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OpenOffice or LibreOffice

mk360
 

Hi,


I know that it was asked before, but versions are updated regularly and well, now I'm searching for the option... apparently LO is the best, but I don't know...

So, any info will be apreciated... note that I can install LO and OO simultanously, so if you can say what is the best for what option...


Thanks,

mk.


cd burning program

Richard Kuzma
 

Sorry it took so long to respond.

I use a program called mp3 cd doctor.

It is accessible with nvda and allows you to take mp3 files and burn them to cd in an audio format.

It works great.

Also, t rip audio cd’s to mp3, I use something called cdex – which I believe stands for cd extraction.

It is free also and works great.

Somnetimes, I just use media player and set it to auto extract and eject the cd once I put it in.

Thanks

rich


Re: FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Hi,

On the contrary! I think PowerPoint is very accessible to both JAWS and NVDA users. I am trying to collect the basic keystrokes that people are using so that we can make a complete and up to date list available.

Your other questions relate to Open Office and MS Word. Both are excellent products. If you are using Open Office then I would recommend that you keep on using it.

What screen reader are you using?


All the best,

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of nasrin khaksar
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 6:51 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint

hi.
i have many questions.
do you mean that powerpoint is not completely accessible for blinds?
or at least its accessibility and kkey strokes with using jaws is better than nvda?
i use libreoffice and openoffice and when i press tab to go to different objects, when my reading finish and i press alt+f4 to close the program, it asks me do you want to save the changes?
i mean that pressing tab changes the presentations.
or do you think that word is the most accessible part of office programs for blind users?
i appreciate any help and guide.
thanks so much for providing these notes.
i copied and saved them in my system.
specially sukil and Cearbhall i waite for your guide about my questions.
thanks extremely and God bless you all.

On 7/10/16, Cearbhall O'Meadhra <cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie> wrote:
Sukil,



I am using office 2010 and it looks as though something has changed
from
2007 as the keys “a” and “s” do nothing in slide show here. I agree
that the up and down arrows navigate the slide line by line and the
left and right arrows move from character to character. Indeed,
control+left and
control+right arrows move from word to word within the slide in slide
control+show
mode.



Later on, we could list the variations that work in different versions
of Office. For the moment, I am committed to getting an accurate
working set of instructions that will handle PowerPoint with NVDA in
as many versions as possible.



Do the steps that I have listed in my first message work in your 2007
version?





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To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint



Oops, seems ctrl and ctrl shift F6 don't do anything. Perhaps I
confused this version of Office with Office 2003.

For me, a and s work in the slideshow. I'm using Office 2007. Passing
through left and right arrows works as well.


El 10/07/2016 a las 1:09, Cearbhall O'Meadhra escribió:

Sukil,



I appreciate your taking the trouble to respond. However, I have tried
control and F6, etc., as you suggest but they have no function in
slide view or slide show modes. Lidewise, “s” and “d” or “a” have no function.
Are these possibly JAWS commands? I see that JAWS uses a rake of
navigation keystrokes for PowerPoint. However, I am trying to assemble
a tutorial for using NVDA with PowerPoint.





All the best,



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Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint



Hi,
You can also press ctrl+F6 or ctrl+shift+F6 to move forth and back
between pannels. And S and D (or was it A and S) also work to go to
the previous and next slide in the slideshow.

Regards,
Sukil

El 09/07/2016 a las 20:36, Cearbhall O'Meadhra escribió:

Hi,



I have been working all day on this topic and have put together the
following notes about using PowerPoint with NVDA. Please let me know
what you think of these notes. Have you any improvements to suggest?



I have used PowerPoint 2010 on Windows 10 using NVDA 2016.2 on my
Desktop Pc.



Notes on the use of PowerPoint with NVDA



1. File opens in slide view

2. Page Down moves from slide to slide showing the title pane



For the first slide:

3. Press tab to move to the title placeholder. NVDA reads the title of
the slide;

4. Press tab again to move to the subtitle placeholder. NVDA reads the
subtitle;

5. Press tab again to move to the embedded graphic. NVDA says
"Graphic" if no alt text;

6. Press tab again to move to rectangle shape.

7. Press tab again to return to the title placeholder at the top of
the slide



Press page down For the second slide:

8. Press tab to move to the title placeholder

9. Press tab to go to the text placeholder. NVDA reads all the text in
the placeholder

10. Press numpad 9 and numbpad 7 to read the text in the placeholder
line by line

11. Press tab to move to the graphic image. NVDA reports the location
of the graphic in the computer when the alt text has not been filled
in.



Press page down for the third slide

12. Press tab for the Title placeholder

13. Press tab for the object placeholder. NVDA reads all the text as
in the text placeholder at 9 above





Press pagedown for slide 4;

Same as slide 3.



Press page down for slide 5

15. Press tab for footer placeholder. NVDA reads all text in the
footer;

16. Press tab for slide number placeholder. NVDA reads out the number
of the slide;

17. Press tab for title placeholder

18. Press tab for text placeholder.

19. Press tab to return to the footer placeholder.



control+home jumps to the first slide

control+end jumps to the last slide.



The Slide Show



Press F5 to start the slide show

NVDA reads the whole slide from top to bottom including the title and
leaves the cursor at the bottom of the slide.

1. Press page down and page up to move from slide to slide. Note that
it may be necessary to wait for a few seconds between key presses to
allow the slide show to catch up;

2. Press numpad 9 and numpad 7 to read the contents of the slide line
by line.

3. Press return or space bar to move to the next slide. Sometimes
nothing happens and then do the instruction at 4 below.

4. Type the number of a slide followed by return to jump to that slide.

5. Press control-shift-s to switch back and forth between the slide
and its accompanying notes.

6. Use F6 to move between the status bar pane, slide view pane,
thumbnails pane and notes pane. Use the arrow keys to move through the
options available in each of these panes. Use F6 to move to the chosen
view to see the results.

7. Use the escape key to exit the slide show.

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To: ' <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io'
Subject: RE: NVDA and PowerPoint



Hi again,



I am using PowerPoint 2010 with NVDA 2016.2 and Windows 10 on a desktop PC.



All advice welcome, thanks!



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Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 11:48 AM
To: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and PowerPoint



Hi,



I have taken on a new project in which I have to be able to read
several PowerPoint presentations. Are there any guides for using
PowerPoint with NVDA? Can anyone give me any pointers from their own experience?





