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Re: Bug in Office 2010?

Adriani Botez
 

Hey Quentin,

 

thank very much for your answer. It is the first. The window appears but it is unresponsive until you press alt+tab twice. It occurs only in excel, also with the open dialog. I cannot reproduce this issue myself but we are trying to help someone to find the cause for this issue on his PC. See also issue

https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/9374

 

 

Best

Adriani

 

 

 

Von: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> Im Auftrag von Quentin Christensen
Gesendet: Montag, 20. Mai 2019 03:49
An: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Betreff: Re: [nvda] Bug in Office 2010?

 

Hi Adriani,

 

Is it that the window is appearing but not responsive until you alt+tab away and back?  Or that it takes a little while to appear and it just happens that by the time you alt+tab away and back it has appeared?

 

This can happen if you have network drives that can take a few seconds to respond.  If you press F12 it should also bring up the same dialog.

 

If it is the save as dialog, that should be a relatively standard dialog.  If you try opening it from elsewhere such as Notepad, does it respond instantly?

 

Finally, if you set your NVDA log to "debug", it should show more information and may give some more insight into what is happening.  Press NVDA+control+g to open the NVDA general settings and tab to "log level".

 

You can access the log with NVDA+F1 and then copy it into an email.

 

Kind regards

 

Quentin.

 

On Sat, May 18, 2019 at 6:24 PM Adriani Botez <adriani.botez@...> wrote:

Dear all,

 

could someone please test if following is reproducible in Office 2010?

 

  1. With NVDA running, open an Excel sheet.
  2. Press alt,followed by f, followed by a

 

What should happen: NVDA should read the save as dialog which appears on the screen.

 

What seems to happen: NVDA does not read the save as dialog and you have to press alt+tab twice. After that, NVDA reports it correctly.

 

 

Thanks and best regards

Adriani

 

 

 


 

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Re: chrome ??

Danni
 

Thanks this all helps so much!

----- Original Message -----
From: Gene
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2019 6:37 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] chrome ??

You can use the command control tab to move from one tab to the next, which is equivalent to alt tabbing through different browser windows.  You don't have to use number commands unless you want to.  Also, since you can close the tab you are in with control f4, that is equivalent to closing one window with alt f4 while the other opened windows in the program remain opened.
 
If you have a lot of pages displayed, its better to use tabs.  If only a small number, it doesn't matter which you use.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, May 20, 2019 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] chrome ??

Hi


Best bet is for you to go into the settings of chrome and set it to open windows instead of tabs it is much better.


Otherwise if it opens up a new tab each time to flip between them use the ctrl key + 1 to 9 been the 9th page.



I think the section you need is on start up under settings and get it to open a new page and put in a web address then it should be opening in a window if i remember right.



Have a look under my nvda tutorials for other programs page there is a tutorial on how to do that and do a home page etc.


Gene nz


On 21/05/2019 10:51 AM, Danni wrote:
 
I'm having issues with internet explorer so am trying to use chrome but I can't figure out how to get out of a link?
 
I'm not sure how to word this correctly but basically if I use i/e or ff I can click a link and either click alt f4 "i/e" or alt key and close "ff" but can't seem to figure out a way to do that in chrome without closing the whole brouser?
 
am sure it's a simple thing but am blank?
 
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Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
 
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa).
To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
 

To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
 
To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: NVDA and MSWord Tutorials?

Ed Marquette
 

You have asked several questions. As for tutorials on MS Word, the NV Access productivity package is excellent. The package bundles several Microsoft Office products, but I am sure you can buy them separately.
I recommend, at least, basic NVDA and NVDA for Microsoft Word. It certainly highlights NVDA, but it also illustrat4es a great deal about the use of MS Word.
As for checking your formatting, you can set NVDA to tell you things like color, style, attributes, spacing, indentation, and so on.
You should have no excuse for poorly formatted documents.
As for track changes and grammar checking, control plus shift plus E turns on and off the function. It lets you hear what has been added and deleted. You can jump from revision to revision, accept or reject, or edit. Check out the “Review” tab on the top of the menu.
NVDA does a brilliant job of reporting track changes.
As for grammar, you should really learn for yourself. Word has a grammar checker, and you can turn it on so that it reports “grammar errors” as you type (not recommended) or as you run the spell checker (F7).
The Word grammar check is really very basic and not very good. For instance, it misses Oxford Comma omissions, possessives with plural nouns, and split infinitives. Those are just a few. Still, the grammar checker will catch the most outrageous mistakes though it sometimes flags errors that are not errors.
Again, the best thing you can do is to buy those tutorials from NV Access. They are EXCELLENT!
k

