 5/17/2019 10:35 AM, Ed Marquette wrote:
All:
Tell me if I should address this to Code Factory.
About a week ago, I downloaded and commenced using the Code Factory Eloquence (and Vocalizer bundle).
On Monday of this week, I bought the product and received a license code. I downloaded the program and entered the license key when prompted.
I had to adjust speed, pitch, and so forth, but all was well after that.
I shut down my laptop, took it home, and fired it up again at home, using the firm’s VPN.
Today, I get E-Speak. From the Synthesizer menu, I get “Cannot load Code Factory Synthesizer” or something very close.
This could be wrong, but it is almost as if NVDA thinks I’m still using the demo version. Any ideas?
By the way, in the NVDA menu, under Code Factory menu choice, I simply go in a circle and never get to the voice adjustments — as I did yesterday .


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Re: Code Factory Eloquence won’t load

Sile
 

I had a similar issue, and had to contact coat factory and have them re-issue my license key.

Sile

On May 17, 2019, at 10:35 AM, Ed Marquette <marquette.ed@...> wrote:

All:
Tell me if I should address this to Code Factory.
About a week ago, I downloaded and commenced using the Code Factory Eloquence (and Vocalizer bundle).
On Monday of this week, I bought the product and received a license code. I downloaded the program and entered the license key when prompted.
I had to adjust speed, pitch, and so forth, but all was well after that.
I shut down my laptop, took it home, and fired it up again at home, using the firm’s VPN.
Today, I get E-Speak. From the Synthesizer menu, I get “Cannot load Code Factory Synthesizer” or something very close.
This could be wrong, but it is almost as if NVDA thinks I’m still using the demo version. Any ideas?
By the way, in the NVDA menu, under Code Factory menu choice, I simply go in a circle and never get to the voice adjustments — as I did yesterday .
waterfox alpha is out

Shaun Everiss
 

Hi all.

This is not strictly an nvda issue, however I know a lot of us use this so I thought I'd put it out.

Waterfox 68 alpha1 is out.

From inital useage the only major issue I found is that extentions seems to not be accessible or at least none of my addons show.

I assume it uses the newer quantom inaccessible interfface sadly.

However, it appears that the older waterfox while itself will be eventually dieing when 68.0 comes out is not going away in fact according to the waterfox blog its going to be called waterfox classic, and will remain being updated with security and bugfix updates when possible, there won't be any schedual as such but both branches will be active, its just that eventually all addons will be updated for the alpha version.

According to the blog, there are addons updating, it stresses its the first alpha.

I don't have any way to contact the devs directly about us screen reader users but it would be good to well have them on board.

Unlike firefox quantom it does appear that generally things do load in an accessible manner but there are a lot of changes under the hood.

I would encourage anyone and everyone to test this.

Its good to know that unlike firefox, all that will happen is that waterfox will simply split in half.

Waterfox will be modernised and people will be encouraged to use the latest and greatest.

Waterfox 56.x branch will be renamed waterfox classic and will continue as it is till the end of time most likely.

Now I will of course see later on if I can update and see what goes and what loads.

If classic addons work on 68 like noscript 5x or even if some of the newer stuff is accessible I will try to see what that does.

On the other side, there will not be any reason to keep that version if its got issues though it would be good to try to nipp as many of these issues in the bud and I think unlike mozilla and its view on security and accessibility software the people behind waterfox won't be so stupid over it.
Re: Code Factory Eloquence won’t load

Luke Davis
 

Just curious why that would be? The system would still have internet access, and possibly from the original out-going IP address, for that matter.

On Fri, 17 May 2019, Ron Canazzi wrote:

If you are using a VPN, Eloquence/Vocalizer bundle can't phone home to verify your valid license.
Re: Code Factory Eloquence won’t load

Ron Canazzi
 

If you are using a VPN, Eloquence/Vocalizer bundle can't phone home to verify your valid license.

On 5/17/2019 10:35 AM, Ed Marquette wrote:
All:
Tell me if I should address this to Code Factory.
About a week ago, I downloaded and commenced using the Code Factory Eloquence (and Vocalizer bundle).
On Monday of this week, I bought the product and received a license code. I downloaded the program and entered the license key when prompted.
I had to adjust speed, pitch, and so forth, but all was well after that.
I shut down my laptop, took it home, and fired it up again at home, using the firm’s VPN.
Today, I get E-Speak. From the Synthesizer menu, I get “Cannot load Code Factory Synthesizer” or something very close.
This could be wrong, but it is almost as if NVDA thinks I’m still using the demo version. Any ideas?
By the way, in the NVDA menu, under Code Factory menu choice, I simply go in a circle and never get to the voice adjustments — as I did yesterday .


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They ask: "How Happy are You?"
I Say: "I'm as happy as a stow away chimpanzee on a banana boat!"
locked Re: O/T What happened to the blind programming list?

Brian Vogel
 

This is yet another example of precisely why the Chat Subgroup was created and its use is being pushed.