All the best,



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Re: brousers that speak the progress bars when downloading

Gene
 

What are you referring to with this command?  Did you type it as you intended?  In browsers I am fimiliar with the command to open the download window is control j.  you appear to be saying that you need to use control f at some point.  That isn't my experience nor have I read this anywhere else.  Control f is a find command in most programs. 
 
If opening and being in the download window allows the progress bar to be read, fine.  But there is, in my opinion, a much better and more efficient way to keep track of when a download completes if that is the goal.  in particular, if it still works, the Firefox add on that allows you to hear a sound when a download completes. 
 
Gene

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Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 5:43 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] brousers that speak the progress bars when downloading

Also to enable the download window you need to press controland f when in
the web site.
 Note that if you do not want also to hear the name of the file repeated on
some systems, you can move to another entry and you can still hear the
bleeps.
 Brian

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----- Original Message -----
From: "Dejan Ristic" <r.dejan83@...>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] brousers that speak the progress bars when downloading


> Hi friend,
>
>
> I use Mozilla Firefox in order to hear progress changes while downloading.
>
>
> My NVDA is set to Beep for progress bar updates. When I want to hear the
> progress updates while downloading, I must go to the Downloads window in
> Mozilla while my download process is at work. When I do that, I can hear
> the progress by means of the beep signal.
>
>
> The progress announcement choice can be satisfied by using the NVDA key
> and the letter U to decide which of the announcements to choose.
>
>
> I hope this helps.
>
>
> On 7/9/2016 7:04 PM, n8mnx@... wrote:
>>
>>     I am looking for a brouser that nvda will speak the progress bar
>> when I down load I use to use webie but today it no longer works even
>> after I uninstalled and reinstalled it. I really want to hear the
>> progress bar when I download to know if my downloads anre working or not.
>>
>> Brian Sackrider
>>
>>
>> On 7/9/2016 1:00 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
>>>
>>> Hello,
>>>
>>> I just joined this group.
>>>
>>> I am primarily a Window-Eyes user.
>>>
>>> I’d like to learn to use NVDA more efficiently.
>>>
>>> Is there a way to have NVDA speak the number of unread messages in a
>>> given folder?  Maybe an addon?
>>>
>>> I’ve not found anything yet.
>>>
>>> Thanks,
>>>
>>> Richard
>>>
>>
>>
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Re: Booting Bug

Brian's Mail list account BY <bglists@...>
 

Are you saying it has previously not prompted for any password, and now it does and its not set up for that since the problems with n the more recent windows 10 changing secure screen access codes etc? Or are you saying it just does not auto start.
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From: "Steve Hoad" <mainefun40@gmail.com>
To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2016 11:11 AM
Subject: [nvda] Booting Bug


I am using NVDA with a Toshiba machine that started life with Windows
7. All worked well, even through the upgrade to Windows 10 until
about 2 months ago.

Then, when cold booting the machine, here's what began to happen.
After pushing the power button, a few seconds elapse and I get the
"Windows sign in" message. The Windows boot sound plays but NVDA does
not speak. I must go to my desktop (Windows M) press N and hit enter
so NVDA will begin.

All check boxes are checked propperly. I would be interested in any
fixes for this, it is currently just an inconvenience but who knows
what it will lead to. Thanks,

--
Steve Hoad


Re: brousers that speak the progress bars when downloading

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Also to enable the download window you need to press controland f when in the web site.
Note that if you do not want also to hear the name of the file repeated on some systems, you can move to another entry and you can still hear the bleeps.
Brian

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To: <nvda@nvda.groups.io>
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 9:16 AM
Subject: Re: [nvda] brousers that speak the progress bars when downloading


Hi friend,


I use Mozilla Firefox in order to hear progress changes while downloading.


My NVDA is set to Beep for progress bar updates. When I want to hear the
progress updates while downloading, I must go to the Downloads window in
Mozilla while my download process is at work. When I do that, I can hear
the progress by means of the beep signal.


The progress announcement choice can be satisfied by using the NVDA key
and the letter U to decide which of the announcements to choose.


I hope this helps.


On 7/9/2016 7:04 PM, n8mnx@att.net wrote:

I am looking for a brouser that nvda will speak the progress bar
when I down load I use to use webie but today it no longer works even
after I uninstalled and reinstalled it. I really want to hear the
progress bar when I download to know if my downloads anre working or not.

Brian Sackrider


On 7/9/2016 1:00 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

Hello,

I just joined this group.

I am primarily a Window-Eyes user.

I’d like to learn to use NVDA more efficiently.

Is there a way to have NVDA speak the number of unread messages in a
given folder? Maybe an addon?

I’ve not found anything yet.

Thanks,

Richard


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Re: brousers that speak the progress bars when downloading

Dejan Ristic
 

Hi friend,


I use Mozilla Firefox in order to hear progress changes while downloading.


My NVDA is set to Beep for progress bar updates. When I want to hear the progress updates while downloading, I must go to the Downloads window in Mozilla while my download process is at work. When I do that, I can hear the progress by means of the beep signal.


The progress announcement choice can be satisfied by using the NVDA key and the letter U to decide which of the announcements to choose.


I hope this helps.


On 7/9/2016 7:04 PM, n8mnx@... wrote:

    I am looking for a brouser that nvda will speak the progress bar when I down load I use to use webie but today it no longer works even after I uninstalled and reinstalled it. I really want to hear the progress bar when I download to know if my downloads anre working or not.

Brian Sackrider


On 7/9/2016 1:00 PM, Richard Turner wrote:

Hello,

I just joined this group.

I am primarily a Window-Eyes user.

I’d like to learn to use NVDA more efficiently.

Is there a way to have NVDA speak the number of unread messages in a given folder?  Maybe an addon?

 

I’ve not found anything yet.