On May 21, 2019, at 4:20 AM, David Russell <david.sonofhashem@...> wrote:

Hello NVDA Group,

As some of you know, one of my avocations is that I am a short story
writer. I am learning equally as much about writing as mechanics being
totally blind from infancy.
Jarte and MS Word 2013 are my primary processing programs. My
volunteer editors are sighted, and bring up something that evades my
understanding: the need to format something I send before they can
edit.
Hence, my questions are these:
1. Recommended tutorials for MS Word and maybe even something called
MS Track Changes?
2. How can I use NVDA to set my MS Word program to alert me of
grammar issues when writing?

This may be a lot but hope you can see the pattern and perhaps respond
accordingly; big thanks!

--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@...



Re: NVDA and MSWord Tutorials?

Monte Single
 

Hi david,

Go to the nvda website at;

Nvaccess.net

Click on the store link and there you will find a m s word tutorial. I think it is in both text and audio format. It costs about 23 u s dollars.
I don't know if it will answer all your questions, I purchased it and it tells me more about m s word than I need to know.

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of David Russell
Sent: May-21-19 3:21 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and MSWord Tutorials?

Hello NVDA Group,

As some of you know, one of my avocations is that I am a short story writer. I am learning equally as much about writing as mechanics being totally blind from infancy.
Jarte and MS Word 2013 are my primary processing programs. My volunteer editors are sighted, and bring up something that evades my
understanding: the need to format something I send before they can edit.
Hence, my questions are these:
1. Recommended tutorials for MS Word and maybe even something called MS Track Changes?
2. How can I use NVDA to set my MS Word program to alert me of grammar issues when writing?

This may be a lot but hope you can see the pattern and perhaps respond accordingly; big thanks!

--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@...


Re: NVDAConcall for topics letter.

 

Laura,
There is an entire conversation along with your email. I strongly believe this was unintentional and you overlooked it, that's why I'm letting you know.

Cheers,
Marcio AKA Starboy

Sent from a galaxy far, far away.

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NVDAConcall for topics letter.

lauracornwell
 

Hello:

 

The NVDACon International planning committee would like to invite you to submit session topics for the upcoming NVDA community conference (NVDACon).

The conference will be held in August of 2019.

 

NVDA - Nonvisual Desktop Access, is a piece of software which changes thousands of lives of visually impaired and blind people worldwide. As an open source project, NVDA is backed by a fantastic community. The NVDA community is unique by the fact that visually impaired and non visually impaired people work together to improve accessibility on Windows and to boost efficiency when working with third party applications. NVDA is not only a piece of software, it is a social movement which has spread around the world.

This amazing event, which underpins the social interaction between users, developers, institutions and stakeholders, is a NVDA community conference (NVDACon). Every year, the stakeholders in this community meet at this online conference and discuss or present interesting topics related to accessibility and the NVDA screen reader.

 

If you or an organization you represent are interested in presenting an exciting topic about NVDA, please submit your topic to info@... by June 30th, 2019.

 

There are two presentation types available for NVDACon:

1.    Lightning talk: a fifteen to thirty minutes talk, with limited time

available for questions and answers. In one session there will be two or three lightning talks.

2.    Full length session: this is usually a presentation for sixty or

ninety minutes. Full sessions are great for a more in depth topic which is covered in more detail.

 

We are looking forward to your topic proposals.

 

Sincerely,

NVDACon Planning Committee

 

 

you can go to NVdAcon.org. or on twitter @NVdaCon.

 

-----Original Message-----

From: julie@... <julie@...>

Sent: Monday, May 20, 2019 12:47 PM

To: 'lauracornwell' <lauracornwell1@...>

Subject: RE: Are you listening to my last show on the mix ?

 

What do you mean?

 

-----Original Message-----

From: lauracornwell <lauracornwell1@...>

Sent: Monday, May 20, 2019 1:37 PM

To: julie@...

Subject: RE: Are you listening to my last show on the mix ?