Although I sincerely hope that someone can help Mr. Burggraaf in locating the current residence of the list he alludes to, it is entirely off-topic for this list and prepending "O/T" doesn't make it any less so.  Should any further discussion of this be desired, please take it to the Chat Subgroup:


This topic is now locked.
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locked O/T What happened to the blind programming list?

erik burggraaf <erik@...>
 

Hi, does any one know where the blind programming onelist group went?

I haven't seen mail from them in months. I recently sent subscribe messages from two email accounts thinking that a glitch in my email might have caused me to be unsubscribed for bouncing, but neither account gets a response.

Any help off list would be greatly appreciated.

Thanks,

Erik
Code Factory Eloquence won’t load

Ed Marquette
 

All:
Tell me if I should address this to Code Factory.
About a week ago, I downloaded and commenced using the Code Factory Eloquence (and Vocalizer bundle).
On Monday of this week, I bought the product and received a license code. I downloaded the program and entered the license key when prompted.
I had to adjust speed, pitch, and so forth, but all was well after that.
I shut down my laptop, took it home, and fired it up again at home, using the firm’s VPN.
Today, I get E-Speak. From the Synthesizer menu, I get “Cannot load Code Factory Synthesizer” or something very close.
This could be wrong, but it is almost as if NVDA thinks I’m still using the demo version. Any ideas?
By the way, in the NVDA menu, under Code Factory menu choice, I simply go in a circle and never get to the voice adjustments — as I did yesterday .
checking the check boxes in ccleaner

Brian Moore
 

Hi all.  So in the last several versions of Ccleaner, the checked state of the toggles for which items you want cleaned haven't read with NVDA.


Just reinstalled a fresh windows 10 on a machine and now I can't tell which is checked and not by default.  I usually make lots of changes particularly in the advanced section and the apps section.

Has anyone worked this out?


If so, how do you tell the state of these pretend check boxes?

Thanks.

Brian.

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Re: Nvda and Free Commander

Jacob Kruger
 

Jarek, it will only announce the current folder/directory that the current panel is focused on/browsing.


That's what was saying yesterday with regards to the golden cursor add-on allowing me to route mouse cursor to focus object, and then check mouse coordinates, to tell if it was to the left or the right.


So, there's no specific way to get it to tell you if free commander refers to it as panel 1 or panel 2.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
082 413 4791
"Resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2019-05-17 12:10 PM, Jarek.Krcmar wrote:
Hi Marcio,

if I press in the Free Commander the keys Nvda+T, Nvda doesn't anounce to me the left and right panel.

Jarek

Dne 17-05-2019 v 11:55 Marcio via Groups.Io napsal(a):
Jarek,
could you tell me, how can I find the windows tittle?
Being on the window you want to know the title, NVDA+T.

Cheers,
Marcio <https://tinyurl.com/TlkTM>
AKA /Starboy/


Sent from a galaxy far, far away.

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Re: Nvda and Free Commander

Gene
 

I don't use the program but can you move from panel to panel in any way, such as with f6?  If so, is what you see restricted to whatever panel you can move to? 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
Sent: Friday, May 17, 2019 5:10 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] Nvda and Free Commander

Hi Marcio,

if I press in the Free Commander the keys Nvda+T, Nvda doesn't anounce
to me the left and right panel.

Jarek

Dne 17-05-2019 v 11:55 Marcio via Groups.Io napsal(a):
> Jarek,
>> could you tell me, how can I find the windows tittle?
> Being on the window you want to know the title, NVDA+T.
>
> Cheers,
> Marcio <https://tinyurl.com/TlkTM>
> AKA /Starboy/
>
>
> Sent from a galaxy far, far away.
>
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Re: Nvda and Free Commander

Jacob Kruger
 

NVDA key + T = "Reports the title of the current application or foreground window."


Jacob Kruger
082 413 4791
"Resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."

On 2019-05-17 11:37 AM, Jarek.Krcmar wrote:
Hi Jacob,

could you tell me, how can I find the windows tittle?

Jarek

Dne 16-05-2019 v 22:21 Jacob Kruger napsal(a):
I was specifically talking about just using the window title announcement, and, the reason I mentioned operating system, etc. is that under windows 10, it's just possible the windows 10 app essentials add-on would be sort of required to have it work a bit better.


However, like mentioned as well, I rarely even fire up free commander, so, sorry - can't be much more help.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2019-05-16 9:58 PM, Jarek.Krcmar wrote:
No,

I have tried the object navigation, Nvda said me all, but without information about panels.

No announciation.

I have Free Commander version 2019.


Jarek

Dne 16-05-2019 v 16:06 Jacob Kruger napsal(a):
No specific add-on involved, and, NVDA + T would generally just announce the window title?


BTW, let me double-check that we're talking about same file manager - I'm occasionally working with FreeCommander XE version 2018.0.0.770:

https://freecommander.com/en/summary/


By the way, am also working under windows 10 64 bit, so, yes, I do have the windows 10 app essentials add-on installed, but, also don't think that's really relevant.