 

Thanks,

Richard

 





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NVDACon Asia: Report of Day 1

Bhavya shah
 

Dear all,
Saturday, 9th of July, 2016 witnessed the first day of the first ever
happening of NVDACon Asia on its Teamtalk server as well as through
RadioUdaan’s live stream. Listeners and attendees got a chance to tune
in to the
1 User General Chat Opener Forum – We discussed about a variety of
general subjects related to NVDA, its portability, flexibility,
add-ons and even shared our stories of success and how NVDA has
impacted our lives. Despite certain technicalities that had to be
dealt with during the end of the session, this session served as an
excellent kickstarter for the remainder of the conference.
2 Switching from JAWS to NVDA – We had extremely informative and
enlightening talks from Ashish Singla followed by Ashik Hirani, who
covered and very persuasively convinced many about why NVDA is a
competent and viable alternative to commercial options, talking about
functionality extensions in the form of add-on packages, NVDA’s
accessibility support for many popular applications, the insignificant
learning curve between a JAWS to NVDA transition, elucidating all
myths and misconceptions people might have in mind along the way. Due
to major interest and receipt of questions on this topic, this session
had to be significantly extended.
3 Connecting and Contributing to Wider NVDA Communities – In this
session, Bhavya Shah and Waqas Ramzan spoke about a variety of simple
to complex, little to big, ways and means NVDA users and enthusiasts
could contribute towards the progression and proliferation of NVDA,
such as joining various NVDA communities, user forums, add-on portals,
as well as translating NVDA. The importance of this community-driven
screen reader was emphasized and listeners and participants were
encouraged to play their part to help.
On the whole, Day 1 of NVDACon Asia was hugely successful, with a
satisfactory turnout at the Teamtalk server, and over a thousand
listeners hearing its live stream. We had fruitful discussions on the
first day, which will continue throughout the second day of NVDACon
Asia too – 10th of July, 2016.
What can you expect from Day 2 of NVDACon Asia is briefly highlighted
as follows:
Session 4 the BlindHelp Project by the BlindHelp Team – 12:30 p.m.
UTC/GMT, 5:30 p.m. Pakistan time, 6:00 p.m. India time, 9:30 p.m.
Malaysia time
Session 5 Asian Language Reading Tools & Text to Speech Support by
Mahesh Khosla – 1:30 p.m. UTC/GMT, 6:30 p.m. Pakistan time, 7:00 p.m.
India time, 10:30 p.m. Malaysia time
Session 6 Keynote Address by the NVDA India Team – 2:30 p.m. UTC/GMT,
7:30 p.m. Pakistan time, 8:00 p.m. India time, 11:30 p.m. Malaysia
time
Conference Schedule: www.blindhelp.tk/nvdaconasia/schedule
Please do listen to NVDACon Asia live via RadioUdaan
(www.radioudaan.com) or by participating directly in our Teamtalk
server (instructions at www.blindhelp.tk/nvdaconasia/participate).
Looking forward to an even bigger turnout and listenership today, and
an equally useful and knowledgeable day of conferencing and
presentations by our dignified speakers today as well!
Best Regards,
NVDACon Asia Planning Committee
www.blindhelp.tk/nvdaconasia

--
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Re: free CD-burning program that will work well with NVDA

 

well if its mp3 copy the files in as usual.
in win 7 its alt f t you need to find write these files to disk.
You can also delete temperary files from that menu to.
cdburner xp is donationware and contains no spyware and is what I used for audio it can handle audio, data, dvds, and video disks.

On 10/07/2016 8:33 a.m., Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:
Hi, everyone,



I've been trying to burn a CD for a friend with windows 10 but I'm finding
it very complicated. What is a good free CD-burning program that will work
well with NVDA?



Thanks for your help in advance.



Rosemarie


Re: regarding MS access

 

hi i dont use access and i dont have many informations about it.
but i heard that its not completely accessible with screen readers.

On 7/9/16, Ravi Paswan <ravipaswan32@gmail.com> wrote:
hello team member I have suffering a strange problem
to using NVDA.
because I am doing the MS access 20007 with NVDA but it is not
supported there some feeture suppose when I am select the data type
of any colum to press alt+ down arrow to choose the data type.
but there is NVDA is not supported and also hang my PC then I have
receive a error message [the MS access is not responding].


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burden and the shackles which were upon them; so [as for] those who
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has been sent down with him, these it is that are the successful.
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Re: brousers that speak the progress bars when downloading

 

hi.
yes. i use firefox and i press control+j to bring the library.
in this case, the focus is on the current download.
if you want to pause the download, you can press application ke and
use up and down in the arrow keys.
if you want to stop the download, you should first pause it and then
cancel the download.
you can resume the broken download with application and then the arrow keys.
its retry botton which is added to the firefox 33 and later.
hope thats help.
thanks and God bless you.

On 7/10/16, Gene New Zealand <hurrikennyandopo@outlook.co.nz> wrote:
Hi


If the download manager is used I think it is in internet explorer, mozilla
fire fox google play and maybe more when you start downloading the files you
can use the CTRL key + the letter J to bring up your downloads. You might
have to tab around or in some cases where the files are up up and down to
see what each file is up to. So i do not hear them all at times I will just
turn off the progress bars thingy in NVDA with the nvda key + the letter U.

The download manager can usually be found under the tools section in the
browsers.




hope this helps.


Gene nz


On 10/07/2016 5:04 AM, n8mnx@att.net<mailto:n8mnx@att.net> wrote:

I am looking for a brouser that nvda will speak the progress bar when I
down load I use to use webie but today it no longer works even after I
uninstalled and reinstalled it. I really want to hear the progress bar when
I download to know if my downloads anre working or not.

Brian Sackrider

On 7/9/2016 1:00 PM, Richard Turner wrote:
Hello,
I just joined this group.
I am primarily a Window-Eyes user.
I’d like to learn to use NVDA more efficiently.
Is there a way to have NVDA speak the number of unread messages in a given
folder? Maybe an addon?

I’ve not found anything yet.

Thanks,
Richard




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and makes unlawful to them impure things, and removes from them their
burden and the shackles which were upon them; so [as for] those who
believe in him and honor him and help him, and follow the light which
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Re: Indicating Python indentation in Braille

Christo de Klerk
 

When UEB is used, the print space indicator can be used which is dots 3-4-6.

Kind regards

Christo

On 2016/07/09 8:30 PM, John J. Boyer wrote:
It would be much more intuitive if each level of indentation was shown
as a non-blank cell. Such cells are quicker and easier to count.

John

On Sat, Jul 09, 2016 at 11:03:09AM -0700, Joseph Lee wrote:
Hi,
Each indentation is shown as blank cell.
Cheers,
Joseph

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Subject: [nvda] Indicating Python indentation in Braille

Is there a way to display a single-cell dot pattern for each level of
indentation in Python? It must be Braille, not speech, since I am
deaf-blind.