 

OK I will get to it. Also  would you all take stuff for promos?

 

-----Original Message-----

From: julie@... <julie@...>

Sent: Monday, May 20, 2019 12:35 PM

To: 'lauracornwell' <lauracornwell1@...>

Subject: RE: Are you listening to my last show on the mix ?

 

I need you to send me the nvda stuff in a document and put it in the dj's drop box. I can't open your attachment

 

-----Original Message-----

From: lauracornwell <lauracornwell1@...>

Sent: Monday, May 20, 2019 1:33 PM

To: julie@...

Subject: RE: Are you listening to my last show on the mix ?

 

Sorry about that I understand that will not happen again. You came to me and I will do my best to make things right.

also after todays show  I will be working hard on NVDACon stuff on Mondays so I may not be able to do my show from 1/3  untell after NVDACon. But I still want to do it for you. 

 

-----Original Message-----

From: julie@... <julie@...>

Sent: Monday, May 20, 2019 12:26 PM

To: 'lauracornwell' <lauracornwell1@...>

Subject: RE: Are you listening to my last show on the mix ?

 

Laura,

 

Please do me a favor. Don't jump on me when I come onto the site. I was just leaving when you said hello and I didn't mean not to talk to you but I was not staying. If I stay, I will come into the room and talk.

 

Sorry, no I'm not listening, I can't find that place.

 

 

From: lauracornwell <lauracornwell1@...>

Sent: Monday, May 20, 2019 1:14 PM

To: julie@...

Subject: Are you listening to my last show on the mix ?

 

 

Hey there, are you lissenning to the show on the mix now? Well I hope  that you are I will take request  ..

 

 

 

 

 

 


NVDA and MSWord Tutorials?

David Russell
 

Hello NVDA Group,

As some of you know, one of my avocations is that I am a short story
writer. I am learning equally as much about writing as mechanics being
totally blind from infancy.
Jarte and MS Word 2013 are my primary processing programs. My
volunteer editors are sighted, and bring up something that evades my
understanding: the need to format something I send before they can
edit.
Hence, my questions are these:
1. Recommended tutorials for MS Word and maybe even something called
MS Track Changes?
2. How can I use NVDA to set my MS Word program to alert me of
grammar issues when writing?

This may be a lot but hope you can see the pattern and perhaps respond
accordingly; big thanks!

--
David Russell
david.sonofhashem@...


Re: NVDA CodeFactory Vocalizer and Eloquence and NVDA

Vlad Dragomir
 

Thank you Chris, it’s very kind of you to pass on this piece of information. Very useful to me, and I’m sure for others too.

 

Gratefully,

 

Vlad.


Re: chrome ??

Gene
 

You can use the command control tab to move from one tab to the next, which is equivalent to alt tabbing through different browser windows.  You don't have to use number commands unless you want to.  Also, since you can close the tab you are in with control f4, that is equivalent to closing one window with alt f4 while the other opened windows in the program remain opened.
 
If you have a lot of pages displayed, its better to use tabs.  If only a small number, it doesn't matter which you use.
 
Gene
----- Original Message -----

Sent: Monday, May 20, 2019 7:39 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] chrome ??

Hi


Best bet is for you to go into the settings of chrome and set it to open windows instead of tabs it is much better.


Otherwise if it opens up a new tab each time to flip between them use the ctrl key + 1 to 9 been the 9th page.



I think the section you need is on start up under settings and get it to open a new page and put in a web address then it should be opening in a window if i remember right.



Have a look under my nvda tutorials for other programs page there is a tutorial on how to do that and do a home page etc.


Gene nz


On 21/05/2019 10:51 AM, Danni wrote:
 
I'm having issues with internet explorer so am trying to use chrome but I can't figure out how to get out of a link?
 
I'm not sure how to word this correctly but basically if I use i/e or ff I can click a link and either click alt f4 "i/e" or alt key and close "ff" but can't seem to figure out a way to do that in chrome without closing the whole brouser?
 
am sure it's a simple thing but am blank?
 
--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
 
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa).
To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
 

To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
 
To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


NVDA CodeFactory Vocalizer and Eloquence and NVDA

Chris Shook
 

Hi,
Most of the bugs with the Eloquence and Vocalizer for NVDA addon are now fixed in the latest update.
Fixes include, spell check fix. Vocalizer will now read the letters when reading a misspelled word.
Read all command. It appears that the read all command is now working again.
I just thought you'd all like to know.


