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Re: Selecting a block of text.
hi.
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where is caret move cursor in preferences? how can i know whether its activated for me or not?
On 5/22/19, Chris Mullins <cjmullins29@gmail.com> wrote:
Hi --
By God, were I given all the seven heavens with all they contain in order that I may disobey God by depriving an ant from the husk of a grain of barley, I would not do it. imam ali
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Re: NVDA tutorials for MSWord and Track Changes CT
Quentin Christensen
Hi David, If you have a cheat sheet from WebAim on Track Changes, that likely does cover the keystrokes needed. I'm not familiar with the particular sheet although Web Aim do have a good name, so I'm sure it's likely a good reference. One consideration with it might be how much explanation it gives for each keystroke or whether it simply lists the keys to press. One thing with the NV Access material (and full disclosure if it's not already obvious, I wrote the NV Access material), it explains each topic and what the keystrokes do before walking you through a step-by-step activity using them - and in the case of the Office modules, it then also has an extra "bonus activity" with less instruction, you can complete both for extra revision, and also to ensure you do understand the topic before moving on. Kind regards Quentin.
On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 7:13 PM David Russell <david.sonofhashem@...> wrote: Hello NVDA Folks, --
Quentin Christensen Training and Support Manager Official NVDA Training modules and expert certification now available: http://www.nvaccess.org/shop/ Facebook: http://www.facebook.com/NVAccess Twitter: @NVAccess
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Re: Selecting a block of text.
Chris Mullins
Hi I have done some testing and if you set “Caret moves review cursor” (NVDA + 6 on number row), to ON, the copy using review cursor feature works, if it is set to off, it just copies the last character selected to the clipboard.
Cheers Chris
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Quentin Christensen
Sent: 22 May 2019 01:19 To: nvda@nvda.groups.io Cc: NVDA Official Group Subject: Re: [nvda] Selecting a block of text.
Hi Ali,
Firstly, just to confirm that you are familiar with the current behaviour of selecting with the review cursor - NVDA+F9 to mark the start of the block, move to the end of the block and NVDA+F10 once to select the block or NVDA+F10 twice quickly to select and copy it. If you use the review cursor to select and then press control+c to copy for instance, it may not work depending on whether it is possible to select text with the conventional text cursor. If you press NVDA+f10 once and NVDA reports "Cannot select text, press twice to copy", then you will need to copy by pressing NVDA+F10 twice quickly.
It might be worth restarting NVDA with add-ons disabled, just to ensure there are no add-ons playing up. Press NVDA+Q then down arrow to "Restart with add-ons disabled" and press ENTER to restart, then try again.
Otherwise, if you set the log to debug (in the general settings with NVDA+control+g then tab to the log level, down arrow to select debug and enter to close), repeat the actions and then copy the log to an email to me, I can have a look at exactly what is going on.
Kind regards
Quentin.
On Wed, May 22, 2019 at 9:45 AM Ali Colak <alish54@...> wrote:
-- Quentin Christensen
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NVDA tutorials for MSWord and Track Changes CT
David Russell
Hello NVDA Folks,
Thanks for suggesting what to do in the realm of tutorials to better use NVDA with MSWord and Track Changes. I'll address this later in my day. Also, thanks Quenton for clarifying which tutorial set to consider. Question: I have a file card with some basic Track Changes Commands found in a post thread from WEBAIM, telling one how to turn on and off track changes,how to read specific track changes, the dialogue for settings and a couple more. These are Word based keyboard commands generally speaking. Would it be enough to view a free sample edit from a proofreading service, or is there a considerable amount of instruction that goes into learning how to use Track Changes? I am a novice at tech things, and my questions probably make that quite obvious. Nonetheless, thanks for your kind help! -- David Russell david.sonofhashem@gmail.com
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Code Factory Eloquence Registration Problem Solved
Ed Marquette
As I mentioned in an earlier post, NVDA seemed to think I was still using the trial version of the Code Factory Eloquence (and Vocalizer) add-on.
It may have helped that Code Factory just released Version 1.6, but I downloaded that version (using the original link from the order confirmation email message. I then installed that version by hitting ENTER from File Explorer. NVDA took me through the registration process, and all is well. I’m a happy camper. <SMILE> I hope this procedure helps others who had the same problem.