Thanks,
John

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Re: FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint

 

hi.
i have many questions.
do you mean that powerpoint is not completely accessible for blinds?
or at least its accessibility and kkey strokes with using jaws is
better than nvda?
i use libreoffice and openoffice and when i press tab to go to
different objects, when my reading finish and i press alt+f4 to close
the program, it asks me do you want to save the changes?
i mean that pressing tab changes the presentations.
or do you think that word is the most accessible part of office
programs for blind users?
i appreciate any help and guide.
thanks so much for providing these notes.
i copied and saved them in my system.
specially sukil and Cearbhall i waite for your guide about my questions.
thanks extremely and God bless you all.

On 7/10/16, Cearbhall O'Meadhra <cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie> wrote:
Sukil,



I am using office 2010 and it looks as though something has changed from
2007 as the keys “a” and “s” do nothing in slide show here. I agree that
the
up and down arrows navigate the slide line by line and the left and right
arrows move from character to character. Indeed, control+left and
control+right arrows move from word to word within the slide in slide show
mode.



Later on, we could list the variations that work in different versions of
Office. For the moment, I am committed to getting an accurate working set
of
instructions that will handle PowerPoint with NVDA in as many versions as
possible.



Do the steps that I have listed in my first message work in your 2007
version?





All the best,



Cearbhall



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Etxenike via Groups.io
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 12:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint



Oops, seems ctrl and ctrl shift F6 don't do anything. Perhaps I confused
this version of Office with Office 2003.

For me, a and s work in the slideshow. I'm using Office 2007. Passing
through left and right arrows works as well.


El 10/07/2016 a las 1:09, Cearbhall O'Meadhra escribió:

Sukil,



I appreciate your taking the trouble to respond. However, I have tried
control and F6, etc., as you suggest but they have no function in slide
view or slide show modes. Lidewise, “s” and “d” or “a” have no function.
Are these possibly JAWS commands? I see that JAWS uses a rake of navigation
keystrokes for PowerPoint. However, I am trying to assemble a tutorial for
using NVDA with PowerPoint.





All the best,



Cearbhall



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<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sukil
Etxenike via Groups.io
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 9:52 PM
To: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint



Hi,
You can also press ctrl+F6 or ctrl+shift+F6 to move forth and back between
pannels. And S and D (or was it A and S) also work to go to the previous
and
next slide in the slideshow.

Regards,
Sukil

El 09/07/2016 a las 20:36, Cearbhall O'Meadhra escribió:

Hi,



I have been working all day on this topic and have put together the
following notes about using PowerPoint with NVDA. Please let me know what
you think of these notes. Have you any improvements to suggest?



I have used PowerPoint 2010 on Windows 10 using NVDA 2016.2 on my Desktop
Pc.



Notes on the use of PowerPoint with NVDA



1. File opens in slide view

2. Page Down moves from slide to slide showing the title pane



For the first slide:

3. Press tab to move to the title placeholder. NVDA reads the title of the
slide;

4. Press tab again to move to the subtitle placeholder. NVDA reads the
subtitle;

5. Press tab again to move to the embedded graphic. NVDA says "Graphic" if
no alt text;

6. Press tab again to move to rectangle shape.

7. Press tab again to return to the title placeholder at the top of the
slide



Press page down For the second slide:

8. Press tab to move to the title placeholder

9. Press tab to go to the text placeholder. NVDA reads all the text in the
placeholder

10. Press numpad 9 and numbpad 7 to read the text in the placeholder line
by
line

11. Press tab to move to the graphic image. NVDA reports the location of
the
graphic in the computer when the alt text has not been filled in.



Press page down for the third slide

12. Press tab for the Title placeholder

13. Press tab for the object placeholder. NVDA reads all the text as in the
text placeholder at 9 above





Press pagedown for slide 4;

Same as slide 3.



Press page down for slide 5

15. Press tab for footer placeholder. NVDA reads all text in the footer;

16. Press tab for slide number placeholder. NVDA reads out the number of
the
slide;

17. Press tab for title placeholder

18. Press tab for text placeholder.

19. Press tab to return to the footer placeholder.



control+home jumps to the first slide

control+end jumps to the last slide.



The Slide Show



Press F5 to start the slide show

NVDA reads the whole slide from top to bottom including the title and
leaves
the cursor at the bottom of the slide.

1. Press page down and page up to move from slide to slide. Note that it
may
be necessary to wait for a few seconds between key presses to allow the
slide show to catch up;

2. Press numpad 9 and numpad 7 to read the contents of the slide line by
line.

3. Press return or space bar to move to the next slide. Sometimes nothing
happens and then do the instruction at 4 below.

4. Type the number of a slide followed by return to jump to that slide.

5. Press control-shift-s to switch back and forth between the slide and its
accompanying notes.

6. Use F6 to move between the status bar pane, slide view pane, thumbnails
pane and notes pane. Use the arrow keys to move through the options
available in each of these panes. Use F6 to move to the chosen view to see
the results.

7. Use the escape key to exit the slide show.

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From: Cearbhall O'Meadhra [ <mailto:cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie>
mailto:cearbhall.omeadhra@blbc.ie]
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 12:08 PM
To: ' <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io'
Subject: RE: NVDA and PowerPoint



Hi again,



I am using PowerPoint 2010 with NVDA 2016.2 and Windows 10 on a desktop PC.



All advice welcome, thanks!



All the best,



Cearbhall



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<mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 11:48 AM
To: <mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io> nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and PowerPoint



Hi,



I have taken on a new project in which I have to be able to read several
PowerPoint presentations. Are there any guides for using PowerPoint with
NVDA? Can anyone give me any pointers from their own experience?





All the best,



Cearbhall



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burden and the shackles which were upon them; so [as for] those who
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Re: free CD-burning program that will work well with NVDA

 

hi.
i offer burnaware free.
you can find it in its producer website.
download its free version and it has not opencandy in its recent
version and works well with nvda.
www.burnaware.com

On 7/10/16, Sukil Etxenike via Groups.io <sukiletxe=yahoo.es@groups.io> wrote:
Hi,

Use the menu bar to do the tasks, and flat review and object navigation
to view some information onscreen.