Re: chrome ??

hurrikennyandopo ...
 

Hi


Best bet is for you to go into the settings of chrome and set it to open windows instead of tabs it is much better.


Otherwise if it opens up a new tab each time to flip between them use the ctrl key + 1 to 9 been the 9th page.



I think the section you need is on start up under settings and get it to open a new page and put in a web address then it should be opening in a window if i remember right.



Have a look under my nvda tutorials for other programs page there is a tutorial on how to do that and do a home page etc.


Gene nz


On 21/05/2019 10:51 AM, Danni wrote:
 
I'm having issues with internet explorer so am trying to use chrome but I can't figure out how to get out of a link?
 
I'm not sure how to word this correctly but basically if I use i/e or ff I can click a link and either click alt f4 "i/e" or alt key and close "ff" but can't seem to figure out a way to do that in chrome without closing the whole brouser?
 
am sure it's a simple thing but am blank?
 
--
Check out my website for NVDA tutorials and other blindness related material at http://www.accessibilitycentral.net
 
Regardless of where you are in New Zealand if you are near one of the APNK sites you can use a copy of the NVDA screen reader on one of their computers. To find out which location (or locations) are nearest to you please visit http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.org/content/partner-libraries (Aotearoa People's Network Kaharoa).
To find out which software is installed on the APNK network please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/software To find out how to use NVDA on APNK computers please visit the following link http://www.aotearoapeoplesnetwork.info/faq/nvda
 

To find out which software is available on the Christchurch City Library network, and how to start the NVDA screen reader, please go to the following links. Software available  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faq/computers/#faq_5884  How to start the NVDA screen reader on Christchurch City Library computers  https://my.christchurchcitylibraries.com/faqs/what-screen-reader-software-is-available/
 
To find an NVDA certified expert near you, please visit the following link https://certification.nvaccess.org/. The certification page contains the official list of NVDA certified individuals from around the world, who have sat and successfully passed the NVDA expert exam.


Re: NVDA will not recognize my registered Eloquence

Ed Marquette
 

If it makes you feel any better, and I am sure it does not, I have the same exact problem.
The only difference is that it was on my office computer, and our information technology specialist did the installation.
I think it must have something to do with the trial period.
I am going to uninstall and eat race all vestiges of code factory.
Then, I am going to install all over again.
I will let you know if that works.



On May 19, 2019, at 11:31 PM, Grant Metcalf <the.gems@...> wrote:

I have purchased Eloquence from A T Guys and registered it.  When trying to install it in NVDA I keep getting the message I need to register my copy. When I enter the LicenseKey NVDA seems to be ignoring it and will not active the Eloquence program and voices. It did work during the trial period which has now expired.
QUESTION! What have I and/or my family members done wrong???!!!
 
Grumpy Grant
 


Re: chrome ??

Danni
 

Thanks so much all!

----- Original Message -----
From: "Ian Westerland" <iwesterl@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2019 4:07 PM
Subject: Re: [nvda] chrome ??



Hello. When clicking a link use shift and enter.

To close the specific link without closing the Browser, control w.

Alt F4 closes the browser.

That is wha I use and I hope it helps you.

Cheers.


Ian Westerland





On 5/21/2019 8:51 AM, Danni wrote:
I'm having issues with internet explorer so am trying to use chrome but I can't figure out how to get out of a link?
I'm not sure how to word this correctly but basically if I use i/e or ff I can click a link and either click alt f4 "i/e" or alt key and close "ff" but can't seem to figure out a way to do that in chrome without closing the whole brouser?
am sure it's a simple thing but am blank?


Re: NVDA will not recognize my registered Eloquence

Sile
 

You’ve done nothing wrong, exactly the same thing happened to me. I had to contact AT guys to get them to reset my registration.

Sile

On May 20, 2019, at 10:36 AM, Rui Fontes <rui.fontes@...> wrote:

Hello!

Firstly, are you talking of Eloquence SAPI5?
Secondly, are you checking if you are pasting the code in the right place and without any space in the end?
Thirdly, you should contact A T Guys, and not the list...