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Re: Copying Text in Original Format With NVDA
Ed Marquette
I too have had the problem reported with the NVDA Key + F9 and NVDA Key + F10. When I paste the results, I get one letter. It doesn’t always happen, but it usually does.
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That just means I have to copy and paste the old-fashioned way, highlighting text using windows or application specific commands. The problem isn’t in the copying; it is in the selecting of the text. Of course, using old-fashioned Windows commands, one can highlight simply by holding the shift key and moving the system cursor by word, by line, by paragraph, to the end of the line, to the beginning of the line, or to the beginning or end of the respective documents (with control + home or control + end), and then using control + c or control + x (to cut). The bigger trick, then, is not to carry the formatting with you in the paste. Control + v will carry the source document’s formatting with it. A little-known trick is to paste into Word or Outlook using, not control + v, but instead, control + alt + v. That brings up a menu allowing one to retain the formatting, paste as html, or as plain text. I almost always opt for plain text because I want the pasted text to take on the characteristics of the target document, not the source document. While on the subject of selecting text, in Microsoft word (all the way back to Word 2003), tapping f8 once turns on selection. Tapping a second time selects the nearest word. Tapping a third time highlights the nearest sentence (or the paragraph if there is only one sentence in the paragraph), and finally, a 4th tap will select the paragraph. One may also use f8 like the NVDA Key + F9. The f8 turns on the selector. Just move to the end of the desired selection and press control + c to copy. So, there are lots of options. One place where the NVDA + F9 function seems to work is when in one of the review modes, and not using the system cursor. By the way, while on the topic of copying, in Microsoft Word and Microsoft Outlook, one may copy a paragraph’s formatting (and none of the text) with control + shift + C. Then paste that formatting with control + shift+ v.
On May 22, 2019, at 12:23 AM, Marcio via Groups.Io <marcinhorj21@...> wrote:
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Re: Copying Text in Original Format With NVDA
Luke,
Thanks. At least we have, for the time
being, the option of selecting all the text on a page and editing
it. It's definitely better than nothing at all.
Cheers, Marcio AKA Starboy Sent from a galaxy far, far away. --Are you a Thunderbird user? Then join the Thunderbird mailing list to help and be helped with all Thunderbird things - questions, features, add-ons and much more!
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Re: Copying Text in Original Format With NVDA
Luke Davis
On Wed, 22 May 2019, Marcio via Groups.Io wrote:
Just one more thing...Not directly. But, though I have never tried it, I believe you should be able to paste the result of the above into a word document, and then select and copy only the part that interests you, then paste that into another location. This is somewhat related to the copy a column from a table discussion a week or two ago. The browsers can do this. But NVDA can not allow us to use those features of the browser fully. The best we can get currently is the select all in focus mode method that you have just learned. What you are looking for, is the feature request posted here. https://github.com/nvaccess/nvda/issues/5354 Many people would find this a useful feature. But evidently it is rather difficult to implement. Luke
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Re: Selecting a block of text.
Ali Colak
Thanks Luke, but even with all the addons disabled it doesn't work.
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I've sent the log to Quentin and hope there is a solution.
On 5/21/19, Luke Davis <luke@newanswertech.com> wrote:
Hi Ali
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braille edge
Ashley Wayne
Hi all, Could anyone tell me of their experiences using NVDA with the Braille Edge from HIMS? I’m considering purchasing one but would just love some personal feedback. Does it work well specifically for editing documents? Thanks so much. Ashley
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Re: Copying Text in Original Format With NVDA
when i use this method, unfortunately nvda does not read for me the
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content in focus mode. if we find a solution that we can use cursor navigation and spoken feedback from nvda in focus mode, certainly we can use our desired part of page!
On 5/22/19, Marcio via Groups.Io <marcinhorj21=yahoo.com.br@groups.io> wrote:
Just one more thing... --
By God, were I given all the seven heavens with all they contain in order that I may disobey God by depriving an ant from the husk of a grain of barley, I would not do it. imam ali
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Re: Copying Text in Original Format With NVDA
your welcome! i am very glad and appreciate God that i could help someone!
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i remember that someone mentioned it in the list before. not sure, but if i am correct, gene mentioned it previously.
On 5/22/19, Marcio via Groups.Io <marcinhorj21=yahoo.com.br@groups.io> wrote:
Zahra, --
By God, were I given all the seven heavens with all they contain in order that I may disobey God by depriving an ant from the husk of a grain of barley, I would not do it. imam ali
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Re: Copying Text in Original Format With NVDA
Just one more thing...