Regards,
Sukil


El 10/07/2016 a las 1:02, Roger Stewart escribió:
I tried Imburn and it doesn't seem to be very accessible. I tab around
and nothing speaks for me at all but sighted friend says that there
are icons on there that you click on with the mouse to do various
tasks with it. Seems very simple to use for a sighted mouse user, but
for nvda users, doesn't seem to be very promising unless maybe an add
on could be made to make it usable.

Roger







On 7/9/2016 4:31 PM, Chris wrote:
Another one is imgburn
http://www.imgburn.com/

Also available as a ninite installer

-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Damien
Pendleton
Sent: 09 July 2016 21:56
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] free CD-burning program that will work well with
NVDA

Hi,
Another really good one that I use regularly is CDBurner XP. The
title was
misleading at first, it led me to believe that it was only built for
Windows
XP - this is not the case. I have used it with Windows 7 with
absolutely no
problems whatsoever, and it is still being maintained.
This one is at http://cdburnerxp.se/en
Hope this helps.
Kind regards,
Damien.
-----Original Message-----
From: Rosemarie Chavarria
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2016 9:45 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] free CD-burning program that will work well with
NVDA

Thank you. I'll check it out.



-----Original Message-----
From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of
Bobby
Sent: Saturday, July 09, 2016 1:48 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] free CD-burning program that will work well with
NVDA

Well I have quite a fiew. One of the programs I use a lot is any
burn. and
I also used express burn butt you have to pay for that one. If I
were you I
would stick with any burn because it is free. You can get this soft
ware at
www.anyburn.com <http://www.anyburn.com> . Hope this helps





On 7/9/2016 4:33 PM, Rosemarie Chavarria wrote:


Hi, everyone,



I've been trying to burn a CD for a friend with windows 10 but I'm
finding
it very complicated. What is a good free CD-burning program that will
work
well with NVDA?



Thanks for your help in advance.



Rosemarie

















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Those who follow the Messenger-Prophet, the Ummi, whom they find
written down with them in the Taurat and the Injeel [who] enjoins them
good and forbids them evil, and makes lawful to them the good things
and makes unlawful to them impure things, and removes from them their
burden and the shackles which were upon them; so [as for] those who
believe in him and honor him and help him, and follow the light which
has been sent down with him, these it is that are the successful.
holy quran, chapter 7, verse 157.
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CD-burning problem solved

Rosemarie Chavarria
 

Hi, everyone,

 

I want to thank you all for helping me with my CD-burning problem. I downloaded anyburn and it's pretty easy to use.

 

Thanks again for all your help.

 

Rosemarie


Re: FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Sukil,

 

I am using office 2010 and it looks as though something has changed from 2007 as the keys “a” and “s” do nothing in slide show here. I agree that the up and down arrows navigate the slide line by line and the left and right arrows move from character to character. Indeed, control+left and control+right arrows move from word to word within the slide in slide show mode.

 

Later on, we could list the variations that work in different versions of Office. For the moment, I am committed to getting an accurate working set of instructions that will handle PowerPoint with NVDA in as many versions as possible.

 

Do the steps that I have listed in my first message work in your 2007 version?

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sukil Etxenike via Groups.io
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 12:49 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Oops, seems ctrl and ctrl shift F6 don't do anything. Perhaps I confused this version of Office with Office 2003.

For me, a and s work in the slideshow. I'm using Office 2007. Passing through left and right arrows works as well.


El 10/07/2016 a las 1:09, Cearbhall O'Meadhra escribió:

Sukil,

 

I appreciate your taking the trouble to respond. However, I have tried control and F6, etc.,  as you suggest but they have no function in slide view or slide show modes. Lidewise, “s” and  “d” or “a” have no function. Are these possibly JAWS commands? I see that JAWS uses a rake of navigation keystrokes for PowerPoint. However, I am trying to assemble a tutorial for using NVDA with PowerPoint.

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sukil Etxenike via Groups.io
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 9:52 PM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi,
You can also press ctrl+F6 or ctrl+shift+F6 to move forth and back between pannels. And S and D (or was it A and S) also work to go to the previous and next slide in the slideshow.

Regards,
Sukil

El 09/07/2016 a las 20:36, Cearbhall O'Meadhra escribió:

Hi,

 

I have been working all day on this topic and have put together the following notes about using PowerPoint with NVDA. Please let me know what you think of these notes. Have you any improvements to suggest?

 

I have used PowerPoint 2010 on Windows 10 using NVDA 2016.2 on my Desktop Pc.

 

Notes on the use of PowerPoint with NVDA

 

1. File opens in slide view

2. Page Down moves from slide to slide showing the title pane

 

For the first slide:

3. Press tab to move to the title placeholder. NVDA reads the title of the slide;

4. Press tab again to move to the subtitle placeholder. NVDA reads the subtitle;

5. Press tab again to move to the embedded graphic. NVDA  says "Graphic" if no alt text;

6. Press tab again to move to rectangle shape.

7. Press tab again to return to the title placeholder at the top of the slide

 

Press page down For the second slide:

8. Press tab to move to the title placeholder

9. Press tab to go to the text placeholder. NVDA reads all the text in the placeholder

10. Press numpad 9 and numbpad 7 to read the text in the placeholder line by line

11. Press tab to move to the graphic image. NVDA reports the location of the graphic in the computer when the alt text has not been filled in.

 

Press page down for the third slide

12. Press tab for the Title placeholder

13. Press tab for the object placeholder. NVDA reads all the text as in the text placeholder at 9 above

 

 

Press pagedown for slide 4;

Same as slide 3.

 

Press page down for slide 5

15. Press tab for footer placeholder. NVDA reads all text in the footer;

16. Press tab for slide number placeholder. NVDA reads out the number of the slide;

17. Press tab for title placeholder

18. Press tab for text placeholder.

19. Press tab to return to the footer placeholder.

 

control+home jumps to the first slide

control+end jumps to the last slide.

 

The Slide Show

 

Press F5 to start the slide show

NVDA reads the whole slide from top to bottom including the title and leaves the cursor at the bottom of the slide.

1. Press page down and page up to move from slide to slide. Note that it may be necessary to wait for a few seconds between key presses to allow the slide show to catch up;

2. Press numpad 9 and numpad 7 to read the contents of the slide line by line.

3. Press return or space bar to move to the next slide. Sometimes nothing happens and then do the instruction at 4 below.