Rui Fontes


Às 05:31 de 20/05/2019, Grant Metcalf escreveu:
*I have purchased Eloquence from A T Guys and registered it. When trying to install it in NVDA I keep getting the message I need to register my copy. When I enter the LicenseKey NVDA seems to be ignoring it and will not active the Eloquence program and voices. It did work during the trial period which has now expired. *
*QUESTION! What have I and/or my family members done wrong???!!!*
*Grumpy Grant*


Re: chrome ??

Gene
 

If it is opening a tab, use control f4.  That is the standard command for closing a tab. 
 
Gene

----- Original Message -----
From: Danni
Sent: Monday, May 20, 2019 5:51 PM
Subject: [nvda] chrome ??

 
I'm having issues with internet explorer so am trying to use chrome but I can't figure out how to get out of a link?
 
I'm not sure how to word this correctly but basically if I use i/e or ff I can click a link and either click alt f4 "i/e" or alt key and close "ff" but can't seem to figure out a way to do that in chrome without closing the whole brouser?
 
am sure it's a simple thing but am blank?
 


Re: chrome ??

Ian Westerland
 

Hello. When clicking a link use shift and enter.

To close the specific link without closing the Browser, control w.

Alt F4 closes the browser.

That is wha I use and I hope it helps you.

Cheers.


Ian Westerland

On 5/21/2019 8:51 AM, Danni wrote:
I'm having issues with internet explorer so am trying to use chrome but I can't figure out how to get out of a link?
I'm not sure how to word this correctly but basically if I use i/e or ff I can click a link and either click alt f4 "i/e" or alt key and close "ff" but can't seem to figure out a way to do that in chrome without closing the whole brouser?
am sure it's a simple thing but am blank?


Re: chrome ??

JM Casey
 

Ctrl-f4 will close a tab.

 

 

From: nvda@nvda.groups.io <nvda@nvda.groups.io> On Behalf Of Danni
Sent: May 20, 2019 6:51 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] chrome ??

 

 

I'm having issues with internet explorer so am trying to use chrome but I can't figure out how to get out of a link?

 

I'm not sure how to word this correctly but basically if I use i/e or ff I can click a link and either click alt f4 "i/e" or alt key and close "ff" but can't seem to figure out a way to do that in chrome without closing the whole brouser?

 

am sure it's a simple thing but am blank?

 


chrome ??

Danni
 

 
I'm having issues with internet explorer so am trying to use chrome but I can't figure out how to get out of a link?
 
I'm not sure how to word this correctly but basically if I use i/e or ff I can click a link and either click alt f4 "i/e" or alt key and close "ff" but can't seem to figure out a way to do that in chrome without closing the whole brouser?
 
am sure it's a simple thing but am blank?
 


Re: NVDA will not recognize my registered Eloquence

mattias
 

Do you meen the codefactory addon?

 

Skickades från E-post för Windows 10

 

Från: Jackie
Skickat: den 20 maj 2019 19:54
Till: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Ämne: Re: [nvda] getting error message 4

 

You really need to take this up w/the folks you bought the product

from, Grant. In final analysis, they're likely the only ones who can

help, & definitively the ones who should.

 

On 5/20/19, Grant Metcalf <the.gems@...> wrote:

> HI list,

> While trying to install Eloquence voices I get the error 4 message which

> tells me I need to register. I have purchased the product and activated it

> on my Win7PC.  Can anybody tell me what the error 4 message means?

> Grant

> Listening for His shout!

>

 

 

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Re: NVDA will not recognize my registered Eloquence

 

Grant,

           I have merged this topic back into your original one asking about the same issue.  Please, in the future, do not introduce new subject lines when talking about the same issue.  It breaks the topic threading both in e-mail clients and in the archive, making it more difficult for future searchers to find an entire conversation under a single topic, which is what's far preferable to split across topics.

           It is still entirely unclear exactly what is giving you the error message (that is, is it NVDA, Eloquence, Windows) and that's essential to know.   If it's not NVDA you will likely have to contact the vendor, though someone may be able to offer something more based on earlier similar experience.

           Unless this error message is coming from NVDA itself, and that seems doubtful, others have given you the correct advice:  this needs to be taken up with the technical support folks of the product giving the error message.  It's not an NVDA problem (or at least very unlikely to be one) if the genesis of the message is not NVDA.

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