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
"Resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2019-05-16 3:24 PM, Jarek.Krcmar wrote:
Hi Jacob,

do you know the addon?

If I press Nvda+t, nothing is told me.

Jarek

Dne 16-05-2019 v 10:47 Jacob Kruger napsal(a):
Not really relevant, but, just used golden cursor to tell me which panel I was in - tabbed over to one after the other, routed mouse cursor to where was focused, and then asked golden cursor add-on to tell me mouse coordinates.


But, have never really bothered - I just use NVDA key + T to get it to tell me the title of the window, which tells me which of the panels I am focused on..


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
082 413 4791
"Resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2019-05-16 9:42 AM, Jarek.Krcmar wrote:
Hi Jacob,

I never know, which panel in Free Commander is opened.

Which key may I press to find out it.

Jarek

Dne 16-05-2019 v 08:03 Jacob Kruger napsal(a):
If I play around with free commander - been a little while - I think I used to check window title to find out which panel had focus.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2019-05-15 10:06 PM, Jarek.Krcmar wrote:
Hi Group Nvda,
I use Free Commander for free on my computer.
To switch between individual panels, press Tab.
However, Nvda does not tell me which panel I am in.
Free Commander is available at:
http://freecommander.com
I wonder if there will ever be a sound system for Free Commander implemented in Nvda.
(I'm talking about the sound so Nvda can tell me in Free Commander the left and right panels.)
Jarek
Re: Nvda and Free Commander

Jarek.Krcmar
 

Hi Marcio,

if I press in the Free Commander the keys Nvda+T, Nvda doesn't anounce to me the left and right panel.

Jarek

Dne 17-05-2019 v 11:55 Marcio via Groups.Io napsal(a):

Jarek,
could you tell me, how can I find the windows tittle?
Being on the window you want to know the title, NVDA+T.

Cheers,
Marcio <https://tinyurl.com/TlkTM>
AKA /Starboy/


Sent from a galaxy far, far away.

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Re: Nvda and Free Commander

Marcio
 

Jarek,
could you tell me, how can I find the windows tittle?
Being on the window you want to know the title, NVDA+T.

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy

Sent from a galaxy far, far away.

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Re: Nvda and Free Commander

Jarek.Krcmar
 

Hi Jacob,

could you tell me, how can I find the windows tittle?

Jarek

Dne 16-05-2019 v 22:21 Jacob Kruger napsal(a):

I was specifically talking about just using the window title announcement, and, the reason I mentioned operating system, etc. is that under windows 10, it's just possible the windows 10 app essentials add-on would be sort of required to have it work a bit better.


However, like mentioned as well, I rarely even fire up free commander, so, sorry - can't be much more help.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2019-05-16 9:58 PM, Jarek.Krcmar wrote:
No,

I have tried the object navigation, Nvda said me all, but without information about panels.

No announciation.

I have Free Commander version 2019.


Jarek

Dne 16-05-2019 v 16:06 Jacob Kruger napsal(a):
No specific add-on involved, and, NVDA + T would generally just announce the window title?


BTW, let me double-check that we're talking about same file manager - I'm occasionally working with FreeCommander XE version 2018.0.0.770:

https://freecommander.com/en/summary/


By the way, am also working under windows 10 64 bit, so, yes, I do have the windows 10 app essentials add-on installed, but, also don't think that's really relevant.


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
"Resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2019-05-16 3:24 PM, Jarek.Krcmar wrote:
Hi Jacob,

do you know the addon?

If I press Nvda+t, nothing is told me.

Jarek

Dne 16-05-2019 v 10:47 Jacob Kruger napsal(a):
Not really relevant, but, just used golden cursor to tell me which panel I was in - tabbed over to one after the other, routed mouse cursor to where was focused, and then asked golden cursor add-on to tell me mouse coordinates.


But, have never really bothered - I just use NVDA key + T to get it to tell me the title of the window, which tells me which of the panels I am focused on..


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
082 413 4791
"Resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2019-05-16 9:42 AM, Jarek.Krcmar wrote:
Hi Jacob,

I never know, which panel in Free Commander is opened.

Which key may I press to find out it.

Jarek

Dne 16-05-2019 v 08:03 Jacob Kruger napsal(a):
If I play around with free commander - been a little while - I think I used to check window title to find out which panel had focus.


Stay well


Jacob Kruger
Blind Biker
Skype: BlindZA
"...resistance is futile...but, acceptance is versatile..."
On 2019-05-15 10:06 PM, Jarek.Krcmar wrote:
Hi Group Nvda,
I use Free Commander for free on my computer.
To switch between individual panels, press Tab.
However, Nvda does not tell me which panel I am in.
Free Commander is available at:
http://freecommander.com
I wonder if there will ever be a sound system for Free Commander implemented in Nvda.
(I'm talking about the sound so Nvda can tell me in Free Commander the left and right panels.)
Jarek
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