4. Type the  number  of a slide followed by return to jump to that slide.

5. Press control-shift-s to switch back and forth between the slide and its accompanying notes.

6. Use F6 to move between the status bar pane, slide view pane, thumbnails pane and notes pane. Use the arrow keys to move through the options available in each of these panes. Use F6 to move to the chosen view to see the results.

7. Use the escape key to exit the slide show.

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From: Cearbhall O'Meadhra [mailto:cearbhall.omeadhra@...]
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 12:08 PM
To: '
nvda@nvda.groups.io'
Subject: RE: NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi again,

 

I am using PowerPoint 2010 with NVDA 2016.2 and Windows 10 on a desktop PC.

 

All advice welcome, thanks!

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 11:48 AM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi,

 

I have taken on a new project in which I have to be able to read several PowerPoint presentations. Are there any guides for using PowerPoint with NVDA? Can anyone give me any pointers from their own experience?

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

 

 

 


Re: FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint

Sukil Etxenike <sukiletxe@...>
 

Oops, seems ctrl and ctrl shift F6 don't do anything. Perhaps I confused this version of Office with Office 2003.

For me, a and s work in the slideshow. I'm using Office 2007. Passing through left and right arrows works as well.

El 10/07/2016 a las 1:09, Cearbhall O'Meadhra escribió:

Sukil,

 

I appreciate your taking the trouble to respond. However, I have tried control and F6, etc.,  as you suggest but they have no function in slide view or slide show modes. Lidewise, “s” and  “d” or “a” have no function. Are these possibly JAWS commands? I see that JAWS uses a rake of navigation keystrokes for PowerPoint. However, I am trying to assemble a tutorial for using NVDA with PowerPoint.

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sukil Etxenike via Groups.io
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 9:52 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi,
You can also press ctrl+F6 or ctrl+shift+F6 to move forth and back between pannels. And S and D (or was it A and S) also work to go to the previous and next slide in the slideshow.

Regards,
Sukil

El 09/07/2016 a las 20:36, Cearbhall O'Meadhra escribió:

Hi,

 

I have been working all day on this topic and have put together the following notes about using PowerPoint with NVDA. Please let me know what you think of these notes. Have you any improvements to suggest?

 

I have used PowerPoint 2010 on Windows 10 using NVDA 2016.2 on my Desktop Pc.

 

Notes on the use of PowerPoint with NVDA

 

1. File opens in slide view

2. Page Down moves from slide to slide showing the title pane

 

For the first slide:

3. Press tab to move to the title placeholder. NVDA reads the title of the slide;

4. Press tab again to move to the subtitle placeholder. NVDA reads the subtitle;

5. Press tab again to move to the embedded graphic. NVDA  says "Graphic" if no alt text;

6. Press tab again to move to rectangle shape.

7. Press tab again to return to the title placeholder at the top of the slide

 

Press page down For the second slide:

8. Press tab to move to the title placeholder

9. Press tab to go to the text placeholder. NVDA reads all the text in the placeholder

10. Press numpad 9 and numbpad 7 to read the text in the placeholder line by line

11. Press tab to move to the graphic image. NVDA reports the location of the graphic in the computer when the alt text has not been filled in.

 

Press page down for the third slide

12. Press tab for the Title placeholder

13. Press tab for the object placeholder. NVDA reads all the text as in the text placeholder at 9 above

 

 

Press pagedown for slide 4;

Same as slide 3.

 

Press page down for slide 5

15. Press tab for footer placeholder. NVDA reads all text in the footer;

16. Press tab for slide number placeholder. NVDA reads out the number of the slide;

17. Press tab for title placeholder

18. Press tab for text placeholder.

19. Press tab to return to the footer placeholder.

 

control+home jumps to the first slide

control+end jumps to the last slide.

 

The Slide Show

 

Press F5 to start the slide show

NVDA reads the whole slide from top to bottom including the title and leaves the cursor at the bottom of the slide.

1. Press page down and page up to move from slide to slide. Note that it may be necessary to wait for a few seconds between key presses to allow the slide show to catch up;

2. Press numpad 9 and numpad 7 to read the contents of the slide line by line.

3. Press return or space bar to move to the next slide. Sometimes nothing happens and then do the instruction at 4 below.

4. Type the  number  of a slide followed by return to jump to that slide.

5. Press control-shift-s to switch back and forth between the slide and its accompanying notes.

6. Use F6 to move between the status bar pane, slide view pane, thumbnails pane and notes pane. Use the arrow keys to move through the options available in each of these panes. Use F6 to move to the chosen view to see the results.

7. Use the escape key to exit the slide show.

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From: Cearbhall O'Meadhra [mailto:cearbhall.omeadhra@...]
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 12:08 PM
To: '
nvda@nvda.groups.io'
Subject: RE: NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi again,

 

I am using PowerPoint 2010 with NVDA 2016.2 and Windows 10 on a desktop PC.

 

All advice welcome, thanks!

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 11:48 AM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi,

 

I have taken on a new project in which I have to be able to read several PowerPoint presentations. Are there any guides for using PowerPoint with NVDA? Can anyone give me any pointers from their own experience?

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

m +353 (0)833323487 Ph: _353 (0)1-2864623 e: cearbhall.omeadhra@...

 

 

 

 



Re: FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint

Sukil Etxenike <sukiletxe@...>
 

The problem is that there is no definite answer for that question, as I cannot tell you why they fail. It happens in some tables, and I don't know if in other objects.


El 10/07/2016 a las 1:16, Cearbhall O'Meadhra escribió:

Sukil

 

Can you list the objects that NVDA does not read? I would be happy to include them in my investigation.

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sukil Etxenike via Groups.io
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 9:59 PM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi,

Me too. And some tables and I believe other objects as well are not even read by NVDA. I should research that behaviour.

Regards,

Sukil

 

 

El 09/07/2016 a las 22:56, Mike Sedmak escribió:

Has anyone had luck navigating tables in powerpoint?  Table navigation does not work for me in powerpoint.

I have to resort to using tab to step through every cell.

Thanks,

Mike

 

Sent from my iPhone, please forgive the typos. 