I noticed that, pressing CTRL+A sure
enough it copies the whole page, yet it gives me exactly the
result I'm looking for.
Is there a way of copying just a part of a page with this method? Cheers, Marcio AKA Starboy Sent from a galaxy far, far away. --Are you a Thunderbird user? Then join the Thunderbird mailing list to help and be helped with all Thunderbird things - questions, features, add-ons and much more!
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Re: Copying Text in Original Format With NVDA
Zahra,
Thanks a lot, just what I was looking
for!
How you found it out? I never would know it if you hadn't told me! Cheers, Marcio AKA Starboy Sent from a galaxy far, far away. --Are you a Thunderbird user? Then join the Thunderbird mailing list to help and be helped with all Thunderbird things - questions, features, add-ons and much more!
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Re: Copying Text in Original Format With NVDA
hi.
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just press nvda space to turn on focus mode on your desired web page. then use controlA to select the web page, then press copy and then peist whenever you want. hope that help, God bless you!
On 5/22/19, Marcio via Groups.Io <marcinhorj21=yahoo.com.br@groups.io> wrote:
Luke, --
By God, were I given all the seven heavens with all they contain in order that I may disobey God by depriving an ant from the husk of a grain of barley, I would not do it. imam ali
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Re: Copying Text in Original Format With NVDA
Luke,
It's not quite what I was looking for :)
It gives me exactly what NVDA speaks, but what I'm looking for, actually, is a way to copy not as plain text. Did I manage to explain it better now? Cheers, Marcio AKA Starboy Sent from a galaxy far, far away. --Are you a Thunderbird user? Then join the Thunderbird mailing list to help and be helped with all Thunderbird things - questions, features, add-ons and much more!
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Re: NVDA versus JAWS
Hareth
Hi Quentin,
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I am a proud NVDA user, and it works as good and sometimes better than any other screenreaders, specially with some apps, websites ETC, And adding its an open source free software is the best plus overall. But with all respect, it doesn't have all jaws features. OCR in jaws is fully featured, it works on files without opening them and it reads complete file, even if its a multi page. plus it has the capability to read the paper documents on the scanner without having to save the scanned files on the computer. NVDA's built in OCR is at best is a simple one. and most of the time recognizes a single line, or nothing on my windows10 machine. BTW, I have jaws installed on my PC as well, And use the OCR a lot.
On 5/22/19, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:
Hi Áine,
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Re: Copying Text in Original Format With NVDA
Luke Davis
On Tue, 21 May 2019, Marcio via Groups.Io wrote:
Someone told me that it's possible to copy a text exactly as it's spoken (with headers, lists and such) using JAWS.Yes, if I understand what you're describing. Try the following: 1. Open a web page or whatever you want to copy text from. 2. Press NVDA+n, t, to open the tools menu. 3. Press s, to open the speech viewer. 4. Alt+tab back to your webpage, and read anything you want. 5. When you're done, press alt+tab to return to the speech viewer. 6. The speech viewer has a checkbox (ignore it), and a read-only edit field. You may have to tab or move down to get into the edit field. Get into it, and you can arrow through the text that was spoken since you opened the speech viewer. 7. If you want to just copy it all to notepad or whatever, press control+a, control+c, and alt+F4 to close the speech viewer. Then open notepad or whatever, and press control+v to paste the speech history into it. Hope this helps. Luke
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Re: Selecting a block of text.
Luke Davis
Hi Ali
You wrote: I tried restarting without addons and it didn't work. Could you tellThat is probably because you most likely have NVDA exit options turned off. So, a way to restart without addons without having to change any of your settings, is to do this: Press your windows key and the letter r. In the window that appears, type the following: nvda -r --disable-addons Then press enter. Make sure you get the dashes in the right places. That should restart nvda with all addons disabled temporarily (until you start it again). Hth. Luke
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Re: Selecting a block of text.
i tested with nvaccess and it worked for me.
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i dont remember exact book or exact web page that i can reproduce the issue forever and introduce it to you. but i remember, i observed this issue mainly in Islamic books which i download from: www.al-islam.org
On 5/22/19, Quentin Christensen <quentin@nvaccess.org> wrote:
With Zahra's example, --
By God, were I given all the seven heavens with all they contain in order that I may disobey God by depriving an ant from the husk of a grain of barley, I would not do it. imam ali
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