On Jul 9, 2016, at 2:52 PM, Sukil Etxenike via Groups.io <sukiletxe@...> wrote:

Hi,
You can also press ctrl+F6 or ctrl+shift+F6 to move forth and back between pannels. And S and D (or was it A and S) also work to go to the previous and next slide in the slideshow.

Regards,
Sukil

El 09/07/2016 a las 20:36, Cearbhall O'Meadhra escribió:

Hi,

 

I have been working all day on this topic and have put together the following notes about using PowerPoint with NVDA. Please let me know what you think of these notes. Have you any improvements to suggest?

 

I have used PowerPoint 2010 on Windows 10 using NVDA 2016.2 on my Desktop Pc.

 

Notes on the use of PowerPoint with NVDA

 

1. File opens in slide view

2. Page Down moves from slide to slide showing the title pane

 

For the first slide:

3. Press tab to move to the title placeholder. NVDA reads the title of the slide;

4. Press tab again to move to the subtitle placeholder. NVDA reads the subtitle;

5. Press tab again to move to the embedded graphic. NVDA  says "Graphic" if no alt text;

6. Press tab again to move to rectangle shape.

7. Press tab again to return to the title placeholder at the top of the slide

 

Press page down For the second slide:

8. Press tab to move to the title placeholder

9. Press tab to go to the text placeholder. NVDA reads all the text in the placeholder

10. Press numpad 9 and numbpad 7 to read the text in the placeholder line by line

11. Press tab to move to the graphic image. NVDA reports the location of the graphic in the computer when the alt text has not been filled in.

 

Press page down for the third slide

12. Press tab for the Title placeholder

13. Press tab for the object placeholder. NVDA reads all the text as in the text placeholder at 9 above

 

 

Press pagedown for slide 4;

Same as slide 3.

 

Press page down for slide 5

15. Press tab for footer placeholder. NVDA reads all text in the footer;

16. Press tab for slide number placeholder. NVDA reads out the number of the slide;

17. Press tab for title placeholder

18. Press tab for text placeholder.

19. Press tab to return to the footer placeholder.

 

control+home jumps to the first slide

control+end jumps to the last slide.

 

The Slide Show

 

Press F5 to start the slide show

NVDA reads the whole slide from top to bottom including the title and leaves the cursor at the bottom of the slide.

1. Press page down and page up to move from slide to slide. Note that it may be necessary to wait for a few seconds between key presses to allow the slide show to catch up;

2. Press numpad 9 and numpad 7 to read the contents of the slide line by line.

3. Press return or space bar to move to the next slide. Sometimes nothing happens and then do the instruction at 4 below.

4. Type the  number  of a slide followed by return to jump to that slide.

5. Press control-shift-s to switch back and forth between the slide and its accompanying notes.

6. Use F6 to move between the status bar pane, slide view pane, thumbnails pane and notes pane. Use the arrow keys to move through the options available in each of these panes. Use F6 to move to the chosen view to see the results.

7. Use the escape key to exit the slide show.

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From: Cearbhall O'Meadhra [mailto:cearbhall.omeadhra@...]
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 12:08 PM
To: '
nvda@nvda.groups.io'
Subject: RE: NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi again,

 

I am using PowerPoint 2010 with NVDA 2016.2 and Windows 10 on a desktop PC.

 

All advice welcome, thanks!

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 11:48 AM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi,

 

I have taken on a new project in which I have to be able to read several PowerPoint presentations. Are there any guides for using PowerPoint with NVDA? Can anyone give me any pointers from their own experience?

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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Re: Correction: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Mike,

 

My mistake! Please ignore my last email.

 

You are correct that I have mistakenly included F6 in the Slide Show set of steps. Well spotted! I have moved that instruction now to the set of steps relating to the  Slide View.

 

Could you help me with a PPT file containing at least one table?

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Sedmak
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 12:20 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint

 

F6 will move between the current slide, the status bar, and the thumbnail preview panes when in slide view.  F6 will not do this in presentation mode.

Thanks,

Mike

 

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On Jul 9, 2016, at 5:09 PM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra <cearbhall.omeadhra@...> wrote:

Sukil,

 

I appreciate your taking the trouble to respond. However, I have tried control and F6, etc.,  as you suggest but they have no function in slide view or slide show modes. Lidewise, “s” and  “d” or “a” have no function. Are these possibly JAWS commands? I see that JAWS uses a rake of navigation keystrokes for PowerPoint. However, I am trying to assemble a tutorial for using NVDA with PowerPoint.

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sukil Etxenike via Groups.io
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 9:52 PM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi,
You can also press ctrl+F6 or ctrl+shift+F6 to move forth and back between pannels. And S and D (or was it A and S) also work to go to the previous and next slide in the slideshow.

Regards,
Sukil

El 09/07/2016 a las 20:36, Cearbhall O'Meadhra escribió:

Hi,

 

I have been working all day on this topic and have put together the following notes about using PowerPoint with NVDA. Please let me know what you think of these notes. Have you any improvements to suggest?

 

I have used PowerPoint 2010 on Windows 10 using NVDA 2016.2 on my Desktop Pc.

 

Notes on the use of PowerPoint with NVDA

 

1. File opens in slide view

2. Page Down moves from slide to slide showing the title pane

 

For the first slide:

3. Press tab to move to the title placeholder. NVDA reads the title of the slide;

4. Press tab again to move to the subtitle placeholder. NVDA reads the subtitle;

5. Press tab again to move to the embedded graphic. NVDA  says "Graphic" if no alt text;

6. Press tab again to move to rectangle shape.

7. Press tab again to return to the title placeholder at the top of the slide

 

Press page down For the second slide:

8. Press tab to move to the title placeholder

9. Press tab to go to the text placeholder. NVDA reads all the text in the placeholder

10. Press numpad 9 and numbpad 7 to read the text in the placeholder line by line

11. Press tab to move to the graphic image. NVDA reports the location of the graphic in the computer when the alt text has not been filled in.

 

Press page down for the third slide

12. Press tab for the Title placeholder

13. Press tab for the object placeholder. NVDA reads all the text as in the text placeholder at 9 above

 

 

Press pagedown for slide 4;

Same as slide 3.

 

Press page down for slide 5

15. Press tab for footer placeholder. NVDA reads all text in the footer;

16. Press tab for slide number placeholder. NVDA reads out the number of the slide;

17. Press tab for title placeholder

18. Press tab for text placeholder.

19. Press tab to return to the footer placeholder.

 

control+home jumps to the first slide

control+end jumps to the last slide.

 

The Slide Show

 

Press F5 to start the slide show

NVDA reads the whole slide from top to bottom including the title and leaves the cursor at the bottom of the slide.

1. Press page down and page up to move from slide to slide. Note that it may be necessary to wait for a few seconds between key presses to allow the slide show to catch up;

2. Press numpad 9 and numpad 7 to read the contents of the slide line by line.

3. Press return or space bar to move to the next slide. Sometimes nothing happens and then do the instruction at 4 below.

4. Type the  number  of a slide followed by return to jump to that slide.

5. Press control-shift-s to switch back and forth between the slide and its accompanying notes.

6. Use F6 to move between the status bar pane, slide view pane, thumbnails pane and notes pane. Use the arrow keys to move through the options available in each of these panes. Use F6 to move to the chosen view to see the results.

7. Use the escape key to exit the slide show.

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From: Cearbhall O'Meadhra [mailto:cearbhall.omeadhra@...]
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 12:08 PM
To: '
nvda@nvda.groups.io'
Subject: RE: NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi again,

 

I am using PowerPoint 2010 with NVDA 2016.2 and Windows 10 on a desktop PC.

 

All advice welcome, thanks!

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 11:48 AM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi,

 

I have taken on a new project in which I have to be able to read several PowerPoint presentations. Are there any guides for using PowerPoint with NVDA? Can anyone give me any pointers from their own experience?

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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Re: FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint

Cearbhall O'Meadhra
 

Mike,

 

That is correct as you can see from the steps which I listed in  my first email of this thread.

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Mike Sedmak
Sent: Sunday, July 10, 2016 12:20 AM
To: nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint

 

F6 will move between the current slide, the status bar, and the thumbnail preview panes when in slide view.  F6 will not do this in presentation mode.

Thanks,

Mike

 

Sent from my iPhone, please forgive the typos. 


On Jul 9, 2016, at 5:09 PM, Cearbhall O'Meadhra <cearbhall.omeadhra@...> wrote:

Sukil,

 

I appreciate your taking the trouble to respond. However, I have tried control and F6, etc.,  as you suggest but they have no function in slide view or slide show modes. Lidewise, “s” and  “d” or “a” have no function. Are these possibly JAWS commands? I see that JAWS uses a rake of navigation keystrokes for PowerPoint. However, I am trying to assemble a tutorial for using NVDA with PowerPoint.

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Sukil Etxenike via Groups.io
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 9:52 PM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: Re: [nvda] FW: Notes on NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi,
You can also press ctrl+F6 or ctrl+shift+F6 to move forth and back between pannels. And S and D (or was it A and S) also work to go to the previous and next slide in the slideshow.

Regards,
Sukil

El 09/07/2016 a las 20:36, Cearbhall O'Meadhra escribió:

Hi,

 

I have been working all day on this topic and have put together the following notes about using PowerPoint with NVDA. Please let me know what you think of these notes. Have you any improvements to suggest?

 

I have used PowerPoint 2010 on Windows 10 using NVDA 2016.2 on my Desktop Pc.

 

Notes on the use of PowerPoint with NVDA

 

1. File opens in slide view

2. Page Down moves from slide to slide showing the title pane

 

For the first slide:

3. Press tab to move to the title placeholder. NVDA reads the title of the slide;

4. Press tab again to move to the subtitle placeholder. NVDA reads the subtitle;

5. Press tab again to move to the embedded graphic. NVDA  says "Graphic" if no alt text;

6. Press tab again to move to rectangle shape.

7. Press tab again to return to the title placeholder at the top of the slide

 

Press page down For the second slide:

8. Press tab to move to the title placeholder

9. Press tab to go to the text placeholder. NVDA reads all the text in the placeholder

10. Press numpad 9 and numbpad 7 to read the text in the placeholder line by line

11. Press tab to move to the graphic image. NVDA reports the location of the graphic in the computer when the alt text has not been filled in.

 

Press page down for the third slide

12. Press tab for the Title placeholder

13. Press tab for the object placeholder. NVDA reads all the text as in the text placeholder at 9 above

 

 

Press pagedown for slide 4;

Same as slide 3.

 

Press page down for slide 5

15. Press tab for footer placeholder. NVDA reads all text in the footer;

16. Press tab for slide number placeholder. NVDA reads out the number of the slide;

17. Press tab for title placeholder

18. Press tab for text placeholder.

19. Press tab to return to the footer placeholder.

 

control+home jumps to the first slide

control+end jumps to the last slide.

 

The Slide Show

 

Press F5 to start the slide show

NVDA reads the whole slide from top to bottom including the title and leaves the cursor at the bottom of the slide.

1. Press page down and page up to move from slide to slide. Note that it may be necessary to wait for a few seconds between key presses to allow the slide show to catch up;

2. Press numpad 9 and numpad 7 to read the contents of the slide line by line.

3. Press return or space bar to move to the next slide. Sometimes nothing happens and then do the instruction at 4 below.

4. Type the  number  of a slide followed by return to jump to that slide.

5. Press control-shift-s to switch back and forth between the slide and its accompanying notes.

6. Use F6 to move between the status bar pane, slide view pane, thumbnails pane and notes pane. Use the arrow keys to move through the options available in each of these panes. Use F6 to move to the chosen view to see the results.

7. Use the escape key to exit the slide show.

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From: Cearbhall O'Meadhra [mailto:cearbhall.omeadhra@...]
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 12:08 PM
To: '
nvda@nvda.groups.io'
Subject: RE: NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi again,

 

I am using PowerPoint 2010 with NVDA 2016.2 and Windows 10 on a desktop PC.

 

All advice welcome, thanks!

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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From: nvda@nvda.groups.io [mailto:nvda@nvda.groups.io] On Behalf Of Cearbhall O'Meadhra
Sent: Saturday, July 9, 2016 11:48 AM
To:
nvda@nvda.groups.io
Subject: [nvda] NVDA and PowerPoint

 

Hi,

 

I have taken on a new project in which I have to be able to read several PowerPoint presentations. Are there any guides for using PowerPoint with NVDA? Can anyone give me any pointers from their own experience?

 

 

All the best,

 

Cearbhall

 

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